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good morning. so glad you are with us on this busy friday. so happy to have you by my side, erica hill. huge developments. donald trump is facing new felony charges, including explosive allegations that he tried to get surveillance video deleted a at mar-a-lago after it was speed. we are going to speak with trump's former fixer michael cohen. >> this comes as the former president, of course, is pushing for a second term, set to speak in iowa tonight. we will be sharing the stage with rivals for the gop nomination, so the question, will they pounce on the new indictment or come to trump's defense? half the united states this morning under dangerous heat again as extreme temperatures spread to the northeast. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts now. ♪
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♪ this morning donald trump is facing new felony charges as this classified documents case against him grows. the special counsel now accusing the former president of trying to get surveillance video from mar-a-lago deleted, trying to get that video deleted right after it was subpoenaed. his long-time valet walt nauta and property manager carlos de oliveira accused of helping in that alleged scheme, all of it happening last summer. a grand jury demanded the video weeks after nauta alleged moved and classified documents to hide them from federal investigators and trump's own attorney. polluters say he changed travel plansen after that subpoena, seek to literally headed to mar-a-lago to deed with this. >> this claims that nauta met
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with de oliveira, they allegedly went down to mar-a-lago security booth where surveillance video is displayed and walked around the property with a flashlight pointing out where the cameras were located. investigators say de oliveira brought the club's i.t. expert into a private room and this was their conversation. according to what is writtenn this superseding indictment, de oliveira told the i.t. expert their conversation should remain between the two of them. he asked how long that server kept footage and the i.t. expert said he thought around 45 days. de oliveira then said, quote, the boss wants the server deleted. when the i.t. expert pushed back, de oliveira reiterated the boss wants it gone and asked, what are we gonna do? cnn political correspondent sara murray. timing here, sara, is everything, right? >> yeah, it is. and as you look through this indictment, you can see what was going on that may have given these employees concerns about having so much of it caught on tape. you know, as you point odd out,
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donald trump is facing two counts related to this alleged scheme to delight the surve surveillance information and now we have kaylee goncalves as a defendant. may 11th the trump team gets the subpoena for any documents with classified markings. 45 days before we get into the meat of this sort of scheme to try to delete this surveillance footage. but throughout may be you can see these boxes getting moved out of the storage room. in the title is says may 22 one box is moved out. on may 24 three boxes are moved out. on may 30, 50 boxes of moved. june 1, 11 boxes are moved. this is happening by trump employees who are talking to trump throughout. on june 2, 30 boxes get moved back into this storage room by walt nauta, a trump employee, as well as carlos de oliveira. that is the same day that a trump attorney is going to come search that storage room for any documents with classified
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markings to satisfy the demands of the subpoena. june 3, the government comes to pick up the responsive documents. they notice that there are these security cameras around there and that on june 24 the grand jury issues a subpoena to the trump team for the surveillance footage from those security cameras. so let's dive into what was going on, on june 24, a little bit. n, this is the day that trump's team gets this subpoena for these securi -- this new secuty fooge. 1:25 trump's attorney talks to donald trump about the spoena. at 35 walt nautaagaithis trump employee, is infd that donald trump wants to see him. less than two hours after that, waltauta, who we know is traveling wiald ump all the time, changes travel plans to go to palm beach instead of traveling with donald trump he is cagey about this situation. when you read the indictment is sending shh'ing emojis to people. it's june 27 we get into some
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the meat about this alleged plot footage.e the surveillance that's wheos doliveira is told the footage lasts about 45 days and he tells another trump employee that the boss wants the footage deleted. when you look over the timeline, guys, you can see why there were a variety of activities going on, moving boxes out of store alk room that nevemake their wa back in ahead of the attorney searching the storage room that people might have been a little concerned of being caught on camera. >> thank you for that. count 32 in the superseding indictment is about that document that goh attention, the iran potential attack plan. prosecutors say they have it? >> that's right. we have talked about this document because, of course, we obtained the tape of donald trump discussing this document with two writers who were working on a book about mark meadows as well as other staffers who did not have security clearance.
