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good evening, i'm laura coates. thank you for joining me this friday evening. tonight, donald trump is on some thin ice. in the first hearing with the judge in his third indictment, the one over election interference, she warned the former president about his rhetoric and his agreement, by the way, not to intimidate witnesses in order to stay a free man. but she also favored some of the arguments by his attorneys, for example, on whether evidence can be discussed publicly. more on that whole dramatic courtroom scene in just a moment. first, hunter biden. he's likely going to trial. attorney general merrick garland effectively appointed a special counsel in the guns and taxes investigation of the president's son. you'll recall there was a plea deal, and it also recently broke down. and we've talked about the questions surrounding how that could have happened. even a judge that questioned the terms of the agreement with the doj. before we get to all of that
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analysis, you're probably thinking, wait a second, laura, another special counsel? yep. this would be the third all at once for the first time in history. i want to remind everyone for a second what the threshold is to get to a special counsel. it's not ruft mill, it's not an every day or every administration thing. among the grounds, number one, is it wid is it warranted? is the investigation itself worthy enough to have something so deliberate and extreme? is there a conflict of interest, the second point of inquiry? also, does the public have a special interest in knowing, or something more? when those three criteria are all on a collision course, then meet, then you have the special counsel. but the real question that everyone's asking is, why exactly did merrick garland decide to do this now? and maybe more importantly, since he was involved in the questionable plea agreement and
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offer that imploded, why did david weiss ask for this now? huge question everyone's asking at this moment in time. cnn's political correspondent sara murray, walk us through the special counsel now appointed to investigate hunter biden, and the name is the same. sarah, how did it get to this point? >> it really is that spectacular implosion you were talking about of the hunter biden plea deal. remember, he walked into court a few weeks ago ready to plead guilty to two tax misdemeanors and take a diversion program on a gun charge. but there was this disagreement over what kind of immunity hunter biden was actually getting as part of this deal. we learned that behind the scenes, that disagreement was not resolved between hunter biden's team and david weiss. and david weiss decided, look, we're going to move ahead, we are going to go to trial. he went to attorney general merrick garland and sought this special counsel status so he can bring charges in other
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jurisdictions, washington, d.c. or california, something he would have had to get partners to do as the u.s. attorney in delaware. of course that doesn't answer all the questions about why we're in this special counsel situation. merrick garland said today these are extraordinary circumstances, as they are when the sitting president's son is being investigated. but again, we've heard from whistle-blowers who have questioned whether there was political favoritism in this case. a lot of what we've heard today from merrick garland and david weiss does not answer many of the questions about why it took to this point for weiss to be named a special counsel, and whether this is simply did bringing charges against hunter biden and moving to trial in different jurisdictions or whether there's more that david weiss wants to investigate. >> sara murray, thank you so much. i want to bring in former federal prosecutors joseph more rare i don't and an cure ka dory. oops glad both of you are here tonight. first of all, if you were hunter biden, you're looking at your attorneys and probably saying to yourself, what happened from the time that we thought we had a
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plea deal, everything signed, sealed, delivered, it was mine, to this point in time? and now you've got the special counsel. the wig question everyone's asking is, why do you think this happened now? is it appropriate, do you think, that merrick garland has appointed david weiss to really elevate him to that special counsel status? what do you think? >> i mean, i think it was the best of a bunch of bad options. frankly, i used to cringe when the white house press secretary would say that david weiss is independent. because look, that might be very well the case, and i have no reason to say it's not. but there's a simple way to indicate that independence, and that's designating him as a special counsel. one of the criteria you mentioned, is there a conflict of interest? what more a conflict of interest could you have than when the son of the president is being investigated? so i think it is long overdue. i think it's a good move. i think it deflects a little bit of the criticism. i'm not sure it really makes a difference at this point. might just be form over substance. >> we've all been prosecutors. the notion of independence, hold on, if you're a u.s. attorney,
