tonight, an alarming discovery inside a passenger jet. so, crews of the biggest airport in the world, dubai international, discover a bear that managed to escape from its crate in the jet's cargo hold. you can see a man reaching his hand in in the plane to try to calm a bear. while at first this could seem like a light-hearted story, it's far from it. it's quite alarming. the bear was headed for iraq and the prime minister has ordered an investigation because many of baghdad's wealthy are now hoarding wild animals and it is common for those animals to be grossly abused. baghdad police is calling on people to call if they see animals loose on the street. animals loose on the street. "ac 360" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight on "360" security tightening for judge tanya

chutkan, as the former president rants about her online. chris christie joins me live. also tonight, details on the plot ukraine says it foiled to assassinate its president, volodymyr zelenskyy. and in oakland, california, burglary, theft, assaults are rising so quickly some community members are pushing for a state of emergency. good evening. thanks for joining us. when "360" signed off friday night, the former president had posted earlier that day what appeared to be a veiled threat on his social network. if you go after me, he wrote, i'm coming af you. he's posted attacks on the special counsel, his former vice president and key witness against him, mike pence, and the judge overseeing the conspiracy trial. today we observed additional security measures around judge tanya chutkan. the u.s. marshal service is not commenting on it. we've also learned deputies spent part of the day discussing security plans for her. the former president has said he wants her off the trial, which

he also wants move frd washington. no sign that either of that is happening. late today trump lawyers filed their apply to jack smith's application for a protective order laying out rules for the evidence it turns over n. it, smith cited friday's apparent threat. today's filing seeks fewer restrictions. police commissioner bernie carry rack spoke with the team. he worked closely with mayor giuliani, who is one of six coconspirators cited in the indictment. we've learned geoff duncan was subpoenaed to testify before fani willis' georgia grand jury, which could indict the former president in the coming days. none of which, polling shows, appears to be costing him ground against his opponents. one of them finally acknowledged the fact about the election, but not on the first try. >> whoever puts their hand on the bible on january 20th every four years is the winner.

>> but respectfully, you did not clearly answer that question. and if you can't give a yes or no -- >> because -- >> -- on whether or not trump lost, then how -- >> of course he lost. >> trump lost the 2020 election? >> of course. >> okay. >> and joe biden is the president. >> joining us now, another republican presidential contender, new jersey governor chris christie. what do you make of desantis' response there? >> i still don't think he answered it. right. he lost. well, we all know that as a matter of law, he lost the election, right? the deeper question and the one that i think he's dodging is, do you believe it was a full and fair election? that's really the question. and with respect to the interviewer, and i think she let him off the hook. in the end, did he lose? of course he lost. and i believe he lost because he lost in a full and fair election. >> there's a lot of republicans -- i think a majority of republicans -- do not believe it was a free and fair election. >> i think that shows you the impact that donald trump has had on a lot of people.

and that impact started on election night, anderson. when he came out there that night at 2:30 in the morning and said, you know, we won the election, it's being stolen, people assume that the president of the united states knows things they don't know. and if you're also inclined to be supportive, you want to give him the benefit of the doubt. and that stuff has just seeped in. he has said a number of times to me personally and i've heard him say to others, you say something enough times, it becomes true. that is clearly his philosophy on everything he is doing right now to american people. >> i know in your book, you wrote about that moment being the key moment for you. we see the former president behaving, the rhetoric against the judge, and even mike pence. is this just free speech or more? >> i think the judge will decide that ultimately. to me, though, there are limits on free speech. this is the classic, you can't yell fire in a crowded theater. there are limits on free speech. by the way, when you're a criminal defendant out on

bail -- let's focus on that. he is now out on bail in three different jurisdictions, new york, florida, and washington, d.c. we have a front runner in this race who's out on bail in three jurisdictions. >> it's pretty incredible. >> what happens, though, when you're let out is that there are restrictions placed on you for you to stay out. and one of the restrictions that was placed on him was no contact or intimidation of potential witnesses. >> he's saying, if you go after me, i'm coming after you. his lawyers are saying that post was generalized political speech, not directed at anyone. >> of course that's what we're going to say. what they feel like saying is, oh, my god, i can't believe he did that again. privately, the lawyers want to jump out the window having to defend some of this stuff. here's the bottom line on it is that let's put aside if it's legal or illegal for a second. is this the kind of conduct that the republican party or the american people want for someone