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this added count against donald trump for whiillful retention o national defense information is the government saying we are charging the former president. take leyson to how donald trump talks about this document when he is in this meeting in july 2021 in bedminster. >> this was the defense department and him. we looked at some. this was him. this wasn't done by me. this was him. all sorts of stuff. pages. and let's see here. i just -- ant isn't that amazing in this totally wins my case, you know? except it is highly confidential. >> now, it is particularly notable that prosecutors added this charge now because since the tape emerged, since the initial indictment we have seen donald trump out there publicly saying that was all bravado, there was no actual document, i was showing off to people in
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this meeting. prosecutors making very clear in this new version of the indictment that there was, in fact, a document that they believe donald trump was showing people there. >> sara muaythank you. >> joining us now donald trump's former attorney michael cohen, also the author revenge how donald trump weaponized the u.s. department of justice against his critics and the host of the podcast mea culpa and political breakdown indictment watch. as we look at this new superseding indictment, as sara went through that important timeline there, what struck me is that allegedly happened what walt nauta shifting the travel plans abruptly, going down to mar-a-lago to talk to folks down there. in your role when you worked for the former president, is this something you would have been dispatched to do? >> oh, there is no doubt about it. this is so part of the trump playbook that when i heard it on television it didn't surprise me at all. everybody running around. you've got to take care of the boss, do what the boss says.
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you know, you may remember i said on this program a long time ago when the indictment first started coming out that this is not -- this is not unusual for donald trump to want to get rid of documentation to delete stuff. and the real question that we have to ask is, what documents does he have? what documents did he show to people? you know, is this his -- is it his ego? was it in order to be able to show off with letters like from vladimir putin or kim jong-un? and the answer to that is, no. and i say to that, i believe that there is more nefarious reasons that donald is keeping these documents, and i'm shocked and i'm appalled that there is still people that are supporting him. when you must understand that he is placing our national security in complete chaos simply for his own personal benefit. >> and if there is more, it will
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be interesting if those come out, you raised interesting and important concerns, as you point out. i want to get your take on a couple of other things because as you say this is a page from the playbook. one thing that stands out as rather unusual is a 24-minute phone call. can you recall donald trump having a 24-minute phone call with someone? if so, why would he stay on the phone so long? >> yeah, i have had 24-minute phone calls with donald -- >> but when you were his attorney? >> it was sometimes personal, sometimes it was -- it was over issues that needed to be resolved. and it would go sometimes into lengthy discussion in terms it of what he wanted done with pretty, you know, with real specificity, which is why it would take longer. 24 minutes or donald is an eternity. it doesn't happen often. so it's, obviously, about something that is of real significance and importance. >> so significant, but not
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entirely surprising to you it would last that long. loyalty, as many of us have discussed with you and so many people have also discussed is key for donald trump. i want to go through some of what we learned in the superseding indictment which alleges that in the weeks after the fbi found the documents, in the storage room that walt nauta reached out to a trump employee to ask, quot someone just wants to make sure carlos is good, referring to carlos de oliveira, who again is the new defendant nowith the superseding indictment. the employee allegedly told nauta that de oliveira was loyal and wouldn't do anything to affect his relationship with trump. the information was relayed and according to t indictment that very same day trump called de oliveira told him he would get him an attorney. i know you talked about what your loyalty to donald trump cost you. what would you tell carlos de oliveira in this moment? >> i'd -- sadly, i have made this statement to many different people, starting with rudy
