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meeting at this moment, the grand jury investigating donald trump for the events surrounding january 6th. the former president says that he is assuming that he will be indicted again. could we hear a decision from that grand jury today? we are getting new video from the front lines showing ukrainian counter offensive just as the russian officials are making changes to stop ukrainian drones after a new drone strike on moscow overnight. photos showing the boxes piled up inside of the man accused of being the gilgo beach serial killer, and the look into the life of the man due in court today, and we are also hearing from the soon-to-be ex-wife.

i'm sara sidner with john berman, and all of that is coming up right now on cnn "news central." it could be as soon as today, the twice impeached and twice arrested former president of the united states could be indicted for a third time. the federal grand jury investigating donald trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election results is meeting right there, behind the court in washington, d.c., and what is unclear at this moment is if they are voting on a potential indictment. trump posted on his social media account yesterday that he expected to be indicted this week. cnn crime and justice reporter katelyn polantz is outside of the court watching movement, and katelyn, when the indictment is handed up, how will we get word? how do you know that this will have happened since they are

meeting in secret? >> well, if and when, sarah, the grand jury approved an indictment against donald trump and if and when the justice department presents it to them for a vote today or in the coming hours or in the coming days, we will know about it once it is processed by the court. meaning, that once a magistrate judge looks at it, and it is approved and then it can be made public. it might be under seal or not. and so, we will learn about that once the grand jury takes the unprecedented action of indicting the former president for actions that he took while he was president. we are expecting this very soon potentially, because donald trump has been told that he is a target in the investigation facing possible charges and also because his defense lawyers have already met with the special counsel's office, and we have seen this pattern play out before once before when the special counsel's office indicted donald trump in florida

for actions that he took after the presidency, a separate case related to his handling of the classified and national security material at the mar-a-lago beach resort. but here, there is big questions that we are looking forward to, sara, and that is specifically, what does the justice department put into indictment. we know they have had an extensive amount of evidence that they have gathered from not just what happened in washington on january 6th, and what happened in the white house around donald trump's immediate team after the election, but also what was being felt and seen and done in battleground states around the country. so how that all comes together and if the justice department has received any information in the course of their investigation that goes further than what the house select committee that extensive ly foud in that potential indictment. when you get the indictment

paperwork, it can be a short piece of paperwork with the charges or it can be quite lengthy explaining why the justice department has chosen to bring charges. so we are looking forward to that, and it is a lot of activity around donald trump and the federal investigations in recent days, and now, all eyes are back here in washington around the grand jury here that has been meeting for many months looking at donald trump and the 2020 election. >> can you tell us a little bit about what is happening in georgia a state case looking at the same issues as to what happened there during the 2020 election cycle. give us a sense of what is happening, and there is new movement in that case, is there not? >> right. so they have a grand jury that has been convened as well. two in fact. they could be asked to hear and approve charges against donald trump and others as that investigation has gone forward separately at the state level

from the federal investigation here in washington. that investigation as far as we know is focused around what happened in georgia. it is a georgia investigation conducted by the fulton county district attorney, and one of the things that has surfaced recently is that there was a subpoena that went out to a journalist from atlanta who had gone into the state capitol in december of 2020 and stumbled upon the meeting of trump electors gathering to put forward electoral votes that were in fact illegitimate, and donald trump had not won the state of georgia, but they had gathered and sent in the electoral votes to congress, and this journalist has been subpoenaed to testify to the grand jury in georgia to look at the possible indictment separately there. sara. >> katelyn, we will be back to you as soon as you hear anything. john? >> or maybe not at this point. with us now at this point, is

michael moore, attorney at moore and hall, and to the point that we are hearing there, donald trump has received a target letter, and donald trump's lawyers are saying that they believe they will be indicted and they have met with prosecutors, and we don't believe many or any crucial witnesses to testify before that grand jury. at this point, what's the holdup if there is one for an indictment? >> well, i am glad to be with both of you, and i am telling you that he, being the special counsel, he is using the belt and suspenders method to make sure that he has everything covered and anything that he may not have anticipated that anybody else has thought of, that he is covered that as well, and i believe that you are likely to see the indictment today or thursday as the grand jury that has been hearing the case meets. it is important that they consider frankly, the evidence that has been presented and the grand jury is either going to have a summary of the information or have heard some of it originally, but all that

