isn't good moments. but it's -- it's exhilarating. you should do it. i'll put you in the harness. you might love it. >> yeah, okay. but you know, you are coming to washington this summer for the tour. >> i'll meet you there. >> but i don't know i'm going in a harness. >> my daughter's done it. >> your daughter's braver than i am. while i'm still considering pink's invitation, this wraps up season 306 "who's talking." we'll be back in the fall with brand new conversations. until then you can catch all our episodes including pink, brad paisley, and sharon stone anytime you want on max. thank you for watching and good night. good evening, everyone. i'm alison camerota. welcome to "cnn tonight."

law enforcement in washington is ramping up security tonight ahead of what they believe could be a new indictment against donald trump next week. and barricades are going up outside the courthouse in atlanta where trump is under investigation for 2020 election interference. so we're going to dive into next week's news tonight. also tonight presidential hopeful will hurd just got booed for saying this -- >> donald trump is running to stay out of prison. and if we elect -- i know, i know. i know. i know. listen, i know the truth. the truth is hard. >> we'll have much more on that in a moment. also, michael cohen is here. the former president's one-time lawyer knows very well how donald trump operates and how he gets his staffers to do his bidding. and if you're headed to the beach this weekend chances are you could see a shark.

record ocean heat is pushing hungry sharks closer to the shore like this one spotted near a crowded beach in florida . there's a lot going on tonight, so let's begin with the legal cases confronting donald trump. cnn's senior legal affairs correspondent paula reid is here. paula, great to have you. so one of the classified documents at the heart of this case was reportedly an attack plan involving iran. what new information do you have? >> this has been such a big question, alison, in this investigation because cnn broke the news there was a recording of the former president appearing to show an actual classified document to people

who did not have security clearances. but when the last indictment was released, that specific document was not included even though the recording was featured very prominently in the indictment. so in the superseding indictment it was notable they had added this document suggesting the government is in possession of it and it's a top secret document. but, alisyn, why wasn't this included in the first one? it's an outstanding question because cnn has learned this was one of the documents actually returned to the archives. and that is significant because it makes it harder to argue successfully in court that he willfully retained this. now, it could be the intelligence community had some concern about this that's been resolved. it also could be after prosecutors saw the former president on fox news insisting there was no document, they wanted to prove that he was lying. >> okay, so we've also learned there's this new codefendant. so what's going to happen on

monday with this new defendant in the case? >> so on monday carlos de oliveira will make his first appearance in federal court on monday. he has found himself at the center of this case for several reasons. one, is he allegedly lied to investigators. and this is the way very sophisticated people marketa stewart, general petraeus, find themselves criminally liable. once you make false statements to the government they can press you to plea, which is what they try here. and also he's been charged with this attempt to obstruct the obstruction. they allege he had a conversation where he was pressing another employee at mar-a-lago how they could delete surveillance footage. now, it's unclear how the addition to the case, these new charges, how this is going to impact the time line. but you can bet the trump lawyers for the former president are going to use this as they will anything to try to push

this back as far as they can. >> what do we know about de oliveira? what's his background? >> that's a great question and i'm sure he's wondering the same thing. he's someone a property manager at mar-a-lago. he's someone described as outside the circle. he doesn't have interactions with the former president or his close allies. it appears very much a case of wrong place, wrong time. he was promoted to property manager in january 2022 around the time this whole issue bubbled up. and it appears really the most unfortunate thing he did was allegedly not be honest with investigators because that gave them an in to press and plea, he did not want to do that, and now he's been charged in this larger alleged scheme. >> paula reid, thank you very much for all the new information tonight. so carlos de oliveira, the mar-a-lago property manager

accused of trying to delete security footage for, quote, the boss is just the latest to find himself in legal trouble. cnn's tom foreman reminds us just how long that list is. >> reporter: another week, another person close to donald trump in trouble. the property manager at mar-a-lago, carlos de oliveira like trump aide walt nauta has now been swept into the case over those classified documents, which the justice department said trump illegally took and held. trump denies it. >> this is harassment. this is election interference. >> reporter: but the charges against team trump have been mounting for years. start with steve bannon. >> i stand with trump and the kaunts constitution. >> reporter: the fire brand advisor has pleaded not guilty to new york state charges to conspirits to money laundering and fraud, but he's been slapped with four months in prison for another matter, ignoring the congressional subpoena about the january 6th attack. his jail time is on hold while