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giuliani, walt nauta. run. run fast. first of all, he is not going to get you an attorney. he is not going to pay for an attorney. you may see that with the settlement i was engaged in. he is not going to pay for it unless you stay on message. if you stay on message. you will end up behind bars. there is no doubt about it, you know? donald also doesn't understand that he doesn't understand technology at all. when he thinks that, you know, you can just delete it from the local server, what he is missing is the fact that there is another server, the main server, which was held at the trump organization property that somehow everything was downloaded, too. and the fa ktct that he wanted get rid of this information, in law is called spoiliation, after he had a subpoena, this is damaging stuff. it doesn't seem to be damaging to that 36, 37% of the gop
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loyalists that no matter what he does, they are standing behind him. i wonder if they will stand behind him if, god forbid, there is another attack on america as a direct result of his negligence. >> you know, as we look to see how this plays out and what the reaction is, especially tonight in iowa, you lay out the consequences that you have felt, obviously, from your loyalty, and what others have dealt with. somehow it that donald trump continues to bring people into his orbit and to garner that loyalty? what is he provide -- i mean, maybe the promise of an attorney, which you say he is not going to pay the fees? what is it? what do you think he is promising people? >> look, it's not as devious as you might think. the man is a cult leader. plain and simple. and he has managed, you know, to indoctrinate into this cult many
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millions of people. many millions of americans who are parting with their hard-earned dollars to give to a billionaire so he can fix an old 757 or pay his own legal fees or own responsibilities. why we do it? why i did it? i don't have an -- i don't have a good enough answer to give to you that would satisfy anyone myself, or even my family, that still ask me the same question. there is something -- there is something about ourselves that we are following that i can't explain. it's something that you have probably need a cult expert to explain on what is it that they say and what is it that they do and what we're missing ourselves that causes us to stay in this cult. >> michael cohen, appreciate the insugt. thank you. >> cnn senior analyst, former assistant attorney, elie honig,
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ales a griffin and cba political commentator and former special advisor to president obama van jones. alyssa, because you worked in the trump white house so closely with him but your relationship with trump was different than michael cohen, obviously, who has had litigation with him, to you sort of second what you just heard? >> very much so. i am still shocked, you know, to this day how many people are loyal to donald trump. he has an air about him that kind of commands loyalty, mands people wanting his approval. i was honestly very shocked when i went to work for him in the west wing and saw how many people wanted his approval and there was like lack of kind of wanting to advise him at times because you might get on his bad side. he is good at keeping people in line. he uses incentives. he keeps people on the team and loyalty and this was by design with these individuals. textbook donald trump. he is going to lower level people asking to do his dirty work, people who aren't going to have the constitution to stand
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up to a former maybe future president and he knows what he is doing when he does that. >> and as we watch this play out, what's interesting, too, with all of these new details that we're hearing, is how it is this playbook, right, that michael talked about, that you are saying in terms of what you saw. elie, does that figure in at all in this case into a pattern here? >> well, it's interesting. when we consider the notion of loyalty, because when we are looking at what is walt nauta going to do, what is carlos de oliveira, the new defendant, going to do, the decision whether to cooperate with the government, which i have been on other side of many times, is really complicated and comes down to sometimes a financial decision, a philosophical decision, a moral decision, and i think what donald trump may have recognized now, which michael is a good example of, it's hard to break away from donald trump and sort of come clean and find yourself on the other side because there is a penalty, right. michael cohen was attacked.