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aren't you independent? you're the head honcho, the buck stops there? but really, they are answering to the attorney general who is going to not dictate the day to day, but certainly the priorities of the department and going on. but they're much more removed than an appointee. to his larger point, look, this would be as a special counsel, now you get to go outside your jurisdiction. right? this is not just the delaware u.s. attorney any longer. he can bring it other places. they've named already maybe california, maybe washington, d.c. what do you think? >> yeah, you know, the papers they filed in court were surprisingly forward and candid about what happened, what they intend to do. they said in the tax case, plea deal fell apart, we intend to charge this case in california, same charges, maybe more. we think this case is going to trial. and that may not be the last that we hear from the special counsel. right there, you know -- other issues have been floating around, and it's really not clear still to this day whether this investigation is really
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over or not. whether we're at the last stage or whether they're still looking at stuff. >> that was probably the judge's moment, right? when this whole thing immoded? to say in the courtroom, you haven't actually realized whether this is going to be a 360, conclude every investigation? that was part of the holdup. listen to what hunter biden's attorneys had to say earlier on our airwaves about this idea of, i wonder if something else is coming into play. listen. >> after five years of what has to be one of the most thorough investigations that office has ever done, started by a republican attorney general, given to a republican u.s. attorney, using an experienced career set of prosecutors thought that the only charges that were appropriate would be two misdemeanor failure to file charges and a diverted gun charge for the 11 days that hunter possessed a gun. and that was after five years of a painstaking investigation.
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so whatever his title is and whatever happens next, we're confident that should be the same conclusion. if it's not, then something other than the facts and the law has come into play. >> i mean, he's more than intimating the potential impact of politics. we've seen many people question hunter biden. the term "sweetheart deal" has come up so often, it's almost become synonymous with the conversation. do you think politics has come into play here in a significant way for his decision to elevate him? >> look, abbe lowell is very well respected in the white collar community. of course he's going to advocate for his qulint. but don't take my word for it. i mean, this looked lenient going into that plea agreement meeting. but the judge herself kicked it out. she asked the prosecutor, apparently on the spot, have you ever done anything like this before? the prosecutor had to admit, no, i haven't. so i think they went too far.
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i think they should have been prepared to answer questions. they were clearly unprepared to answer. so you asked what do you think hunter biden, what was going through his head? probably frustrated because clearly his ron artest and the prosecutors were not ready to answer the judge's skeptical questions. that's when she said, i'm not comfortable with this. >> it was a remarkable hearing. the issues that came up were predictable, right? and we are all familiar with plea hearings that fall apart. they don't ever, in my humble experience, fall apart on legal issues that the lawyers could have anticipated. it's usually because a defendant can't get around to aloecuting or whatever. obviously politically charged given the nature of the defendant. i tend to still put a fair amount of faith into merrick garland to make these decisions without wanting to influence the national political scene. i still sort of hold that precept position.
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i wrote a profile of him for "politico" earlier this year where i spend time talking to his colleagues and clerks and stuff. that stuck with me. you can make -- question his judgment. i think it has not been great, the way this has been handled over time. i don't think it's really about helping joe biden as a political matter, though. >> the political cynics among us might say, bless your heart. everyone stand by. also in d.c. today, a hearing over the special counsel's request for a protective order. this is a different special counsel, by the way, now, in the trump election interference case. it was, well, called a mixed bag for team trump. let's go to justice correspondent jessica schneider. jessica, what's the latest? >> yeah, laura, this. >>ing a brothis isn't as broad protective order. this includes details about the grand jury process, also about search warrant, it also says when trump use views this
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information, he can't have his phone or any recording device when he's without his lawyer. included in this discovery is 11.6 million pages of documents. even recordings of witness interviews. trump can't share or post any of it. and the judge here said she will be watching, and she warned that if trump or his team talked too publicly about this case, she's going to be forced to move even more quickly to a trial to ensure a fair jury pool. and it's a speedy timeline that trump and his team definitely don't want. >> jessica, thank you. thank you so much. interesting, back at the table right now, the warning was, look, if you want to keep talking about about it, you think you can't get a fair trial, you can't to air it in the court of public opinion, we're going to have the trial that much sooner. be careful what you wish for, i might give you precisely what you're asking for. what did you think of that? >> i've been a defense counsel, i've had difficult clients. i can only imagine how frustrating it must be to have a client like donald trump who just cannot be contained.
