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donald trump, now has ten days to surrender to authorities in georgia on charges tied to his efforts to overturn the 2020 election in georgia. it will be his fourth time booked on criminal charges. he won't be alone. the 98-page indictment names 18 co-defendants, including his former chief of staff, mark meadows. the 41 charges include racketeering and conspiracy. the atlanta area district attorney fani willis says those

19 defendants in total plotted against the constitution which trump swore to protect and defend and abused the office, trump is of course running for once again. cnn's paula reed is at the courthouse in atlanta. paula, this case is wider both in terms of number of defendants but also took a different legal path for charging this. >> reporter: that's right. a lot of key differences here. not only in how it's constructed. fani willis pursuing a racketeering or rico case here. rico laws were passed to dismantle organized crime. so she's charging former president trump but 18 allies. that's another key difference. for the first time, people like rudy giuliani and mark meadows are facing charges for their involvement in efforts to overturn the election.

rudy giuliani was, of course, co-conspirator number one in the federal indictment. but mark meadows said was at the heart of it, saying all roads went through mark meadows. he was conspicuously absent in the federal indictment, raising questions whether he is cooperating. but here he has been charged, alongside these other 18 defendants. so it's a completely different approach. logistically, it's going to be challenging. she said he wants to try them all together. but right now, these defendants have until next friday at noon to surrender. >> when you look at this case, what we know of the evidence to back up these charges, how much is new as compared to what was uncovered by the special counsel in his own investigation, as well as what the january 6th committee discovered? >> reporter: what's so

significant, jim, is that cnn and other news outlets reported so extensively on these efforts that much of this was already known to us and to the public. of course, the january 6th committee has also investigated this extensively. remember, the federal indictment, the january 6th indictment, didn't have a lot of news, a lot of new details. it's astonishing. she lays out 161 different acts to support her allegations. >> we lost paula reed there. in the midst oh of a heavy rainstorm outside the courthouse there. paula, thanks so much. just a taste of the rainstorm of legal action to come, jessica. >> that's right. the d.a. in that georgia case wants a trial within six months. special counsel jack smith wants his trial to start in january. while trump and allies were focused on responding to the charges today, a co-defendant in

another case, the one involving classified documents, was arraigned in florida. with us now, cnn senior justice correspondent e vavan perez. you have all of these cases lining up. how does it get sorted and what takes precedence? >> the calendar is getting full. you have the two federal indictments, one in florida and one here in washington, but now of course this one. but you also have the criminal cases in new york that the former president has to be involved in. so something is going to have to give. at some point, you'll start seeing perhaps judges ordering everyone to sort of get together and figure out a timeline. not to mention the former president is running for office again. he's trying to do campaign events. and so what we expect is usually, in these types of cases, the federal system takes precedence. it's the superiority of the federal system.

so usually what you would have is certainly the federal case, perhaps the election interference case, which right now the justice department says they want to try to go to trial in january. but that also is running into the election -- i'm sorry, the e. jean carroll defamation case in new york. there is the hush money case in the d.a.'s office in manhattan, that's in march. and then there's the mar-a-lago case -- >> you have the callahan endar front of you. >> we know that some of this is going to slide, and they're going to slide into each other. >> we know that fani willis hasn't said if she's been in touch with the special counsel to sort it out. is that normal, would they do something like that? >> it's not unusual. there's nothing wrong with her and jack smith having a conversation and talking about their separate cases, and where

things might align. one of the interesting things about this is donald trump has made a deal about this, a huge deal deal claiming democrats have been colluding against them. so there's been some sensitivity to not appear that they are working together. that is probably going to have to change at some point. she last night in responding to sarah murray, gave a different answer, as you saw, when she said we're not going to talk about this investigation. i think what we are going to see is that at some point a judge is going to tell the special counsel and fani willis' office you have to figure out some kind of schedule, because both of these cases have to do with the election interference. both of them have an interest in having this done before the 2024 election. it's not clear how both can be done. >> it is a wildly compressed timeline. this is all unfolding if donald trump is running for president in the middle of that calendar.