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michael cohen lost a lot of money. michael cohen went to jail. donald trump hasn't as of this point. and i think donald trump perhaps made the calculation that it's going be harder for these guys who are maintenance workers and they won't have the means, the motive, and so it's safer if i do my dirty work through them, through people who are perhaps more head strong or better positioned like michael cohen. he may have had adjustment in strategy there. >> you went to a pretty good law school. mr. yale. >> oh? >> what do you think -- what did you think when you read the superseding indictment sort of on the legal side and then on the politics of what this does in the party? >> i want to stay with the human factor. i think, you know, it's tough if you are just a regular everyday person and you get a job with a celebrity, you get a job with a big politician, and all of a sudden your mom's proud of if you, you got school stuff that talk about at thanksgiving dinner, everybody is asking questions and you are a little bit of an authority, then
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suddenly that person gets in trouble. what do you do? the alternative is i'm gonna jump back into the ocean of anonymity where i don't have any special standing and maybe don't have support and maybe i get in trouble, the law comes after me and nobody is going to help me, my cousin can't help me, nobody can help me. sometimes we are tough on people who hang on to the rich and powerful. people read "people" magazine trying to get a little bit of celebrity. >> that's such an interesting point. david, you know, defended trump in the second impeachment trial, basically said that he believes that nauta and de oliveira here, this overbearing to charge them in this way, sort of gets to -- >> look, i think you got to go after the little people to get the big people. one of the concerns people have in the criminal justice system, the little people do the big time and the big people do no time. hopefully, we will be seeing something different in this situation. >> i think doj is going to need
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to -- in making this case dewith the pr of that. i could see how on the outside folks could be like this is a maintenance worker, a guy getting cokes for donald trump to communicate the opportunities that they had to cooperate and to work with the department of justice and do the right thing. but couldn't have said it better than van. there is a lot of pressure and people have seen how donald trump turns on people and can sikh a mob on you, have your life threatened. >> look at michael cohen. >> or alyssa. >> yeah. >> all right. appreciate it. thank you, all. stick around. also tonight we will hear from president trump as more than a dozen republican presidential hopefuls descend on iowa for the annual gop fundraiser there. >> one of those republicans is tim scott who responded yesterday to governor ron desantis' comments about his state's new standards for teaching black history include -- >> there is no silver lining in freedom, in slavery. anything you can learn, any
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to iowa. that's where former president trump is head og tonight for his big campaign appearance. first big one where he'll speak after facing new charges in the classified documents trial. he is one of 13 republican candidates set to speak at the annual gop dinner there, the lincoln dinner. each candidate gets continue minutes to make their pitch to donors with former president trump taking the stage last. jessica dean in des moines, iowa, with more. what do you expect tonight? >> reporter: good morning, poppy. i think we can expect many, many, many minutes of speeches. you just laid out the math there. 13 candidates, ten minutes each.
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but beyond that, i just want to give everyone kind of a snapshot where this race stands in iowa and reminding everyone this is the first votes, where the caucuses will be on jan 15th. so it's going to give us an idea where the race is headed. there was a new fox business poll over the weekend. it shows former president donald trump with 46% out ahead of everybody here in iowa. then ron desantis at 16, tim scott 11, and kind of everyone else. so that really sets the stage for tonight to give you an idea of how much these other candidates aside from donald trump want to break through with these voters. we have been following along with florida governor ron desantis the last day as he set out on a bus tour across rural iowa continuing today before this dinner after he had a reset of the campaign where he laid off a third of his staff citing budget concerns. his campaign officials admitting to missteps in terms of messaging and fundraising and they are trying to get back and focused here in iowa.