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he's his worst enemy. i actually think the hearing was generally positive for him, i think the judge gave him a lot of latitude saying only highly sensitive topics you can't share. i think it's going to be extremely difficult for him to control himself. we've seen defendants awaiting trial who get their liberties revoked because they do things like say things that could be construed as intimidating conditionses or trying to taint a jury pool. usually they're not a former president running again for president. >> with this platform or the megaphone that he'll have. on the other hand, let's flip that around, because maybe if you're his defense counsel, you want him talking, you want to muddy the waters, you want to be able to try to suggest this is political speech. what is a candidate to do besides criticize what he perceives might remove him from the campaign trail? >> yeah, look, he is a singular defendant in this regard. his ability to speak in a mass way to all of america allows him to do a couple of things.
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both advance his campaign along this theory. of course, if he wins re-election, manages to get the nomination and beat joe biden, he can shut all of this down in office. it also allows him to speak to prospective jurors, which is not impactful necessarily in d.c. where the composition of the voter pool is much more favorable to biden than trump as in florida, but i think that's part of what's going on. i thought what the judge did was quite clever. ify if she suggested there would be a gag order coming or she'd revoke or impose harsher conditions on him, that would have caused uproar. instead she said, you know what, if shs are this is your issue, we're going to accelerate the trial. that's something i think will have some effect on him. >> reverse judicial psychology. kind of the mind games that are happening right now. it's interesting. given the fact that this is the third indictment, and obviously one at the state level and two federal, but you've got to
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wonder how precise you'd need to be to be able to connect the dots in such a way that the judge overseeing a particular case would say, ah-ha, you're talking about my case. that statement made on truth social, you must be talking about this one. you almost can imagine the fact-finding mission playing out that way for a judge to have to say, this maybe otherwise vague statement that could apply to all of them applies to this case. i wonder if they're going to figure out what to do next. always a pleasure seeing you on a friday night. i'm glad you're here. i'm not going to butcher your name again, i promise you. ahead, a showdown brewing tonight as republican rivals compete for votes at the iowa state fair. we'll speak with two of the candidates. why one candidate suggests, well, he might drop out even before the debate later this month. . live on the ground in hawaii where the devastation is only getting worse. i mean, look at what we're
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decimated. the mayor says the devastating wildfires have burned lahaina to the ground. at least 67 people are confirmed dead, and the loss of life is expected to grow. it's now the deadliest natural disaster in hawaii state history. rescuers are frantically searching for survivors, and families, they are desperately waiting for news, any news, of missing loved ones. loved ones like tim williams sr., a 66-year-old disabled veteran who has been missing since wednesday. he sent this photo to his family as he was fleeing the flames. it is the last time they heard from him. cnn's bill weir is in maui live. bill, we are watching the devastation. you have surveyed some of the worst-hit areas. how bad is this damage? and where does the search and rescue operation even stand? >> reporter: well, laura, this will rank as one of the worst disasters in american history, not just hawaiian history.
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people here are bracing for that fatality count to jump again here. and the damage to lahaina is just -- it's as bad as you can imagine. it's as bad as paradise, california, the deadliest fire from a few years back. that was a mountain grunt. this is grass, this is invasive grassland that was fueled by these unbelievably punishing winds. turned into a blow torch. was so fast, this is the scene now. they've finally opened up the road to lahaina so people, residents, even tourists who left everything and are going back to get their passports and salvage their things, is just miles long. i think we have a drone shot to give you a sense. this butcher to bumper as maui county is overwhelmed with this disaster. we've heard dozens of sirens. we checked, apparently there's a fatal accident that happened as all of this stressful chaos is unfolding here.