he appeals. allen weisselberg, trump's long time chief financial officer served four months for tax fraud and ordered to pay $2 million in back taxes, interest, and penalties. paul manafort, once trump's campaign manager he served two years in prison for bank and tax fraud, illegal foreign lobbying and more before trump pardoned him. also pardoned, former national security advisor michael flynn. >> the next president of the united states right here! >> reporter: he admitted lying to the fbi about his contact with russia before walking the admission back and suing the government for alleged malicious prosecution. >> he compromises almost everyone who works with him at some point or another. >> reporter: none of it surprises jack o'donnell. >> the man is the least compassionate and empathetic person i've ever met in my life. he doesn't care about anyone. >> reporter: and the list goes

on. george papadopoulos, rick gates, elliot brody, roger stone had had ties to trump, all wound up in legal jeopardy. and of course former trump attorney michael cohen was confined to three years after admitting several crimes including campaign finance violations. he says it's simple why so many follow trump into trouble. >> look, it's not as devious as you might think. the man is a cult leader, plain and simple. >> reporter: neither de oliveira or nauta responded to cnn's request for any further comment. those are the two men most recently tied to the mar-a-lago case. but that's not very uncommon, is it? many of those who were close to trump's inner circle have remained largely tight-lipped even as legal peril has seemed to swirl. alisyn? >> tom foreman, thank you. so michael cohen will be here live in just a moment. but first let's bring in former

u.s. attorney harry litman, and former prosecutor brian jakebs. harry, let me start with you. let's start with carlos de oliveira, the latest person to be caught in this legal web. according to the indictment de oliveira helped move about 30 boxes onto trump's plane but he denied knowledge of the boxes to the fbi. how much trouble could he be in? >> he was already in some trouble then, alisyn. he had several lies. they had him on surveillance footage. he was dead to rights. so they said to him, look, we want you to cooperate here and just tell us what else happened. and if you don't, we're going to charge you with something much more serious, obstruction, conspiracy to obstruct, which they also had him dead to rights on. because after the doj sends its draft subpoena saying we care about the surveillance footage, that's when we goes to employee

number 4, aka mr. tavris and says the boss wants this deleted and follows all kind of ham handed plans with him and tunnels and trying to figure out how he can get rid of the surveillance, et cetera. so he was in real hot water and now it's boiling and he accepted it and became a codefendant and said this is what i'm going to do then followed through. it's perplexing to say the least why he wants to be here when he certainly could have gotten a -- an easy deal. it surely doesn't seem in his interest nor in nauta's. and it's got all the earmark of sort of doing it for the boss, the mob boss in a way that really hurts your own self-interest. we'll see if reason overtakes him down the line, but for now he was loyal as the indictment says trump wanted to be sure he was. that's when trump said, okay,

i'll get you a lawyer. and now here he is caught in the web of a many year possible charge for conspiracy to obstruct justice. >> well, i think the point you just made last explains it, bryan, am i wrong? the fact donald trump provided the attorneys for walt nauta and now carlos de oliveira, and his political pac paid for the attorney fees. doesn't that explain why they're siding instead of cooperating with prosecutors? >> well, they certainly made a decision not to flip, and it will become less and less likely they flip as time passes. the fact they have lawyers who are likely working together with former president trump's lawyers on joint defense basis also reduces the incentive to flip. and at this point they won't get the full benefits of cooperation because the special counsel's office won't be able to say they cooperated immediately and were fully helpful. now there's already been this

passage of time. >> so the reason you know they haven't cooperated is because they're charged. so in other words, if they had cooperated we would see a different kind of charge or something different? >> well, there are a few indications of cooperation here. one is the delay referenced in the superseding indictment where de oliveira supposedly lied. and now when he gets charged, why wasn't he charged initially in the original indictment? almost certainly the special counsel was trying to flip him and failed to do so. >> harry, what can prosecutors do when -- when two defendants are being bankrolled basically or their attorneys fees are being bankrolled by another defendant, in this case donald trump's political pac. what can prosecutors do to help them cooperate? >> hope that they see reason. there's no brass knuckles here, but they talk to the lawyers. whoever they're being paid for are duty bound to represent their client zealously, and just

