to a longtime colleague christine romans. she's leaving cnn after more than 24 years at the network, including truly amazing work as our chief business correspondent, also as an anchor of "early start." i often woke up early to be sure to catch her excellent reporting. christine, we will miss you and we wish you only the very best as you move on to your next chapter. and to our viewers, thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." "erin burnett outfront" starts "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com "outfront" next, trump employee four revealed. we now know the identity of that key witness named in the new charges against the former president. this as trump is caught in a lie about a classified document he

said doesn't exist. plus, dramatic new video from the front lines where ukraine says it is making gains tonight as we are seeing just how far putin will go to keep his friends in his corner. and cnn is taking you underwater to see firsthand the full-blown emergency along florida's coast as the only living coral reef in the continental u.s. is now dying because of blistering ocean temperatures. let's go "outfront." and good evening. i'm jim sciutto in for erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, trump caught lying as the former president faces major new charges in the mar-a-lago classified documents case. cnn is learning tonight that one particular document about iran war plans, the document that trump openly discussed on tape, was, ultimately, returned to the national archives by the former president's team. that is significant because it's a document that trump has denied

is even real or that he ever showed them off to anyone on tape. i want to play cnn's exclusive audio of trump talking about that iran war plan in a 2021 recording at his new jersey golf club. >> let's see here. isn't that amazing? this totally wins my case, you know. except it is highly confidential, secret -- [ laughter ] i was just saying because we were talking about it. and he said he wanted to attack iran and what. this was done by the military given to me. i think we can probably -- >> i don't know. we'll have to see. we'll have to try to -- >> declassify it. see, as president i could have declassified it. now i can't. >> now i can't he said. in an interview last month with fox news, this is how trump

describes the document. >> there was no doubt. that was a massive amount of papers talking about iran and other things. and it may have been held up or may not. but that was not a document. i didn't have a document, per se. these were newspaper stories, magazine stories, and articles. >> this comes as cnn has now identified employee number four in yesterday's superseding indictment, as it's known. he is an i.t. expert who oversaw the surveillance camera footage at mar-a-lago. the mar-a-lago property manager carlos de oliveira, who is also now facing charges, took him to a small room known as an audio closet. according investigators de oliveira ask trump employee four how many days the server retained footage. trump employee four responded he beeved it was approximately 45

days. de oliveira told trump empyee four that, quote, the boss wanted the server deleted. trump employee four responded that he would not know how to do that. and he did not believe that he would have the right to do that. these new details come as law enforcement braces for another criminal indictment, this time in the doj's january 6th investigation. cnn is learning officials believe the charges could come any time next week, and that the secret service, d.c. metropolitan police department, and u.s. capitol police are now working with u.s. marshals to prepare. security preparations also underway in georgia. orange barricades are now outside the fulton county courthouse. european union, you've been covering this since the beginning. what more can you tell us about

this crucial iran document, war plans and how the revelation it was returned to the national archives fit now in the special counsel's case? >> well, jim, it is the only document among the 32 that now the former president is now charged with willfully retaining. it is the only one that was returned in that initial box of 15 boxes that was sent back to the national archives back in january of last year. and the question that we all are asking is why it was not included in the initial indictment. now, prosecutors don't really explain why it is only now being included, but we do know that, in the meantime, since the initial indictment was released, the former president has made the rounds, and he made those comments that you just cited there from his media interviews where he says that there was no such document, that it didn't exist. he and his attorneys have also

told us repeatedly that they don't believe that there was ever a document, that he was just, you know, waving around papers, personal papers, perhaps, to those biographers. now we know that everyone in that room has been interviewed by the special special, appeared before the grand jury. someone in there probably already has told prosecutors what they saw when he was waving those papers. so it might be that that is now the reason we see that document being included as being willfully retained up to january of last year. >> understood. could be crucial going forward. evan perez, thanks so much. "outfront" now, ryan goodman, he's co-editor in chief of just security, former special counsel at the defense department. karen friedman, former prosecutor and criminal defense attorney. and a retired fbi special agent for more than 20 years.