e van perez, thank you so much. jim? now to our guests. good to have you both gentlemen. thank you for taking the time. giving your work with willis, what should americans expect to see over the coming weeks and months as this trial proceeds? >> i can tell you one thing about d.a. willis, she's thorough. she's extremely thorough. she's going to turn over every stone. she's going to be complete. one thing about her is that if she alleges it, then she fully and completely believes that that is something that she can prove beyond a reasonable doubt. so i expect that this will be a lengthy process and once this gets to trial, it's not going to be a quick trial, because there's going to be so much evidence, so much material. it's going to be extremely voluminous. i know last night, she said she

didn't just throw the book, she threw the library. that is how complete fanni is, ms. willis is, when it comes to her pursuits and pleading her case. >> clark cunningham, there's an enormous amount of evidence that a jury will hear here. one of the most high profile pieces of evidence is the phone call on january 2nd from trump to brad raffensperger, telling him to find the votes, one more than they lost by, to find the votes necessary to overturn the election. legally, what do trump's words on that phone call prove? >> well, the former president insists on calling it a perfect phone call. i don't know why he keeps doing that. i'm sure his lawyers don't think it's a perfect phone call. i've said before, i think it's perfectly incriminating. it was that phone call that got district attorney willis to start the investigative process.

and i really don't see how trump's lawyers are going to effectively defend that phone call. you know, he asks for just enough votes so he can win the election. he suggests to raffensperger to say he can recalculate it after two recounts. how can that be anything other than election fraud? at one point, he says, fellas, give me a break. i think it's just def vastatingf you have to defend that phone call. >> "perfect phone call" is a line that trump used in his first impeachment. we've been hearing not just from the former president, but rudy giuliani speaking moments ago. i want to play this and get your reaction. have a listen. >> they're not the same level of prosecutor smith has. so i don't know where they're

going to go with this. 17 defendants, and you want to try it in six months, are you out of your mind? >> somes like he's taking something of a shot there at the district attorney you worked with before. how do you respond to rudy giuliani? >> i want to laugh, first of all. i think that would be the response on anyone who has set foot in the district attorney's office in fulton county. i believe that ms. willis has been prepared, has been preparing. that's why this has taken so long. she's putting in the work with her team, not just to get the indictment. understand that that's -- you know, that's a lower burden, we're talking about probable cause. we once had a saying as a prosecutor, you can indict a ham sandwich. she's preparing this for trial, proving this case beyond a reasonable doubt. and i'm willing to say that i bet the prosecutors have already started lining up their line of

proof, the evidence, their witnesses, and so forth. so i think that mr. trump and the other co-defendants, they've got to buckle up, because they're facing some real problems in fulton county. >> clark, one difference in this case from the special counsel's case regarding trump's efforts to overturn the election is the use of the rico statute, which as you know, used most often, and by the way, rudy giuliani used this liberally in new york against organized crime, also gangs, et cetera. in read thing indictment, how do you think fani willis applied this, and do you think she's made the case? >> i think she used the rico act very, very effectively. the idea of the rico act, you can take lots of different actions by different people over a large period of time, and you can link them together to create

a compelling narrative for the jury. and so i think she plans to present to the jury a story of really pretty vast conspiracy to subvert democracy itself. and to be able to make that story, she has to take all kinds of individual events, which by themselves might not seem that sinister. when you put them together, she believes she has a compelling case of a criminal enterprise with donald trump at the top of it. >> criminal enterprise. that phrase figured in this. thanks to both of you. >> very glad to be with you. >> jessica? ahead this hour, we'll show you how former president trump is fighting for votes on the trail, while he juggles upcoming trials. plus, joe biden says hawaii will have every asset it needs as it recovers from the fires. we'll take you live to maui for the latest on the situation there. ♪ it takes two to make it outta sight ♪

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today, donald trump repeating a familiar strategy, just hours after a georgia grand jury indicted the former president and 18 allies in a sweeping racketeering case. he is publicly attacking not just the charges but also individuals, including fulton county district attorney fani willis, claiming political persecution as he's often done. cnn's correspondent joins me now. we see this, and it's always a combination of, this isn't true, i'm a political victim, personal attacks on any individuals involved. but also, again, we're seeing repetition of already rebunked lies about the election. >> the thing that is different in this case is that he's not just repeating that this is election interference, i'm a victim of political persecution, as he will do and has done on truth social and in media interviews, but he's going to be disputing the facts of the case.

