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assessments about ukraine's counteroffensive, specifically ukrainian forces' ability to retake significant territory from russia. ahead, the many challenges ukraine faces. here at home, we expect a live update from alabama officials. this after an ugly brawl along a riverfront park. police have issued at least four arrest warrants. we are following the latest. trump's legal team and the special counsel are up against the clock, facing a new deadline. they must respond to the judge within hours over essentially what the rules of the road will be leading up to the trial. we are following major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to "cnn news central." ♪ ♪ we begin with new reporting

today about the state of the counteroffensive in ukraine. weeks into it western officials are describing to me an increasingly sober assessment about ukrainian forces' ability to retake significant territory now held by russia. the primary challenge for those ukrainian forces is the continued difficulty of breaking through russia's defenses here, three defensive bands in the east and south of ukraine. these areas are marked by tens of thousands of land mines and here are some of the land mines as they're discovered there in the zaporizhzhia region. extremely dangerous to find and destroy them. in addition to land mines there are vast networks of trenches. ukrainian forces, as they tried to break through the trenches, the land mines and other defenses have been incurring losses in the south and east leading ukrainian commanders to

hold back units to regroup. a senior official said the u.s. recognizes the difficulties ukrainian forces are facing, though, they retain some hope for renewed progress. multiple officials are telling me the approaching fall season when weather and fighting conditions are expected to worsen give ukrainian forces a shrinking window to push forward. here's another issue i hear consistently. western officials say the slow progress exposed the difficulty of transforming ukrainian forces into large combined mechanized fighting units, sometimes with as few as eight weeks of training on western-supplied advanced weapons system, such as an abrams tank. we've been reporting on the storm shadow missile from the uk and it has been effective. again, something ukrainians have to train on.

a senior u.s. military official said the lack of progress on the ground is one reason we've seen ukrainians trying to strike more often inside russian territory to show russian vulnerability. the attack outside moscow was meant to be a visual representation of that. at the start of the offensive, officials say expectations were unrealistic and are contributing to pressure on ukraine from some in the west to begin peace negotiations with russia, although not clear russia is interested. some fear the gap between expectations and results could create divisions within the alliance which has remained largely intact. coming up next, brianna, nearly two kweeryears into the russian invasion. >> we're learning more

information about a russian attack that appeared to target rescue workers. this is drone footage here in a residential area in eastern ukraine. officials say the first missile struck a five-story residential building. while first responders were treating wounded, another missile struck a nearby hotel killing a rescue worker and injuring dozens more, including 31 police officers, 5 civilians and a ukrainian service member also reported killed. the number of first responders killed is staggered. at least 78 so far. 280 wounded according to official counts. nick peyton walsh is live in zaporizhzhia. nick, ukrainian officials are alleging the strikes amount to war crimes. >> reporter: yeah. look, this is a tactic we've

seen russia use. we've seen the syrian regime use it. it's called a double tap. you hit a civilian target and you wait and watch rescue workers flood in. then you hit the same place again to maximize casualties in that initial building and the rescue workers too. we've heard from one of the rescue workers from their hospital bed talking about how he had a punctured lung and was scrambling through the rubble trying to get people out. one of the places impacted here was a hotel which officials say was empty when these two missiles did, indeed, hit. this is frankly something we've seen a lot during this war, this double tap situation. people are constantl constantly

this, that russian want to get the most amount of fear and chaos out of the situation. does it amount to a war crime? many officials say it's the case. >> nick live from zaporizhzhia, thank you. jim? >> as we receive the sobering consequences of the counteroffensive, i want to speak to a retired general. general heardling, good to have you here. what's your assessment right now? ukrainian forces have not advanced as much as they or the west hoped. does that mean they can't or won't? >> absolutely not, jim. i liked your opening commentary. what you said is what many analysts believe, ukraine could not stop russia at the beginning of the war when they were on the

defensive and russia was on the offensive. now the tide has turned. the mission has switched. what the ukrainians are now doing is attempting multiple deliberate attacks on a much larger scale with all the brigades they have as part of the large offensive operation. they're doing it with multiple combat units. estimates say -- unsourced estimates say between 9 and 12 combat arms brigade over a very large area, between 400 and 600 miles or conservatively the distance between washington, d.c. and boston. against an enemy who had eight months to build three extensive belts. this is a tough mission. i was one of those that countered the analysts at the beginning saying ukraine could hold up against russia. i'm also saying there's dire commentary about what's going on now, but what ukraine is attempting is the toughest of all missions and it's going to