matter has been placed before them, and you will see the indictment come out without a great deal of fanfare until we get to time of the initial appearance. i would not be surprised at all to see it this week. >> you say a summary which is getting to my next question. what are the final things that happen before the grand jury typically votes on the indictment? >> so, a grand jury needs to actually have evidence presented, but it can be presented to the body as a summary. so, you know, you may have had witnesses testifying, and depositions or recorded interviews, and they don't have to sit there and to listen to every bit of it. you can have a grand jury that hears summaries of the investigation of the steps that has been done, and that why you can have multiple grand juries working at any time, and summaries can be given from one grand jury to another, and in a case like this, all of the what i would call the critical evidence or the vast majority of

the evidence has been given to a grand jury, and that grand jury then will vote. the prosecutor comes in, and they will have a chance to speak to the grand jury before those deliberation, and also, the grand jury will make a decision and vote. and then that indictment goes through the usual process of being returned in court, and there have been discussions of whether the indictment is going to be sealed and how we deal with it if a true bill comes out, and nobody is going to be surprised if there is a indictment, and a good prosecutor can get an indictment in a case like this, and then the court will make sure that trump or whoever is charged will be informed of the charges against them, and you will see a lot of what happened in the case of florida, and mimic that, but a different courthouse with a different judge, and srt of different allegations. >> and when you do, and if there is an indictment, when you do get to read it, and it may not happen right away, and we may learn that there is an indictment, and maybe days before we see what is inside of

it, but when you are able to read it, what are you looking for specifically. katelyn polantz laid out the intriguing angles, and what are you looking for? >> from jack smith, i want to see the detailed indictment, and i think that this is the most serious of the allegation, and this is what is the most serious, and we watched it live around january 6th, and heard the press conferences of trump and the statements given about the election so that the public knows that, but at the same time the public wants a very detailed indictment. you could have a indictment that is technically very well written and accurate, but it does not have enough detail. you could have a poem that is a haiku, right, but you want something that is longer in verse. so i want to see in this indictment really special counsel spelling out what involvement was, what the specific allegations were, and particularly the instances of

evidence that should be listed in the indictment, and i'm less worried about identifying the less witnesses, but am interested to see how they prove to allegations they set forth. i think that the -- i think that builds confidence and public confidence in the actions of a prosecutor as he or she plans to move forward with the case. i think that is what we will see other than the original documents case in florida. >> one of the interesting things that we will see is how much additional detail the special counsel has than what was provided to the country in the january 6th hearings, because the special counsel has been able to talk to the witnesses who took the 5th or didn't testify at all such as mark meadows or others who did not provide details in an indictment if and when it comes. thank you. >> thank you.

and now, there are details that need to be worked out that we are learning about at this house -- let's go to natasha bertrand at the pentagon, and what is happening with the f-16s? >> yeah, sara. the training coalition, and the training program for the f-16s to train the ukrainian pilots on the aircraft is to begin in august, and that is the understanding of the european officials and volodymyr zelenskyy have expressed publicly, but there are a number of issues that need to be worked out, and chief among them is that the u.s. still needs to approve the training program that the europeans come up with, because the f-16 is an american technology. the problem though is that according to u.s. officials, the europeans have still not submitted a final syllabus or the training program for the u.s. to sign off on. and so everything is kind of on hold right now until the biden

administration receives that training plan and then authorizes it. the training cannot begin until the u.s. signs off on the provision of thing like ssim yu yulators and white simulators and that is because it is a u.s.-owned plane. so the u.s. is waiting for the europeans who are taking lead on the training of the f-16, and waiting for the syllabus, and other things that have to be worked out before this training can begin. the u.s. for its part is deciding whether or not it is going to send american pilots over to europe to train these ukrainians on the f-16s. and the ukrainians themselves have to undergo english language proficiency programs, because these f-16 planes are operated using english, and so all of the issues are compounding at this moment. we are told that any syllabus,

and any training program that the ukrainians begin to undergo, whether it is this month or next month is going to be similar to the hypothetical training course that the u.s. air force actually designed after assessing two ukrainian pilots who came to the u.s. earlier this year to be assessed on their skills on the f-16. the u.s. air force deviced this training program that could be used for the ukrainian pilots in the future, and that determined that the pilots could be feasibly trained within four or five months, and much faster than americans to be trained from scratch. and the syllabus is going to be looking like that, and the u.s. has to be seeing that training program like that, and so for now, it is on hold. >> and the ukrainians have quickly grasped the other

