the most-decorated gymnast of all-time is back. simone biles is set to compete at the u.s. classic in illinois tomorrow. this is her first competition in two years after she withdrew from the tokyo olympics citing the immense pressure and her own concerns about her mental health. at the time, biles said she suffered from the twisties, a mental block essentially that causes gymnasts to lose track of their position midair. with this event tomorrow, she is hoping to qualify for the national championships and take her first step toward the olympics in 2024, and of course we are all wishing her the best of luck. thank you so much for joining us on what was an incredibly busy newsroom. "cnn primetime with laura coates" starts right now. >> what was so busy about it? was there big news this week? i can't tell. >> i took a few trains this week, i'll say that back and forth from new york to d.c. >> a few people got thrown under a bus. we'll talk about what that means. i'm laura coates, thank you for joining me.

here's the big question of the evening, everyone. did donald trump just perhaps violate the conditions of his release? the former president threatening retaliation just 24 hours after, yes, his third indictment. what a judge warned him against, intimidating or tampering with witnesses. take a look. on social media, he was writing, quote, if you go after me, i'm coming after you. kind of a way of saying, don't come for me till i send for you, apparently. we'll talk about that with our law expert who testified at one of his impeachment hearings. trump also railed against the charges against him at an event in alabama just a short time ago. >> every one of these many fake charges filed against me by the corrupt biden doj could have been filed 2 1/2 years ago. they didn't want to do it 2 1/2 years ago. they wanted to wait, and they did wait.

they waited right until the middle of an election. they waited until i became the dominant force in the polls. they want to interfere in my campaign. they want to interfere in the leaks. they commonly use tactics in third world countries -- >> this all comes as his lawyer and allies continue to flow possible defenses in the election interference case. he's now asking the supreme court to intervene. tonight, cnn anchor and chief domestic correspondent jim acosta who by the way will be here at 11:00 tonight. i'm excited to see you this evening as well. jim, we look to you. you have so much experience, having followed this man. i don't know if you like -- >> too much. >> he is floating this idea, as you have seen, look, they're coming after me. but they really want to get to you. and i'm standing in between. >> yeah. >> we've heard this a lot. why does this have legs? >> yeah, he's been saying this

for months. i am your retribution. they're coming after me, i'm just standing in the way of them coming after you. that kind of thing. you know, honestly, i think he's doing this because what other choice does he have? but to cast all of these legal troubles as a plot against the rest of the country? he's been a fan of spinning these kinds of lies and conspiracy theories ever since he started running for president way back in 2015. he was talking in very threatening terms about jack smith, the special counsel, calling him deranged, that sort of thing. what he's going to do throughout this campaign with these cases all pending and these indictments pending is he's going to dance right up to the line. he's going to go over it from time to time. >> or a lot of the time. >> going after the judge, the lawyers, the prosecutors, democrats on capitol hill, his political opponents inside the republican party. he's going to continue to play this hand. because it's the hand that he's

always played. i've covered him for years now. and going back all the way to the 2016 campaign, he has a talent for creating this climate, this environment where it feels like political violence could break out any moment. he wants the country frightened, in a state of almost political terror, all of the time, 24 hours a day, seven day a week. because that is the kind of environment he tends to do well in. and so i don't suspect that he's going to change this way of behaving at all. he's going to try to exploit this. i was talking to a trump adviser earlier today who said they believe wholeheartedly that they can delay these day cases until after the election so they don't have to worry about winning the republican party contest. they think they've got the nomination wrapped up. in the general election battle between donald trump and joe biden, as we saw in 2016, all it takes is for donald trump to get a little bit of luck and for his democratic opponent to have a

little bit of bad luck, like that comey letter 11 days before the 2016 election, and he has a chance of getting back in there. >> think about it. what is the famous line in "game of thrones"? chaos is a ladder. he's not the first politician to say, if there's enough pot-stirring, enough going on here, perhaps the periphery, anyone who's in it will be lost in all of this. >> exactly. >> the polling does hold him quite strong. he's even had some say the audacity to say, look, i just need one more indictment and then i've got a straight flush. a fourth indictment. he believes it's going to be an additional feather in his cap. i remember so well when you were at so many of his rallies. we could tell. in front of the cameras people who were vicious. behind the cameras they couldn't wait to get a picture with you. there was this duality that was going on, that you see mirrored in the republican party of his allies today. publicly they say one thing, privately something else. is there a moment that you're