put it out there are you crazy? you have nothing to gain and everything to lose, and here's what we're coming at you with. and i agree it get less likely as time goes on, but still it may well be they played a game of chicken. de oliveira said, no, i'm not going to do it, and he got charged. but it continues to make no sense for him and all the sense in the world that he just, you know, explained the things that happened because they have him now with now a series of charges. and out of nowhere he's looking at many years in prison just because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time essentially. >> how strong is this case? because can they say -- they never say donald trump's name. they say the boss as far as we know from the indictment. can they say i wasn't referring to donald trump, i was referring to my supervisor.

>> the case seems to hinge a lot on trump employee 4. the key conversation about the boss wants this deleted, that's just a verbal conversation. and so a lot is riding on the word of the trump employee 4. the case against former president trump is stronger. there's of course the recording where he says i could have declassified this and so forth. and there's a lot more evidence. >> sure. but i'm saying with these two walt nauta and de oliveira, can't they say i was moving boxes because i wanted to clear out the storage room, or the boss isn't donald trump? how strong a case against them? >> i think the case is -- is modest against them. it is not as strong as the case against former president trump. the issue is saying, well, i wasn't doing it for -- he was their boss. in the end there's not an intermediate boss referenced in the superseding indictment, so there would be a defense, but it ultimately dd not make sense to a jury. >> harry, i read your notes and you said this is the most

mob-like conduct you've ever seen. how so? >> well, it so clearly -- and by mob-like, by the way, i'm thinking good fellas, not "the godfather." first of all, the complete loyalty to the boss. and in the indictment is de oliveira to be trusted, but then the, you know, complete sort of ham handed way they try to -- they don't realize there's surveillance footage. they go after it to try to just absolutely destroy the evidence. and essentially the whole loyalty point. because back to what you were just saying, look, what they're saying is i'll do some time in prison for donald trump and yet it doesn't make any sense especially, by the way, when you look at donald trump's track record as a mob boss. his loyalty seems to really only go in one direction. that's towards him.

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weaponized the department of justice against his critics." great to have you here, michael. okay, so just you heard lots of analysts have said donald trump is acting like a mob boss. how so? >> first of all, he's not acing like a mob boss. he is a mob boss. >> what does that mean? >> he's a mob boss, a cult leader. he knows exactly how to tell you what needs to be done without coming out and saying. >> can you tell us if he's not explicitly saying i want you to delete the security footage what does he he say? >> hey, you know, those things in the ballroom they need to be wiped out, you need to get rid of them. that's something he would say you know what i'm talking about, that recording thing,ioneed you to get rid of it. all of a sudden you have de oliveira. i kind of feel bad for this guy. unfortunately, the guy -- it's the first time probably in his life donald spent anytime with

him, and so all of a sudden he's feeling good about himself. oh, my god, the boss told me to take care of something. i've got to take care of it. this is his job, what he does, without thinking about the consequences. >> all of his neighbors and family report he worked there for 20 years. he started as i think a car valet or something. he worked his way up. so the fact donald trump had this 24-minute phone call with him, what would be -- is that customary? >> no, that is excessively long. i've had phone calls like that 24 minutes, sure, like right after something significant happened, right, where we would go through bit by bit by bit by bit. but donald trump is not a telephone guy. >> right, so in this case what's he saying for 24 minutes? >> right, he must have been explaining to him everything he wanted and probably once repet positive to make sure it gets done. here's where he made a big

mistake. >> who? >> donald. he has no-no idea what he's talking about when it comes to the technology. oh, get rid of it, get rid of it. this guy thinks by deleting the server that it would get rid of the footage that of course the government was looking for. no. what he failed to remember is that at 721 fifth avenue at trump tower, the chief operating officer and his son, he's in charge of all of the security. so there's a program that goes into the server that's in their office where they can see any camera that's attached to any property that has a trump name to it. and they can watch it in realtime. so it's being stored not just onto the program but onto another server. so this had to have also at some point in time gone through trump tower. if, in fact, the goal was to delete. >> and so though we're not seeing matt calamari's name in

