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good morning, everyone. so glad you're with us. it is a tuesday, full of news. victor blackwell by my side. good morning. >> good to be back. >> good to have you. >> here all week. five things to know for this tuesday, august 8th. new this morning, the east coast cleaning up after deadly storms, trees are down, roads are blocked. hundreds of thousands of people without power. already more than 300 flights cancelled. happening today, the police chief in montgomery, alabama, is expected to reveal more information about that brawl that broke out on the city's river front. it started after a black dock worker was attacked by a group of white people. so far no arrests. but four warrants have been issued. right now, los angeles city workers are on a 24-hour strike. 11,000 workers including sanitation workers, engineers, life guards, all headed for the picket lines. they say it's a fight for fair contracts. this hour, polls open in ohio as voters decide whether to make it harder to amend their
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state constitution. it is part of a real proxy fight over abortion rights in the state. early voting turnout has been huge. more than half a million votes already cast. you feeling lucky? i know it's early, but you know, check the gauge. the drawing for the largest mega millions jackpot in history is tonight. a little more than $1.5 billion is the jackpot. "cnn this morning" starts right now. ♪ did you buy your lottery ticket? >> i was in a pool for the last drawing for mega millions, but yeah i'll get in this one. >> yeah. that would make for a good week in new york. >> yeah. it's worth it. >> we'll get to the lottery in a moment. we do begin this morning with the powerful and deadly storms that moved across the united states. they killed at least two people. today hundreds of thousands are
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waking up in the dark. >> oh my god. >> that is a tree snapped in half by the wind in moorsville, north carolina. residents in indiana's orange county are digging out after tornado pummelled grainerries, ripped off roofs there. look at that. >> nearly 400,000 people are without power from north carolina to tennessee. maryland state police say 47 people were rescued after being trapped in their vehicles for hours when those strong winds downed the power lines. now, it's just about 6:00 a.m. on the east coast here. already more than 300 flights have been cancelled. more than 700 delayed. let's go to meteorologist derek van dam now in the weather center. when you look at some of these pictures and the cell phone video coming in, you can understand how this has been so challenging for people and there is more coming. >> yeah, victor, poppy, after
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yesterday's hurricane forced wind gusts and softball sized hail that fell from the sky, today will feel like a walk in the park for the areas impacted most by the storm system. but the severe weather threat not done just yet. it's all part of the larger storm system that rocked the eastern sea board yesterday. take a listen. >> reporter: with wind gusts estimated over 75 miles per hour, the impact was immediate. >> oh my god. holy [ bleep ]. >> reporter: in moorsville, north carolina, tyson winter captured this video of a tree snapping in half and falling to the ground near an apartment complex. heavy rain, thunder around violent winds hammered cities and towns east of the mississippi river. by monday night, there had been more than 400 reports of strong winds across the region. and more than a million customers were without power across 11 states. in states like north carolina, pennsylvania, georgia and maryland, according to power
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outage.u.s. monday's severe weather is impacting around 120 million people along the eastern u.s., from downed trees in hartford county, maryland, to widespread damage, to holmes and public buildings upstate new york down to alabama, causing a lot of mess and spreading hazards along the way. in washington, d.c., cnn captured this video of a man removing a large branch from a city street. this photo shows downed power lines littering a roadway in carol county, maryland, after a storm passed through the area. another driver captured the chaos caused by those electric poles in westminster on route 140. more than 30 vehicles were stuck in the incident, but no injuries were reported. in many parts, the storm caused extreme low visibility. in downtown philadelphia, a live tower camera showed the magnitude of the weather conditions. in victory gardens, new jersey, several residents displaced after a tree fell on a home,
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bringing down power lines and crashing cars. according to cnn affiliate wabc, the house was occupied at the time but there were no injuries reported. the storms caused major travel disruptions in the skies on monday. according to data from flight aware, more than 10,000 u.s. flights were impacted by the severe storms on monday. more than 1,700 cancelled. all this as new weather threats are expected to develop for tuesday afternoon with risk of severe thunderstorms in several southern states. the severe weather threat along the i-95 corridor has largely come to an end except for greater metro region in boston. slight risk across the gulf coast state and also across the central plains today. with these temperatures being so hot across the south doesn't take much for the severe
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thunderstorms to bubble over and cause some of these damaging winds and large hail we saw yesterday. victor, poppy? >> no question about it. those pictures really speak 1,000 words. derek, we appreciate it. thank you. just hours from now donald trump is set to hit the campaign trail as he faces a whirlwind of developments in multiple criminal cases against him. he'll be speaking in new hampshire, while his defense team battles with special counsel jack smith over a protective order in the election interference case. smith is trying to block trump from disclosing evidence to the public before the trial. he's accusing trump and his lawyer of wanting to try the case in the media instead of the courtroom, but trump's team says smith is trying to restrict his free speech rights. the judge says she's going to order a hearing this week as she prepares to decide. cnn exclusively reported that trump's ally and former new york city police commissioner met with the special counsel investigators yesterday and the focus was trump's alleged coconspirator, rudy giuliani. meanwhile, in atlanta, new
