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>> i have no doubt. >> you don't know yet. >> taylor swift has a big decision to make. is she going to cancel the rest of her soldout concerts in los angeles since the labor strike or keep her fans happy? measure four dozen politicia sent this open letter asking her to stand with hotel workers and postpone her tour date. the lieutena gernor also signed the letter and is accusing her of swift hypocrisy. in the meantime, hollywood studios asked the writers guild back to the negotiating table. we'll see where that goes. no talks set. "cnn this morning" continues right now. for the first time this year, the president of the
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united states has been arraigned on fell analyst charges. this time for alleged crimes against democracy itself. >> after pleading not guilty, i'm told he was in a sour and dejected mood. >> this is a very sad day for america. >> this is the biden plolitical law fair. this is election interference at its finest. >> it feels like a great vindication of the rule of law. they turn. >> very concerned about the charges and privately he's been really frustrated. what it means for his legacy. >> this is going to be a threat to public trust in the justice system going forward. >> there's no question that donald trump. >> absolutely laughable. what's the fraud? tell me what the fraud is. you're entitled to raise a question. that's the uniqueness of the first amendment. that's the uniqueness of america. we're going to have to lose another psych toll figure you we have to pick somebody else other than donald trump. >> this could be an inflection point. demonstrating our commitment to the rule of law.
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>> this is a huge case. >> they are now on the other side of the united states. >> that's right. quite a week it has been. it is friday, time to digest all of this. good morning, we're glad you're with us. >> we have new reporting on trump's state of mind and his political positioning after he pleaded not guilty for the third time in a courtroom in just four months. this time based on his efforts to cling to power after his 2020 election loss, the calendar is coat. the next hearing is key. his lawyers say everyone is setting the stage for a chaotic campaign season. trump's lawyer foreshadowing they are prepared to use the charges to revisit his election fight. s. >> we will relitigate every single issue in the 2020 election in the context of this litigation. >> house speaker kevin mccarthy also coming out with a new defense of trump.
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equating his actions with those of al gore and hillary clinton after their election losses. listen. >> you're entitled to raise a question. you're entitle d to question whether it was honest or not. that's the uniqueness of the first amendment. that's the uniqueness of america. you shouldn't be prosecuted for your thoughts. the difference here is when hillary clinton said it, nothing happened to her. when they said it in georgia's election, nothing happened either. >> also overnight, democratic lawmakers are peing that the federal judge that's going to oversee the case asking th trial to be televised despit rules prohibiting that, but judges can make decisionon this. this is what letter reads. given the historic nature of the charges, it's hard to imagine a more powerful circumstance for televised proceedings. our team was in the courtroom yesterday. van pevan perez joins us. the next hearing is august 28th.
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that's when the judge is going to set a trial date, right? >> this is right. the judge is going to signal that come august 28th, she wants to set a hearing. she's given the trump team and the prosecution seven days each for them to brief and provide information for their preferences. then she will set a date. that is really fast. in miami where the former president is also facing charges related to the mar-a-lago classified documents, you spend a month just waiting for walt nauta, his codefendant, to be arraigned. so you can see that this is a court that we have seen repeatedly in the january 6th cases. we have seen these judges set quick trial dates. they want to ajuddjudicate heez cases because they believe these people should face justice
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before the next election and try to prevent that from happening again in the next one. so what we anticipate is, as you heard there from the former president's attorn, we expect that he is going to raise a lot of issues. helrdy raised them in court yesterday. he said this is a very accocomplicated case. he believes that we have a lot of issues that have to be l litigated. he also pointed out that the special counsel had two and a half years to investigate this matter and that they are going to have to have a lot of discovery to go through before they can get ready to try it. he raised the possibility it could be a 9 to 12-month trial. the judge will make the final decision with the understanding that they the to make sure the former president has a fair trial. yesterday in court, he sat there and seemed not pleased about something that was given to him, some of the parmwork given to him. he and jack smith had clear
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sights on each other. several times they looked at each other, which is different from the previous proceeding where they could not have sight lines of each other. >> that's really interesting. so few people get to be in the courtroom. you got to see all that. also in georgia, we could see a fourth indictment. the grand jury expected to meet there today. anything that's been happening this week there that indicates to you that decision on indictment might come sooner than later? >> we have seen from the team his district attorney there has already issued subpoenas to potential witnesses. they would be given 48 hours before they get told when to show up. what that indicates is that she really does mean to bring charges. you don't subpoena people for new testimony to the grand jury that's going to make the
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decision if you're not planning to bring charges. so the timeline now appears to be sometime later this month. it could happen at any time. we know that the grand jury expires later this month, so we anticipate that it will come probably later in the month simply because i think for the security of the grnd jurors and the court, they want to make sure that everything is done so they can get out of the courthouse before they hand those out. >> that's really interesting development. evan perez, stay with us. joining us is david chalian, phillip, and former assistant attorney for the southern district of new york hoelie hon. david, i want to start with you. we saw kevin mccarthy come out yesterday and make public comments. it's not a rarity. try to make the comparison to strawman, but what's most interesting is in the indictment itself as it relates to kevin
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mccarthy, there's actually a passage in there, and i want to read it and show people. it says at 3:00 p.m., the defendant had a phone call with the minority leader of t united states house of representatives. that's mccarth the defendant told the minority leader that the crowd at the capitol was more upset than the leader. there's very few instances, there's no sourcing or details for the call. i reported on this call. we had some of this. what do you make of that? >> we had quite a lot of it. there were other members of congress telling what they understood and overheard mccarthy describing about the call. so there's a lot of information that's been out there. the context of that moment and that being the indictment, it's interesting when it comes to mccarthy on the trump spectrum. that is the moment where the split began for like a week or whatever it was.