seeing reporting-wise, politically, where maybe the two will meet? the gloves come off? >> i really think what you see is what you get. donald trump is crazy like a fox. and he is going to continue to push the envelope, do everything but violate the very specific orders of this federal judge that were handed out in his arraignment yesterday. he may even violate them to some extent. he is going to dare and tempt any judge overseeing any of these cases to come after him and lock him up during these proceedings. they are starting to see this inside of trump world as a winning hand. a fourth indictment might be four aces as far as they're concerned at this point. and to some extent, and this is not meant as a criticism of the justice department or of the attorney general, merrick garland, but by waiting as long as they did, they did sort of welcome this possibility that donald trump could say, hey, wait a minute, you're doing this because we're right in the middle of a campaign.

obviously the folks who will defend the justice department and the attorney general will say, no, it just took this long to get to this point. well, it took too long in that it came right in the middle of this campaign process. and of course, we may not see indictments brought to a trial until well into the republican primaries of the next year. and who knows what happens after that? the other big question is what does the republican party do with all of this? i don't think anybody's contemplated, what does the gop do if donald trump christmas how tried and convicted and sentenced to jail right before the republican convention next year? or right after the republican convention next year? >> the constitution doesn't say he can't. >> that's right. what are they going to do about that? i don't think they've fully thought this through. while there's a lot of doomsday scenarios and gloom and doom about trump could get back in the white house, there's a lot of gloom and doom on the republican side of the aisle, too. i don't think they've fully thought through how this could really blow up in their faces next year. >> stay tuned for the tumbleweed

that's getting ready to go down the wild, wild west yet again. we're in uncharted territory yet again. >> here we are. >> except this is now the third and we're all accustomed to the indictment cycle at this point. jim acosta, stick around. we'll see him at 11:00 as well. i want to unpack more of what we're talking about here. michael gerhart, a law professor at the university of north carolina. it's nice to see you, my friend. i can almost hear you thinking right now when it comes to any conversation about the notion of witness intimidation, voting rights, accident ra elevation, all these aspects swirling around the president, former president of the united states. tonight, trump is saying that they could have charged him right after leaving office. but putting aside that the documents didn't become an issue until after he left office, but those are minor details. that's actually not how investigations work. tell me about the timeline that he is -- the doj is often

criticized for? do you see that timeline as problem mat nick. >> i don't see that timeline as problematic. and i see it that way for the following reason. that we've got two things going on right now. one is all about politics. one is obviously the campaigning. what trump is doing is providing all this political rhetoric, and he's appealing to his base. but the other thing that should be going on is how the legal system works. and politics on the one hand moves much faster than the legal process works on the other. the thing about courts and a prosecutor is they take time to build their case. they follow the evidence. jack smith has done that. it takes awhile. but meanwhile, trump can occupy that space by making it sound as if, oh, they're just dragging their heels. no, they're doing their job. this is what a professional prosecutor does. it takes time to build a case. then to present it. the political world is going to be moving much faster.

so it can sort of try and deflect people's attention from what's going on in the legal world. >> i mean, it's called due process. not due quickness. right? democracy is not really known for its expedience, oftentimes. but i remind people, it's not that jack smith was the special counsel on, say, january 7th, right? >> that's right. >> he has just recently, relatively speaking, come into this position. they've had a lot of prosecutions of people who entered into the capitol. they have not been dragging their heels with respect to that. case in point this judge, like other judges, has a lot of experience now with conversations surrounding the sentencing of january 6th insurrectionists and beyond. also, this is breaking news we're just getting in. we now have word that the special counsel has now cited trump's truth social post tonight. i was getting ready, michael, to ask you about this very truth social post that says, if you go

after me, i'm coming after you. and i was going to ask you, is this problematic in the eyes of the prosecution? well, tonight, they are now asking for a protective order. that's what we know at least right now. tell me, when you saw this post, what was your first reaction? >> my first reaction is, trump just stepped over a line again. in other words, trump just makes it a business of trying not just to push boundaries but ignore them. even though he's been counseled by numerous people as well as the judge not to threaten, not to use his rhetoric to sort of go after people, including the prosecutor -- what does trump do? he immediately does that. that's a political move that trump just made. that makes him popular with the base. on the legal side, he just broke another law. >> almost reminds me, there will be arguments made. you see little kids with their siblings. "i'm not touching you." they're close to your face, but "i'm not touching you." maybe that's my own kids in my