take a long time. >> understood. to your point, you're right. there were times earlier when the ukrainians were counted out. this is a different battle than it was around kyiv. around kyiv defended by small mobile ukrainian units, mobile weapons systems like the javelin. this is a grinding war on flat land in the east, as you note, highly defended. is it just a matter of time in your view that you believe these ukrainian units can break through or is there a missing piece? is there a tactile change? is there a weapons change that's necessary? >> no. i think a lot of people will say we have to give them more. that's certainly true in terms of what the west and especially the united states is providing. what you're talking about, jim, is the ukrainian army is changing their way of war. they still have a lot of post-soviet biases from their time working as part of the russian military. they have to break that.

the russian way of war is a lot of artillery strikes as we've seen the russians do in this campaign. we're attempting to help the ukrainians to undertake that transformation of using forces in a different way. it's going to be hard and unfortunately, jim, i'll go back to what i said earlier. what the mission they are attempting is the toughest one of all. i've trained on this kind of mission as tank brigade commander. i failed miserably multiple times in training operations. i can't imagine when you're talking about real bullets and real casualties how tough it is for ukraine. they're pulling forces back. some of the commanders are saying let's stop this mission. at our national training center we could call end of mission and give an aar of what people did wrong. in combat, you can't do the same thing. >> there's been a lot of common

analysis, when i speak to folks in europe and here, about the lack of air support that the ukrainian units have. russia maintaining an advantage there. ukrainian units are basically operating on the ground often without air cover. would that be -- could that be, as you know there's been a lot of debate about f-16s, could that addition make a significant difference there? >> yeah, jim, i'm going to go out on a ledge and say probably not right now. eventually the ukrainian military can build a combined arms joint force with air coordinating with the ground. what we've seen even in the ground campaign is ukraine has accepted a bunch of equipment. they had relatively few weeks to train on that equipment. they tried to put it together. now we're talking about air ground coordination.

that's a whole different ball game and is phd level warfare to be honest. would a modern air force help? it certainly would. unfortunately that also takes time, not just to train pilots -- that's been the issue. it only takes a couple months to train a pilot. yeah, but it takes longer to get interaction between the ground, the air, the support and the ability to hit targets either in the air or on the ground through things like joint tactical air controllers. russia does not have air superiority right now. they are not going forward on the russian frontline because they're afraid of ukrainian air defense. ukraine would have the same situation because russia air defense and their electronic warfare is very good. >> both sides reluctant to put

too many aircraft in the hair. general, thanks for joining us. >> my pleasure. president biden is in arizona today. i feel like we are too. next hour he is going to be designating a national monument and announcing new funding at one of the seven wonders of the world, the grand canyon, and the monuments designation makes good on calls from tribal leaders and environmentalists who have advocated for protections for 1 million acres that surround the grand canyon. let's talk about this now with cnn's chief climate correspondent bill weir. tell us about these protections and what they'll do. >> if you think it's impressive on your monitor, you should see it in person, brianna. >> i have. >> reporter: we have to settle for that today. the president is close by, just south of the rim today. this is sacred land to the

native americans, to conservations who have said we should limit uranium mining there. a lot of these regulations are inactive. it brings up an interesting tension about honoring native americans who have been supportive of president biden, especially in arizona. this movement, 75% approval in arizona. people like this. it's the minerals needed for the new electronic age, transitioning away from fossil fuels. that demands more copper and lithium. there's a copper mine in arizona, a lithium mine in northern nevada. for now, with deb haaland, the secretary of the interior, this is a big win for folks. >> yeah, and a beautiful area that we're seeing here.

in the best way possible for right now, bill weir, thank you so much. jim? warrants out in an official news conference set for the top of the hour on that ugly riverfront brawl in alabama. the fight appearing at times to break along racial lines. what police are saying. plus, the battle heats up over a proposed protective order in the election meddling case. trump's lawyers say it would violate his first amendment rights. the doj says trump wants to try the case in the court of public opinion. the deadline is moments from now. florida governor ron desantis made another big change as he continues to trail trump by a wide margin. those details and much more ahead on "cnn news c central." r. ♪