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a few days where like you could start seeing in this phone call you can hear the way that we have learned about it that mccarthy and trump are simply not in the same place. that went on for a few days. and then he went down to mar-a-lago and turned it around and realized for political viability and the aublt to become speaker and stay in his position in the party, trump is going to have to be part of that. he went back to the point that he makes comments like yesterday where they are just you know kevin mccarthy well. .com county does not believe what he's saying in those comments. he just doesn't. he's searching for some argument to make to stay loyal and staed fast to trump. >> your reporting on this, it's in manufacturing industry. >> i should just leave it there. >> he has all of this bad news that he's trying to deal with. the way he's dealing with it is
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he and his allies are trying to come up with rationals. it's really important when we talk about his attorney, when you welcome at his interviews, the first words were to compare it to the january 6th committee. you do that because you're making a a political argument. when the rest of the trump attorneys are thinking about this case, what they are thinking about is getting it past november 2024. it's very explicit. now they are saying we want to keep this out until after the election. donald trump's strategy has been basically from the beginning the political strategy. i get elected president, this all goes away. frnkly, when we speak to legal experts, that's probably his best bet. he and his allies, they are doing whatever ta can to come up with some excuse, not to convince the judge or the jury, but they are going to convince his base. all this is unfounded and he's under attack. what the bidens are doing is worse. that's why we hear the arguments and why we hear kevin mccarthy
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saying things. >> one of the things i have been fixated on is the speed with which the special counsel has been able to bring both the mar-a-lago case and this case. a lot of democrats were frustrated with the attorney general. seems to be moving very quickly. is the election part of that? is that why they have moved so fast or was this just right and ready at this moment? >> absolutely. they have been paying attention to the political calendar. they had to. one of the things that the justice department does, they have rules of how to adjudicate or bring cases and get out of the way of the political calendar, get out of the way of the election. ever had a president in this positionr ex-president in this position before. they are having to sort of adjust the rules to fit this set of facts, this script.
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so they are fully aware of the fact that they want to try to at least make sure they bring the charges and then put it in the hands of judges to see if they can bring the cases before the voters make their decision. david chalian and i have been talking about this a lot. it's kind of a little too late. they already crashed into the political call calendar. so the criticism is going to come. one thing that i think is going to be -- we're going to hear a lot more in the coming months is i think these cases were -- everybody at the jvts department knew the political atmosphere around these cases. and jack smith's appointment really turbo charged this and made them come a lot faster, perhaps it might have been some of the politicale leaders ma might have been more hesitant buzz of the criticism they are getting. jack msmut is not that.