who's going to be president? to send out tweets or posts, whatever they are that he sends on truth social saying this kind of stuff, threatening people, trying to intimidate mike pence, trying to intimidate the judge. you know, mike pence, as we know, he just falls in the line of rex tillerson and jeff sessions and bill barr and all these folks who were the best people ever when he hired them. >> right. >> and then as soon as they say something -- >> and extraordinarily loyal also to him. >> yes. and as soon as they disagree with him, then they become the worst people on earth. the things he wrote about mike pence. look, i'm running against mike. i want to beat him and become the republican nominee, but he doesn't deserve that. he doesn't deserve those comments. >> the former president's lawyer, john lor row, is defending the actions. he says a technical violation of the constitution is not a violation of criminal law. does that make sense to you? >> you know, no. and he admits that the president

violated his oath. think about that. the president of the united states promises to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution of the united states. his own lawyer has admitted he violated the constitution. >> i want to play something he told laura ingram on fox last week. >> what president trump said is, let's go with option d. let's just halt. let's just pause the voting and allow the state legislatures to take one last look and make a determination as to whether or not the elections were handled fairly. that's constitutional law. that's not an issue of criminal activity. >> did he admit the president committed a crime? because the president is charged with corrupt obstruction of an official proceeding. >> right. he did. and let me say what else he did. you know, he's opposite of what the evidence is. mike pence has been very clear about this.

he said the president didn't ask him to halt or pause. he said that he was asked by the president to reverse it. >> right. >> to reverse the result. and that's what mike pence is going to testify to. i suspect that's what he's already testified to in the grand jury. we don't know for sure because those matters are secret. but i suspect he doesn't say anything different to grand jury. >> do you think mark meadows is going to testify? >> i've already said i think mark meadows is a cooperating witness. running into coffee shops away from the press. >> and he's disappeared in the indictment. he's referenced once or twice. >> when you didn't see mark meadows as an un-indicted coconspirator and you see no mention of him at all -- >> how devastating do you think his testimony could be? >> it could be the worst testimony outside the family members. mark meadows was with him constantly. >> and involved in all of it, in georgia, in the electors. >> he was a very involved chief of staff, in my experience. he made sure he was in every

meeting and every conversation. and we remember there are hundreds of text messages that he turned over to the special counsel that he kept. >> and many more that he kept. the former president saying he's going to ask the judge to be reassigned or recused, says he can't get a fair trial in d.c. is that any of that legitimate? >> they're not going to move the trial. he's saying because he was appointed by obama and she's been tough on january 6th defendants that that makes her biased. he's going to have to show something better than that to get a judge disqualified. and to get the venue moved -- the argument is, i don't like the jury pool so i'm going to get the venue moved. that's not a basis for moving venue. >> do you think there should be cameras in the court in this? >> i've always thought there should be cameras in federal court. i thought that if we have state court, i understand that there are times when people are performing for the cameras. but i think for the american people to see -- because i think, anderson, the justice

system works extraordinarily well in this country. and i think the more we take the veil away from it on the federal side as well and people get to see the rights of defendants being acquitted, juries really considering all the evidence, deliberating, and then ultimately a verdict being rendered, i think that gives more confidence in the system, not less. >> in terms, i don't know if you saw former attorney general bill barr told kaitlan collins last week, the doj case is legitimate, quote, the former president should not be anywhere near the oval office. he didn't rule out voting for the former president in a one-on-one matchup against president biden. does that make sense to you? >> well -- >> i understand he's a republican. >> not entirely. i think this is something people have been avoiding. as you know, a lot of people -- some were in the race, some were outside the race -- have been talking about this. i think part of it is because there's real serious discontent with president biden, concerns about his age and his health and all the rest of that. i think that's why some people do it that way.