the indictment. >> well, i don't know there's several different ways you can look at it. is he cooperating? is that a possibility? >> is it? >> look, if i was matt after seeing what happened to me especially to protect his son, sure, i would be providing truthful information. look, i know what it's like to get charged with 1,001 violations. and i want to remind all of your viewers my 1,001 violation had nothing to do with national security secrets, had nothing to do with deleting information off the server. it had to do with the number of times i stated to congress that i spoke to donald about a failed -- >> you went to prison three -- >> the real answer was ten and i went to prison for that. imagine what any of these other folks that will get caught up in this web, imagine what they're going to look at. >> and because you had that experience, michael, what is it like to be between a prosecutor who wants you to cooperate and

donald trump who really doesn't want you to cooperate and wants loyalty? what are those messages that you're getting from both sides? what's that like? >> it's like getting hit with a sledge ham door the right side of your head, and then as soon as you turn to the left, you get hit with a sledgehammer again but on the other side. i mean, that's what it's like. lej not forget especially at the time donald trump was the president of the united states of america. he was the most powerful man on the planet and then i had these wacka doodle prosecutors from the southern district of new york threatening if i didn't plead guilty in 48 hours, they were going to indict my wife. so which way do you turn, left right, left right? they don't play fair. but, again, neither does donald. to all these folks caught up in the web they're going to understand what it's like to be stuck between a tsunami, typhoon, a hurricane and everything else. >> you must understand what a powerful inducement it is for

them donald trump has found attorneys for them and his political pac is paying the attorneys fees. i'm sure they don't have the money for that. >> yeah, you know, the first thing they should do is separate out and figure out -- i'm sure there's somebody out there that would do it on pro bono if in fact they would come clean and say the truth. you remember what happened with me and bob costello. costello was a plant in from giuliani in order to glean information from what we were doing in order to feed it back to the boss. it goes right back to the mob scenario. this is what they do. donald trump doesn't care about oliveira. doesn't care what happens to him or his family, taveras, or nauta. it's a guy i've told on many different shows run. he's a guy in former military, put on your shoes and start

running because the faster you -- it's a little late for that now. he's already a codefendant now. remember how exercised donald trump was about hillary clinton's server and when he thought she was wiping information off her computer server. let's remind everybody he talked about it is a lot. here it is. >> she setup this illegal server knowing full well that her actions put our national security at risk and put the safety and security of your children at risk. there has never been anything like this where e-mails and you get a subpoena, you get a subpoena and after getting the subpoena you delete 33,000 e-mails. and then you ask to wash them or bleach them. >> he's now charged with doing that very thing. what are voters to make of this? >> so this is a big problem. first of all, we're talking about the same bleach that he wanted to stick into your lungs in order to get rid of covid. but this is typical donald trump

deflection. that's all he's doing. things that he knows that he did or would do, he then was imposing on somebody else, in this case hillary clinton. he has no respect for the law. he has no respect for the constitution. he truly doesn't care about anyone or anything. all he wants is what he wants. just like a petulant child. >> michael, thank you very much. we want to clarify cnn has no information about bob costello and the information you have. just clarifying. thanks for all of this. thanks for ininsights. >> anytime. >> have a great weekend. meanwhile gop presidential hopefuls are attempting to woo iowa voters tonight. we're going to tell you who was cheered and who got booed.

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13 gop presidential hopefuls gathering in iowa tonight for the state gop's lincoln dinner. and during their speeches some hit on culture wars, others took aim at former president trump. >> donald trump is not running for president to make america great again. donald trump is running to stay out of prison. and if we elect -- >> you will be voting in iowa while multiple criminal cases are pending against former president trump. >> they want to weaponize the irs just like they've weaponized the justice department and the fbi. and by the way, if i weren't running, i would have nobody coming after me. >> we have to win the tultural war here at home.