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attacking a man just doing his job. >> it's an unfortunate incident. we're investigating it right now. we'll continue to go through the process before we take additional steps. >> reporter: it began when the black employee was trying to clear the dock space for the riverside cruise. the cruiser was about to return to shore and needed its space to dock. >> just doing his job and for some reason they didn't like it. they didn't want to move the boat. he decided to get physical with him. >> reporter: you can see in the video the black employee on the dock arguing with one of the men from the pontoon boat and another shirtless white man charging at the employee and hitting him in the face. soon after, you can see several others join in on the attack of the dock employee. some of the video, which has gone viral with millions of views, people on the boat can be heard yelling for someone to help the employee. then at one point you can see a

young man who jumped off the boat swimming ashore to help the man being attacked. >> the boat got closer. the guy and everybody got off. that's when it happened. that's the reason why when they got off the boat they came to the smaller boat. >> reporter: that's when more fighting ensues turning into an all-out brawl that had several people getting hit over the head with a folding chair. officers started to handcuff people. >> they were the antagonists. arrest them. unfortunately when things happen people of color are the first to be put in handcuffs. >> reporter: many questions remain about melee that appeared to be very much split across racial lines. >> we're fully engaged and doing our due dilegance.

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could be taking a new turn. a federal grand jury is meeting for the first time since handing down the indictment alleging the former president conspired to undermine the 2020 election. it's happening on the same day both sides face a deadline on what evidence they can discuss. special counsel jack smith wants a protective order to help keep trump from making evidence public. the defense says the order is too broad and points out, quote, in a trial about first amendment rights the government seeks to restrict first amendment rights. judge tanya chutkan gave lawyers until 3:00 p.m. eastern today to offer times for a hearing to hash out the dispute. she's doing this as her own security is getting beefed up. kaitlan poland is outside district court today. grand jury meeting again today. it's tuesday. they meet tuesday and thursday. do we know if they're meeting about the trump case?

>> reporter: well, jim, that's quite a possibility in that this grand jury is the grand jury that seems to be almost exclusively working with special counsel's office. our colleagues have seen one of the prosecutors from the special counsel's office here today and are able to confirm that grand jury that returned the indictment against donald trump, they have convened today. they've been inside for several hours now. grand juries, they have a lot of work to get through. they talk to witnesses. they hear information from investigators. they gather evidence. they work with the prosecutors. not every day they meet means there's going to be an indictment. what it means is that the special counsel investigation still is ongoing and they could be considering asking this grand jury to approve additional indictments. part of the reason we know that

is that bernie carrick, a close associate of rudy giuliani, after the 2020 election was working on gathering evidence for fraud, he was in the office yesterday speaking to investigators for five hours, making it clear there are still questions about rudy giuliani, one of the men not named by name, but as a conspirator in the trump case, but not charged. we'll have to see what today brings and other days in the future. >> we have this ongoing dispute about putting in a protective order to do something that is standard. we should say it's standard to have the sides not reveal in public evidence shared between the parties through discovery of documents. how much longer before a judge makes a decision on this? >> reporter: well, we've

probably -- will be ready to hear a decision, or at least get a little more insight into what the judge is thinking by the end of the week. the deadline that has been set out already is that by 3:00 today there has to be a proposal for when the parties can come together, the prosecutors and trump's lawyers, when they can appear before judge chutkan. she wants a hearing by the end of the week. what's in dispute, they aren't that far apart, the prosecutors and defense lawyers, on what to do with sensitive information that the prosecutors might hand over to trump's team before the trial. there are a lot of things that both sides have said they're arguing, that they want the judge to weigh in on. trump's team is saying he doesn't want all the information the justice department sends over to be locked down and he wants to claim free speech.

>> thanks so much. brianna? let's talk about this with cnn legal analyst elliot williams who led the justice department as deputy attorney general. what kind of evidence are we talking about here and what could the chilling effect be on witnesses if trump put this out there publicly? >> protective orders are not uncommon. you try to limit who has access to evidence and information. judges don't like restricting the speech of parties or defendants. the problem here is you have a party who has attacked prosecutors, judges, his own vice president, cabinet members, members of congress and on down. the question is how do you based on the past conduct of a defendant handle the future handling of evidence in a case. it's going to be hard for the judge to do. it's going to have a serious impact on the outcome of the