but i do think that bill barr, to be fair to him, has been as clear as any former member of his cabinet on the things that he said about the president, how the president conducted himself. >> his critique has been deaf stating. >> yes. i think if bill wants to take that position, i think we need to give him a pass on that one because in the end he has put forward substantive facts as to why donald trump shouldn't be president again. >> this new poll, 91% of maga republicans think the indictments and investigation against trump are trying to stop his campaign. the argument you have been making consistently and especially now, are you worried that it's not -- i mean, how do you make traction with those voters? >> because the argument of those voters is these are two separate questions. people are discontent with what they've seen, anderson, out of doj. and i can't say i blame them in terms of what happened with hillary clinton -- or rather did not happen -- and what they see

now with the hunter biden plea being rejected, seemingly because the judge thought it was an unfair plea deal that favored hunter biden. if you're a republican, you say to yourself, this looks fishy. so, i think that's where those numbers come from. the separate question is, regardless of that, regardless if you think that his prosecutions are politically motivated or not, there's very little argument about the conduct, the underlying conduct that led to it, inviting people to washington on january 6th saying it's going to be wild, telling them the election is stolen when it isn't, urging them to march up to capitol hill and saying, you know, i'll go up there with you. i knew listening to that he would never go. if donald trump's worried about breaking a fingernail, he doesn't go, let alone being in danger where people are being violent. then he goes back to the white house and watches people commit violent acts at the u.s. capitol and does nothing. if you're not morally responsible then for what happened on january 6th having done that, forget legally, is

that the kind of person you want behind the desk in the oval office? whether you believe he should go to jail or not, whether you believe he's criminal or not, is that the bar now for being president of the united states? well, not only -- he may have committed a crime but we think it may be politically motivated. that's why i say, put that stuff aside and look at the conduct. look at the conduct on that case. look at the conduct in the documents case where he was asked for 18 months quietly, privately to give them back. and look at the conduct in the stormy daniels case, which i think is a ridiculous prosecution to be brought. but do we really want a president paying off a porn star during an election to hide the fact he had an affair while he was married. that's my argument and that's why the numbers don't worry me as much as you think they might. >> when we come back we're going to get the governor's take on the alleged plot to assassinate ukraine's president with president zelenskyy recently in

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nick, what more do we know about this alleged assassination plot? >> not a vast amount, but it is important that ukraine security services felt they had to put this out in the public. we know the informant, it's not clear what nationality she has, appears to have worked in a peninsula close to the water town of nicolai, where she is said to have gathered information about it that has already happened by ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy. she's said to work in a military surplus store, and some of the messages she has been passing back and forth. the ukraine security services show she's being asked to talk about the date, the place, maybe even take pictures of perhaps the hospital zelenskyy may have gone to. it's clear this failed obviously. it's all in the past tense. but it's also important to point out that zelenskyy is someone moscow would have done anything to try and kill over the past year or so. and informants like this are relatively common.

29 statements by ukraine about intercepting informants like this received over the past few months. but still an important enough moment they felt they had to put this particular instance out in public. >> what's the latest on air strikes and drone strikes? >> reporter: we've had a pretty awful last few hours, specifically in pa cross k, a town where a residential building appears to have been hit by two missiles. the death toll is growing, it's fair to say, and we're also seeing a large number injured, in the dozens. people combing through the rubble, perhaps, as detonations don't. it's important to point out, while these numbers get awful, they are likely, frankly. we've seen in many towns across ukraine, deeply troubling for civilians here who live in the black of night. you can see behind me waiting for sirens and often russia's vengeful rather against populated areas where often missile strikes do appear to be indiscriminate and take many civilian lives, anderson.

>> nick paton walsh, thank you. back now with republican presidential candidate and governor chris christie. you just met with president zelenskyy in kyiv. what was your impression of him? >> very bright, very committed, and very detailed about the things that he thinks have gone well both in the war and his relationship with the west. >> i assume the news of the assassination plot is nothing new. it probably doesn't surprise you. >> it doesn't surprise me because anderson, i did this work as a prosecutor for seven years. your senses get much more sensitized to this kind of thing. i was walking through the presidential office building. all the lights were out in the place. there were big drapes over the windows and sandbags everywhere. and it was clear that it was very hard, even for me and people in my party who they were expecting. the security was extraordinary. more than i've ever seen at the