>> i'm not budging an inch. we are going to fight back against these people, and we are not letting them take over our schools any longer. >> okay, let's bring in cnn political analyst and a former digital organizer for hillary clinton. guys, great to have you here. that was very interesting, and by the way we were playing a little montage. that wept on for 30 seconds. he was talking about former president trump and he was being booed and having to navigate that for 30 long seconds. >> i want to be impressed and i totally agree with what he's saying. at the same time if will hurd wanted to take action he could have done so in 2019 when he was a member of congress, and he instead voted not to impeach donald trump. and guess what, we wouldn't be in this situation right now had he and other reasonable republicans actually taken that action. >> what do you think? >> look, i admire anyone who can get up in front of a crowd and be booed for 30 seconds because that's not easy. unfortunately, hurd is wrong.

obviously trump launched his campaign before he knew about all these indictments and before these were taken seriously but -- >> but don't you think donald trump knew he was -- there were legal entanglements coming up? >> i think his ego and sense of invincibility is strow strong that he doesn't think he's going to be held accountable for anything. at least he didn't at the time. >> so you don't think donald trump is running just to avoid some sort of -- >> i think he knew he was going to run the day he realized he wasn't going to be able to overturn the election. now, has it lit a fire under him that he knows the way to stay out of prison might be to be re-elected, sure. but i don't think that's the reason d'être of his campaign. >> i don't know about that. first of all, given the amount of evidence against him it is possible the only way he avoids prison is by winning the presidency. i do think everyone in his orbit

were panicked and knew multiple prosecutions would come down. that's why they stole the secrets. that's why they have this thing called gray mail where they try to prosecutors with we're going to expose these state secrets so you don't come after me. they actually had to pass a law which is what this skiff stuff and everything they're going back and forth with judge cannon about how to go over this classified information and share it appropriately because they want to avoid people like donald trump threatening prosecutors. >> let's move onto what else is happening this week in iowa because kim scott went after ron desantis for this new curriculum for african american history. this is basically this in florida, there is this new rtion of african american hiory that says in the curriculumnstruction includes how slavesevoped skills, which in some instances could be applied for their personal benefit. many people find that offensive. tim scott is one of them.

here's what he had to say about that. >> there's no silver lining. and slavery really was about mutilating humans. and we should ask them again to clarify their positions. >> okay, so he says there's no silver lining in slavery, and ron desantis today in iowa went after him for that. let's listen to him. >> part of the reason our country has struggled is because d.c. republicans all too often accept false narratives, accept lies that are perpetrated by the left. >> i don't think it's a false narrative. i mean we just read the curriculum out loud. it exists in there. what do you think? >> so, look, i think it is a false narrative. i think desantis is right on this one. so if you look at the whole curriculum, it requires teaching the, quote, harsh conditions and

their consequences of slavery. this is 200-page document. not all those pages were about slavery, but it requires teaching about heart conditions, requires teaching about the middle passage and one sentence as you quoted the fact that enslaved people developed skills which in some instances could be applied for their personal benefit. now, some people are interpreting that to mean there's a silver lining to slavery. there are some instances they used and that is true. right? after the civil war people went to work and used the skills they had many of which were -- >> they could also not been enslaved and developed those skills. what's the point including that sentence? >> the point of almost every ap curriculum about slavery teaches the fact there were specialized trades. there were slaves that learned blacksmithing, for instance. and you may object to the phrasing of this, but you can't object to the meeng of it. >> how is it not akin to say if

you get kidnapped you learn survival skills. and why would you ever say that to somebody who gets kidnapped? what's the benefit of pointing that out? i think the bigger story for me you have tim scott, you have nikki haley, vivek, pawns popped up to be a shield and the very second byron donald says actually i don't agree with this part of the curriculum, he's a supposed conservative. the minute tim scott dares protest he's a d.c. republican, he's no longer one of them in just a half second. i think this really calls out how empty this guise of we have this diverse slate of candidates running is. >> i think this is a deliberate twisting of words by tim scott in order to injure his political opponent. if this state curriculum wanted to minimize the horror of slavery, why would they require teaching the harsh conditions and consequences? why would they require -- >> there's no way around it.

there's no way around those. >> people have found ways around it through american history. if they required to teach about infant mortality, the malnutrition. i think this is a twisting of words in what is in general a good faith description of the aspect of the history. >> it's a 200-page curriculum. i would argue there's many pages written about slavery. the benefits of slavery don't rank among the -- >> the benefits of slavery is how you're phrasing it. that appears nowhere in the document. >> a decade ago it was all about how obama was using the public school system to indoctrinate children, and that's exactly what we're seeing play outright now which is that not only this but they announced prager university, a right-wing propaganda outfit, can now show cartoons in public schools. this is scary stuff happening in florida. >> great to see you guys. thank you for all of that. if you think there's more shark sightings lately, you're not wrong.