thanks so much to all of you for taking the time tonight. ryan, i do want to begin with you. so, given evan's reporting there, why do you believe the special counsel added the charge around this particular document about iran war plans if he'd returned it in january 2022? does that give you an indication that he has -- the special counsel has testimony that in fact the president was waving a classified document? >> it certainly seems that the special counsel will have testimony and proof that they think they can show beyond a reasonable doubt that that document was being waved around. and the setup for the conversation which trump does supposedly wave this document does seem like it was preplanned. it's not like it just spontaneously came to him. he was trying to rebut something in the media about the idea that the chairman of the joint chiefs

had to try to dissuade him from attacking iran so he came prepared with the documents. they've also interviewed anybody who might be preparing the documents bringing them to the room and therefore knowing with a greater level of visibility what that document was. >> understood. karen, the audiotape, trump denies he held up anything. as you look at what we know, and, again, we're all working with the disadvantage of not being members of that grand jury and certainly not members of the special counsel's team. the significance of the addition of this charge and what would be required for the special counsel to add such a charge in a superseding indictment? >> you have to ask yourself why was this not charged in the first place. clearly they had this document. we know that jack smith recovered over a hundred classified documents when they executed the search warrant at

mar-a-lago. and they chose 31 of those documents to put in the indictment. and the question is why is it that they now include it? and i think it could be a couple of reasons. one, for example, one of the elements of the crime is he has to willfully retain all the documents. and so one question will be he returned it to the archives so did he willfully retain it. or maybe it's so secret and sensitive that the intelligence community didn't want jack smith to include this because it can't be revealed. we don't know why. but trump, when he went on fox news and denied the existence of this document and claimed that it was just magazine papers or clippings, the document didn't exist, he almost gave jack smith no choice but to go to the intelligence community and get permission to put this in the indictment and show that trump is just lying.

>> i too know from my own reporting that there are a few things more classified or sensitive than war plans, particularly one involving such a serious adversary as iran in this case. carl, cnn is learning that yuscil taveras is the name of the i.t. worker at mar-a-lago who oversaw the surveillance footage on the property. special counsel says he was asked by another trump employee to erase footage from a server. he has this language that the boss wants it to happen. does an attempt or a discussion of destroying evidence. is that evidence enough of a crime? or do you actually have to manage to do it? >> certainly this looks like it's part of a conspiracy. this new indictment goes to a greater level of detail showing the lengths that trump and his employees were going to. in particular, if you look at the time frames that are shown

there, it shows that on june 2nd, attorney number one was going to review the boxes of documents. and we have evidence now that the tape shows that 64 boxes were actually moved prior to then. only 30 boxes were returned on june 2nd for that attorney to review. the next day, the fbi came to review the documents that were collected by attorney number one. and when they were doing this collection and they looked around and they saw this video camera. they saw this security system. so, based on that, that's when the grand jury issued the subpoena for the footage. and, clearly, there was stuff that trump and his employees didn't want seen. >> ryan, for the sake of our viewers, because i'm sure they're having trouble keeping track of all the ongoing investigations, and the incremental progress within each of those investigations. but when you look at yesterday's superseding indictment, how much more serious does it make, in your view, the case against

trump in the classified documents investigation? >> i think it rachets up the seriousness of the case quite a lot. because we shouldn't just think of it narrowly like an additional charge was made against president trump that he was involved in trying to destroy these tapes. what it says about the entire case to try to destroy the evidence is a consciousness of guilt. it means you're trying to destroy something that you know that you did something wrong, and what he did wrong is a violation of the espionage act by retaining national defense information. i think that's what's so important about this new part of the indictment. >> karen, how about the piece here. it sounds almost like mob discussion, right? are you loyal when you look at some of these text messages, is this guy loyal, is he going to do it, the boss wants this to happen. when you look at that pattern there, does that factor into the investigation here and the evidence behind these charges?

>> yeah. i mean, this is a pattern that donald trump does in his whole life. he covets loyalty. he keeps people close. and then he bullies you and tortures you verbally if there's any indication that you aren't on his side and loyal. so i think there's just a lot of -- i think people are afraid of him. i think people around him are afraid of him because look what happens to anyone who, you know, who is in his crosshairs. they immediately get some kind of horrific nickname, and then he accuses them of being a crack head, a liar, whatever it is. it's the same pattern. doesn't matter who you are. you could be ruby freeman and shaye moss or you could be jack smith. he does the same thing to everybody. >> deranged is the adjective he uses for jack smith now. law enforcement in washington is preparing for any potential dangers, risks from a potential

trump indictment here. you've got security barricades around the fulton county courthouse in georgia where the d.a. there may soon indict trump for his efforts to overturn georgia's election. just today, speaking of the kind of language the former president uses, he called for the special counsel, trump did, and attorney general to be thrown into jail. does this tense atmosphere concern you? this is something trump has done before. of course it's at the center of discussions about january 6th and whether the president's comments at the time helped lead to that violence on that day. >> absolutely. look, what we found out from january 6th is that words matter. the fbi's arrested over a thousand people that participated in that insurrection. many of those that have been charged have plead guilty. and they've said stuff, like, you know what, i did this because the president told me. so, words matter. and so my concern is it just