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we heard from him this message of electability and really the only time he was talking about his chief rival, trump, is when he was asked about him by a member of the media and he said, look, i won in florida by 20. trump only won there by three. he is making this case that he is someone who can win in 2024 in a general election by winning over independent voters. he talks about what he did in florida. meantime, the other candidates in this race are looking to see kind of how desantis' reset might affect them. you i obtained a memo from the super pac supporting mike pence. they are looking at what's going on with the desantis, perhaps an opportunity for pence to be more aggressive, to maybe scoop up some of those voters that they believe desantis could be losing. again this is fluid right now. we are some six months out, a little less than six months out, poppy and care erica. with former president trump so far ahead. it's going to take a big moment
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for the candidates to break through. anytime they get to the like this, they hope this is that moment. and look, all eyes are going to be on the former president with all of the news that we have heard in the last 24 hours. as you mentioned, the first time we are seeing him in person tonight since all of that and it really just sucks up so much oxygen in that room. poppy and erica. >> 130 minutes. hope they get cut off right at ten minutes each. jessica dean, thank you. >> reporter: they say they will cut the mics. we will see. >> keep your stopwatch running and report back. does to me when we are going om into break. >>heare doing it right now. former president trump understandably railing against these charges on social media crying election interference, prosecutorial misconduct claiming his position in the 2024 election polls made him a target of the justice department. elie honig, alyssa griffin and van jones back with us. as we look at all of this, look,
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we sort of knew what the message was going to be, van, from the former president. they are attacking me. the justice department is corrupt. it does tend to help him though, we must say, last we've seen. how do you -- i mean, what do you expect tonight? can he leave this behind? >> i don't think he wants to. >> what's the message? >> he -- >> why should he. >> he is on the pogo stick and having great time with it. >> pogo stick, blast back to my childhood. >> nobody could master that one. >> trump is mastering this one. this is not hurting him at all with the people he is most concerned about right now. the general election is a long time from now. remember o.j. simpson? this guy was nefarious, did horrible stuff. black community rallied around. why? we thought the people coming after him was terrible, the lapd was terrible. if you are trying to understand what is happening with the trump base and you are african american, remember o.j. it's not your guy.
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you know your guy's wrong. you think the system is more wrong. >> well said. i mean, a factor that you can't ignore is that donald trump's continued standing in the polls is partially a result of the fact that the other gop contenders are not taking him on directly. i should note asa hutchinson and will hurd and chris christie are. but the main players. i advised many political candidates, the idea you don't take your chief opponent being indicted and run with it, this isadioactive, he is going to lose to joe biden, but they are not. i am curious if ther be a change in the tone. mike pence who did really differentiate himself on january 6th, this could be a moment to say i take national security seriously, we need to move a different direction. they need to. there is not some -- it's not like rolling out a policy proposal that's going to break through and they are going to somehow overtake donald trump. >> sometimes awkward to watch the candidates walk that tightrope on the issue of the ongoing indictments. chris christie is unabashedly
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critical. but mike pence, when he is asked, his stock response is, donald trump was wrong. i did not have the authority to throw out the votes. right. that's not the issue. no one disputes that. was donald trump wrong with all of the stuff he did for weeks leading up to january 6th? was he wrong to tweet about mike pence while the riot was going on? there is a delicate dance. i can't do the political calculus. from a legal perspective, they are trying to thread a needle here. >> switching gears here to someone we will hear from tonight, senator time scott, we have heard his first response to reporters, i think politico, what about ron desantis there were some, any benefits to slavery. here is how tim scott responded. >> there is no silver lining for freedom, slavery. any benefits that people suggest he had for slavery, you would have had as a free person. slavery was really about
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separating -- about mutilating humans. devastating. i would hope that every person in our country and certainly running for president would appreciate that and, listen, people have bad days. sometimes they regret what they say and we should ask them again to clarify their positions. >> importance of hearing that from tim scott in this moment? >> yeah, look, i mean, that's tim scott, you know. he is not afraid to talk about the issues i think in terms of most people can understand. probably gives a little bit too much grace to ron desantis. that's who he is. everybody has a bad day. sometimes you wind up praising slavery. that's a little bit more than a bad day. but it's deeply offensive what desantis is saying. take, i don't know, child sexual predation and traffics, which is something that the right-wing is concerned about. what i say, you know, maybe your piano teacher molested you but you learned how to play the piano.