i think one of his posts today, he said i'm going to have a major news conference on monday at his golf club in bedminster, new jersey. and his team is going to be releasing a report. he's going to be presenting it during this press conference, laying out the claims of election fraud in georgia around the 2020 election. of course, we know that donald trump has been pedaling these claims for years now. >> brian kemp, the republican governor of georgia, prebutted trump's announcement saying the election was not stolen and that no one has been willing to testify under oath to these supposed claims trump is sharing. >> remember, there were two recounts in georgia around the votes, three times they counted the votes. joe biden each time won the majority of the votes. it will be interesting to see the strategy of donald trump and the team as they continue to

defend him in light of the charges. i do think it will be something that they will continue to kind of talk about over the next several weeks, particularly around a potential court appearance next week before that august 25th deadline that the district attorney in fulton county has set for next week. >> flood the zone with disinformation. we have often seen it. thank you so much. jessica? today, former president trump's closest 2024 rival, florida governor ron desantis is refusing to go after trump for his ongoing legal troubles. when asked by a new england radio station about the new georgia indictment, he called it an example of criminalization of pol politics, and he said, they're n devoting an enormous amount of res resources to this. joining me now, former director of the nixon presidential

library, tim natali. tim, great to see you. we just were talking about desantis -- again, this is what he said in all of these indictments, going after what he calls the weaponization of the department of justice against former president trump for political reasons. what's your reaction to that? >> well, my reaction to that, jessica, is that ron desantis, governor desantis, like tim scott, has his own strategy for winning the nomination for the -- of the republican party, while holding onto as many trump votes as possible. let's keep in mind what is at issue in the georgia indictment. it's really organically connected to the federal indictment. these are obviously different levels of government, but in our country, both the federal government and the state governments have a

responsibility for making sure that our elections are free and fair. the federal government, jack smith, and the grand jury, have charged donald trump with leading a conspiracy in seven states to try to overturn the outcome of the 2020 election. now one of those states, georgia, on its own, given its own responsibility, its own laws, is going after the president, former president, and his lieutenants in that effort. so these are really connected. so the question in our country should be, should the powerful be able to overturn an election without consequence? so as far as i can see, the criminalization of the electoral process was not done or hasn't been done by the georgia prosecutor or the federal prosecutor. it's actually at the heart of

what the stop the steal campaign was about in 2020. >> i think it's interesting, and i want to take a look at this graphic we have. it shows that after each trump indictment, his numbers among republicans, there it is right there, go up. i was talking about this earlier in our show today about how so much of the republican base, again, people who support trump, have been convinced that this is all out of politics. again, so many in the republican party. what do you think about that? >> i think we have to take this apart a little bit, because not all republicans think alike. "the new york times" survey said 37% are hyper maga. there are persuadable republicans, and the election is not going to be determined by republicans or democrats alone. there are a whole bunch of

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former president donald trump is railing against his latest indictment in georgia. this morning, he attacked district attorney fani willis calling her out of control and corrupt. willis says she's just doing her job. she spearheaded the investigation and fulton county's first female d.a. is not shy about taking on high profile cases. cnn's randi kaye shows us how willis arrived at this moment. >> it doesn't matter if you're rich, poor, black, white, democrat, republican, if you violated the law, you will be charged. >> reporter: district attorney fani willis, talking about her investigation into donald trump's alleged attempt to influence georgia's 2020 election. at the center of it all, a phone

call trump has with secretary of state brad raffensperger after the election. >> i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state. >> very thankful that you are here. >> reporter: when that call was made, willis had been in office one day. ever since, she's been leading the charge on the investigation. >> we've been working on this 2 1/2 years. we're ready to go. >> reporter: ready to go, and in the process, ruffling trump's feathers. >> in georgia, the district attorney goes after me for a perfect phone call. this woman is not a capable woman. she's a racist. this is a person who wants to indict me. >> reporter: those accusations of racist, unfounded. team trump included willis in this ad called the fraud squad. despite it all, willis seems rattled by trump's continued

attacks. >> it's ridiculous in nature. but i support his right to be protected by the first amendment and say what he likes. >> reporter: since investigating trump, willis says she's been subjected to racist taunts. >> i've never been called the "n" word so much in my life. >> reporter: she was elected the first female district attorney in fulton county. she built a name for herself as a leading prosecutor in the atlanta public school cheating scandal, securing convictions for 11 of 12 defendants. in her first two years, she's juggled investigating trump and subpoenaing top allies, while also going after gangs like drug rich and handed down racketeer invice presidents to popular rappers, including young thug and gunna. willis has cited the rapper's song lyrics as evidence in the indictments against them. something her critics say

