he is still the gop frontrunner, but are these legal troubles going to leave an opening for the other candidates. and now, the climate is pushing the power grids to the limit. with rahel solomon, i'm john berman. this is cnn "news central." well, hours from now, donald trump is going to take the same campaign stage as his republican rivals as the legal peril takes a serious turn as there are new charges in the classified documents case. special counsel jack smith says that two employees walt nauta and carlos de oliveira tried to conceal evidence at his request. de oliveira says that the boss

wanted the server deleted, and now there are new details that at times and minute-by-minute time line of the events including what allegedly happened right after trump was told that the surveillance video was being subpoenaed. so according to the indictment, nauta who was scheduled to travel with illinois the next day changed his travel schedule and made arrangements to go to palm beach, florida, instead. this is as trump is preparing for another criminal indictment to drop. evan perez, a lot has happened in the last 24 hour, and fill us in. >> absolutely. absolutely over the last 24 hours. we have now learned that the former president and the co-defendants essentially have committed new crimes according to the justice department after the justice department asked for surveillance tapes from mar-a-lago, and here is what the prosecutors allege according to

the new superseding indictment released yesterday, that the former president and two of his employees walt nauta who is already charge and a new co-defendant whose name is carlos de oliveira, that they and the former president discussed a way to delete the surveillance footage, because they knew it showed damning evidence of them moving boxes and perhaps hiding some of the classified documents that the government wanted former president to return. i will read you part of what the indictment lays out. it says that mr. de oliveira asked trump for how many days the server retained footage, and the trump employee said that he believed it was approximately 45 days. de oliveira said that the boss, again, referring to mr. trump, wanted the server deleted. he says that he told the trump employee number four, that the boss wants server deleted, and he asked what are we going to

do, and this is laying out this new allegation against the former president three new obstruction-related charges against him. there is also a new charge related to a 30-s32nd classifie document that the president is accused of obtaining illegally and that is the document that is the subject of a lot of our coverage, and it is a document in discussion for some of the writers who are working on a biography of mark meadows who met in july of 2021 at bedminster, and the former president's club in new jersey, and during that discussion, the former president is accused of holding up a document that referred to attack plans related to iran. now the prosecutors have added that is one of the documents that the former president is alleged to have withheld from

the government illegally. rahel. >> and now, questions of the defense strategy now that the prosecutors do in fact have that document, but the trump defense team is asking to discuss classified information in a location of their choosing, and what exactly are they asking? >> yes, the former president says that for the legal team and for his convenience, they want to be able to discuss some of the classified documents at his homes or in other locations, of course, that are not cleared to have any kind of classified documents or any discussions of the classified documents, and the government is objecting to that. they say that defendant, former president of course, he wants to be permitted to discuss classified documents with his lawyers that are places that are not cleared for classified documents, and the government says that cannot go. >> evan peres, great to have

you, thank you. and now, with us is the former white house lawyer jim schultz, and special watergate prosecutor nick ackerman, and now, nick, let us talk about the watergate word here, because we are talking about destroying the evidence, and mutilating and altering and so, it does sort of ring a bell of some of those who remember watergate and some the evidence that went missing there. >> absolutely. this is really mirroring exactly what richard nixon did through his secretary rosemary woods where she deleted 18 minutes of a critical tape that was turned over to our office. this is one of the oval office tapes, and famously known as the 18-minute gap. richard nixon was successful in doing that, and according to this indictment, trump was not successful. they tried, but they couldn't

find anybody who knew how to delete the server. >> and jim, let me bring you into the conversation, and what is it like on trump's defense team, because they were not expecting this, and so what is the mood like today? >> look, i think that the most significant piece coming out of this is that 30-second document that they discovered and how they got it. we are not sure how the government obtained that document. what is important about that document is that they didn't have it before and it was not part of the prior indictment, and why that is significant is that they have questioned folks saying, is that the document that they were talking about iran and laid out in the first indictment, because before it

could have been pap ers or news clippings or something like that. >> and we have heard trump say it is not a document, and i was shuffling around papers, and how much does that complicate things about his team because he is out publicly talking about it? >> no different than saying that he can declassify these documents by waving a magic wand. it is another chip in the defense that he is positing every time, and it is creating a problem from the public perspective and those who have to go in to defend the case for him. >> and one thing is lying to the american people is not a crime. >> fair. >> but the more you say things that are not true in public particularly after you have been charged with a crime, it can ultimately, i think have impact on the case like that. nick, you are talking about

trying to destroy the evidence, and you suggested that trump failed, but it gets to the mindset and some say a consciousness of guilt, or a consciousness of something going wrong here, and how could that play into the larger case? >> well, the larger case which is really the obstruction of justice. and trump would have never been charged with any crime except that he obstructed the first grand jury subpoena that asked for all of the classified documents, and now he is obstructing another grand jury proceedings that he obstructed the camera view photos. now you have video of two other people nauta and de oliveira,