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signs indictments could be imminent for the alleged scheme to reject the results of the election. the state's exlieutenant governor, contributor to cnn, you see him on this program a lot, jeff duncan has been subpoenaed to testify to the fulton county grand jury. >> i'll keep the details to myself to protect the integrity of the investigation, but there's a very clear subpoena that was delivered to us late last week and we will certainly answer the questions that they've got before us and answer their call to show up for the grand jury. >> also the trump-appointed judge overseeing the mar-a-lago classified documents probe, new developments there. that judge questioning why the justice department used an out of state grand jury in washington, d.c. to bring the indictment. let's bring cnn kaittelyn polan in for more. what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, this january 6th federal case. let's look at that. that's where there have been
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five filings from the justice department and trump's team together since friday. that's a lot of stuff that anyone would be filing in court. and the judge there has already signaled she is not going to be interested in much like these shenanigans when they're debating back and forth. the debate is about pretrial publicity. how much can donald trump and his team talk publicly about the information they're getting from the justice department as they work towards trial. and so the justice department has to turn over information evidence to donald trump and his team that they don't have at this time. there's all kinds of stuff that's out there that's public that donald trump would have access to. there's his own information that he and his team have collected as the january 6th investigation has unfurled. but in this situation, there's specific information that they haven't seen yet. and so the debate legally right now is that the justice department wants all of that to
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be locked down so that donald trump and others can't talk about it publicly or release it before a trial and possibly infringe upon his ability to have a fair trial. trump's team is saying, free speech. we should be able to talk about this. we should be able to only have a small subset of that under a court order that would say you can't disclose it before trial. that's what's before the judge right now. the justice department came back last night in a filing and essentially said, there's no law or even purpose for donald trump to be out there wanting to talk about evidence before trial that he hasn't seen yet. but, you know, this has been a lot of discussion back and forth where they're sharing each other's social media posts, they're talking about politics. so the judge stepped in last night and said, we're going to have a hearing. we're going to have it before friday. let's figure out a time and date to do that. and so, we're going to have to wait and see what the judge does here, but she is not playing around here. she does want to get this settled pretty quickly. >> let's talk about this cnn
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exclusive reporting that bernie kark met with the special counsel for five hours yesterday. what do we know about that, what they're trying to learn from him? >> yeah. so, his attorney was actually quite clear about what bernie kerik was asked about when he met with the special counsel's office for an interview over at their offices. his attorney came out of the special counsel's office alongside bernie kerik and said they were discussing what the giuliani team was doing. what rudy giuliani and others whom bernie kerik was working with after the 2020 election to find evidence of fraud which they couldn't find what they were doing between election day on 2020 and january 6th. the reason this matters is twofold, this is the first time we have seen investigative activity really after that indictment of donald trump last week. and on top of that, we're seeing investigative activity on a particular lane about rudy giuliani and what rudy giuliani
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is doing. he's one of those conspirators uncharged in the trump indictment, but there's a lot of stuff to still watch including whether grand jury activity will pick up again. >> katelyn polantz for the reporting. thank you so much. >> let's talk about all these headlines, jessica washington is with us, john avlon and elie honig. good morning, guys. >> good morning. >> elie, i think your take on what the trump team is asking for in their new filing is really interesting and important. you think what they're saying is reasonable to say you can't totally limit -- you can't muzzle our client. there is some middle ground here. >> so this happens sometimes in court blessedly where both sides are being quite reasonable. doj is saying we don't want donald trump to be able to take any of the discovery materials that we turn over, witness statements, evidence, and bring those public. donald trump's team didn't say, no, we should use all of it. how about we limit that to sensitive materials and we'll let you, doj, decide in the first instance what's sensitive
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and what's not. doj came back and said the purpose of discovery is not to enable your pr efforts. it's to inform you and let you prepare for trial. so all of those are good points. and judge chutkan will have to sort through them. look, i suspect she's going to try to find some middle ground here because while there have to be some limits on what you can say publicly, you can't cross the line into jury tampering or witness tampering or intimidation, you do have as a defendant, the right, you can criticize the judge and the case against you and criticize the prosecution. >> okay. but just -- it is a matter of how you read something then i guess because what the trump team is saying when trump put on truth social, you come after me, i'll go after you. that was political not going after special counsel or anyone here. >> yeah. that's a bit of a separate issue. his statements, his inflammatory statements are separate from this protective order. the question for this protective order, what can he do with the evidence. there's a fine line that needs to be walked here.