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he came in from outside he's appointed specifically to try to remove the politics from this. it really turbo charged the two cases to come more quickly. >> i'm so interested in what you think is going to happen in georgia because of that specific reporting that evan just gave us. it looks like from that that would point to an indictment. but what's so imponteresting, i read that profile in "the new york times," where he digs into who she is, how she's gone after everyone from teachers to gangs in atlanta. it talks about how complex the charges are that she has brought in that way. what does that tell us a about what she maybe bringing here against trump, because it has taken a very long time. >> it could hardly be clear that she has every intention of indicting donald trump and doing it soon. she has been forecasting this, hyping this up for years. by the way, also contribute ingo
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the timing problem that evan identified. willis has a really impressive and distinguished history as a prosecutor. she has prosecute d all sorts o cases. she has done a good job, but i have to point out she has intermixed her own political fortunes with this case in a way that i think is going to backfire significantly. >> because of her past statements? >> a couple things. first of all, sthhe's been thro off a piece of this case because she subpoenaed a republican candidate for office and hosted a fundraiser for their opponent. what were you thinking? second of ul a, she's used her own subpoenas in this case, she subpoenaed lindsey graham and recirculated a political cartoon making fun of lindsey graham as part of a political fundraising effort. she's made inappropriate public statements give ing her opinion that this is a criminal case, which the grand jury has not
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vote d on that yet. she gave her opinion about donald trump's criminal state of mind. all of this is bad forum by a prosecutor. she absolutely does no better and it's going to be a problem for her. >> before you go, because my favorite line of this piece is she said i'm not a good politician, but i'm a very good prosecutor. would any of that mean legally a problem for her if she bring this is or, or is it just optics? >> i disagree with her. she's a better prosecutor than politician. >> that's what she said. >> the problem is she has intermixed politics. she should know better as a prosecutor. legally, here's what happens. she's been removed from a piece of the case because of a political conflict of interest that she created. when this goes into the courts, count on donald trump arguing that she is improperly mixed her own politics and needs to be proved from the case. that's only because it was prematurely made. once the cases is brought, they
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will argue she has a conflict of interest and i don't know if those arguments will succeed, but she's created these problems for herself. >> that is a good line for a politician, by the way. >> it's a good line. thank you, appreciate it. this morning, a win for the biden administration in a federal a appeals court. they have allowed that asylum policy at the southern border that was rejected by a lower court and had to stay in place. the policy restricts migrants that passes through mexico from seeking asylum in the united states unless they sought it there. it would have ended on monday after that ruling from a district court judge. this new ruling from the appeals court allows time for the ninth circuit to consider all of it. happening overnight, two members of the tennessee three have officially won their reelection. state house democrats justin jones and gloria johnson interrupted house proceedings back in april. republicans voted to expel jones
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sglnchtsz top u.s. and european officials are concerned that vladimir putin is factoring in what happens in our 2024 election to how he proceeds in this warn war in ukraine. a source familiar with the says putin knows trump will help him and so do the ukrainians and our europeanen partners. we also have this polling that's shocking. it shows that only 45% of those surveyed say congress should authorize more funding to support ukraine's fight in
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russia. 50% say they should not. good morning. talk to us more about all of that. >> i think that there are legitimate questions a as to if poutin will be able to sustain this war for another 15 months militarily into november of 2024. but the concern among u.s. officials is that he's certainly going to try. he's eyeing that election, he's factoring it into his approach to the ukraine war with the bet that if president biden were to lose and the republican were to get into office, into the oval office, particularly president trump, that would dry down support for ukraine, which would benefit him. we should note that president trump has not clearly stated he would support ukraine. so that is a key factor that u.s. officials believe that poutin is looking at closely. this is not an intelligence assessment of where putin is in
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his thinking of all this. this is just what u.s. officials and european officials are talking about right now. and as you said earlier, there's a cnn poll out this morning showing that the majority of ans are opposed to additional funding for the war in ukraine. that's going to make this an even more contentious issue in washington, which will benefit putin, u.s. officials believe. >> especially coming out of the nato summit, u.s. officials were very pleased with how that ended, what the outcomes were from that. how does this not factor into planning for president biden and his team when they look forward, not just for the intelligence assessment, but where the american people are on fur furthering aid? >> i think it certainly does factor into their planning. when you talk to u.s. officials about this, they are not talking about it publicly that they are concerned that putin is looking at the 2024 elections. they are talking about it privately. and they are saying what this means, what the u.s. needs to continue providing support to
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ukraine now and the long-term support that we have heard u.s. officials really press on the need for over the course of the next year, five years, whatever it may be so ukraine has what it needs to continue fighting russia. >> appreciate the reporting. thank you. joining us is adam kinzinger, former member of the house committee that investigated the january 6th insurrection and a key voice in the party on foreign policy for a number of years. what's your reaction to this reporting? i feel like with you talk to administration officials behind the scenes, they feel like they are on a clock. sl it's their fault. it's a scary poll, first off, because what we're doing is actually funding ukraine so that american troops don't have to go fight. that's what americans are most concerned about. it's less about aid to foreign countries and how to prevent our
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boys from going overseas. that's how we're doing it now. the problem is not in donald trump, although he bears some blame because he's influencing the republican viewpoint, it's in the administration. the administration is not selling this to the american people. first off, for our allies overseas and for vladimir putin, i don't think he can last through the next presidential election. so i'm not too worried that like donald trump is going to come in and end the war in the middle of it. but this administration has got to be selling this to the american people. if you ask the average american v you heard the administration talk about what we're doing to make sure that the aid we're giving to ukraine is actually spent appropriately? nobody has heard it because i have never heard the administration show it. we have a very robust and intense program in ukraine to make sure every bit of aid we give to ukraine is used how it should be and not corrupted. second, have they explained how this aid comes, a significant amount of this aid is old stocks of weapons going to replace any way.