and it is tying into the guilt and keeping government from these documents and ties into be the government from obtaining critical evidence of the guilt. that could not be more powerful evidence. when you put the whole thing together, you have proof beyond a reasonable doubt, and beyond any doubt that has no defense to it, even though ithe fact is tht trump was there without a subpoena, and all of the emails and the conversations go against donald trump in statements in furtherance of the conspiracy to obstruct. >> nick, i wanted to ask and don't say that the person of

trump employee number four, what do you read as a prosecutor? >> as a prosecutor, i realize that the statements that were made and set out number 84 have to be elicited from employee number 84 before the grand jury, and the evidence never would have gone in there without locking it down rock solid. so they have a evidence of it,

but in terms of the witness that you would most want at trial, it is not clear who would testify saying that donald trump told me x. so how much does that create a challenge for prosecutors here? >> look, that is all fodder for cross-examination for the defense. what beef this person may have had with donald at trial, and it is going to poke holes against him, and you are right that if you have a loyal person who had worked there for a impugn that testimony, and we don't know what we don't know. >> we are learning that

everyday. james schultz and nick ackerman, thank you both for being with us. >> you don't know what you don't know. >> right. >> and now we will have more on president trump this morning, and we will examine the magnitude, and if there is anything that can move the needle with the republican voters. and plus, president trump, and others trying to descend on the debate in iowa tonight to prepare. and the weather bearing down on the country. >> the northeast is a scororche ♪ ♪ (please don't go) ♪ ♪ (please don't g go) ♪ ♪ (don't gooo) ♪

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and how are new yorkers handling this and what are you seeing this morning? >> it is so far so good, but it is heating up, and i will leave myself out here baking, so you can get some of the sweatiness, but it is not scorching yet. we are here in washington orchard park where they will be cleaning it out, and it is going to be packed. it is a stunning day at the moment, but the heat index in new york can hit as high as 110, and that is the mixture of city has set up cooling centers for people to get to. you say, oh, it is hot, and july and nearly august, and that happens. yes, that is true. but when you are stepping back and looking at the big picture, yes, it is a long weird wet spring and looking at the very mild winter that we had, and pile it on year after year, and

looking at the big picture, and how the weather is changing everywhere, it is very clear that something is happening, and the u.n. secretary-general said that we are no longer we are in global warming. >> yes, that quote caught me as well. so now, going to the city of brotherly love, and how are the philadelphiians handling the heat? >> rahel, i am try to avoid getting as sweaty as miguel is, and trying to stay in the car's a/c as everybody in philadelphia is trying to do, because with every minute, rahel, it is getting hotter. we were out here earlier in the morning, and fet nice with the

high 80s in the temperature, but here in philadelphia, it is going to be the feels-like up to 109. that is philadelphia, and not the desert, but it is philadelphia. so that is why we are in the heat health emergency. and the city here has opened up a number of cooling centers, and they are recommending for you to get to the local libraries, and schools as well if you don't have air conditioning in their home. and the lesson is make and it i want to point out that it has been 100 years since philadelphia has hit 100 degrees, and we may not hit that mark today, but just to demonstrate, i filled up the cnn water bottle just with ice, and

it is not cold water, but it is warm and warmer and warmer by every minute, but i will be drinking it, and be hydrated. back to you. >> all right. danny, we will let you get back inside and cool off. john, you said it is a scorcher, because you from massachusetts, and i have philadelphia saying it is hot. >> oh, i have a t-shirt that says that. oh, you made my day. tonight, the republican candidates will be on the stage as the first time, and donald trump is going to be on the same stage as ron desantis for the first time. this is coming as the new indictment charges are filed. >> and where and how the other candidates may be breaking through. with more agility. ♪

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welcome back. 13 republican presidential candidates are heading to the early primary state of iowa to speak at a gop fund-raiser and that does include donald trump and ron desantis. it is the first event with the documents probe into donald trump, and ron desantis is heading up a revamped campaign as he is trying to make up ground in the trump's lead, and

jessica dean is on the campaign trail this morning in iowa, and what can we expect? >> well, rahel, we are seeing the example that we are seeing play out as the republican primary is coming in front of us as the legal issues are slamming rite into the 2024 race which is happening tonight. we have so many candidates appearing on the stage to pitch themselves in the first state that is so critical, iowa, and we have recent fox polling that shows trump at 46%, and everybody else so far behind him, and ron desantis is coming in at 16% which is in second place. and that is the hold that the former president has on the primary, and the challenge for all of the contenders who are hoping to breakthrough with the voters like this hoping it is the moment, and then trump blows

