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106 people. what we're learning about the power pole that seems to have defaulted second before the fire broke out. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts right now. we know where donald trump will likely surrender in fulton county, georgia. the local sheriff said the former president is respected to be arrested at at the county jail. there are nine days left for trump to turn himself in. the district attorney, fani willis, has given trump and 18 co-defendants to noon next friday surrender. one of trump's alleged co-conspirators mark meadows is fighting to move the case from state court to federal court. rudy giuliani, another co-defendant, says he will be surrendering in georgia sometime next week. >> now, we are learning giuliani is apparently going broke at
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this point, facing hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal bills coming as trump announced he is going to hold a, quote, major news conference monday to totally exonerate himself and prove the election results in georgia were rigged. to be clear, once again, georgia confirmed joe biden won after ballots were counted three times. that included a recount by hand of every ballot in every county, an audit of voter signatures on absentee ballots found zero fraud. trumps lawyers brought half a dozen cases to court to challenge the results. they lost or withdraw them all. just putting that out there. >> joining us now john avlon, cnn legal analyst jennifer rogers, political commentators scott jennings, bakari sellers. thank you for being here. jennifer, to you. i am very interested in mark meadows and his move, first move
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to get this in federal court before trump. independent of trump. the fact that he might prevail. >> yeah, it's really interesting that he moved so quickly and did it without trump. i mean, you know, you only have 30 days. you have to move quickly. trump hasn't moved yet. to me the separation shows they are not on the same page. you know, listen, this has been assigned to dawoods judge. the judge will have to decide whether to remand back to the state court if there are no grounds or hold a hearing and proceed in federal -- >> there are grounds, aren't there? >> the statute says if you are a federal officer and that the conduct that you are accused of doing is related to your federal duties, that it can be removed to federal court. so the argument for meadows is, i was chief of staff. i was doing things that are chief of staff-like, arranging meetings and doing what the president told me to do within my job responsibilities. therefore, i fall under the statute. the problem is, of course, that
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the prosecutors will organargue it was not part of his responsibilities to overturn the 2020 election. it switched from illegal challenges and pressures and that is where it turned and he can't make that claim. >> you are laughing adds if james baker wasn't -- >> you're right. nowhere is it in the job description you try to help your boss overturn american democracy. one could argue that would violate oaths you take. >> that's a good point. i hadn't thought through that. there is the legal, the political, the norm. the story of the last seven or eight years. to that point, you are a republican campaign now, because these things are intertwined, we have seen how they responded. talked about the numbers they are seeing and why they have responded it that way in republican primary. when the former president talks about -- not just talking about a rigged election that was not rigged, but now he is going to
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have a report. he is not just talking about it. he is going to throw it in and light that fire all over again, even as the conservative republican governor in georgia takes apart the argument again piece by piece, which is very important. what are you doing as a campaign? follow town this rabbit hole? >> if you were preparing for this debate -- you were preparing for the question if you had been mike pence on january 6th would you have done what he did. if that doesn't get asked, that will be malpractice. now i assume the question next will be did you watch donald trump's news conference and do you agree with him that the election in georgia was stolen? you will have to come up with an answer for that, that sort of satisfies the vector that you have come up with for your campaign. his interjecting this prior to the debate will ensure that he is in the debate without actually being there probably and force all these campaigns to once again dance around. as you pointed out, you will have the republican governor of georgia, brian kemp, saying this
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is fabricated. as it has been for the campaigns. it's extremely complicated and there are no great answers. >> it's not complicated. it's not complicated. there are facts. tell the truth. it doesn't need to be complicated. put it through the vector of their campaign strategy where it becomes -- >> i don't like this battle of what republicans are going to do. i can just sit over here and watch the chaos. the fact is, i think it is a little bit more complicated on the debate table. say tim scott says it's unpatriotic, un-american, what fani willis is doing. he is going to get filleted by chris christie. chris christie is going to wait for him to say that and literally filet him on stage, like marco rubio. if i were chris christie i would look at tim scott and say, no your answer is un-american and you are showing you don't have the fortitude to be a leader. if you can't stand up to donald trump, how can you stand up to kim jong-un, the dictators of
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china? >> the same true on the pence issue. would you have done what pence did, there will be interplay on that. >> and i think ron desantis -- i mean, this is the trap they are going to set for ron desantis and others. when ron desantis tries to -- and nikki haley and tim scott, when they try to like fence it, right, when they don't really want to make a decision or thread a needle, then that's what chris christie and others and asa hutchinson who is a skilled prosecutor will filet them on the stage. i hear you. it ain't complicated. election wasn't stolen. it's not rigged, right? you should be able to say that outloud. on the debate stage it's going to get complicated, not to take scott's sides, but i am tired of you guys jumping up on my guy. >> i hired an attorney. >> thank you. >> he is pretty good. he has a decent win/loss record. >> he has a future in american politics. >> i am going to another great lawyer at the table.