takes one person. there are a lot of people in this country that think this is a witch hunt, they've bought into the trump defense that he's being persecuted, this is unfair. and, so, based on what we saw on january 6th, it's not out of the realm of possibility that you'd have someone do something. one of the things we know is that not only are they willing to take action, but many of them are armed. >> and disinformation can work to this day, and republicans still believe the election was stolen. thanks so much to all of you for joining us this evening. appreciate your expertise. we are getting brand-new details about carlos de oliveira, the mar-a-lago employee who was accused of trying to delete that security footage at mar-a-lago. his good friend of 30 years just spoke to cnn. you want to hear what he has to say. plus, as the fighting intensifies in ukraine, see how north korea is going all out to make sure putin knows the hermit kingdom has his back. just in, the wife of the suspected gilgo beach serial

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russian defenses, making their way across ground littered with land mines. despite this, ukraine says it is making real progress now in the area. that intense fighting coming as russia continues to launch missiles deep into the city of dnipro, see the smoke billowing from a residential high-rise. residential, keep in mind. and an ability that houses ukraine security services as well in, flames. as the fighting intensifies, vladimir putin is trying to shore up alliances wherever he can, cozying up now with the north koreans as well as african leaders. nic robertson is "outfront." >> reporter: vladimir putin is looking for friends. fewer than he hoped showed up for his grandiose st. petersburg/africa conference. simultaneously sending sergei shoigu, his defense minister thousands of miles to north korea. cozying up to nuclear-armed kim

jong un. pictures of putin plastered on the walls, quite the reception for the russians. and this, kim showing off his latest intercontinental ballistic missile. the hwasong-18. putin telling kim in a letter, north korea's firm support against ukraine, in its solidarity with russia, highlights our common interest to counter the policy of the west. so much, putin propaganda in pyongyang shows kim desperate for foreign friends, too. their common ground, anger at america. in st. petersburg where only 17 heads of state showed up, less than half of those who came for the 2019 pre-ukraine invasion africa conference, putin's pitch, the u.s. and europe are

bad, russia's your friend. >> south africa and indeed as africa, we are greatly encouraged by the russian federation's commitment to deepening collaboration with the nations of africa. >> reporter: south africa's president ramaphosa, whose ailing political party denies indirect cash support. and all this happens, a military coup in niger. russia apparently ready to move in and replace the west counterterrorism forces. wagner mercenary boss prigozhin, putin's one-time africa enforcer, telling nigerians, throw the west out. in africa, in north korea, putin trying to carve out a new axis, a world order aligned behind him

against the west. it's a cold reality there, jim, for putin is that when he makes the west look bad, but the trouble for the west is fighting everything from the war in ukraine to the cost of food and fuel in african countries is nearly a full-time prospect that's made so much harder because putin actually has leverage over some of those countries. jim? >> "outfront" now, a russian journalist who knows the kremlin and putin's inner circle really better than most. he's also the author of "war and punishment," a new book about russia's invasion of ukraine. i wonder mikhail, we do know there's been some report in the past about them buying weapons for its war in ukraine. what does it say about russia's current position in the world that it's reaching out to really

the world's biggest pariah state, one might say. >> you know, that has been strategy for several years. he's trying to become the leader of the global anti-americanism. so, yes, he understands that he has no way to find his own popularity in the global south in africa. so he's trying to play that card as the leader of anti-american world. and sometimes it seems that he's rather successful in that. so, at least all those speeches that could be heard during the africa/russia summit in st. petersburg, they were mostly against america or against the western values. and putin was trying to prove that he is the real fighter against the west and the united

states. >> north korea is very close to china as well. yevgeny prigozhin, the leader, of course, of the wagner group, resurfaced in of all places st. petersburg, same city, same event as vladimir putin just a month after he attempted a coup against putin. tell us what you've learned about where prigozhin has been and what his position is in russia today. >> according to my sources, he has been noticed several times in st. petersburg, that happens to be his hometown. so probably he didn't spend all of that month in belarus. he spent most of time in st. petersburg. he was trying to be visible, and he even met vladimir putin about a month ago in the kremlin. so, obviously, according to my sources, putin does not consider himself as a traitor because prigozhin was not trying to topple vladimir putin, he was trying to become number two. he was trying to organize an uprising against minister of