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donald trump is masterful at saying things that give him plausible deniability. we all know and more than people at this table understand what he means. >> that's the overlap. legal is political, political is legal for trump's strategy. does that make sense from a political perspective that the trump campaign says don't keep everything from us. just the sensitive elements. >> well to your point blurring of the political and the legal. trump is willing to weaponize whatever he can get his hands on. that's why i think the context of trump's statements matters. he has a history of using threats and intimidation. now, whether that crosses over into witness temperatures becomes a question for the judge. that's that gray area. but there's every reason to question how they will use this information in the court of public opinion because that always seems to be donald trump's first instinct. >> what is the significance of judge alean cannon, overseeing the mar-a-lago documents probe, questioning whether it was legal to use a d.c. grand jury as part of this probe. right? they had a grand jury in
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southern florida and one in d.c. explain why that matters given the optics of some prior decisions she had made that were in trump's favor earlier, way earlier on and all of this after the fbi searched mar-a-lago. explain why people are questioning this. >> yeah. i think there have been a lot of eyes on this judge. for one, she's a trump-appointed judge. i'm not saying that makes her biassed in any way, that's the perception perhaps. then you also think about the fact that she ruled in a way that was favorability to trump that got overturned to the point of -- >> unanimously overturned. >> unanimously overturn and specifically said this does not have any legal precedent. so you have a judge that has been seen repeatedly to be favorable to trump and now once again in the spotlight in this major way. every single decision she makes, particularly decisions that are favorable to trump or that could delay this trial until after the election is going to be in the spotlight. >> elie, just two weeks ago, right, that the fani willis in fulton county said that the work is accomplished in that
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investigation. >> right. >> now we've learned that the georgia former lieutenant governor jeff duncan is subpoenaed in the election interference case there. so which is it? why is he now being asked to come and answer questions? >> work is done apparently not. if jeff duncan, our colleague just got a subpoena. yes, it's not quite done yet. this could be the final stage. maybe she wasn't speaking quite literally done done done. but this could be a finishing touch. i was trying to think about what former lieutenant governor duncan would have to say. remember, as lieutenant governor in georgia he was in charge of the senate. that was one of his state constitutional duties. there was false testimony by rudy giuliani given to the senate. he could be a capstone witness. i agree. i still expect her to indictment very, very shortly. i don't think this is some unexpected speed bump that will push the timeline back. >> go ahead. >> this gets baaing to the rudy of it all tied into cnn's exclusive reporting around bernie kerik. i worked with bernie kerik and worked for rudy giuliani a long time ago. the fact that bernie was so
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embedded with donald trump this time around, you know, he's got a lot of access and a lot of information. and the question is whether they were proceeding in good faith which is hard to do if you have absolutely zero evidence. but as i said before and say again, hyperpartisanship is a hell of a drug. >> just one other issue. so after trump was found liable for defaming and his physical attacks on e. jean carroll, he countersued her for defamation for comments she made here on cnn. and now judge has dismissed that. signi significance? >> i think it's incredibly significant. it's one of these cases that we're just not talking about. the fact that the judge said this defamation suit has no weight but said in the -- not the letter of the law but cloak wee ally the term rape does apply to the situation. i think that should matter to people that a judge looked at the evidence and said, this is what happens. >> right. because she said on our air,
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asked in her response, oh, yes, you did. oh, yes, you did about trump referring to that. a judge is saying, yes, she can say that. >> yeah. i do think it maybe opens the water for everyone to talk about this more and to take it seriously because this is not just something that is alleged at that point. a judge is saying this did happen. and it also opens the door for people like us to say that is what happened. >> thank you all very much, jessica, john, elie, appreciate it. coming up, new cnn reporting this morning on ukraine's counteroffensive, the sobering updates western allies are receiving. there's also a new warning from top fed officials that even more interest rate hikes could be on the way. we'll talk about that ahead. ♪ ( ♪ ) ♪ please don't go ♪ ♪ please dodon't go... ♪ ♪ please e don't go ♪ ♪ please don't go ♪ ♪ don't goooooo! ♪ ( ♪ )