white house, for instance. and so when i heard this now today about the plot, i'm not surprised. i think they were aware of what was going on and on guard. >> you were also in bucha. i know you met with families whose kids have been taken into russia. we've done a lot of with the icc prosecutor. do you think anybody will be brought to justice on the russian side for the kidnapping of ukrainian children? >> first the ukrainians have to win the war before i think there will be any justice for this. think about this. and i don't think a lot of people in our country are focused on it. over 19,000 children verified. it's probably more. but over-19,000 children verified, taken from their homes and their families. imagine for anybody out there who's a mother or father and they've lost their child. their child is taken away. they don't know if their child is dead or alive. they don't know if their child is being cared for or being abused. and they know they're being programmed to be told that ukrainians are awful people and that they're really russians. this is not a territorial

dispute. in bucha, they were talking of soldiers going on one particular street -- and we were talking about this -- going door to door and taking men out of their houses, men, gouging out their eyes, cutting off their ears, tying their hands behind their backs and shooting them in the back of the head and then going back into the homes and raping the women. this is barbarism and it's barbarism authorized and encouraged by the man that donald trump calls excellent and a genius and brilliant in vladimir putin. well, if that's brilliance, we don't need brilliance on the world stage. >> you know, we hear from a lot of, you know, the extreme house republicans who don't believe the u.s. should be involved, don't think there's too much money going to ukraine, don't see this as a -- as anything more than a territorial dispute that the u.s. shouldn't be part of. what do you say to -- do you hear that in new hampshire voters? do you hear that in iowa voters? is that the majority out there, or is that an anomaly?

>> i don't believe it's a majority. i believe it's a significant minority, not a -- so, it's not a small amount either. but i think that it's because, quite frankly, president biden has failed in articulating why it's so important. he's doing things that are more than what president trump was doing. but he's not articulating the argument. what i would say to the american people is, you could pay me now or pay me later. if we are willing to supply the ukrainians with the weaponry they need -- think about this, anderson. i heard this this week that per day the ukrainians are being outgunned in artillery by the russians by a count of 11 to 1. if we give them the artillery they need, we give them the f-16s that they should have had some time ago in my view, and let them win the war against russia, we'll never have to have that fight. and china is watching. and if we cut and run like some people on this stage that will

be with me august 23rd, are going to advocate for. we cut and run, the chinese are watching, and the next step will be taiwan. if you don't care about atrocities against taiwan, i guess i can understand that. but how about lest make it practical. two-thirds of the world's semiconductors that run everything from the phones we have, computers, our cars, are manufactured in taiwan. who do you want to control that? the united states of america and a free country of taiwan, or another, you know, group of folks who are controlled by the communist party of china? these are the stakes that are up there right now. and i don't think joe biden's articulated that, and i think it is his fault in addition with some republicans who are being negative about it, his fault that he hasn't made a better case to all the american people. i went over there because i wanted to see for myself. and now i've seen. and i've seen a shallow grave with 160 people buried in it, civilians who were murdered outside a church in bucha. and then the church was

ransacked by the russians. vladimir putin's doing this. and america needs to stand up for this because if we don't, then we're going to be saying american men and women to fight and die someplace else in the world because we didn't arm the ukrainians now. >> governor christie, i appreciate it your time. coming up, more on the former president's online threat after his newest indictment and his attorney's legal filings. our legal team weighs in. another indictment decision could come any day now in georgia. we'll be right back. when migraine strikes. are the tradeoffs of treating worth it? ubrelvy is another option. it quickly stops migraine in its tracks. not take with strong cyp3a4 inhibitors. allergic reactions to ubrelvy can happen. most common sideffects were nausea and sleepiness. ask about ubrelvy. ♪ ♪ we're reinventing our network... ...with smarter, more efficient routes...

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tonight we've been talking with presidential candidate chris christie who said the

former president's online threat, quote, there are always limits on free speech. he summed up what his reaction to the social media post from the attorneys is, oh, my god, i can't believe he did that again. i'm joined by adam kinzinger, former congressman and member of the january 6th committee, tia mitchell, and senior legal analyst, elie honig, author of "untouchable: how powerful people get away with it." it hasn't even been a week since the former president was indicted in the 2020 election case. you already see him lashing out at the prosecution and the judge. i mean, add now mike pence. where does this go? >> this is going to be a real challenge for prosecutors and the judge alike because as a defendant, donald trump does have some rights. you have the right to criticize your judge and prosecutor. donald trump has a way of taking these rights and maximizing them and going too far. the question is how far will be too far. the only people who can stop