case. >> you can't ignore what he does puts folks in danger. >> it could. if you take the president's truth, the statement that if you come after me, i'm coming after you, if that were not a former president of the united states and were a drug dealer making that statement, he would be behind bars at this point. the idea that people aren't threatened by these statements is foolish. >> the judge has to be prepared for the real possibility that even with restrictions on what trump can or cannot share that he's not going to abide by those. what does she do? >> it's tricky. like i said, you're talking about the past conduct of the defendant, not what he's done in the future. as of right now donald trump or his team have not mishandled evidence. what you're dealing with is governing how you handle the evidence? >> does she fine him? >> she could. >> or jail time, it's hard to imagine jail time being a

consequence. >> it is. there is criminal contempt. you could put a defendant who stepped out of line behind bars. you would probably assess fines on him or his attorneys. the problem is when you have a billionaire that's a defendant, what's the event of any sort of reasonable fine? >> trump can talk to his lawyers all he wants about the case. public speech as you mentioned is limited all the time in cases like this. we know that, to protect the legal process, to keep people safe in some cases. where is the line with the first amendment here? >> the line with the first amendment is you can't make statements that are threats or criminal. now, i think the former president's correct in that he ought to be able to talk to his attorneys and people working with his defense team. that's not unreasonable. it's maybe something they'll come to an agreement on. the idea of putting evidence out into the public that might jeopardize law enforcement sources is something that a

court can limit. >> the grand jury is still at work here. very clearly we have to be about that. they're in today. we know that bernie carrick, a close associate of the former president was asked about rudy giuliani yesterday by investigators in the special counsel's office. when might we see some of these unindicted alleged co-conspirators be indicted? >> every person that gets indicted, if they get joined into the president's case could slow that case down. the simple fact is they're identified as co-conspirators. it's a reasonable possibility that some get indicted. the grand jury is still working and they can still bring charges as long as the statute of limitations hasn't run out. >> elliot, thank you so much. jim? the shakeup inside ron desantis' struggling presidential campaign continues. he is now replacing his campaign manager after months of sinking

polls. cnn's steve contourno joins us now. steve, what changes can we expect from this? >> reporter: this is a move that governor desantis has resisted for weeks. i was talking to people close to his campaign a couple weeks ago who felt that his campaign manager was safe because she had the trust of the governor, but also because the optics of this kind of move are damaging for a campaign. you don't change your quarterback in the middle of the game if the game plan is going well. it hasn't been going well. the polling has been troubling. the fund-raising is not at the level they expected and the message has been inconsistent. now governor desantis is turning to another trusted adviser. james altmeyer to run his c cam

campaign. i'm told he's trusted within the governor's inner circle. it's a tough inner circle to break, but james has had the ear of the governor. he's been the architect of some of the crucial moves desantis has made as governor. now he comes to the campaign trail. it's unclear what changes we can expect. james doesn't have any experience running a presidential campaign. that's been one of the knocks on the political operation of the governor to date. he has not surrounded himself with seasoned veterans. as they move to this next stage of the campaign, it will be interesting to see how they turn a new leaf and get by this reset they've been going through. >> an oftentimes when you see changes, they're for a reason. steve, thanks so much for covering. coming up, we're getting a better idea of how inflation has impacted americans as credit card debt hits an unprecedented

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for the first time in history credit card debt for americans has hit $1 trillion, to be exact $1.3 trillion. that big number made public as consumers brace for another potential rate hike as policy makers try to keep inflation in check. richard quest is here to break it all down. it's a large number, especially when you think of the interest rates folks pay on credit card debt.

>> it's the canary in the mine if you will, jim, that things are not good because it's up 4.6% just on the quarter. when you think about credit card debt and higher interest rates, you have two options that people can basically follow. number one, they stop spending because they can no longer spend on their credit cards. they've maxed out. in that case the economy slows down and the consumer gets exhausted. number two, the higher interest rate that's requiring greater payments, that takes money out of discretionary spending and that slows down the economy. whichever way you look at this, the effective higher balances on credit cards means a slower economy in the future. there's one other piece of news to bring you, jim. the economy is like a jig saw puzzle. it's a series of different individual pieces that together create a picture.

the first piece we got was on the credit card, but also the number of people taking money out of their 401(k) retirement plans for hardship reasons. now, that is very significant because that means they're prepared to have short-term gain against long-term retirement costs. they may have no choice, but, jim, taken together these are telling us that the picture is getting cloudy. >> that's a step that financial advisers will say only do in the most extreme circumstances. i was thinking about that trillion dollar figure, credit card interest rates often above 20%. you're looking at $200 billion in interest a year on that credit card debt. richard quest, always good to have you on. >> thank you, sir. coming up, the supreme court stepping in and allowing new regulations on ghost guns with two conservative justices joining the court's three