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you are looking there at live pictures out of iowa. that's, of course, nikki haley will trump to be speaking at his first major public event. nikki haley speaking at the dinner right now. trump's 2024 rivals are, to this point, widely side-stepping this issue. here is ron desantis today. >> looking forward, would you handle classified documents the same way that the former president did? >> so, first of all, as president, i pledged on day one we will end the weaponization of justice in all the agencies in

the federal government. but here's the thing. when they're shooting at you, the way you handle it is to not shoot yourself in the foot and to make sure you keep the eye on the ball. >> those comments come as trump vows today to continue his campaign even if he is convicted and sentenced to prison. jessica dean is "outfront" live from one of trump's campaign offices in iowa where he is expected to visit staff any moment now. jessica, i wonder what you're expecting to hear in the president's speech tonight. >> reporter: well, jim, we're expecting to hear more of what he's been telegraphing in the last 24 hours. this is the first time we're going to see him out in public. so that will be different. he will be, of course, in front of a crowd. i was just in that ballroom about an hour and a half ago. it's giant. it's going to have a very, very large crowd there. and we know that he likes being in front of a crowd. so we can expect him to really rev up for that large audience. now, behind me right now you see this group here. this is one of his campaign offices in iowa where we are

expecting to see him really at any moment now. we are told he's going to address supporters inside there. unclear exactly what he's going to say to them. but, if history is any indication, jim, we know that he talks about being -- that the justice system has been weaponized against him unfairly, prosecutorial misconduct, again, without any evidence of that actually being the case. but that is typically what we're hearing from him. i want you to listen to what he said a little bit earlier today about what he would do if he was convicted. >> you get convicted and sentenced. does that stop your campaign for president if you're sentenced? >> not at all. there's nothing in the constitution to say that it could, and not at all. and even the radical left crazies are saying, no, that wouldn't stop, and it wouldn't stop me either. >> all right. and i am hearing sirens behind me, jim.

so we could expect his arrival here at any moment. in the meantime, i want to zoom out just for a quick second and give everyone a snapshot of what's happening on the ground when it comes to this gop presidential primary. new polling from fox business showing that trump is at 46%. the person in second place, that's governor ron desantis at 16%. so you can see what a hold he still has on the primary here in iowa. and so many of these candidates, desantis and the others trying to find a plane to break out with these voters to make that moment where they can connect with the voters and convince them that they are the one that can be elected in 2024. that's what we've heard from desantis over and over again as this electability argument. the get, jim, is, is the trump fatigue enough for one of those other candidates to start rising in the polls, jim? >> we'll be watching, jessica dean in iowa, thanks so much. "outfront" now, former republican governor and 2024 presidential candidate asa

hutchinson. thanks so much for taking the time tonight. >> great to be with you. thank you. >> governor, as you know, this new indictment accuses trump of obstructing the doj's investigation by trying to or discussing, deleting security footage at mar-a-lago. it says the property manager told an i.t. worker, quote, the boss wanted the server deleted. you, of course, were a former federal prosecutor. in your experience, does someone discuss deleting evidence if they're not concerned there was evidence of a crime? >> no, of course not. and that's why the whole issue goes to intent. not only is it a separate crime, but directing someone to delete something of evidentiary value that you know the grand jury wants is a crime, but it also goes to the intent and knowledge that he's had criminal conduct. and, so, this is a serious upon

serious. the first indictment, obviously, was as serious as it gets. and then here you have a superseding indictment that adds another level of seriousness. and this should be really it takes a lot to get donald trump's attention on criminal cases. but if this doesn't get his attention, nothing will. so, it's going to take more time, and the accusations are extraordinarily problematic for his defense team. >> you and the former president and other republican candidates are going to be making your case to iowa voters tonight to be the next gop nominee for the president. you said before that the former president should end his race in 2024. do you believe that even more today than you did yesterday? >> yes. what's happened has reaffirmed what i called for early on. and that is that he steps aside. he needs to step aside for his own benefit so he can address

these very serious criminal cases that are filed against him, but also for the good of the country. >> top republicans are defending the former president. house speaker kevin mccarthy today compared trump's case to that of president biden who, like former president mike pence, actually voluntarily handed over classified documents that they had retained. listen, if you can, for a moment to representative mccarthy. then i want to get your reaction. >> what concerns me is you have a sitting president that has a situation like this that had documents but nothing's happening. >> obstruction versus the actual -- that's two different issues. >> it's not two different issues. how does one keep being indicted and another not? >> again, your former prosecutor yourself, you're running for president. do you equate trump's classified documents case and behavior to that of pence and biden?