in, and he,s all of tempt aside from chris christie and asa hutchinson going after the president, and talking around it in a way, and we saw governor ron desantis on the campaign trail yesterday, and he is on the campaign trail again today in iowa on a tour, and bus tour of rural iowa, and the most direct that he would come at former president trump is when he was asked about it by reporterssh and he does not do it on the stump, because he is trying to thread the needle. these are the people they talked to, and voters who supported the first president in the last two elections there. and so he is trying to make an argument of independent voters in florida like he had done previously. but it is going to be quite a scene here as they all descend're in iowa at a critical state at a critical moment about

six months out of the critical caucuses there in iowa. >> quite a scene there in iowa. >> quite a scene to happen on this date with everything going on, and the first time that trump is at the same event with everyone else in particular ron desantis. now, joining us is doug heye who if ti am not mistaken ran coms for the caucus, so tell us about the convergence there, and the big candidate event, and all of them there, and the new charges, and pending indictments, and talk about the short, medium and long term effect of it. >> well, there is immediate impact of the indictments in that we know what donald trump is going to say, and raise a lot of money from it. the short term is what we have typically seen from the republican candidates. they criticize the department of justice and that teams to be it.

i am reminded of the line by the talking heads "same as it ever was and same as it ever was." but for this to change, the caucus process with iowa, you have to d something different, and you have to change if you want it to change, and maybe not this weekend, but if, based on everything else, when the potus was indicted once or twice or three times, you pounce on it immediately and don't let go. >> doug, in terms of somebody doing something different or having to change, and senator tim scott, i wanted to play a clip for you making the rounds this morning, and then we can discuss it on the other side. >> there is no silver lining in slavery. the truth is that anything that you can learn, and any benefits

that he had for slavery, you would have had to be free first. i would hope that every person in the country, and certainly running for president would appreciate that. and listen, people have bad days and regret what they say, and we should ask them again to clarify the positions. >> that is obviously what he is referring to is the new black history curriculum, and the curriculum suggests that there were benefits to slavery, and that is a dig at ron desantis. tim scott has a reputation even within the democratic party of being very likable. you will see it in some of the polls that republican voter feel like he is likable. they like his personality. is there an appetite for a nice guy candidate. might that be the change? >> well, i sure hope so, because as a white house staffer, nikki

haley had appointed tim scott to the senate, and we didn't want to lose him, because everybody likes tim scott, but we like him so much that sometimes with e forget that he is smart and shrewd. looking at the comment, he said, hey, press, keep asking ron desantis about this, and let bit the message as he is trying to roll out the desantis campaign 2.0, and really smart and shrewd. >> what about that? desantis has three problems. he has a donald trump problem, and a ron desantis problem, but now he has to deal with tim scott as well. and what about the fact that it is vailed criticism, but criticism nonetheless. >> yeah, it is what we are seeing so often is a fighting among the scrum. if this were the tour de france, the members of the peloton would be fighting about who is coming in second, and not worrying about the leader, but it is not what i would advice. because it is not going around

him, but him, and when you have the opportunity to throw out the anchor to someone who is anchoring, that has not happened, and that is why nobody has been attacking donald trump. and these candidates as we will see this weekend, it is going to tell us more of what to expect in the future debate coming up, and whether they will be jocking for second or third or put some of the fire toward donald trump trump, do you believe he is going to debate? >> i would say that he has nothing to win by joining, and so i would advise him to stay out, but it is going to be great to see him eye to eye with the other candidates. >> thank you, doug heye. on the attack, and ukrainian forces say they are make key

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this morning, there was to be a proposed peace plan by african leaders trying to shore up support from leaders and also a concern about some food shortage in the country after

russia pulled out of a grain deal. and so what more do we know about these talks? >> well, look, putin is looking for friends and looking to africa for the friends and looking to extend russia's interests in africa, and looking to sell the anti-western message, and russia is right, and the hypocrisy from the west to blame for the shortage from the food, and saying that it is the west who hiked the price of food and fuel, and blame anyone but us. that is the message. you are right, the last time he held the conference was 2019 before covid, and he had double the number of leards there, and he has 17 there this time, and maybe 49 different nations to show up, but not the leaders which is telling, but some like ra

rampafaposa, but it is not reflective of the message, because this is the african peace proposal is calling for the de-escalation of fighting from both sides, and it is not sure that the kremlin is ready for that, and the ukraine narrative and the allies' narrative is that russia invaded illegally and just need to remove themselves from the country. this is not a peace proposal that is going to get support from either village of the mosque along the southern front line in the zaporizhzhia village, and in that village, they have made a gain in the neighboring village and get them on some hard tarmac road that could potentially if they could