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one more thing to worry about here. but just to answer your question, i will be haunted by the smell, the sight of walking into what was one of the most well-preserved, historic beach towns anywhere in the world. the ground littered with dead birds that just fell from the sky that was on fire. and people really just going through the five stages of grief, trying to figure out what's next. this will affect so many people across maui. because the tourist center on the west side employed so many people from other parts of the island. so we're just sort of getting our arms around the enormity of it right now. >> i'm hearing the sirens in the background. a sight and sound that certainly was not available as people had literally minutes to flee their homes. as you mentioned, the road back open to get there. but so many homes destroyed. what are people supposed to do? are they looking at -- are there other parts of the island, as you mentioned, that have
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employment options and beyond? is there some center? are they get reg leaf? >> reporter: there are shelters. just to start with, there is a sense of sort of community in hawaii that i've found singular around the world. this ohana sense of family. a lot of people are sort of crowdsourcing as they wait for official help from fema which hasn't arrived in force yet. there's a lot of frustration. the governor has mentioned it hopes to build a plan where they will use ab and bs, short-term rentals to house displaced, homeless residents and the state will help behave pay for that. that's good news for people who have nowhere to go right now. but this is massive. we saw the fallout from the camp fire in california after paradise went down, how these climate refugees moved into nearby towns. it affects places there when it comes to social services. so this will have a ripple
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effect for years. i saw one estimate from a company just looking at the satellite photos, well over 1,000 structures burned within the zone around lahaina. over $1 billion of property damage. unfortunately the reality turns out to be a lot costlier on these things. >> a paradise gone. bill weir, thank you so much. stay safe and continue to give us information. for those of you who want more information about how you can help the humanitarian efforts in maui, go to cnn.com/impact. if the republican primary wasn't official already, it certainly is now. the race is in full swing as the candidates descend onto the ohio -- excuse me, iowa state fair. i'll speak with two rivals who are live as voters get ready for donald trump to arrive. >> if trump goes to jail, i'll
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change my mind. >> most people have got their minds made up on it. in my area, it's trump country.
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a show down is brewing tonight as the two front runners so far in the republican primary are facing off in iowa. donald trump and ron desantis at the state fair this weekend trying to shore up support to their campaign along with the entire field as some candidates might need more of a boost to get on to that debate stage that's happening later this month in milwaukee. in about two weeks. i'm joined by the republican mayor of miami and 2024 gop primary candidate mayor francis suarez. nice to see you, mayor. you're in des moines, as so many of the hopefuls are, trying to get the word out about your campaigns and shore up support as well. you were saying today that, look, candidates who don't make this first debate stage should drop out of the race. so far, you have not met the polling threshold. are you intending, if you are unable to do so, to leave the
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race at this juncture? >> i feel very confident that we are going to make the debate stage, that we are going to meet the polling threshold. i'm happy to be in iowa. the first state that qualified me in terms of the poll. and what they want to hear is a plan for american prosperity and freedom, which is what i'm delivering to them. every opportunity that i have to speak to the american people, like right now on your show, is an opportunity for me to convince them that i am the right person to lead that country so when they get that phone call, they can vote for francis suarez, to give me an opportunity to continue to deliver this message nationally, to introduce myself to the country, understanding i'm probably one of the least known of the top finn candidates who hopefully will be on that debate stage. >> the race is widening, as you well know. when you talk about the more exposure you get, people to understand your message and platform and candidacy, there is a specific candidate you think you could peel support from, somebody who you're looking at