technology that the u.s. has provided. and now, we have video of a drone that the ministry of defense says was brought down, and it is one of three that targeted moscow, and one of the several attacks in the last few days. ukraine has not claimed responsibility for it, but there are connections to it in the footage. and now, in the counter offensive as they try to push forward in the territory held by the russians. cnn's nick paton walsh has been with the troops on the front lines. >> reporter: the fight is so fierce and the victory so bitter there is very little of the tiny four-road village and the full tloting of the counter offensive. so small, and symbolic that

russia claimed monday that it had pushed ukraine out of it monday. and these men are fresh back from that fight. kre kcre crevasse, the call sign, fought all ten days until the russians fled. here he is with the shells raining around in advance of the fight. when you assault under enemy shelling, he says, you have nowhere to hide, and that's the hardest part. they have since tried to assault again with smaller groups. he fought here near the town before it where the russians hid 200 troops in the basement and not even leaving for the toilet, and so ukraine attacked ed with smaller force. he went to where the russians made a final stand, and the

school held in the corridors, and there is no love says the wolf. and there is nothing they relish and left no clues as to why they fought. one to hard things for the ukrainians to understand is why the russians fought so hard for here, and for the area down the road. is it the last line of defense? no, they believe there is far more fighting to be done. i hope that when we get through the last line of defense he says, then they start to run. for now, they still feel there is something behind them. yeah, we feel support, but we are very, very tired. there is so much ahead to come, and ukraine may have put in the reserves to fight, but they are facing same russian brutality.

the tactics have not changed and they put the tactics in front, and they stand to the death, and i don't understand the motivation or what they are fighting for. he carries a new ak-12 as a trophy as he describes the gas they used on him. there was chaotic shooting he says to find out where we were, and then the gas. you don't feel it, because it is moving slow along the ground. i was packing my rock sack when i felt burning on my nose and throat. one mine zapper, call sign volt was starting to put it under the grenade mine when he is attacked. almost endless, the noise of

outgoing fire, and they are moving, but just not sure how much longer for. nick paton walsh, cnn, nakutchne, ukraine. and now, the gilgo beach serial killer suspect makes his first appearance in court. and now, a new poll shows donald trump in a strong position. and we will break down the verbal spat between vice president kamala harris and governor ron desantis. d actualp for less than all this. i made a horrible mistake. ♪ go to your happppy price ♪ ♪ p priceline ♪ when you shop wayfair,

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the accused gilgo beach serial killer is being charged with the murder of three women whose remains were found on a long island beach. we are also getting a look inside of the home that he shared with his now estranged wife. we go to brynn gingras who has the latest. >> yes, we are expecting him to appear in court for a status hearing of rex heuermann, and the first time he is charged with the bodies of those women

who were found on the beach more than a decade ago. we are also expected to hear from the district attorney this afternoon and one of the big questions is going to be is he expecting charges of a fourth victim. and in the meantime, we have heard from the divorce attorney of his estranged wife as you mentioned, and she talked about how she is returning to her house, and her life is chaotic, and she says when she goes to her house, she and the family are taking an inventory of what is left after the police spent two weeks there. this is a listen to her attorney. >> everything in the house was turned upside down, and dresser drawers emptied out, and the bathroom tub which was a vinyl tub was cut up, and the couches and mattresses removed and just piles and piles of debris that

were left in the residence and barely walking space to get into the house, and it is overwhelming for her and the children to piece back life to what it was 2 1/2 weeks to go, and i don't know if it will ever return to normalcy. >> as you can hear, she is just trying to piece together her life as it stands with her two children that she shared with heuermann. we are not expecting to hear from heuermann in court today, but there is some communication between heuermann and his estranged wife over the phone while he is behind bars burk no meeting between the two, and we will be in court today and give you the latest. >> thank you, brynn gingras, thank you very much. sara? >> and to discuss the latest is misty who is an attorney who goes to court, and you have been

there. >> yes, i do. >> and now, the picture there, and there is a huge hole in bath tub, and it has been cut awayk a ap -- and what in the world are they looking for and can the police do that and just walk away? >> yes, this warrant, i have gone through it with a fine-toothed comb, and the police are looking for evidence that could have been hidden for ten years, and looking for trophies of the victims and electronics, and all sorts of things are encompassed by the police, and when there is a valid police, they can go in to destroy items as long as it is reasonable. and so it was a deep dive into the house, and especially digging up the backyard and that is to link dna to the victims or potentially to other crimes that could have been committed and