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now, among the injured, first responders and two children. the second missile landed as rescuers arrived to save people. >> we also have this new cnn reporting this morning and it reveals that ukraine's western allies are receiving increasingly sobering updates about ukraine's counteroffensive, specifically about ukrainian force's ability to retake significant territory. our colleagues cnn anchor chief national correspondent jim sciutto joins us now. it's startling and concerning. >> reporter: it is. it's a change from the optimism at the start at this counteroffensive some weeks ago, but weeks in, ukrainian forces encountering real difficulty, russian forces have built and put up really a devastating defense there so that as they look at the status of this war but also the chances for significant progress, western officials receiving increasingly sobering assessments. as one senior western diplomat told me, they're still going to see for the next couple weeks
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descrihe uainian forces if there's a chance ofaking some progress, but forhem to really make progress that would change the balance of this conflict, i think it's extremely, highly unlikely. and i was speaking to multiple officials briefed on the latest intelligence who were seeing the same picture here. a number of things, russian defensive lines, three layers, tens of thousands of mines as they've been assaulting those lines, ukrainian forces are incurring staggering, just staggering losses. in response to that, they have often pulled back some of their forces, becoming casualty o verse understandably. and that has limited their chances for making further progress going forward, but there's also a bigger picture issue here, realizing that just a few weeks of training, eight weeks of training in some cases on some of the western supplied tanks, for instance, is not enough to instantly create new, highly capable mechanized units
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to successfully assault those russian defensive lines. now, they still maintain hope that this could change, but it is a marked change, poppy and victor, from what i was hearing a few weeks ago at the start of this counteroffensive. >> this sounds not just about weapon support. nothing that the west can give ukrainian that will change this dramatically, it's about so much more. >> reporter: well, no magic bullet, as it were, no single weapon system that's suddenly going to change the status of this. by the way, when you do provide those new systems it takes time. for instance, the u.s. just approving sending abrams tanks there now. but they're not going to get there until the fall. they're still training up ukrainian forces on those tanks. so, the view is there's not one system they could send tomorrow and fundamentally change the nature of this battle here. this is shaping up to be a long, difficult slog with heavy losses on both sides. and time pressure as well.
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because as you get into the fall, the weather changes. makes it more difficult to push forward. so, they're feeling time pressure to make some ground, right, before then. but, i wouldn't say pessimistic is the view, but i would certainly say a sobering view of their chances. >> all right. jim sciutto with the reporting. thanks so much, jim. >> thanks. >> yeah, jim, thank you. all-out brawl breaking out on a dock in montgomery, alabama. look at that. now multiple arrest warrants have been issued. and how this car ended up wedged into the second floor of this house in pennsylvania. >> what? >> that's ahead. ♪ upuploaded new art, and had d boxes sent to all the shops. custom ink makakes it so easy. get started today at customink.com. the all-new tempur-pedic breeze makes sleep feel cool. so, no more sweating all night... ...or blasting the air conditioning. because the temp-breeze feels up to 10° cooler, all night long. for a limited time, save $500 on all-new tempur-brze
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♪ later today, officials in montgomery, alabama, will hold a news conference to address what led to a wild brawl over the weekend at the city's waterfront. it happened saturday evening when a black dock worker was trying to get a pontoon boat moved so the city's river boat could dock, but there was this huge fight that ensued when white boaters assaulted that employee. cnn's ryan young is following this story for us. ryan this video and reactions to it have been all over social media. and now there are warrants issued for arrests. >> reporter: that's absolutely right. of course we have that 2:00 news conference to go through later on today. but you think about it, we talked to a witness who stresses this man was trying to do his
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job when he was attacked. an altercation on a montgomery boat dock between a group of white boaters and black low escalated into a massive brawl that resulted in multiple arrest warrants. montgomery mayor steven reed is calling for justice to be served for attacking a man who was doing his job. >> it's an unfortunate incident. and it's something that we're investigating right now. we'll continue to go through that process before we take any additional steps. >> reporter: it all began when the black employee was trying to clear the dock space where the riverside cruise the hair yacht ii normally docks. the cruiser was about to return to shore and needed its space to dock. >> you know, just doing his job. and for some reason they didn't like it. they didn't want to move the boat. and he decided to get physical with him. >> reporter: you can see in the video, the black employee on the dock arguing with one of the men from the pontoon boat.