>> no. each case is fact-specific, and you have one in both of mike pence and also the president cooperating, giving documents back. we don't know all the facts, and those will be resolved. but every case is different, and in trump's case, he brought all of this on himself. whenever you're looking at showcasing national security secrets to others, whenever you look at telling people under the allegations that you're supposed to destroy evidence, you're supposed to delete videotapes surveillance, this is terrible in terms of what is facing donald trump, and it certainly is separate from what the others see. and, so, the whole idea of we have unequal justice being applied here is not a defense in a court of law. and it's all about public relations, and that only goes so far. >> you're in iowa tonight, along

with other republican candidates. you're going to make your own case to be the gop nominee. and you're quite a successful politician in your own right. you served in congress. you've spoken to a lot of voters in your time. are they telling you in private, things that don't come through in the polls about their openness to a new direction for the republican party, a new nominee for president? >> they are. you see the poll numbers. and i believe that they're artificially high for donald trump. and with all of the external pressures on him, there's realization that we can't win in 2024 with him leading the ticket. and not with just the presidency involved but it is the congressional races and the senate races. so, a tremendous amount is at stake, as well as the future of the party. and so there is a realization growing among the base, among leaders of the party that we have to go a different direction. and i think it starts here in

iowa. iowa has been attuned to this for some time. i expect iowa to go a different direction. i'll make my case, and i want to be on the debate stage. so asa2024.com is important for me to get on that debate stage, to have those contributions to qualify for that debate. >> before we go, i do want to ask you about new comments by supreme court justice samuel alito today. this as democrats have been pushing for stronger ethics rules for justices amid controversies that have involved alito and other justices. alito told the "wall street journal," i know this is a controversial view, but i'm willing to say it, no provision in the constitution gives them -- he's referring to the congress here -- the authority to regulate the supreme court, period. you're a governor, you're a candidate for president. you've served in congress, and you're a lawyer yourself. do you agree? >> well, there is a separation of powers. and i tend to agree with justice alito. i do think that the supreme

court itself should provide more transparency and more clarity on their ethical rules. no one is above the appearance of impropriety, and they need to make sure that the rules are clear in terms of gifts. so, there is that constitutional separation of powers. i do question whether the congress can enact those ethical rules. but i do hope the supreme court takes the initiative on their own. >> governor asa hutchinson, thanks so much for joining us this evening. and best of luck this evening to you. >> all right. thank you. good to be with you. "outfront" next, new details just coming in about mar-a-lago property manager carlos de oliveira who is now facing charges. how did a low-level employee get tangled up in trump's legal problems? and in a story you're going to see first here on "outfront," we take you underwater to see how florida's coral reefs are coping with unprecedented hot

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tonight, live pictures out of iowa. former president donald trump expected to speak any moment now. this comes as two employees who worked with trump at mar-a-lago now face criminal charges in connection with trump's classified documents mishandling case. family members of one of those

employees, carlos de oliveira, tell cnn they feel like he got trapped. one of trump's former executives told "outfront" that legal trouble for anyone working with trump is nothing new, and that trump, quote, compromises almost everyone he works with at some point or another. tom foreman is "outfront." >> reporter: another week, another person close to donald trump in trouble. the property manager at mar-a-lago carlos de oliveira, like trump aide walt nauta, has now been swept into the case over those classified documents, which the justice department says trump illegally took and held. trump denies it. >> this is harassment, this is election interference. >> reporter: but the charges against team trump had been mounting for years. start with steve bannon. >> i stand with trump and the constitution. >> reporter: the firebrand

adviser has pleaded not guilty to new york state charges of conspiracy to money laundering and fraud. but he's been slapped with four months in prison for another matter, ignoring a congressional subpoena about the january 6th attack. his jail time is on hold while he appeals. allen weisselberg, trump's longtime chief financial officer, served roughly four months for tax fraud, and was ordered to pay $2 million in back taxes, interest and penalties. paul manafort, once trump's campaign manager, he served two years in prison for bank and tax fraud, illegal foreign lobbying, and more before trump pardoned him. also pardoned, former national security adviser michael flynn. >> the next president of the united states, right here. >> reporter: he admitted lying to the fbi about his contact with russia before walking the admission back and suing the government for alleged malicious prosecution. >> he compromises almost everyone that works with him at some point or another.