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your football coach molested you, but you learned how to throw a football. that's tone deaf and horrible but that's what desantis is doing. and i think it should be disqualifying. the party of lincoln should not have someone apologizing for slavery anywhere near them. >> tonight is the lincoln dinner and the campaign that tim scott promised to run is a positive one. it's so in contrast to some of the ads we have seen from other pacs, but he is rising in the polls. can you win on a message like that? >> i hope so. and there have been these moments in the republican party where there was a black candidate, herman cain or, you know, others who have gotten the attention and couldn't hold on to the football. there will be a moment that will be tim scott's moment. will he be able to hold on to the football? >> if anyone is going to have a
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moment and potentially overtake tim scott, he has the money, story, backing of other republican senators. i will be watching to see how he does. >> thank you all very much. appreciate it. just ahead here, we have a new statement into cnn. senator mitch mcconnell's office says the minority leader plans to serve out the rest of this congress. the statement does not address his plans after the next congress, set to begin in 2025. mcconnell up for re-election in 2026. your gas getting more expensive. highest level since last november. our chief business correspondent christine romans to tell us when it might go down and why. (tablet beeping) hi. hey. are you readady for your virtual tour? yeah, i'd lolove to see it. (upbeat music continues) struggling with h the highs and lows of bipolar 1? ask about vraylar. because you are greater than your bipolar 1, and you can help take control your symptoms - with vrayl. some medicines only treat the lows or highs.
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expensive. gas prices hit an eight-month high with the national average around 3.73 a gallon as excessive heat is leading to outages at u.s. refineries. our chief business correspondent christine romans, good morning. >> gas prices have been coming down for months. people notice when they fill up at the gas station that it's more expensive 3.73 a gallon is less than a ar ago, we were at 4.28. remember those record high gas prices last summer that were so frightening? but why are they bubbling up? that excessive heat. you can't run a refinery fault tilt when it's 115 with the heat index. just like people can't be outside and working in that. so that's one of the problems. the other problem is you have commodity prices that have been rising because of what's going on in ukraine. the russians pulled out of an important grain export deal.
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so you are starting to see the gas prices rise a little bit. >> those are two factors tough to control in many respects. we hope the heat backs off a little bit. will that be enough? >> this is part of the inflation picture, right. we are going to see for the next eight weeks whether the fed thinks inflation is under control and can stop raising interest rates. but this is an important part of the inflation picture, the gas part of it and it's starting to rise a little bit here. but well below last year's levels. context is key. >> okay. stick around. we have another huge story, this one started 24 years ago. >> no one wants to stand in the way of argentina, if it's the next emerging markets domino to fall. >> who is that brilliant beauty? even more beautiful today. that is christine romans making her cnn debut in 1999. since then, she has been an integral part of this team and network. she is anchor of "early start," covered six presidential
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the "early start" broadcast. >> it's my first day. >> welcome, everyone. cnn's saturday edition on financial news correspondent christine romans. >> live from "new york, new york," this is -- >> welcome to your money, i'm christine romans. >> unprecedented tragedy for new york's financial district and world market and a rare occurrence in financial market history as well. u.s. stock markets will be closed for three straight weekdays. >> christine romans on the phone right now with the bureau of labor statistics to find out more about what's going on inside that data. >> this is what i can tell you when you look inside that data. we will get the full press release in a minute, you know, different tables. >> this is essentially better than expected. >> 300 people slept at the "new york, new york," the chairman slept on a couch. a lot of unshaven, unshowered grumpy people when the opening bell range. >> this oil spill is devastating in so many ways. not for bp's bottom line. >> your job, american jobs are
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disappearing fast. 1.9 million jobs vanished this year. do we expect she will stay at facebook for the long term? i mean, i know some of her compensation is tied to staying there for a few more years. >> it is. but she has plenty of money. >> for some farmers they have never seen this many poor years in a row. >> don't you worry about borrowing all that money? >> i have real money from cnn. >> thank you, cnn. >> for this real money. we are going to learn how to spend it. >> the u.s. state department telling americans not to travel abroad at all because of coronavirus. >> millions are waiting anxiously for help. they have rent and mortgages and bills to pay april 1. they are losing their jobs or they are having their paychecks cut. >> i don't know exactly what they are digesting. they are trying to figure out just how this election race is going to come out. >> if george bush had lost, it would have been like his father who lost and immediately the economy started showing signs of strength. >> what does barack obama want to do about problems in the
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economy right now. >> there is a little less optimism about the status quo and they are going to be looking for signs that fiscal cliff movement is happening. >> zero more days to the election. zero more hours, in fact. zero more rallies. zero nor debates. zero more october surprises. zero moreofrio verse als. >> baseless claims of election fraud as it tries to contest joe biden's victory. >> my grandmother's name is shirley jean peterson. and she remembers her grandma. >> ask who paid your passage? >> wow. that's so -- you heard about the ticket for all those years. but then to see it. >> they feel persecuted for their -- >> that's the biggest bunch of nonsense ever. what keeps jamie dimon up? >> cyber. >> what was the toughest part of the challenge of creating this land, especially when you are under the eyes.