infringes on first amendment rights. >> i have some legal advice, don't confess to crimes on rap lyrics if you do not want them used. or at least get out of my county. >> reporter: willis was born in california. her name fanni is swahili, which means prosperous. her father was a criminal defense attorney and member of the black panther party. she worked in the private sector of law school, then joined the fulton county prosecutor's office in 2001. according to "the new york times," a spokesperson said since she became d.a., her office's conviction rate is close to 90%. >> i truly believe god persperson al ally selected me here for this moment in time. i'm going to do the job i'm blessed to be able to do. >> reporter: randi kaye, cnn, atlanta. now that donald trump has been indicted by a grand jury in

georgia, the former president has ten days to surrender and be arraigned in atlanta's fulton county. but this court appearance in georgia is going to look different than his previous three criminal cases. this time, not only will he be fingerprinted, he may have his mugshot taken. much oh of that court appearance could be broad cast on live television. john miller joins us. there are some key differences here that we could see. how do you expect this appearance to play out? >> i think at some point, they're going to make that surrender date. i don't think you're going to see a mass surrender of those defendants. i think donald trump will probably have his own day. but the sheriff has been very clear, whatever our process is, we're going to follow that process. so that means fingerprints, that means mugshots, that means going through a booking process. the wild card here, jessica, is always the same, which is it's the secret service. they don't like to have someone

under their protection in handcuffs, because if they have to grab the person and move them out of someplace quickly, that's a security consideration. i doubt we'll see that. they have been accommodated by the federal government and the new york people in the earlier arrests. but i think we're going to probably see a donald trump mugshot, if the sheriff sticks to his plan. >> yeah. georgia law does allow for cameras to be inside the courtroom. we saw the indictment play out last night. do you anticipate any reason the judge may not allow this? >> i mean, the judge has the ability to do that. but in a case where there is wide interest in georgia, because it was their votes, massive national interest because he's a former president, and frankly global interest, because democracies around the world are watching to see how ours are handling this. it would be highly doubtful to

overcome the public interest factor here for another consideration. i think we'll see cameras in that courtroom. >> that will certainly be different. before i let you go, you mentioned the secret service. that is a big x factor in all of this. what role are they going to play. how much say will they get do you think they'll get? >> the secret service has a clearly cut role here, and their thing is, we are here for the personal protection of this person, but once he safely deliver them to the arrest process, he's in your custody. he's literally your prisoner until a judge says he's free to go. we will be there to ensure his safety, and that's all. >> yeah. john miller for us, thank you for your insight. it will certainly be interesting. we appreciate it. jim? next on cnn, he's taken every opportunity to criticize trump. so why does 2024 challenger

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i think that this conflict is essentially covered by the federal indictment. not with the level of detail they cover in this, but that's just a stylistic thing. election interference is election interference. it's been charged by jack smith. most of the time what you would see here is a state court deferring to a federal prosecution, especially if that federal indictment had been issued. so i think this was unnecessary. >> chris christie will be on "the lead" with jake tapper next hour. jake, of course you will be pressing him on this. but do you have any idea, because deference we were discussing, it doesn't mean you don't necessarily charge. >> as we just saw with those police officers in mississippi, the federal charges came first. then the state charged. governor chris christie is right about that. there are some differences here, obviously. they're using racketeering charges in the georgia case,

which is not what jack smith is doing. and they're going after an entire group of people, 19 defendants total. 30 unindicted co-conspirators, alleging a big mob-like conspiracy. there's also the issue of the practicality of what might happen. donald trump, were he to get the nomination and elected president in 2024, he could then appoint an attorney general that could just toss away a jack smith's charges and indictments and everything else. you can't do that for a state charge, whether georgia or new york. so we'll get into all of this when we have him on in a couple of minutes. >> a remarkable reality if he were to be re-elected. jake tapper, an interview to watch. jessica? joe biden says he will travel to maui soon to see the wildfire devastation on the hawaiian island for himself. we'll take you there next for the latest on the aftermath. that's my boy.