household. someone looking at that same post would say, it's not specific, he didn't name a particular witness, he didn't threaten a particular named person, the judge's name is not in there, any of the witnesses who might be in there, even the unnamed coconspirators who have not yet been indicted visibly. is there argument to be made that it's so vague that a protective order would essentially lead to the next talking point that says, oh, i can't say anything? >> i don't think this statement that he's just gotten in trouble for is vague. it served its political purpose. it tried to -- it made him look powerful, he got to sort of look like the boss. but legally he's just got himself in trouble again. and i think one thing to sort of keep in mind is that trump is having trouble trying to maintain balance in both the political world and the legal world. the more heated it gets in the the political world, the worse trouble he's going to get in the legal world. right now, trump has a history

of intimidating witnesses. he has a history of inviting violence. the thing to do is, as you know, if you're trying to figure out if somebody's posing a danger, you infer from the circumstances and from the language what may be that person's purpose or what's the effect of what they're doing? and that's what we can do with donald trump. we can infer from that language, oh, he's trying to heat up the crowd. hopefully producing another riot. at the same time, we can infer from that language, he's not acting in good faith. that's not a statement of somebody that's going to comply with the law, it's somebody who's going to operate according to the old west and come after them. >> i hear also in my prosecutorial brain, it's churning right now. i'm saying, you know what, every word has to be precise in the way that you present it to the court. i have used the word witness, gut another word that could be used, codefendant. the other words that could be used here, given the allegations, at least in the

superseding indictment involving the mar-a-lago documents. again, this is not necessarily a case-specific truth social post. it could be broad in a number of realms. he has at least three indicts. it could be viewed by a special counsel as a warning to those who might be incentivized or willing to testify. whether they are yet unnamed or somebody who shares a portion of a caption. there's a lot to unpack here. i bet this judge is already on notice. i suspect knowing that this judge has done a lot, was already having those sort of judge spidey senses. michael ger hat, thank you so much. everyone, another story. the teams that are investigating the gilgo beach serial killer have identified another victim. i'll speak live with the daughter of another famous american serial killer. plus, they have the nerve to call themselves the goon squad. what they were and are, are

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a new victim has now been identified. police say that 34-year-old escort karen burgata is the victim known as "fire island jane doe" who went missing back in 1996. authorities have not yet linked alleged killer rex heuermann to her death. he has been charged with first-degree murder in the aths of three women, and he is the prime suspect in this disappearance and death of another but has not yet been charged with that homicide. i want to bring in dr. jen carson who is a trauma expert and the daughter of one of the san francisco witch killers. her father was convicted of three murders in san francisco in the early 1980s. he and his wife claimed they believed they were supposed to kill witches. dr. jen carson, thank you so much for being here today. i wonder just off the bat, when you hear about cases like this and what the families are coming

home to when the allegations arise for someone like rex heuermann and beyond, do you recall what it felt like for you? what are your emotions? >> yeah, so you know, first and foremost, my heart goes out to the five known gilgo victims. they had parents. they had children. siblings. but my heart also hurts for the family of rex heuermann. after i learned that my father was a suspect in 12 homicides, confessed to three, also a plot to kill president reagan, i was a small child but i found out as a small child. and i -- it shattered my self concept. i feet like i was satan's spawn or the bad seed or that i somehow was bad.

and i survived several decades of suicidal thoughts and several days of life-threatening suicidal behaviors. but the good news is i now work in suicide prevention, and i model recovery to others and encourage everyone to get help, which anyone listening c can, 24/7, by calling 988. >> it must have informed your decision and your calling to which you now obviously are a trauma expert in this space. i wonder, one of the allegations that is always going to come up -- people who are following this story and are going to be asking their questions, as either armchair directors and detectives, or those who are in the court of public opinion like we often are in -- they're going to ask questions about what the wife or children could have possibly known. when you hear that question being raised, did you have any idea whether they would have known anything, what would you

say to anyone who thinks that they must and assumed they have known something? >> yeah, it's so interesting. the spectators are increasingly trying to predict plot twists. and trying to identify an origin story. and in reality, there was a gilgo beach task force with brilliant members of law enforcement working on this. dozens and dozens of experts. you know, if those people could not identify this human predator, this human monster, for decades, and he was so sophisticated at eraiding them in this era of modern technology, then of course he could deceive his family. of course he could. >> a really important point i think a lot of people haven't really considered in the same way as you would have. i want to play the wife's attorney did speak with cnn