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we send that drawdown equipment over to ukraine, we put a value on that, but we're going to replace that stuff any way. that needs to be communicated to the american people. right now, they think we're writing a check and handing it over to be spent how they want. >> not long ago before phil wrote you off, that you were in congress and a republican, is this congress going to authorize the funding? >> i think so. and the reason i hesitate is i don't know how this congress is actually going to be in these spending bills. they barely got through the debt limit. i'm glad they did, but now they have to appropriate, and there's a massive disagreement on defense spending. any cut in defense and any l leveling is a cut because we all want solier pay to go up every year, so that cuts into what we
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can spend on future warfare. and inflation and everything else, we have to invest in new things. i don't know how congress gets through this moment. i do think they probably have maybe one more significant aid package in there for ukraine, so i think they should do this. >> can i pull back on this? i live in this discussion. but this is important to note. there's a timeline here. the end of the fiscal year is september 31st. law miccers have 12 bills they are spoezed to pass before then. they rarely do it in the last 40 years. certainly on a pathway to do that now. but you make a key point. if ukraine, what's been happening it's gone separately through emergency spending packages. what's the pathway for that? >> you want to tack this on to something else. this would have to be stand alone or tied to something else. tell people how tens of billions of dollars could get through a republican house. >> it definitely won't come through stand alone. i don't think you're going to
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get that passed. then you have to go through the senate and it's possible. particularly if there's a big emergency that happens in ukraine, probably more than likely, this goes through a continuing resolution of what's going to happen. this is a concern. >> you're going to get kicked offset. >> we get to september 31st, there's a good chance of a government shutdown. there's some people cheering for it if in the gop. >> we would be remissed not to end by talking to you about the indictment. so much of this work is really you guys pushed it forward with how hard you push ed the law, hw hard you pushed for documents in the january 6th committee. we learned new things in the indictment. what strikes you and where do you think this goes from here? >> there's two things that strike me in this. the acceptance of day vooi lens that you read about. there could be riots in the
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streets. and that was a little surprise ing to me so pep i predicted violence before the 6th. i thought i was the only one. and the other thing was the extent to which even during the violence on january 6th, they were still trying to lobby the senate in the house. >> into the evening with the phone calls to senators. >> what i hope people take from this, too, something that struck me in the committee, january 6th was a symptom. that violence that day, that was a symptom. the problems was the rot that led up to this. that's what the indictment is focused on. the president's actions prior to that day, that's the real rot in our democracy. we can sustain a day of violence. but we can't sustain a systemic corruption in the system. i hope that's what people take away from this. >> do you think people will take that away? >> i think eventually. i think probably when this trial happens, people are going to learn a lot more. i think that's going to continue to change.
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>> you tweeted you were interested in the new polling that shows how republicans feel, if he gets convicted. >> if the president gets convict ed, like 50% of republicans say they wouldn't vote for him again. this is to any senator that did not vote to remove trump. we voted to impeach him. mcconnell stands up and says there's a criminal system for this. but he's out of office. let's let him go home. that's what all these senators were saying. he's done. he's not going to run again. of course, he's going to run again. had removed him like the maimty of them wanted to in their hearts, the republican party would be fixed and we wouldn't be talking about this right now. >> appreciate it. there's a reenactment of a school shoot tag will bring gunfire to parkland, florida. it's part of a lawsuit against the officer who failed to stop it.