this search is really big search and reasonable under that standard. >> the estranged wife and family saying they knew nothing of this, and the prosecutor saying that he did some of these things while they were on vacation and come home to this, and a difficult find. now, he has gone to work once and pleaded not guilty in the normal arraignment, and what is this about? >> to the family to the extent that this man is living a double life and didn't know, and what a world to come back to, and as far as court, a couple of things could happen. as simple as a scheduling hear, and just something to go through the motion of the dates and something like that, and secondly, his attorney reserved right to seek bail at the arraignment, and he could seek an argument for that, and third, the prosecutors may be speaking, and remember, he is charged with the murder of three victims, and there is a fourth where he is the prime suspect, and they have now searched home, and they had

not done that before, and so could there be a fourth set of charges coming down the pike, and that what we are watching for at 2:00 p.m. today. >> a lot of people cannot believe how long it was, and they have been able to track down a suspect after all of these years. and how important is it that there are new ways to deal with dna? that is the crux of the case. >> this is huge. it is like pulling a piece of yarn and unraveling it. it starts with identifying the vehicle and finding a database that puts the area of zones where the individual lived or works and he fits there, and then three hairs found, and mitochondrial testing that was not readily found back then, and that is called the lockhard's trace, and then a hair that belongs to him, and all

identified by dna and this is used so much in criminal cases, and 10, 12 years ago, not so much. this is a key factor, and by the way, something that the defense going to focus on, because it is experts, experts, experts, and a large part of what we will be seeing in the pretrial motion practice. >> and a large argument that the dna is not reliable and the matching is not reliable, and interesting to see it play out, but for the families going through it, it is remarkable time and also a terribly, terribly sad time. >> on one hand, closure, and finally somebody who is held accountable, and of course, we have to go through the trial process, but on the other hand, you are reliving the trauma as the family members who are now seeing this all play out. then the added, he has two children and his wife, they knew nothing about this, and they are also experiencing incredible trauma, and thinking, did we even though this person for 27 years. a lot going on here.

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brand-new video into cnn with president biden riding his bike there on rehoboth beach, and he is there for the week spending time at his family home. you know, running for president is just like riding a bike, and you don't forget how. and the new poll shows how tight a biden former president trump would be. a new poll shows no clear leader and each at 43% among unlikely voters, and 14% say neither. and jessica dean is joining us now with some of the number behind the top number there in the new poll, jessica. >> yes, it is important to look deeper and extrapolate from there new information, but the top line number that you showed us, and so many american voters are looking at that, and what

the feelings are of a repeat of 2020 in so many ways and the thing to keep in mind it is a national poll, and as we all well know, no president is elected by popular vote. however, it is going to give us a good snapshot of where the things are playing out right now, and how they are playing out, and if you were president biden and his team, you are happy to see this number, which is the democrats who support president biden, and he has seen this number now going up to 45%, and at this time last year it was 26%. and so, again, that is news that is welcomed to biden and his team, as they start to see the democrats coalescing around the president who is now running for re-election, john. it is remarkable to look at that head-to-head with everything that is going on with former president donald trump and all of his legal issue, and to see that number right there, and essentially a dead heat. >> yes, one, two, maybe more indictments soon, and he is still neck and neck with joe biden there.

let's talk about the republic canrepublican primary with ron desantis who has done an event in concord, new hampshire, and he has done a back and forth about the history curriculum inside of florida which talked about slavery. vice president kamala harris went to florida to criticize that curriculum, and this is what governor ron desantis said about it. >> we sent a letter to kamala harris to come to debate the florida educational standards, and none of it was true, and she came to florida to attack us, and she is trying to attack us, but she is attacking people who worked hard on this. >> and note that he consistently mispronounces the vice president's first name, and this is something that is following the governor for some days and

earning him criticism from african-american republicans. >> yes, it is not just from vice president harris, but also from tim scott who is a 2024 rival in the gop, and says there is no silver lining in slavery. and this where both of them think they can win with the supporters. harris believes this is an issue, and the biden campaign rather that it is an issue where they can send her out as a rapid response voice and push back on one of the top gop presidential contenders, and meantime, the florida governor believes this is an issue that work for his base, and he wants to double, triple-down on this, and he is hearing about sending this letter to vice president harris to invite her down to florida to have essentially a debate about this. to take you back to where it began. the florida board of education

passed a new standard for teaching african-american history in florida and part of the curriculum is to teach how slaves developed skills in which in some instances they could be apply for their personal benefit. the desantis camp has pushed back on the criticism saying it is cromparable to the language n a.p. studies, and other like tim scott have criticized saying it is unnecessary debate whether they benefitted from the slavery, and she said, are you kidding me. we will see how and if she responds to this, and good for both sides to be duking this out in public view. >> thank you, jessica dean. sara. and do the latest biohacks that pop up in your news feed actually work, and can aging be stopped and much less reversed? dr. sanjay gupta is here to break it down and you don't want to miss what he has to say next.