>> reporter: none of it surprises jack o'donnell who worked for the trump organization. >> the man is the least compassionate empathetic person i've ever met in my life. he doesn't care about anyone. >> reporter: and the list goes on. george papadopoulos, roger stone, all had ties to trump all wound up in legal jeopardy. and, of course, former trump attorney michael cohen was confined three years after admitting several crimes including campaign finance violations. he says it's simple why so many follow trump into trouble. >> look, it's not as devious as you might think. the man is a cult leader, plain and simple. >> reporter: neither nauta nor de oliveira responded to cnn's request for any further comment. but, jim, to go back to what you said at the beginning, a lot of people were close say suddenly

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tonight, hot water, really hot water. record heat in florida turning the ocean into one giant hot tub. water temperatures reaching a jaw dropping 101 degrees this week. coral reefs now in grave, potentially irreversible danger because of those temperatures. cnn went underwater and saw firsthand just how dire the situation is now. derek van dam is "out front." >> reporter: we're leaving the marina on a scientific expedition. we've come here to determine how the coral reefs off the florida peninsula are coping with unprecedented ocean heat. if anyone can tackle this

problem, it's these people. they're inspired and they're motivated and they're on the front lines of this climate emergency every day. >> i think one of the big questions we have as scientists is what explains why some corals bleach severely and others don't. >> reporter: scientists aren't just worried about the high water temperatures, they're concerned this is only july and the hottest months are ahead of us. >> corals are sensitive to heat. i'm worried we'll see a few bleached and stressed out corals. >> reporter: more than 90% of excess heat from greenhouse warming is stored in our oceans. and that doesn't just disappear. it can supercharge storms, melt our glaciers, and bleach coral reefs. bleached corals are still alive, but they're extremely stressed, highly vulnerable, and if the heat continues, they may die. the first location we dove to was south of key biscayne. >> i think we saw exactly what we fear, which is that this is the moving front of severe bleaching up through the keys and now up into miami-dade.

>> it was just a remarkable moment to stand next to these century-old giants, right? i mean, how else do you describe it? but it was very eye opening to see this array of, mixture of completely dead coral, bleached coral, and healthy coral. so, i saw hope, but i also saw a tough situation. and i can see what heat stress really does to these animals. they're sensitive, and i witnessed it. it was humbling. >> is there still hope? >> absolutely. >> there's still hope. >> you know, the water conditions are actually cooling down somewhat. and on a day like this, we have overcast conditions. that all helps because it increases the stress building on the reefs. i hope that as far as this going, it doesn't increase and move forwards. the next few weeks will tell the story. >> next we headed north to miami to see the impact on the reef there. you may be thinking, why does the coral reef matter so much to us?

they are part of an interconnected ecosystem. it acts as a habitat for marine wildlife, so any impact on the coral will have an impact on the entire water ecosystem. something a lot of people may not realize. it's not just ocean life that relies on our coral reefs being healthy. they are mother nature's natural barriers. >> coral reefs provide this amazing structure that's key for breaking wave energy, as it comes toward our shores. they help to protect our beaches and coastal properties. >> and on this second dive, there was obvious relief felt by these scientists. >> that was completely different. >> a lot better. >> if you were happy, i was happy. i could see it in your eyes. we saw how much more alive these corals are. >> i can't tell you how relieved i am to see those nice, big, dark, happy colonies. >> that was a big difference. it really was. you could just see how healthy some of the corals were. it gives me a lot of hope that,

you know, if we can keep the temperatures down, these corals are going to survive. that was good. >> yeah, jim. it is a coral cliff hanger. it is not the end game. research scientists on the boat told me that because we still have the warmest months ahead of us, they have to be on full alert for this potential of coral bleaching to move north ward throughout the miami-dade region. could the water temperatures cool? certainly. a bit of rain, perhaps a tropical system that could bring upflow from the bottoms of the ocean and cool the ocean temperatures and help relieve the heat stress for these corals. jim, back to you. >> great story. a new statement from the family of the suspected gilgo beach serial killer, next. (ambience of room, birds, scrolling content on phone) you tried. limiting when it was okay.

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the wife of the suspected gilgo beach serial killer is speaking out. asa ellerup returned home and spoke about the condition of her house now that the investigation there is complete. >> her lawyer also released a statement that reads in part, quote, they, meaning the neighbors, deserve to live peacefully. i am pleading with you all to give us space so that we may regain some normalcy in our neighborhood. heuermann, who is charged with killing three women, is expected to appear in court next tuesday. thanks so much for joining us. thanks so much for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening. tonight on "360," new reporting about the identity of