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six former law enforcement officers who called themselves the squad pleaded guilty to federal charges related to torturing go black men in mississippi. the u.s. attorney for the support district of the state announced the pleas last night. the six white officers are accused of entering a home in january and torturing the men for two hours. one of the officers shot one of the victims in the mouth. our nick valencia has been following all this, unbelievable. tell us what you know. >> the story to think this happened in 2023 and the former white officers tortured two black men and planned on getting away with it by covering up the evidence and lying. according to federal prosecutors, this was organized and premeditated. and covered up. all operating under the banner of the lu. and this federal complaint goes on to say that these former officers had a name for themselves. they called themselves ts good night squad because of their
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willingness to not report excessive force. speaking after these officers had entered into a guilty plea to federal charges, the department of justice officials called this a shameful betrayal of the oath of office. >> these defendants committed heinous acts of violence against handcuffed victims, who they terrorized under the color of law. they repeatedly tased them, tortured them, all under the authority of the badge, which they disgraced. >> during the incident, which lasted two hours, these men were repeatedly beaten. one of them was shot in the mouth during a mock execution. they were doused with milk, grease alcohol and told to shower off evidence of the abuse so officers could get their stories straight. listen to one of the men describe to cnn what he went
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through. >> they started beating me and tasing me. you can see the blood spots. i'm just like them. whether they are in uniform or not. >> these men have filed a lawsuit. the officers are facing varying sentences. some of them could spend life in prison when they are sentenced in november. >> nick, wow. we appreciate your reporting on this. >> you bet. a reenactment of a deadly school shooting will bring gunfire back to parkland, florida, all part of a lawsuit for the officer who is blamed for not stopping it. that's next. ♪ chevevy silverado has what it takes to do it all. with up to 1 13 camera views. and the z71 off-roadad package.
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in just a few hours a reenactment will take place inside the high school. ballistic experts will fire shots as part of a civil lawsuit against scott peterson, the then resource officer who remained
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outside as a shooter killed 17 people in 2018. the plaintiffs and a survivor, want to record the fire to show that peter son would have heard the shots and known where they were coming from. the defense team argued he didn't enter because he couldn't tell where the shots were coming due to echoes. peterson was found not guilty of criminal charges. before the reenact mment, a bipartisan congressional delegation will tour the building before it's demolished later this month. the building has been sealed since the massacre. the victims' blood still stain the floors and cards are strewn about. our next guest will lead that tour with a really colleague and he's a graduate of marjory stoneman douglas and a state representative at the time of the tragedy, which spurred him to push for antigun violence legislation. congressman, i appreciate your time. you want to start with you have been inside the school.
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you were one of the few people. a what should people expect when they walk in today? what are they going to see? >> first of all, thank you for having me. thanks for talking about this five years after the marjory stoneman douglas school shooting in the build ing right behind m, where i went to high school. what they are going to see is a unique experience, a horrific experience. the building behind us is a time capsule. other than the victims no longer being there, the building is exactly as it was on february 15th, the day after the shooting. so we're going to be talwalking through that building a bipartisan delegation with law enforcement, with folks in the school board and with family members. family members, some of them going into the building for the first time. so this is important. it's important for folks in congress, my colleagues to see what happens when a school shooting comes to your neighborhood, how it affects families.
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but it's going to be a very emotional day. >> you invited every member of congress to join you. democrats and republicans, this is a bipartisan delegation that will be with you today. you have done this before as well. the last time you did this, in the months after the most significant gun safety legislation in decades was enacted and sieped into law by president biden. what do you hope this leads to? >> today is about the visuals and walking with the parents and supporting them and supporting the community and the emotional experience. i'm not naive. i'm not expecting to out of building and start working on legislation. but the idea is to continue of the conversation. there's a lot we can do when it comes to school safety, gun violence prevention. there's not one thing we have to do. we have to find where we have common ground. that bill we passed the marjory stoneman douglas school safety act three weeks after the
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shooting in the florida legislature was a bipartisan piece of legislation. it did school safety, mental health, sros, it raised the age to 21 to boy a gun in florida. hundreds of millions of dollars for school safety around the state. it was a comprehensive piece of legislation. i don't know that d.c. is going to do that. but if we can continue to work on mitigation, one thing after the next, we can save a lot of lives. >> there will be family members of victims that will be touring or walking through the school today. i know you represent the district in the state house. you represent the district in congress. i assume you're in regular contact with many of these individuals. what do you hope they get from this experience? closure, clarity, something for the civil case? >> there's no closure. there's never closure. we don't move on. we move forward.