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singer, songwriter and activist sinead o'connor. she died last month at the age of 56. her funeral procession passing by her old home in ireland. friends and fellow musicians bob geldoff attended her funeral. deadly storms knocked out power and damaged home and businesses in the u.s. 400 flight cancellations, 3,000 delays today. the national weather service reports more storms are coming for the plains, the southeast and new england. it is sum juror and there's still a chance the mega millions jackpot is now a staggering $1.6 billion. for that you can buy a lot of stuff, like 1.3 million taylor swift tickets. brianna, is that how you would spend it? >> i know that's exactly what you would buy, jim. i know that. just into cnn, the supreme court has just revived a federal

restriction on so-called ghost guns, untraceable homemade weapons. this at least temporarily. the biden administration asking the court to keep these regs in place while these legal challenges play out. we have cnn's supreme court analyst joan biskupic joining us in studio and cnn's josh campbell in los angeles for us. josh, explain what a ghost gun is and how commonly we see them used. >> reporter: brianna, these are essentially kits containing parts that can be assembled into a fully functioning firearm. you think of hobbyists who buy parts for model airplanes, there are actually parts you can buy online and then make your own gun. the problem for law enforcement, of course, is that these are often untraceable, they don't contain serial numbers. now, back in 2022, last year, the atf, which oversees firearms enforcement, they updated their regulations essentially defining a ghost gun as a firearm. that was followed by lots of litigation, a federal judge in

texas had ruled that the biden administration had overstepped its bounds in issuing those new regulations and of course the breaking news today the supreme court now freezing that lower court's order which will allow these biden administration regulations to continue against ghost guns as all of these legal challenges play out. >> all right. joan, this vote, pretty interesting, 5-4 and tell us about the sort of strange bedfellows here. >> sure. it was a surprise to an extent and i will explain exactly why i think it came out this way. first of all, you had chief justice john roberts a conservative and justice amy coney barrett president trump's third appointees joining the three liberals on the court. consenters were thomas, alito and cavanaugh. chief justice john roberts often does move over to the left, especially as a preliminary stage of litigation like this, but justice barrett was a little bit more of a surprise.

she hasn't normally done that but in a few cases in the recently completed term she did edge a little bit to the center and i think she is also trying to show that she's taking an approach that isn't always going to be in lockstep with her brethren on the right wing. but this is what i want to caution our audience is that this is a very preliminary stage of this dispute. we don't have any kind of ruling on the merits left -- as yet and all the supreme court has done is say just wait, let the dispute play out. it heeded the solicitor general's argument here on behalf of the biden administration that ghost guns are causing an explosion in crime, there's a real public safety issue here. you know, just keep everything in place while the litigation proceeds. one last thing i want to mention is that the ruling itself came from an individual texas judge, it was allowed to stand, the

lower court ordered that -- that blocked the federal regulation was from a texas judge and then it was -- that order was reinforced to an ex at any time by the fifth circuit. i think this supreme court is showing more and more impatience and scrutiny of individual judges and especially the fifth circuit in some of its rulings saying, look, you're going too fast, too far. let's go at this slower, and i don't know if in the very end chief justice john roberts and justice amy coney barrett will side with the biden administration and its defense of this important regulation, but at least it's indicating that it wants to first hear all the arguments before any radical change is made. >> it will be interesting to see if they are essentially putting the judges on notice with this. josh, this comes as the supreme court -- you've seen the court grappling with a number of important firearm-related cases. >> no, that's right, and much of that stemmed from that landmark decision last year with this

case involving the state of new york which was a major win for gun rights activists. of course, gun safety activists condemned that decision. one of the main take a ways was the court saying any modern day gun reform legislation must face a historical test. was the law that was in place now in place at the time of the founding of the nation and that has caused a lot of confusion among the courts, including issues like domestic violence. there have been issues about whether people involved domestic violence restraining orders can actually maintain guns, whereas there was not actually a domestic violence violence at the founding of the country. so that has caused a lot of chaos. a lot of different decisions we're seeing courts across the country continue to grapple with, that means that court watchers like our friend joan biskupic will have a lot to focus on in the months ahead as these cases play out. >> always busy. josh, joan, thank you to both of you. jim? officials in alabama giving an update on that huge brawl on

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