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in this field in particular that's just not meeting it for you? >> i think what the american people are deciding right now is, do they want a repeat of the 2020 election? if the answer to that question is no, then you have to choose someone else on the republican side. the question then becomes, who gets volume? who breaks out? i think the republican party who's not the former president is now sort of seeing a reshuffling. starting to see my governor lose momentum. we're starting to see other candidates grow. so my hope is i can become one of those candidates. that once i'm given the opportunity on the debate stage to tell the story to the nation, i'll qualify for the second debate and gradually grow until i get to the point i grow exponentially and become a real option for the american people. >> mayor, there's something about florida. three candidates out of florida hoping to are the rnc nominee. are you concerned, given the fact that governor ron desantis, who before his candidacy was actually announced, he was viewed as a prospective
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front-runner. as you say, the campaign's in decline for a number of issues, i suppose. are you concerned there will be an attachment to him with you as also elected official in florida? >> not at all. and the reason why is because i've done radically different things. i've been the only candidate to cut a public sector budget by the same amount we have to cut the federal budget. i'm the only candidate that's lowered taxes in miami to the lowest level in history, unprecedented growth. 14% last year. 12% the year before. that's four times what the state of florida has grown. we've kept our city safe. so many cities that i visited across america as president of the u.s. conference of mayors in this presidential candidacy are concerned about homelessness, concerned about rising crime. they're concerned about fentanyl, which is coming in through our southern border that i was at this week. >> and all those issues are part of what your opponents are hoping to tackle as well in their own campaigns and their
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own candidacy. i do wonder in terms of distinguishing features in particular this notion as you well know, this rnc pledge that is a part of being able to get on that stage, top of mind for a lot of people as a kind of loyalty test to whoever the republican nominee will be, it's become kind of a litmus test. i'm wondering, do you intend, knowing a few of your opponents, including desantis, they have signed the gop loyalty pledge to be on the debate stage. trump said he would not. does the pledge matter to you if trump is not even on board in signing it? every candidate is not signing it? >> look, i like to follow the rules. i've said from the beginning that i'm going to follow the rules. i followed the rules on the number of contributions, whether they be statewide or whether they be national. i followed the rules with respect to the pledge. those are the rules set by the republican party. i'm not setting those rules but i will follow them. i hope to be on that debate
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stage. i know i will be, if given the chance. i'm going to be a candidate that's going to gain momentum and it's going to start right here, right now. >> as you can imagine, a big topic among the republican candidates have been weaponization of the federal government. as you know today, a special counsel was appointed now or elevated in david weiss to now cover the hunter biden investigation. that seems to be a very big focus, republicans at least on the hill and beyond. what do you say to this new development? is this something that you believe should be the focus going into this campaign? >> score another victory for washington dominating the presidential political news cycle for yet another day. the only prosecution that i want to talk about is how we prosecute a plan for american prosperity to benefit the american people. that's what i've been focused on. that's what my campaign is. that's what my legacy as mayor has been. reducing taxes. having the area with the highest wage growth and lowest unemployment and highest tech job growth. as we enter into a new era in
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this country where tech economy is going to be part of our gdp, we need a candidate who can take advantage of a generational tsunami of opportunity. i'm the only one that's done that and the only one that can do it for our country. >> mayor francis suarez, good luck at the state fair. there's a lot of thing on this the stick and fried. good luck to you. >> 18,000 steps in today, laura, thanks a lot. >> 18,000, that will counter at least one fried dough elephant ear. good for you. thank you. >> fried oreos yeah. >> you're talking my language. thank you, mayor, nice to see you. >> thank you, laura. next, live with another candidate, one who's trying to make a name for himself in iowa. a businessman, a pastor, what he makes of the recent claim that trump supporters think the teach actions of jesusre too woke. developing tonight, have you seen this on social media?