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these families visit their kids at a cemetery. empty rooms in their house, they didn't get a high school graduation. there's no weddings. there's no grand kids. there's no future. this is part of the experience. sglu but the parents and the students that were in this buildings that made it out, they may have dead caughted their lives to crisscrossed the country. they tryx to makev c sure other that's sending your kid to sdool. >> they have suffered more than 400 mass shoot pgs.
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any yier since 19d 99. do they feel like they are making a a difference. or does this feel like a task? >> and there's progress all the time. there's different laws being passed. there's more allies coming to the table. you see it as a rising issue in polling. but listen. we're not going to sofl this overnight. they recognize that. but they are going to continue. this is their cause. they do this in the memory of their kids. and they don't want other parents to have to go through what they have gone through. they don't want other parents that they don't know experience this. we need to make more progress. there's common ground where we can work together. so that we can save the kids in grocery store and a school and a movie theater and a mall or just regular gun violence that
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happens every day in some neighborhoods. too many kids are dieing from this. we have to figure out how to come together. >> i do want to ask before i let you go on a different topic. you mentioned your work in the state. and in washington, they included working with george zimmerman at their points. what's their perspective and how he's done up to this point? >> you look at that race for all the candidates, it's donald trump. it's only donald trump. it's super clear that that's the case. that's what voters want. according to the polling. so whether you're tim scott or r ron desantis. i don't know there's much they can do. donald trump every time he gets indicted his poll numbers go up. so right now that race is frozen. and so that's my assessment of where things are at. there's a debate coming up in
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august. that would have given the candidates a chance to contrast themselves with donald trump. but trump is not even coming. the idea that he's not going to be on stage for the first debate is the leading candidate is something i don't think we have seen before. so everything that's happening now across the aisle and the primaries is really a case of first impression. donald trump with a trim crown indictment is the leading candidate on the republican side for president. >> we're waiting to see about the debate stage with trump. i appreciate your time. i know this is a powerful and poignant day for you and the families. congressman, thank you. >> thank you. >> quite a day for them. that's for sure. we're minutes away from the labor releasing the july jobs report. we're going to tell you what it says and what it mean for the economy. a zoo in china struggling to convince the sun bears are bears. >> i never said it wasn't a
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web. ivan watts is live in hong kong. i was saying to the team, i thought we did this story three days ago. they are, like, ivan has more reporting on it. why is the world obsessed with this bear? >> reporter: it's a bear-y strange story, poppy. >> yes. >> reporter: yeah, yeah. the zoo had to deny that this bear that was filmed standing up was a person in a costume. and one of the perhaps silver linings to this may be environmentalists hope, it will wake people up to the fact that the world's smallest species of bear is on the endangered species list. >> chinese social media exploded with claims this animal was a human in a costume, they decided to grin and bear it. issuing a statement in the voice of the animal saying, i'm a sun
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bear. a message echoed by another zoo in the uk. have you seen that video? >> yes, i have seen that video, and i am very, very convinced, 100% sure that it is a sun bear. >> reporter: he is a biologist and founder. bornean sun bear conservation center. i think we can say that's a bear, not a human in a costume? >> yes, that is a bear. >> reporter: this forest enclosure in malaysia shows 44 rescued sun bear. >> it looks similar to people when they stand up. >> reporter: sun bears are an endangered species. their tropical forest habitat in southeast asia is shrinking. what does the future look for
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the sun bear as a species in the wild right now? >> the forest is not big now. if hunting and poaching still continue, the future is very bleak for the sun bear because they need much forest in order to survive. >> reporter: he says there is an illegal market for sun bear claws, teeth, and organs used for that additional asian medicine. now the chinese viral video is giving the world's smallest bear a moment in the sun. in recent days, attendance surged 30% at the zoo. it doesn't look human at all when you see it in person, this man says. something to bear in mind. the next time you're sent a viral video. so, no more dad jokes here. the head of the zoo in question, he says that in a single day they had more than 20,000 visitors attributing it to this
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kind of controversy. meanwhile, the head of the sun bear coansvation center, he is hoping that people in southeast asia will wake up and governments as well to protect what's left of the sun bear's shrinking natural habitat. >> that's the good that could come from this controversy, is exactly to that point. ivan, thank you very much. >> i should note -- >> the control room said we don't have time. >> i know. this is what i did, reading about it after seeing the video. my wife texted. it's a human and then after ivan's piece said, no, wait, it's a bear. >> now we all need to contribute to preserving them. >> well, let's not get -- okay. >> i am the generous one here. moving on, 38 house democrats are pushing for the former president's federal trial to be televised.
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