this are the prosecutor and the judge. and at some point i think the prosecutor is going to need to go to the judge and say -- look, right now they're negotiating over to what extent donald trump can talk about the discovery publicly. it's going to have to go farther than that. i know nobody wants a gag order, but if he continues to make statements that pose a threat to people by any reasonable construction, prosecutors are going to have to go to the judge. judge is going to have to take action. >> congressman kinzinger, if you go after me, i'm coming after you, is just political, nothing to do with the case. >> it's garbage, honestly. donald trump is really good and he's practiced this over decades at saying something but in a way you could somehow conceivably argue that he means something else. you see that through his whole life, through his whole career. of course he was sitting around angry, tweeted that out. he's mad. he's done other things to threaten. you know, boy, it's not me, but

this could turn really violent if you do this and this is going to destroy our country and not to mention all the other fake tweets he's put out where he talked about america is going to hell, nancy pelosi is going to hell. you see a man that is literally losing his mind. i don't even mean that metaphorically. i think he's actually going insane. so, no, i don't think it's just protected political speech when you make a threat. there are people out there that are going to take that seriously and they're going to take action. i had a number of them, you know, reaching out to me in my office saying that, you know, donald trump said something bad at me, they're taking that literally and they're going to come after me and my 18-month-old kid. someone is going to have to take action. >> really nobody other than governor christie, asa hutchinson, and little hurd are really taking him to task for this. >> nobody is. chris christie did a fantastic job, again, asa, will hurd.

but everybody else is, like, in this magical land where somehow donald trump will just simply disappear from the political scene. somebody in a white horse is going to come down and bestow upon them the presidency so they won't have made any of his followers mad. you cannot run against the front -- being president is -- you have to be a very strong person to be president of the united states. none of these candidates, besides those three, have shown that they're willing to take on even one of the weaker men in existence, donald trump. how can they take on russia and china? to me, i scratch my head at this. i get how some of my former colleagues are that way now, but you're running for president. why so quiet? >> tia, the former president is awaiting charging decisions in georgia on whether he tried to illegally overturn the election results in fulton county. have officials indicated what they'll do if the former president is indicted and reacts the same way he's been reacting in the federal case by going after the judge and the prosecution? >> i think number one what

officials in georgia are trying to do as much as they can prepare, study the other cases, study how other law enforcement agencies are handling things. but i think in general, what the fulton county district attorney and what the local judges have tried to kind of model ahead of whatever may happen in the coming weeks is that they're trying to follow the letter of the law. they're trying to treat former president trump and his allies. anyone else who would face charges the same way they would any other defendant in the fulton county courthouse. so, in that way, we expect no preferential treatment, but we expect that should they decide that if president trump is indicted and if they believe he's trying to intimidate witnesses or in other ways tamper with the case as it moves forward, they probably will deal with him the way they've dealt with other defendants in the past. we've got -- fulton county views

high profile trials -- there's a high profile rico case involving a rapper right now. and there's been lots of rebukes from the judge on that case on many different levels. and, again, it's a very different type of case. but it's high profile. it involves a celebrity. it involves these racketeering charges. all these things are kind of things that could come up in this trump-related case. >> elie, in terms of the former president, can he -- obviously he wants the judge to be recused. he wants, you know, a new venue. none of that is going to happen. >> absolutely not. he's got no chance of succeeding. first of all, there's zero evidence this judge is biased against him. all he can point to is she was nominated to the bench by barack obama. so what, judge cannon was nominated by donald trump. neither of those things merits recusal.

and she's been tough on january 6th rioters, appropriately so, and she's been upheld. with regard to the venue, the fact this case is charged in d.c., that's where the case allegedly occurs. the only base to move it would be if it's impossible to hold a fair trial there. i'd be surprised if he even makes those motions. they have zero merit. >> the former president and his allies complain about what they say is this two-tiered justice. any other criminal defendant would not be able to get away with this. >> it kind of is a two-tiered system whereas donald trump is getting away with a lot. i get it. he was former president and there was certain leverage you have to give to him. but, you know, he attempted to launch an insurrection, he attempted a coup. he has continuously misled half the country. he has led people to commit crimes as well. this idea that the doj just has it out for him -- i mean, he should have been charged years ago for this. he should have been charged at

least a year ago and hasn't been. so, i think if anything, the doj has been too slow because they're worried about going after a former president. i don't necessarily knock them on that concern. but, my goodness, he's certainly not being treated worse than everybody else. >> adam kinzinger, elie honig, thanks so much. brazen store robberies, carjackings, assaults, some in broad daylight. now the naacp is calling for a state of emergency and what city leaders are saying about the ramp up in crime coming up. booking.com, booking.yeah ♪ ♪