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i was talking to miami mayor francis suarez, one of the many gop hopefuls campaigning in iowa today. my next guest as lesser-known candidate, ryan bankly. he joined the race in anseling a very different message than his opponents. unlike others in the field, his first shot at politics is his current bid for the white house. the entrepreneur from texas is the founder and lead pastor of create church near dallas. he's used millions of his own dollars to invest in his campaign and says that his mission is to unite the country with the love of god. he also joins me now. ryan, thank you so much for
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being here. i'm glad to see you. i know you've got the iowa state fair in the background, and probably a very long day behind and ahead of you. i wonder, for many people who are meeting you for the first time or learning more about you, how do you intend to stand out among this already crowded field? >> well, thank you, laura. first of all, thanks for having me here. i'm a ceo of generational group. we're a financial investment bank, about 400 employees, and i'm a boss for as you mentioned. this is the way i see our country right now. we've never been in greater need of an economic revival, and truly a heartfelt spiritual revival in our country than we do right now. we are so divided. we've never been more divided in my lifetime. i'm speaking about four key issues that are really resonating with iowans, people in new hampshire, all over america because they're real solutions. we've had failed messages out there for so long that have divided our country. and america wants to see us come back together to solve our
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biggest problems. whether that be our budget, whether that be urban america, renewal education, now today the border, all problems with immigration and the crisis at the border. coming up with real solutions that matter to everyone, whether you're independent, republican, or democrat. that's where we're leading today, and it's resonating. >> let's start with that area. you are from texas. all eyes have been on the border for quite some time. let's start in unpacking that area. in difficult news we're learning tonight a 3-year-old migrant died on a bus to chicago, showing in part just how awful all of the crisis has been. of course, the journey that many are facing. i know you're taking a very different approach than most hardliner republicans when it comes to immigration and the border. what is your policy position? >> well, we have a huge crisis on so many levels. humanitarian crisis, as you stated, at many levels with people coming across. human trafficking at an all-time
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high on the southern border. right now, fentanyl. fentanyl's the number one killer of youth, 18 to 45. it's time that republicans and democrats get together now and fix this border crisis issue once and for all. we launched a bipartisan thought process two months ago when we launched, then i found congresswoman maria salazar's dignity act, an incredible act. we are supporting it 100%, and here's why. because it secures the border fully from california to texas. it allows us to have so many great things that republicans and democrats need, but also treats with compassion the people that have come across our border 20, 30 years ago. people that have been working here. provides a workforce solution that truly meets the work needs of our country and treats them with dignity. it's not amnesty but it allows us to meet the needs of this country. i it's time to stop kicking the
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can and solve this problem together. >> i want to ask you about a conversation i recently had. this was with the christianity today editor russell moore who is an evangelical. he was warning that christianity itself is in crisis, saying also that evangelicals at times are viewing jesus' preachiness as liberal. listen to the sound bite so you can respond. >> multiple pastors tell me essentially the same story, about quoting the seon on the mount parenthetically in their preaching. turn t other cheek. to have someone come up after and say, where did you get those liberal talking points? what was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios when the pastor would say "i'm literally quoting jesus christ," the response would not be, "i apologize." the response would be, "yes, but that doesn't work anymore, that's weak." >> you are the founder and lead pastor of create church in texas. do you agree with what moore had
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to say? are you seeing this among your own congregants, people you're speaking with, that this is this association with the preachings, the teachings of jesus? >> well, i'll just say this. first and foremost, the teachings of jesus are accurate, and they are not weak. and if they are weak, then count me in that weakness. jesus had the best truth for us all. he's the way, the truth, and the life. and you know what his main message was? love our neighbor. this is what we have to do today. we have to end this division we've been in so long. america has never been at this place like we are in my lifetime, where we're so divided. to really we want to see the other party fail. we are in such a place. it's going to take leadership to speak to this. as president, that's what i will do, first and foremost. tell america, let's be americans first. after all, as christians, we should believe this. we all come from the same father. so regardless of whether we're right, left, democrat, republican, independent, which 49% of america is independent now, we need to see each other