tonight. he was asked if he thought the police would question her, and also if she would cooperate with police. listen to what he had to say. >> at this point, i don't think she's a suspect because they make clear, even the d.a., they ruled her out of being an accomplice or any accomplices on behalf of rex. they stated on numerous occasions she was out of the jurisdiction, either out of the country or on vacation when the alleged murders took place. i think they ruled her out up front. >> i would note also, she has now filed for divorce, by the way. although she is not currently a suspect, would you be surprised if officials took a closer look at her at this moment in time? >> no, of course. you know, in any missing persons case or murder case, they always look close to home. and, you know, so of course they will look at her. but what is known now is it appears that this was occurring

when she was away. and she stated verbally in an interview with my friend, matt johnson of court tv, that she was taking it moment by moment. and she goes, not hour by hour, moment by moment. you hear the fatigue and sorrow in her voice. until there's any indication that this woman is involved, everyone needs to give her a little bit of space. because she is going through an experience that is essentially everyone's worst nightmare, that the stranger beside them, right? that there was a wolf in sheep's clothing laying next to them in the bed. this is horrific. and so i hope that we can give her a little bit of both empathy and sympathy. >> dr. jen carson, thank you so

much for your unique perspective in particular. thank you. for nearly two hours, for almost two hours, two black men were tortured and terrorized by six white officers who called themselves the goon squad. those men are going to join me next as we take you inside the home where it happened and the officers making now stunning admissions. your wyndham is waiting... to help you check things off your bucket list...

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brutality in rankin county, mississippi. six white now-former law enforcement officers -- frankly, i have a hard time saying those words together with a straight face -- they called themselves the goon squad. they pleaded guilty to charges related to the torture of two black men. in just a moment i'll speak to the victims and their attorney. first, i want to explain to you a little bit about what we know has happened. back in january, deputies responded to a complaint about

two black men staying at a house in braxson, mississippi. they entered the home and for the next two hours, they beat, assaulted, and sexually abused the men, even shooting one of the victims in the mouth. the u.s. attorney for the southern district of mississippi saying the former officers became the criminals that they swore to protect people from. >> not only did they brazenly commit these acts, but after inflicting serious bodily injury by firing a shot through one of the victims' mouths, they left him lying in a pool of blood. gathered on the porch of the house to discuss how to cover it up. >> joining me now are eddie

parker and michael jenkins, victims of the former officers. and their attorney, malik shebaz. gentlemen, i can't tell you how much even knowing what happened, even a sliver of what happened, has created such a sense of pain and deep sadness for anyone who hears about it. you almost wish that this story was a fiction or a movie. but it's real life, and it happened. i am wondering, when you are even sitting here today and having to relive, having to explain, having to discuss, what does that even feel like? knowing this never should have happened? >> it's almost surreal. it's almost -- it's been a long time coming. so long coming, waiting on this outcome, you know, for

everything that we said happened. everything that we felt happen. it's still a surreal feeling. we dream -- a dream we still dream about. >> you must have trouble in the aftermath. there's been physical harm? >> yes. >> you were shot in the mouth, michael. >> yes, ma'am. >> you are still experiencing the physical injury, the pain, the emotional, the mental repercussions of all this. how are you dealing with any of this? >> one second at a time, one day at a time. the lord, prayer. you know, just -- >> can i -- can you show me where the injury happened? you were shot, it went through your mouth, in the side of your head. it came out and into the neck. >> yes, ma'am. i was -- he was standing over here, i was sideways like this, looking up at him like this.

it comes out the back of my head, i probably would have been dead if i wouldn't have been looking at him right there. >> you know, and these are police officers we're talking about who have now pled. even the sheriff apologized to you both. i can't imagine what the word sorry could do, but did it do anything for you? >> i don't feel it done anything for me. i mean, for it being so long, you know, sorry for sitting and waiting for months and months, thinking that i was going to be -- it was going to be anything different from what we said. do you believe your police officers? when they went in and, you know, started this all, you know, from whatever, you know. you believe they were going to go do their job? you believe they was going to