continue the push that seems to be opening up if they can continue that, and then perhaps they can have some counter offensive that they have not had so far. >> we will have to watch. thank you, nick robertson live for us in london. i am joined by retired army major mike lyons here, and pushing in, this is where nic robertson is talking about, and this is a town that had been 4e8d held by the russians since the beginning of the invasion, and what are you seeing? >> yes, and not only there, but kyiv and robitinian, and it is a good sign, and also starting to deploy some of the reserves, and

it looks like the race is on the sea of azov, and if they can goat to mare -- maritopol and in this area here. >> and you can see that over here where they just took it back here, and show us here, what they are doing, and how they are doing it? >> john, it is a classic military maneuver to get over here there robityne, and this is

the sea here of azov to get through here, and two lines of russian defenses, and it is going to be a difficult task, but getting to use some of the things from the russian trained brigades. >> you think that some of the drones -- >> it is making a big difference here, because they can attack into the deep line of the third defense, and attacking tanks, and anything they have here, and any time you go on the counter offensive, you have to worry about -- >> the south again here on the picture? >> yes, the artillery is still only this area here. >> this is in ukrainian hands, and they want to come here and here, and what will the drone strikes open up? >> well, in this area here, take out the artillery and the tanks and the indirect fire weapons susceptible as they maneuver

down into the valley region, that is where the drones will work, and the counter offensive has been the electronic maneuvers and that is the kinds of things they are do. >> what do the ukrainians need most, because the tanks don't arrive until september. >> the abrams tanks will provide some shock, and not the same way as the other tanks, but this is the deal to get down there. >> and we are again hearing for the first time some successes of the counteroffenses, but how do you know with your expertise that some success has been achieved? >> they have to get through the second line of defense. if they are 50 kilometers to the sea of azov, they can get to the

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welcome back and new this morning, security barricades are up outside of the fulton county courthouse in atlanta. they it is a is part of the

coordination with the local, state and federal security. they are considering the potential indictment for president trump's participation in trying to overturn the election in 2020. sara murray is going to take us inside of the events that led to the possibility indictments in fulton county. >> once everyone is gone, and the coast is clear. >> the story that she told was chilling in terms of look at what they are doing. the video doesn't lie. >> when you are looking at what you saw on the video which is to me a smoking gun. >> the problem is that the video had been selectively edited. >> what are you thinking when you saw that at state farm

arena. >> that is a sealed ballot carrier, but they intentionally misled the state senate in order to continue to mislead the officials to keep this going. >> they lied? >> yes. >> and so it is said that rudy giuliani is a target in this investigation, and is that because of the presentation to state lawmakers. >> yes, he was told he was a target quite a while ago, and one of the things that the prosecutors are looking at is what he peddled in front of the state lawmakers, and putting forth fake electors in the state of georgia, and we know that rudy giuliani put forward those electors where this was playing out, and a number of things that they are looking at when it comes to giuliani, and again,

just one of former donald trump's aides and allies caught up in this investigation in fulton county, georgia. >> we started with the barricades outside of the fulton county courthouse, and we are told that the imminent indictment is coming, and what is "imminent"? >> well, we have been told that for 2 1/2 and year, and imminent looks like august. f fani willis has said that she wants to see enhanced security measures, and this time period of july 1st to september 1 is when she is going to be making the announcement who if anyone is going to be facing charges, so we will be on the high alert in early august looking for the announcements to come, rahel. >> and potentially on high alert, trump's legal defense team, and they have tried to potentially derail the election,

and looking at the d.a. fani willis, and what about those efforts? >> they are not happy with the way that this is playing out, and they have tried to get fani willis disqualified, and they have interviewed more than 75 witnesses, and tried to collect evidence, and trying to get the evidence of the grand jury thrown out. we are still waiting on a judge to weigh in on this argument that we have heard from the trump team, but we have heard from a number of legal experts, and they are saying that to have a judge this early without an indictment to say, throw out all of the months and months of work that the grand jury did. there is an outside chance, because things go wrong with cases and court, and we are keeping an eye on it. >> with so many indictments, and potentially with the grand jury in d.c., and what are the juror

s going to see with this investigation? >> what strikes me going through and working on the documentary and piecing together what we worked on the years is how many legs of this operation there were. we have heard from the phone call from donald trump and where he called brad raf ffensperger d where people started to show nup this rural county in georgia and where the trump allies go to breach the voting system there, and there is a number of things that went on in this investigation and ni willis is going to have to decide who to file charges against. >> and make sure that you watch

the "the whole story, what happened in georgia" airing this sunday at 8:00 p.m. >> i loved that "georgia rabbit" icon there. and still ahead, all of the fallout from the new allegations from last nighght. stearns & foster mattresses.

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