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we have an update for you on the horrific wildfires in hawaii. officials saying with only 25% of maui searched, the death toll is expected to rise significantly. most of the 99 dead so far have been found out in the open, in cars or in the water near the hard-hit lahaina area. crews and cadaver dogs are searching the decimated area as they are picking through the rubble of what used to be homes. our correspondent is on maui. gloria, we see that devastation behind you. tell us what the latest is there. >> reporter: yeah, jessica, it's

going to be a long road to recovery here in maui. much of the devastation is in lahaina. we are about 40 miles from there. we are in a small community that has also experienced an incredible announce of devastation. you talk about the rubble that they are sifting through right now in lahaina. it looks similar to what we are seeing behind me. this used to be someone's home. all that is left is just these piles of mangled metal, people's belongings. their lives used to be right here. we are in an area here in this neighborhood where there is about a 200 foot radius, and four homes have been completely bush burned to the ground. i want to walk across the street just to show you the devastation. there is another home in front of us that is also completely gone. now, you mentioned the amount of coverage that officials have been able to complete so far in

lahaina. they are in search and recovery mode. so far, only about 25% of the area has been covered. and they're looking through rubble that looks a lot like this. it's a pile of ashes. what they're trying to do is they're trying to find any potential victims, anyone whose remains they can possibly salvage. they hope to cover about 85% to 90% of the area by the weekend, according to the officials we have been speaking to. but they told us this is very difficult work. they have cadaver dogs out there, looking through the rubble, sifting through what's left behind. and it's pain staking, difficult work. the power is starting to come back on. hawaii electric has coverage of 80 to 90% of the people here on the island. people here are not just devastated but they're trying to put the pieces back together,

trying to see how they're going to be able to move forward. jessica? >> so many people have lost truly everything they own. it is unimaginable. i do want to ask you too about the alert system. there's been so much talk about people were not properly told or alerted that this was going on, that they didn't get a warning. what have you learned about that? >> reporter: the people i have spoken to in this neighborhood and the last several days we have been here told me not only did they not hear the sirens, they were not notified on their phones. those who did receive messages received them when it was already too late. they had no time to pack up their stuff and leave. that is creating a lot of frustration. we know that the attorney general here in hawaii is conducting a review of those actions to understand exactly what happened and why the system did not function properly.

but it is one of the outstanding questions that officials here have not been able to answer, had people been notified? would they have gotten out sooner? maybe these people in this house would have had a better opportunity to gather their belongings, gather everything that was important to them, and make it out in time. you can see there is a car over there that is just completely burned out. we have been trying to be findful of the situation here, stay away from people's homes, their property. they have lost it all, and it's a really surreal scene here, as people come back, they survey the damage and you can see that a lot of them are still grappling with what's happened. they're trying to come to terms with the incredible amount of loss. >> so much trauma. before we let you go, i want to ask about people who are now homeless because of these fires. there's been so much talk about nowhere for them to go.

it was already an island, and it already had limited housing. and now there are people who are homeless in just moments they became homeless. what's happening with them? >> reporter: the governor has told us that they are making some progress in terms of emptying out the shelters, so that people can be set up with temporary housing. the governor has put into effect several rules that would allow people to stay in place in temporary shelter for 30 days at a time. they're also looking to secure hotel rooms and put out a public call to hawaiians, to the people of the island, who maybe have a spare room in their homes to open up their doors and take people in. we know that people are doing that, because that's one thing i can tell you, jessica, talking to people here over and over, they say we help each other out. we take care of our people. even if the government hasn't showed up yet, we're going to take care of our own. that's part of the hawaiian

spirit and probably what is ultimately going to help the people of the island move forward and make a full recovery, even if it takes a long time. jessica? >> that's right. people helping neighbors and loved ones. thanks so much for that. i want to bring in our reporter who is in milwaukee, where joe biden announced he and his wife, jill biden l go to maui soon. the president has been criticized for not saying more about this yet. these were really the most robust comments we have heard from him days after these devastating fires. walk us through what he said today and how he addressed it. >> reporter: this is the first time that we have heard directly from the president sense last thursday. but in the speech here in milwaukee, he did vow a robust federal response to those devastating wildfires. he said anything hawaii needs from the federal government it

would be able to get. he was here to sell his economic message, but he did add a little bit about hawaii at the very beginning of his speech. listen to some of what he had to say. >> jill and i are going to travel to hawaii as soon as we can. i don't want to get in the way. i've been to too many disaster areas, but i want to go to make sure they get everything they need. i wanted to ensure we don't disrupt the recovery efforts. i had directed my staff to streamline the process as quickly as possible. >> reporter: republicans seized on that period of silence from the president over the weekend. the white house was also contending with something of a split screen of the president at his beach home while the death

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