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"star wars" fans? >> never too much detail. >> i want to try them on. >> why don't you. >> can i? do you mind? >> of course. >> music in general really has pushed through any ideas. >> everybody is different. you can definitely be my friend. >> can i come over to dinner? >> i can't believe they found the video of the closing bell. all those haircuts. >> a lot of haircuts. great co-host. >> i know. john and i are different kinds of anchors. >> you're good. >> no. [ laughter ] >> because in the breaks, i like to talk. i like to fill the time and talk and talk to john about his life and john likes to look at baseball scores. so we have this thing, i am jabbering away and he is like looking at baseball scores. we got along final. >> she informed me this morning she wasn't my first co-anchor but she was my favorite. [ laughter ] >> i'll tell you that until it's true. >> that's according to christine
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romans, who also reminded me of a story from one of our first trips on the road when we anchored from the field and she was going out with the crew for drings before the show and she is like, come on -- >> drinks before the show? >> we heard that. >> it will be a good time -- good to hang out, get to know people. she claims i said, you know, i didn't come here to make friends. >> that's what he told me. i was like, oh wow, i got a lot of work to do on this guy. >> okay. so romans right, for, like, we anchored "early start" from four to six for 17 years together. >> right. >> and mostly what i remember isn't the news. it was like a two-hour conversation about our kids, who do the same things, the people we know who are all the same. we are the same age, almost. and just how wonderful it was to be with someone who i enjoyed so much. >> oh, thank you. >> for long. it's the only thing that made it remotely palatable because it's
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so early. and the things that i learned about you, i mean, christine romans is, you know, who -- smart is the new rich, available in book stores, the most successful french major in financial journalism. right? >> she is good. >> she is iowa's favorite child. there is herbert hoover and christine romans. i know the concerts she went to in iowa. i know the pizza store where she would smoke cigarettes in the back in iowa. >> do not say that story. >> i hope your parents are watching. and i feel so lucky that i had that and to know you, and though you claim that i said i didn't come here to make friends, turns out that because of you, i have ended up with a really, really great one. >> oh, thank you. >> and co-anchor, whatever, but you're a great friend. >> thank you. that's a wonderful thing about the gratitude i have for this place is that we are all
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friends. lot of the guys on the camera crew, like i call them my other brothers. they really are. i have known them since i was in my 20s. i was single in my 20s, wire service reporter who walked in the front door and learned tv from all of you guys. i really appreciate it. >> we were talking about the things that we love about you. >> we were sobbing on the phone. >> what we noted most, what berman alluded to, we all feel what a wonderful person you are. you bring people together because of your kindness, empathy and you are so genuine, and i adore you and i will miss seeing you every day. but you cannot shake us. >> so, we are in for the long haul. >> i will be watching you guys. >> the thing that scared me the most, she has been at cnn since before there were cellphones. in your number changes, i can't reach you. i will be so bummed out. >> my first phone was a flip phone from the assignment desk, you know, when they would pass
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out a phone. >> thank you. echoing what erica said and berman, in true berman fashion. thank you for welcoming me as a cover reporter. never opinion on live television. i met you, you were about 11 months pregnant with another 11-pound baby. >> yep. >> skinny as ever, then there is the baby. i meet you at this award dinner for financial journalism. >> that's right. >> and you immediately are so warm. you welcome me to sit next to you. you show me the rope all these years. you are a gift to us and this network. >> oh, thank you. >> thank you for all of it. >> all the fun, all the smiles. >> thanks, everybody. it was fun. most of it. >> we'll be right back. our ski. and even when we metamorphosize into our new evolved form, we carry that spirit with us. because you can takeke alfa romeo out of italy. but you best believe,