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and then another shirtless white man charging at the employee and hitting him in the face. soon after that, you can see several others join in on the attack of the dock employee. in some of the video, which has gone viral, with millions of views, people on the boat can be heard yelling for someone to go help the employee. then at one point, you can see a young man who has jumped off the boat swimming ashore to help the man who is being attacked. >> the boat got closer. the guys and the crew members and everybody got off and that's when it happened. that's the reason why when they got off the boat they came right to that smaller boat. >> reporter: and that's when more fighting ensues, turning into an all out brawl that included several people getting hit over the head with a folding chair. soon after, officers started trying to take control handcuffing people in the fight. >> you know, they were the antagonist of the whole situation. arrest them because unfortunately when things happen, people of color are the first to be put in handcuffs.
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>> reporter: many questions remain about the melee that appeared to be very much split across racial lines. >> we are fully engaged. we're doing all of our due diligence to find out exactly what took place. >> reporter: victor, i don't know if we can underscore enough how social media has taken this to the next level in terms of talking about this story. people want answers how this escalated so quickly. why blows were thrown so many times. a lot of people reacting to the worker in need, the fact he was being hit and jumped before everyone else jumped in to try to solve this. interesting to see what happens today at that news conference. >> yeah. he was just doing his job and asking them as he should have to move the boat. and they attacked him. ryan young, thank you for that. >> yeah. so this morning, a driver in central pennsylvania could face some serious charges after police say he intentionally crashed his car into the second floor of a home. you can see the car wedged into the side of the home. this was on sunday. officials say the driver was
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speeding, went off road into a field and then went airborne, crashing into that house. the suspect is 20 years old, was taken to the hospital. we hope they're doing okay. local reports say three people in the home at the time are not hurt, thank goodness. crews were able to remove the car and put a tarp over the hole it left behind. >> that's unreal. is air pollution making infectious diseases more dangerous? what a new study is revealing this morning. ♪ because of the on going writer's strike, the 40th season of "jeopardy" plans to use recycled clues and contestants. jeopardy show runner announced on the inside jeopardy podcast they will use a mix of material written before the strike and clues from seasons past. this show will also bring back contestants from recent seasons who lost their initial game and what it calls second-chance tournament. ♪
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♪ this morning, a top official of the federal reserve is warning multiple rate hikes could still be needed to inflation back to healthy, normal 2% levels. they made progress in lowering inflation over the past year. still, though, they have a long way to go. last month the fed raised its interest rates by quarter point, liftg tes to the highest level in 22 years. this is the 11th increase since march of 2022. it came a month after the central bank paused rates. where do they go now? cnn business correspondent rahel solomon is with us. good morning. >> good morning. good to be with you, guy. that is the big debate, where do they go now. we all thought, many people thought we were sort of at the
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end of the rate hiking cycle. now there's a question of how close we are. so the issue is that, although we have come a long way, remember when consumer price index was at 9% last year in june. we're closer to 3%. but when you look at core inflation, stripping away categories like food and energy, it's still much higher than the fed would like. so there's a question now of even though we have come so far, do they still do more? as you said, governor bowman said that more rate hikes may be necessary. she has been saying that. i think it raised some eyebrows when she made these comments yesterday because we had hoped that we were closer to the end and we wouldn't have to necessarily see more rate hikes. >> okay. we'll see what's to come. thank you, rahel. appreciate it. nasa's plans for additional vehicle to take astronauts to the international space station will have to wait, at least until 2024. that's because boeing says starliner will not be ready to launch until next march at the earliest. currently nasa is using spacex to ferry the crew. cnn's kristen fisher joins us from near the kennedy space