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sara sidner is among the many people who would like to live a long and healthy life. >> maybe. >> and there are some who are going through extraordinary lengths to achieve this goal. cnn's chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta is out with the podcast "chasing life" with biohacking. that is what i feel like i call a science teacher i don't like. bio hack. but it is something different. >> it is chasing a long life. >> look, if you are wanting a long life, you want it to be healthy. >> health span, and it is something that is quite popular

and it is the idea of enhancing the natural biology and to give you context, they say that we could live to about 115 years. >> oh, god. >> and we are leaving 25 years on the table, and 30 years on the table, depending upon how you live, and that is where the biohacking community is coming, from and there is the dorian gray approach which says that we can slow down aging. the wolverine approach, we can reverse aging. the peter pan approach, never age in the first place, but part of it is the dorian gray approach about slowing things down. >> john is losing his mind. >> look, it is, you know, everything from intermittent fasting to cold plunges, to peptides to everything from new medications, and this is multi billion dollar industry, and the people are focusing on how to enhance your natural biology this way. >> i am sorry -- >> and i love that there are different schools, the wolverine

school. >> i am in the wolverine school, and i'm all about the x-men, and do they work? evidence that they work? if so, give me some. >> that the beautiful thing about the scientists, because to know about if it works to increase your life span, it requires decades of studiessh and you have to compare yourself to you. but there is a lot of momentum among the anti-aging researchers and one guy who is the head of the aging institute at albert einstein and i asked him if it works. >> reporter: can we say that if you are taking metformin, can you delay aging process? >> yes, because it is the human decline, so you take care of the immune decline, and you will do

much better, so met formin has one of the hallmarks of preventing aging. >> and metformin is approved for diabetes but not anti-aging, because of the ways that we measure it, inflammation and immunity, and that is how it is targeted and this is why people in that world are taking the medications like that, and the science is going to take a while to nail down, but it is fascinating. >> and what about standing up? because they took away our chairs? >> yes. and sitting is a big killer. they say that sitting is the new smoking, and it is not a cute adage, but it is true. >> and so we are standing here, and we are trying all of this stuff, and i won't mention names, but he is trying it all, and he says that he is feel like a 6-year-old, and he is 50.

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a fight for survival at the women's world cup. team usa advanced to the knockout round, but it was not pretty. the two-time defending champions weren't able to score a goal in a tie. andy scholes is with us now. boy, that was a stretch. thank god for that goalpost.

>> might have been the mvp of the day. it was not a great performance from team usa. and because the netherlands were beating vietnam handedly, a goal this morning and a u.s. would have been out of the world cup entirely. and i mean, it was about this close from happening. u.s. was inches away from elimination. gets loose here and shoots a bole ball right off the post. luckily, that did not go in. the u.s. had 6 shots on goal, but unable to score in this one. it was the sixth time ever the u.s. failed to score in a world cup game. but a 0-0 draw was good enough to get second and advance to the knockout round. advance to what carli lloyd had to say on the fox broadcast about what she thought about the team's performance. >> today was just simply

uninspiring, disappointing, they don't look fit. they are playing as individuals. it's okay to be confident, but you never want to cross that line of being arrogant. and this is exactly what can come and bite you. >> some harsh words there from carli lloyd. their coach said question ing te competitiveness is just insane. now next up for team usa, a likely matchup against sweden. that's going to be 5:00 a.m. sunday morning. now sweden kind of considered the cryptonitis for usa. they have beaten them a at two straight olympics. the question now is, will these performances light a fire under the team? can they flip the switch? if they keep playing this like, they are not going to win the third straight world cup. >> my coanchor might not make it to work. his nerves will be too shredded to make it to work. just letting you know. i'm sure you'll be here. >> rose got that second yellow card. she's not going to be available on sunday. that's also a big loss for the

team. >> the coach there, they just -- he has never shown the ability to make this tempt greater than the sum of its parts. nor any kind of strategy where they play soccer. ann dirks i hope i talked talk to you after a u.s. victory. >> looking forward to it. thank you all for joining us. this has been "cnn news central." "inside politics" is up next. at pnc b bank, you can find us in big cities and small towns across the us, where our focus is to always support the people who live and workhere. cause you call these communities home, and we do too. pnc bank.

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