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if you're heading to the beach this weekend, chances are you could see a shark. you're not crazy. there are more shark sightings this summer. and sharks are behaving differently. they've changed their location and they're hungrier. take a look what happened in florida over fourth of july weekend. >> get out. get out of the water!

good gosh, people. get out! >> okay, joining us now from our sister network discovery which airs "shark week" wildlife biologist forest gelante. great to see you. what's going on? why are sharks getting closer to the shore? >> well, alisyn, it's one of the hottest summers we've ever seen and the sea surface temperatures are chachling slightly. particularly in the north east there's an increase in bumper populations which are bait fish, and that's bringing larger species like stripe bass and seals. with all those factors at play, what you have is sharks that are hunting close to shore, and of course people are going to the beaches, they're hanging out close to shore themselves, and so we're seeing an increased likelihood of an encounter more than anything else. >> forest, i've also read that the ocean because it's getting hotter, that is speeding up the shark's metabolism, and that

makes them hungrier. then what happens? >> that's a good question, and as jawsy that all sounds what it means is it requires more energy for sharks to simply lift. they have to eat more, they have to burn more calories just to stay alive, just to swim, and so they're feeding more. but what the sharks ultimately end up doing is leaving these stagnant warm-water zones and traveling to new areas. some of those areas are deeper in the sea where the water is cooler and some of them particularly in the hemisphere are further north. it's changing the dynamic and behavioral of the sharks so they can continue to survive and thrive. they're moving locations and changing how they eat and what they eat more so than just eating in general. and at the end of the day what i'm trying to say is we're not anymore danger, it's the sharks actually in danger. >> i do want to get to how the sharks are in danger, but just to make sure if they are anymore

closer to the shore where we're swimming and they are hungrier, is it more likely they will eat humans? >> it's really not and i'll explain why. because ultimately sharks do not view human beings as a prey source. anytime we have a negative shark encounter it is because of a case of mistaken identity. often that's in low visibility areas, high turbbidity areas, near where people are fishing or cutting bait. and so the sharks are in a feeding mode and then make a mistake, but unfortunately which a shark makes a mistake, it makes an investigative bite and then goes, yuck, i don't want to eat that. they don't have hands to go and feel and figure if out that's something i want to eat, they have to go and taste it. that's why the bites we see are not fatal. they're terrible accidents, nonetheless, but not terrible attacks because the sharks aren't trying to eat people. they're having a taste and going, whoa, this is not what i signed up before moving on and continuing to look for the prey they're hoping for. >> now let's talk about shark's

health and survivability. i didn't know they're some of the most endangered marine animals on the planet. and so now what? now that they're in trouble what's the answer? >> yeah, it's a good question. you know, the one silver lining is sharks are one of the oldest living organisms on the planet and they're incredibly adaptable and they've been around for millions of years. one quote i like to use is sharks have been around longer than trees. i'm a silver linings guy. i always like to think of the positives, and i like to think and hope that sharks will figure out a way to survive. all that being said, things are changing. the climate is changing, and things are shifting in the ocean, and sharks are shifting their behaviors because of that. and so they are up against stress and pressure that's compounding not just from the heated sea but from the acidification of corals like you're seeing here, like depleted fisheries from

overharvesting. so this set of compounding factors is driving their population to a mere factor what it should be, and that's a big cause for concern, alisyn, because ultimately a sea without sharks is not a good thing for us as human beings. it means our survivabilities goes down tremendously because the ocean is the most important on our planet when it comes to oxygen, rain, temperature well, i really appreciate that shift in perspective that we don't have to see them as these predators, that we can see them as obviously harbingers as health of the ocean. thank you so much. we'll be right back. ♪ helps you stay connected, ♪ safe ♪

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