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welcome back. in oakland, california, robberies, burglaries, assaults are surging compared to last year. the california highway patrol is being tapped to help fight crime and protect the city's 400,000 residents. the move comes af oakland branch of the naacp and a local pastor called on city leaders to declare a state of emergency due to the crime. with more on the situation, here's cnn's kyung lah. >> i love oakland. it's very hard for me and my son, especially my son. >> reporter: so, kristen cook is leaving oakland, california. >> be careful. >> reporter: af living here her entire life. >> i can't take it anymore. i got to the point i was too scared to leave my house. >> reporter: cook blames brazen assaults, robberies, and home invasions across the city, as oakland sees a surge in violent

crime this year compared to last. while homicides are down, robberies, burglaries, and rape are all up by double digit percentages. everyone we talk to says it doesn't matter your race, your income. everyone seems to be a target, including carjackings like this one. >> no. [ screaming ] >> i was at a stop sign and my son is about to start driving. the fact that i am being pushed out because i emotionally can't take it anymore is horrible. >> reporter: but tony byrd is staying. she lives with a locked front gate and five security cameras. oakland police recommended steel braces for residential doors and air horns. >> the idea is if you set it off, your neighbor would hear it, set theirs off, and more people are alert that there's danger. >> reporter: her neighbor across the street, retiree schneider

was shot during the day. he died as byrd and other neighbors tried to save him. >> i'm not looking for the perfect, safe place. i'm looking for a place where the elderly women with children aren't targeted. i think we can all agree that that needs to change. so, i feel like it will change. and that's why i'm staying. >> find everything you're looking for okay? >> reporter: but staying open gets tougher every day for troy welch, owner of this ace hardware. >> there's about six of them that comes in. >> reporter: welch's store was robbed just hours before we met him. >> they went through our cash registers. this is my office. they tried to take a sledge hammer to it, tried to lift it. they aren't getting into that safe. >> reporter: welch says he loses 10% of his merchandise to theft. he leaves his registers empty and open, tired of replacing them. >> it's more brazen, sometimes more violent, i think, than what

it used to be. >> how long does it take for police to arrive? >> 45 minutes. >> 45 minutes? is that typical? >> that's probably fast. >> reporter: frustration has spilled over in community meetings, anger often directed at leadership like the newly elected district attorney, who has been on the job just seven months. >> it's unreal. >> i'm a black man born and raised in oakland. when i walk out the house every day, i want to be safe. so, if that calls for some, whoever commits the crime, to be prosecuted, so be it. but we want it to be fair and just. >> darren white is with the naacp oakland branch which penned an open letter to their city blaming failed leadership, the defund the police movement, and antipolice rhetoric for creating a heyday for oakland criminals. >> we're not trying to say mass incarceration and arrest everyone. we want the people that are out here committing these violent crimes arrested and charged. >> do we need more cops on the

street? >> yes, we do need more. every community needs police. >> reporter: oakland's interim police chief says oakland is taking a comprehensive approach to fighting crime. >> they all say that the crime feels different now. why is that? >> so, i think because it is pervasive, not just localized or we have seen group violence, that feeling has become that it's everywhere. >> reporter: from cops to crime prevention, funded for 712 officers, ellison says he has 715 on staff. >> so, what you're seeing is changes of bail, changes in sentencing. >> reporter: are you saying you need tougher punishment on the back end? >> it's everything. it's not just enforcement and punishment. i think accountability comes in many forms. >> reporter: we did hear from oakland's mayor, who was not available to speak with us on camera. she said, similar to what you heard from the police chief there, that the focus is not

completely on enforcement but on prevention and looking at the root causes of crime, looking at housing, education, and employment. we also did reach out to the alameda county district attorney's office who declined to speak with us on camera and took on the naacp. the district attorney saying that she was, quote, disappointed in the naacp's statement that it was, quote, a false narrative and that she would expect more from such a storied institution. anderson? >> kyung lah, thanks very much. just ahead, abortion laws in the wake of the supreme court overturning roe v. wade. why did idaho become the only state in the country to baban tracking -- hi, i'm sharon, and i lost 52 pounds on golo. on other diets, i could barely lose 10-15 pounds. thanks to golo, i've lost 27% of my bodyeight,