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been put up outside the courthouse in fulton county, georgia. the sheriff's office says this is -- that it is proactively coordinating with agencies to enhance security during high-profile proceedings. a grand jury there is of course weighing whether to indict donald trump over his allies over efforts to ovturn his election loss in this a state. keep in mindth would be in addiono the federal charges in the classified documents case, that speed skater and additional charges coming down yesterday and an upcoming charging decisn in the january 6th investigation. a new episode of "the whole story with anderson cooper" airing this sunday night, sara murray takes us inside the events that led to that spaling investigation in fulton county. >> we are more than two years past the pressure campaigns. the harassment of public and private citizens. the coordinating of fake electors. the breach of election equipment. and we still don't know, will trump and his allies face
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charges here in georgia? and if so, will there be convictions? >> they rigged the presidential election in 2020 and we are not going to allow them to rig the presidential election of 2024. >> did voters deserve an answer to this question before donald trump became an announced candidate again? >> i don't think there is any question about that. so from a national perspective, no question about it. from a local perspective here, no question question about it. >> we saw former president trump lie to the american people and ginn up this outrage. >> if they indict him and they can't convict him, it will be an exone exoneration. is that better or is that worse? i don't know. >> and sara murray joins us now. the fact that we saw those barriers this morning being put up, there's been a lot of talk about the timing here. could we see a decision out of fulton county soon?
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>> i think we will see one soon. the district attorney has sort of put her security partners on high alert, she's put her core partners on high alert. the window for when we think she will make announcements would open on monday, july 31st. i would be surprised if we see something from them next week. i think they're still getting organized according to my sources. i do think unless something goes wrong with this case we will see an announcement from fani willis in fulton county probably in early august about whether donald trump or any of his allies or multiple people could face charges in this investigation. >> she has been investigating this and you have been following every single bit of news for two and a half years. there's been a lot of talk about how she's prosecuted other famous people in georgia on rico charges. why has this taken so long to come together, do you think? >> i think the fact that she's looking at a potential racketeering and conspiracy case is part of it and just in digging into this, and you will see this in the documentary,
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there are so many elements of this that prosecutors have dug into. it's not just donald trump calling the georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger and pressuring him to find the votes. you know, it's things rudy giuliani said before state lawmakers to try to convince them that there was this wide-spread fraud in georgia that didn't exist. it's this harassment campaign that was unleashed against, you know, two election workers, ruby freeman and shaye moss, in a civil suit rudy giuliani recently conceded his statements about them were defamatory. it's a breach of an election system in this rural county in georgia. so there is a lot that she has covered over the course of this investigation. >> can't wait to watch. sara maury, thank you very much. again, this is a new episode of "the whole story" with anderson cooper. it airs sunday night. she takes us inside the events that led to this sprawling investigation into fulton county. former president trump charged with new crimes in the classified documents case. and he has a new co-defendant who allegedly said the boss wanted security camera footage
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teacher alvin irby is working to change that by bringing books to barber shops. >> what's up, man. >> we installed a child-friendly reading space in the barber shop. we literally ask little black boys what do you like to read and those are the books that we distribute to our national network of barbers. use the opportunity when they are sitting in the chair to talk to them about books many black boys are raised by single mothers so there's this opportunity to support barbers and becoming black male reading role models. i'm just excited that we get to create a safe space for boys to do something that is really life changing. that's what i really believe reading is. it unlocks potential. >> how inspiring is that? to learn more about alvin's program head to cnnheroes.com. don't forget to nominate someone
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