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as the same family and treat each other that way. when we do, we'll have the culture of our country back. it's time to lead again. lead with integrity, lead with truth, lead with love to solve our crisis problems, connect to the poor, connect to the young. this is about the next generation, and they're tired of seeing us fight like this. all over iowa talking to young people, i'm telling them, i'm in this race for you, it's for the next generation. they want to see this type of change. jesus had the right words and we need to stick by them. >> as you well know, we have no official religion in this country, and this country contains many religions, quite broad. does your message resonate with those who do not believe in christianity or do not follow the teachings of jesus christ? >> absolutely. you know, i really believe this, that jesus' main message was to love your neighbor. regardless if you have faith in christ or no faith at all or regardless of what religion, i love this concept that i think we could all agree, when we see the most hurting in society,
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those that are poor, many times the immigrant, those that are elderly, those that are in the most need, we need to be connecting to them. that's the main message. i believe that is the main message that i want to share, that jesus shared. regardless of your faith, we need to have more love, love the hurting in our country. that, i believe, all of us should be able to agree with that. >> ryan binkly, nice speaking with you tonight, thank you so much. >> so great to be with you, laura, thank you very much, god bless, have a great evening. >> thank you. up next, everyone, 50 years. can you believe it? 50 years of hip-hop. from old-school classics to modern hits, how the art form went from the streets of the bronx to one of the popular music genres in the entire world. ♪ ♪
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♪ well, it's hip hop's birthday, everyone, because 50 years ago today a party in the south bronx marked the beginning of this new global genre that's become a central part of our culture. and cnn's sarah snider is here with me now to tease what's coming up later on her show. sarah, great to see you. i have to know waiting for your segment to start, but who are your favorite hip hop artists of all-time? this is everyone's conversation today. >> it's really hard because i
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could go on for like two hours, but i'll tie to make it short. queen latifah. missy elliot, is it worth it, let me work it. ll cool jay, his hard as battle anybody, i don't care you tell. >> first of all, those are all phenomenal, and now every single song wul be stuck in my head. i'll give you my list, and because my husband is from the bronx, here's my list. and i'm going to quote, we had a discussion, laura, there's no right answer to this question, you cannot get this wrong because no one outside the bronx bureau can be wrong on this. there you go. i can't tell you all my top tonight but they're all like tupac. >> we're still looking for that
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connection, man, you know? and he had such poetic. that's going to hurt your husband, though, because he's not from, you know. >> what can you do, you know what i mean? it's happy wife, happy life. >> i have a little fact that may not make you happy. there's missy right there, just incredible. >> that makes me happy. >> so get this, i just learned this. aarp presents a virtual concert with who? doug e. fresh. that is how old hip hop is because aarp is getting into the game. it was my very first record i ever got. >> that's just people who are young at heart. i'm going to take that totally differently, okay? you know why? because my son who's 10 years old is now finding all these play lists, remember the old cd collection? i've still got mine with the
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now, imagine performing this very common chore of taking out the trash and then minutes later you find yourself in handcuffs? that seems to be what happened in the video that's now gone viral. and here's an image from the video. it shows a black teenager being detained outside his own residents by a lancing, michigan, police officer, a man who claimed to be the teen's father came out of his home to then engage the officer. the boy was eventually uncuffed and released. the police department has since put out a statement apologizing saying the boy was, quote, wearing similar clothing in the same apartment complex as an accused car thief who fled from officers on foot, unquote. they release this photo showing both the suspect and the boy mistakenly detained. the police chief went onto say, quote, i want to apologize that
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this incident had such an effect on this young man and his family, unquote. everyone, thank you for watching. "cnn tonight" with sara snider starts right now. hey, sara. take it away. >> tgif. thank you so much, laura. all right, good evening to you. i'm sarah snider and this is "cnn tonight." there are significant developments in major legal cases involving former president donald trump and hunter biden. the u.s. attorney investigating president biden's son is elevated to special counsel status after plea talks broke down and a possible trial looms. and the judge in former president trump's election subversion case is issuing a protective order, barring trump from publicly disclosing sensitive information she says his right to free speech is not absolute. the extent of the destruction from the catastrophic wildfires in hawaii starting to become more clear

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