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tomorrow, ohio voters will consider a republican led measure that if it passes could make it much more difficult to pass a constitutional amendment supporting abortion rights in the state come november. republican controlled states have passed or attempted to pass more restrictive regulations and laws in the u.s. since roe v. wade was overturned. that includes idaho, where a separate decision to disband the maternal review committee makes

it the only state in the country without such a committee to track maternal deaths. >> ultimately i think all of this comes back down to what women and children are going to lose in the state. >> reporter: dr. stacy sooif is a maternal fetal doctor in boise, idaho, also chair of -- that tracked mortalities in the state of idaho. >> the mission of mmrc is to review and look at, you know, mortalities and understand why they might have happened. at that point, then make some recommendations where we see those gaps occur. >> reporter: but that committee is now gone. the state legislature let it expire. >> our mmrc was not an experiment. >> reporter: dr. kaitlan gustavson practices family medicine in idaho. she was also a member of the maternal mortality review committee. >> i think idahoans should be alarmed that legislators have

taken it upon themselves to decide what's better or what's best for idahoans' health care and how we best prevent the worst outcomes in medicine, rather than the doctors and their teams that are at the bedside. >> reporter: the dissolvement of this committee comes on the heels of idaho passing some of the most restrictive abortion laws in the country. if the mother's life is in danger or in the case of rape or incest that have been reported to a law enforcement agency. as a result, five of the nine maternal fetal medicine doctors who dealt with high-risk pregnancies have decided to practice in another state, rather than risk going to jail if they perform an abortion here. that's why idaho doctors we spoke with argue the maternal mortality review committee is more vital than ever. >> if we're not looking at where our problems are and how they arise, how do we make them better? how do we fix them?

>> what we're trying to do is prevent deaths, okay? we all have the same end goal. it's just how we get there. >> reporter: idaho representative megan -- who is the republican majority leader in the state house says the mmrc was ineffective. >> what was your biggest problem with the maternal mortality review committee? >> i want action, right? if there are deaths that we can prevent, i want to be able to go forward and take action on that. and i never felt comfortable that this committee was providing action items. >> members of the committee, though, would say that's not how it was designed. they weren't supposed to take the action. you were supposed to come up with what's actionable, the legislature. >> right. well, it's difficult if you don't give me suggestions f. you're such an authority that you know so much more about this situation than i do, then you should have some suggestions for me. >> i wholeheartedly disagree. i think it was very productive. >> reporter: dr. sooif says the

maternal mortality review committee recommended expanding medicaid for expectant mothers, increasing coverage for postpartum moms, since many of the deaths occurred after giving birth. >> were any adopted by the legislature? >> not that i'm aware of. it's very frustrating. >> reporter: the two key changes the mmrc recommended to the legislature were never implemented. -- says the legislature is working with the department of health and welfare to figure out how the department can access health data similar to the review committee did. >> this committee is a dedicated review to each and every death, which is bringing forth is not equivalent in any way. >> what do you say to critic who is say that getting rid of the maternal mortality review committee in the wake of some of the most restrictive abortion laws in the state of idaho is just a deliberate effort to hide

really what will inevitably be a rise in maternal mortality in this state? >> absolutely not true. what there is a concerted effort to do is to prevent death. >> randi, is there any chance the maternal mortality review committee will be reinstated in idaho? >> reporter: anderson, it depends on a couple of things. the representative hopes to have the new procedure in place for how the department of health and welfare will gather data by january. and the legislature will monitor that. they'll look at what data are they collecting, are they making smart recommendations. if the legislature is not satisfied, there is a chance the mmrc could come back into play. but that would require new legislation that would have to pass, and the governor would have to sign it. we did get a statement from the idaho press secretary, and she said brad little supports the mmrc, that he signed the legislation in 2019, and he does

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