come and damn near murder someone? >> they gave them the benefit of the doubt. >> yes. >> did not extend one to you? >> no. it really doesn't mean too much to me. >> let me ask you, so we're clear, this happened in january. >> yes. >> and these officers have just now pleaded guilty. >> yes. >> how long did it take for the officers to even investigate? they were sitting on the porch, patrolling, it seemed, describing -- thinking how to cover this all up. how long did it take before the officers who were not the ones involved charged them or believed these two men? >> it only comes after the force of our legal pressure, the force of community pressure, and the willingness of the united states department of justice under the leadership of its civil rights division, under the leadership of kristen clarke, to bring about any apology from brian bailey, the sheriff, who is responsible for these -- for

this ordeal of torture. this horrendous ordeal of torture, which is the worst police incident that we ever know of in united states history. it comes because brian bailey condoned their actions over the years. he ratified their actions. and rankin county has a pattern and practice, a custom of beating people, excessive force used, and killing persons. and that's how they got so bold as to waterboard, sexually assault, tase these men, beat them all while handcuffed, and they never were resisting at any point. this comes because the sheriff's department nurtured this environment and allowed it to exist. and that's how they got so bold. so that's what really happened. >> i mean, when you just hear about the facts, even if you hear a sliver, and i recognize that in the time we have together, i couldn't begin to scratch the surface as to this

90 minutes, two hours of torture and inhumane treatment that you had to be subjected to. you don't do this for the first time. this is not the moment of somebody just being bold today and they wake up and do this. you're sitting here, people who are watching, in this studio there's cameras all around. there's different television screens. people are able to see from different angles what the audience is seeing. we're actually at one point looking at those officers walking freely, of course, but walking. and you see their faces. what does that feel like to see them again? >> a little bit of fear mixed with joy. you're happy that, you know, finally they're getting their walk of shame. you know, but also, you know, in the same, it's the fear of knowing that they had the chance to do that for the past seven months, walk freely.

you know, not an inkling in their thoughts, thinking about us what we're going through. i stayed at the house since that duration of time. every day was a struggle. it still is. i mean, it was -- it's nowhere near what we've been through what we still have to go through. >> michael, how about you? >> it's been a struggle. if i had to see them again, i would probably just start praying. i'd probably be scared out of my body to see them again. >> really? >> yeah. >> what they did has created that lasting fear and intimidation? >> yes. >> this -- go ahead. >> we're in a his toric moment. never in the history of mississippi have white law enforcement officers been held accountable to this degree where

they're going to prison for harming blacks or african americans. this has never happened in mississippi out of all the years of mississippi violence. >> wow. >> so this is a watershed moment in justice. and it's deserved for the horrific nature of the crimes that have been committed. >> gentlemen, i am honored to meet both of you. i'm sorry it's for this occasion. but thank god you did not remain silent. >> yes, ma'am. >> that this story is being told. and i cannot help but wonder, are there other gentlemen who had this experience? thank you for sharing it. >> yes, ma'am. >> and this should never have been. >> no, ma'am. >> thank you. >> i only can wish you peace. >> and justice as we move forward, yes, ma'am. >> i can't look at this in a vacuum. a week and a half ago, president biden was talking about a

national park foreemmett till, right? >> yeah. >> people keep thinking about this buying historical, that this is in the past, the rear-view mirror. the abuse and the blatant violation of the humanity of black people in mississippi, let alone in parts of this country. thank you for sharing today. >> thank you. >> yes, ma'am. >> eddie parker, michael jenkins, malik shebaz. up ahead, there's more on our breaking news. the special counsel tonight alerting the judge to an online post from donald trump in which he is vowing retribution. john deal is going to join us. also just in, there is a development in the standoff over an ap high school course in florida. .. ...so you can deliver more value to your customers. fast. reliable. perfecectly orchestrated. the united states poststal service. for your most brilliant smile, crest has you covered. ♪

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this just in. the florida board of education is out with a letter tonight

saying that an advanced placement psychology class will be offered in florida high schools. this comes after the college board issued a warning where they encouraged florida schools not to offer ap psychology. that's because the course includes lessons on sexual orientation and gender identity. lessons that apparently could violate the present florida law. the college board said without those lessons, the ap psych course would not meet college requirements. joining me is dr. robert john hubble jr., an ap psychology teacher in florida. dr. hubble, thank you for being here. we are following the twists and turns of all the different nuances and what is allowed, what is not allowed in florida. for many students, they are weeks away from school beginning. some schools inderstand are already back in session. but here is what the florida board of education is saying tonight. i'm going to read this. quote, the department believes