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center. why the delays? >> reporter: victor, it's more technical problems with the spacecraft itself. and some serious ones, too, including some issues with the parachutes that are designed to slow the spacecraft as it gently lands back on earth, splashes down into the ocean. and so this is another costly, lengthy delay for boeing. and this spacecraft the starliner spacecraft is designed to do for boeing what the crew dragon does for spacex, which is take astronauts, nasa astronauts from right here at the kennedy space center, up to the international space station and back. both companies were awarded contracts to do that nearly a decade ago. since then, spacex has delivered ferrying about seven nasa crews to the international space station. but, guys, so far boeing has not flown any crews. they were planning to try to launch their first crewed starliner flight this summer, but just a few weeks before that
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launch they found those problems and then yesterday, victor and poppy, that is when boeing announced that it was going to be next march at the earliest before they could make that launch attempt. so what this means is that nasa continues to be reliant on both spacex and even russia to get its astronauts up to the international space station. nasa wants redundancy in its operations. and so far it just hasn't been able to do that with this commercial crew program. one more thing, guys, in addition to nasa sending and continuing to send its astronauts up to the iss, they're trying to get astronauts back to the moon for the first time in more than 50 years. that artemis-ii crewed mission is now -- nasa has been saying it's scheduled to launch in late 2024, but they are here. the crew is here at the kennedy space center. we'll be getting an update on that a little later today. going to get up close and personal to the o'ryan
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spacecraft. it will be interesting to see if bill nelson and some of the other nasa leadership that's here today is going to be giving us an update on the timeline for that as well. but as of now, late 2024 is the target. >> all right. we'll look forward to it. thank you, kristin. the naccp of oakland, california, called for a state of emergency over a ramp in crime. residents are fed up and they're moving out. >> the fact that i am being pushed out because i emotionally can't take it anymore is horrible. ♪ innersprings, for a beautiful mattress, and indescribable comfort. for a limited time, saveve $400 on select stearns & foster mattresses. let innovation refunds help with your erc tax refund so you can improve your business however you see fit. to build an outdoor patio. clink! dr. marshall used part of h refund to give hipractice a facelift.
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♪ welcome back. in oakland, california, the city's crime rate grows so much so too are calls for action. it's not just residents sounding the alarm. the situation has grown so dire the local nacp has called for a state of emergency. >> i love oakland. it's very hard for me and my son, especially my son. >> reporter: so kristen cook is leaving oakland, california. >> be careful. >> reporter: after living here her entire life. >> can't take it anymore. i got to the point i was too scared to leave my house. >> reporter: cook blames brazen assaults and robberies in broad daylight, break-ins and home invasions across the city as oakland sees a surge in reported violent crimes this year compared to last, while
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homicides are down, robberies, burglaries and rape are all up by double digit percentages. everyone we talked to says it doesn't matter your race, your krk, everyone seems to be a target including carjackings, like this one. >> no. [ screams ] >> now they're carjacking people at stop signs. my son is about to start driving. the fact that i am being pushed out because i emotionally can't take it anymore is horrible. >> reporter: but tony bird is staying. she lives with a locked front gate and five security cameras. bird says oakland police recommended steel braces for residential doors and air horns. >> the idea is if you set it off, your neighbor would hear it, set their's off and more people are alert that there's danger. >> reporter: her neighbor across the street, 60-year-old retiree dave schneider was shot to death in june trimming his front tree during the day.
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he died as bird and other neighbors tried to save him. >> i'm not looking for the perfect, safe place. i'm looking for a place where the elderly, women with children, aren't targeted. i think we can all agree that that needs to change. i feel like it will change and that's why i'm staying. >> find everything you're looking for okay? >> reporter: but saying open gets tougher for troy welch, own ore of ace hardware. >> there's about six of them that comes in. >> reporter: welch's store was robbed just hours before we met him. >> they went through our cash registers. this is my office. but you'll see they went in, tried to take a sledge hammer to it. tried to lift it and figure out they aren't getting into that safe. >> reporter: welch says he loses 10% of his merchandise to theft. so common this year he leaves his registers empty and open, tired of replacing them. >> it's more brazen. sometimes more violent i think than what it used to be. >> reporter: how long does it take for police to arrive. >> 45 minutes. >> reporter: 45 minutes?
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is that typical? >> that's probably fast. >> reporter: frustration has spilled over in community meetings. anger often directed at leadership, like the newly-elected district attorney who has been on the job just seven months. >> it's unreal! >> i'm a black man, born and raised in oakland. when i walk out the house everyday, i want to be safe. so if that calls for some whoever commits the crime to be prosecuted, so be it. but we want to be fair and just. >> reporter: darren white is with the naacp oakland branch, which penned an open letter to their city, blaming failed leadership, the defund the police movement and anti-police rhetoric for creating a hay day for oakland criminals. >> we're not trying to say, you know, mass incarceration and arrest everyone. we want the people out here committing violent crimes arrested and charged. >> do we need more cops on the street? >> yes, we do.
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every community needs police. >> reporter: franked by partners in the city, oakland's interim police chief says oakland is taking a comprehensive approach to fighting crime. >> they all say the crime feels different now. why is that? >> so i think because it is perv pervasive, not just localized or may historically seen gang violence, that feeling has become that it's everywhere. >> reporter: from cops to crime prevention, funded for 712 officers, allison says he has 715 on staff. >> so what you're seeing is changes in bail, changes in sentencing. >> reporter: are you saying you need tougher punishment on the back end? >> it's everything. it's not just enforcement and punishment. accountability comes in many forms. >> reporter: kyung lah cnn, los angeles. >> john avlon, jessica washington are back with us. it more than feels different. the numbers show that in certain categories, it's up double digits. the question is the balance here of enforcing the law, getting
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people who need to be off the street off the street but not going too far in the other direction. >> absolutely. but that's the always the question in the balance. the balance seems to be decidedly off. what you saw in that is a city that is breaking down. when that happens, that unleashes all sorts of focus. we forget that i think sometimes that public safety is a fundamental civil right. the fact that that naacp branch came out and spoke partially that this is out of control. we need to stop this revolving door approach to justice. there needs to be sentencing and prosecutions. in a way that's consistent with equal rights and justice. that's not too much to ask. you see these stats, you got to take action because it's unleashing massive forces. you can't effectively have situations where, for example, mass theft going into stores and grabbing things under $1,000 is effectively decriminalized. >> explain why that matters. john is pointing to the fact that the law reads now -- i don't know if it's state or just california or national. if it's under 1,000 -- what did you say? >> under $1,000 either
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california or per store worth the hassle of the prosecution. >> if you steal $999 of stuff it's a misdemeanor. >> correct. >> a lot of people are pointing to things like that and saying this is leading to it just continuing. >> yeah. and i think that we can look at specific laws and say, okay, maybe this one needs to change. but i think the overwhelming message is what happened here was the defund movement and what happened was getting police off the street. i think that's where we saw the naacp letter. that's not what happened. oakland continuously increased their police budget. you can quibble with it didn't match up with inflation. there's different arguments about whether or not they increased it enough. but they increased it by 18% from 2019 to 2022. they increased it again this year. so this isn't an issue of we are taking police off the street. there were no layoffs in the police department in this year's budget. and you know, i think the argument is they actually did decrease skmunt violence intervention program funding in
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this year's budget. are there things we could be doing that we are not doing. we are funding the police in oakland. yet there is still crime. so, are there other methods that aren't this trade-off that we could be investing in. >> look, i think it's a 2% increase this calendar year. it's about the larger movement that's associated with that disastrous term defund the police. it's about cops backing off. it's about feeling the prosecutions aren't going forward. there's this revolving door issue to crime and punishment which you heard people in the piece complain about, including the police officers. >> look at camden, new jersey that completely restructured, redone their police force. i was reporting there. this was years ago. >> yep. >> it was incredibly successful saying this isn't working and a complete overhaul. >> look, this is an area that should be open to innovation, but you need to separate intentions from results. public safety is dropping down, people are feeling unsafe, hard reality, you heard that woman crying in the street because she
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has to leave oakland because people are getting shot out in broad daylight, cars stolen. that demands reaction or breeding reactionary forces politically, this is just about public safety. this is about protecting people. it shouldn't be politicized. >> john? go ahead quickly. >> it is true this is about action. i would think the folks who are saying we have tried policing over and over again. our community still feels unsafe. we increased the budget and saying what about these other methods we haven't tried, we haven't invested. people care deeply about their community. we pinpoint those as individuals who do not care about keeping the streets that. that's not born out. >> create reporting. thanks. house republicans really eyeing seriously an impeachment inquiry against president joe biden in the fall. more than 300,000 americans are waking up in the dark this morning after a powerful round of storms move through the east coast. the impact on flights today. that's next.
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