that ap psychology can be taught in its entirety in a manner that is age and developmentally appropriate and the course remains listed in our course catalog. so do you think they got assurances that the course does not violate the law, and that's why they're saying this? >> honestly, no. i think what is actually happening is the department of education is trying to cover their own butts because there are a lot of people angry that their child is not going to receive an ap credit if they were to be enrolled in ap psychology. although the department of education has said the course can be taught in its entirety to kind of sweep it under the rug, there are still laws that were recently put into place that any discussion on sexual orientation or gender identity in grades k-12 is not allowed, it is against the law. and college board has said they will not validate any ap

curriculum, ap psychology, because those two topics are not allowed to be talked about. even if this school were to say it's ap psychology, college board would not deem it an ap course on any college transcript. >> just thinking about having teachers and administrators trying to figure out in realtime, if i do this, am i going to violate the law? it's more of a conflict with lawyers than it as conversation among students. the pedagogy aspec months able to be the focus. college board respondi tonight saying, quote, we hope now that florida teachers will be able to teach the full course, including content on gender and sexual orientation without fear of punishment in the upcoming school year. i have an inkling that you don't think that this issue is now over, even in spite of that statement? >> correct. i don't think this is over. i think the department of education is just trying to cover themselves up because they

know that there are a lot of angry parents. 30,000 kids were supposed to take the ap psychology exam. back to your statement earlier about we start school in weeks. we start in my district on thursday, august 10th. we are scrambling to figure out some type of plan as an educator, what am i going to do with my students? it's disheartening to see the department of education try and use a quick fix when college board has laid out very clearly that unless the content can be taught in its entirety, including gender identity and sexual orientation, that the class just will not register as an ap psychology class on any transcript if it's taught in the state of florida. >> this be clear, this is the first time this course has been offered with this different curriculum involved? >> no. this curriculum has been in state for over 30 years. this has never been an issue, never been a concern. i've taught this class, this would be my eighth year teaching the class, never had a concern about teaching these topics.

it's not something that's ever been an issue until recently with the new laws that prohibit discussions on gender identity and sexual orientation. originally was toward kindergarten through third grade. as of a few weeks ago it's k-12, you can't talk about those topics, where it violates the ap standards. >> 30 years. now all of a sudden. doctor, thank you for joining us. good luck to you. >> thank you for having me. from 30 years to somebody who is known as really once in a lifetime in the caliber of athletes. simone biles making her big return to gymnastics now two years after stepping away. i'll talk with olympic gold medalist that is yeah liukin who will discuss how bias has changed the sport and the conversation on mental health.

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heart leaps out every single cartwheel. but let me tell you it's been two years since we saw simone biles in a competition. what are you going to be watching for? >> you know, i actually watched a few clips from training that happened earlier today and it was as if no time has passed. and not even no time has passed but she's gotten even better, even stronger, and consistent. and i think that is the most impressive part. because especially in a sport like gymnastics typically when you age, you don't get better especially on the woman's side. it's so incredible to be able to see that, and i think she's setting it bar so high for so many other athletes. and for them to be able to watch her, you know, continue going even after a certain age or a certain amount of success, like she truly loves the sport, and i think it's really, really incredible to watch. >> speak of setting the bar, you

have praised simone for prioritizing mental health and of course being strong enough, confident enough in that moment even though it felt like all eyes were on her to prioritize her safety knowing how dangerous the sport can be, knowing the skill that is required. how has she changed the conversation around mental health among even the most elite athletes? >> well, you know, what i think that she's done obviously at the olympics that she's continued to do is she has really reminded everybody that athletes, we're human. and i think when you watch, you know, somebody like simone on the olympic stage and she's doing incredible things with such ease and everything looks so easy, and that's the point. that's what makes a good gymnast, but at the end of the day we are humans. and we're not robots, we're not machines. and i think both physically

whether it's injuries or whatever it may be and mentally, i think that is so important she was able to really think about herself first and her mental health because once again she is showing this generation that you have the rest of your life to live, and that's something that my dad who was my coach and olympian himself instilled ipme that gymnastics is going to be short portion of your life so always think long-term. that doesn't mean give up or anything, but let's think about the future as well as gymnastics and the next competition. >> and really what an important point thinking about that especially i hear so often this phrase and the praise mental toughness when we're talking about an athlete and the laser focus, but i think now having these conversations expand to acknowledge what mental toughness really means and the strength to be able to prioritize one's mental health to see and have the respect you just brought, and i'm so excited for this weekend to see simone biles and to have met you. thank you so much. >> thank you so much for having

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