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on this r.i.c.o. claim that rudy giuliani used so successfully in new york against mob bosses says this is the wrong way to use it and fani willis doesn't know what she is doing. >> i am waiting for the details on that. all right. tell me why. i mean, the georgia r.i.c.o. law is exceedingly broader than the federal r.i.c.o. law that rudy is familiar with. when you look at the indictment, it seems on all fours to me. anxious to see how he going to fight this on the legal side. obviously, he can make his claims about the facts. but to say it's not a fit, the allegations with the law makes no sense. >> john, irony lost all meaning over the course of the last sec seven or eight years. the man who used r.i.c.o. to take apart mafia families in new york, made him america's mayor, en ended up in this place, irony is
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not lost that r.i.c.o. is being used against him. >> we have gone full circle. one of the criticisms of rudy in innovating that use of r.i.c.o. against the mafia -- >> not what it's for -- >> yeah. and of course, there is this tragic twist in the rudy tale. the tragic opera of his life there has to be accountability for the things you do. this was a multifaceted effort to try to overturn an american election. >> and also the undertones of rudy and i believe he was on with eric -- >> yeah. >> eric bolling and even donald trump in their attacks against fani willis, you have to address those as well. they are going out of their way and calling this come incompetent, saying she is not a good lawyer, talking about crime. i read a tweet from jim jordan talking about focus on crime in your own county. >> that's what they has been doing. >> cleaning up the streets of atlanta. she and the mayor of atlanta have -- they have literally
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dropped the crime rate and taken on gangs a lot like rudy giuliani used to do. taken on well known gains in atlanta they are more red herrings than anything and they have an undertone of the way that a lot of individuals deal with women in politics and a lot of individuals on another level deal with women in the law which you can speak to more and particularly black women. >> i want to give you a moment to respond to that, as a female attorney the way in which fani willis has been attacked. >> obviously, it's unfair and uncorrect. that argument doesn't make it. when you get in the courtroom, they will not be allowed to say anything about the prosecutor, what she should be doing instead of this case. all she gets to say is what is happening in this case. >> all right. scott jennings, scott jennings' attorney, jennifer rogers, john avlon, thanks. will arizona abbe the next
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date to indict former president trump? the state has been investigating trump, allies and arizona's fake electors. we will ask the arizona secretary of state where they stand coming up next. and getting one of our first looks on the ground at the worst of the devastation left behind by the hawaii wildfires. next guest not only covered it for the hawaiian news station but recently found out he lost four family members in the fires. that's coming up. of d dollars in funding along wh school supplies students need. we call l it “the subaru love promise” and we are proud to be thehe largest corporate supporter of adoptaclassroom.org. it's just one of the reasons forbes ranked subaru the number one automotive brand for social impact. subaru. more than a car company. (psst psst) ahhhh... withlonase, allergies don't have to be scary. spray flonase sensimist daily for non-drowsy, long lasting relief in a scent-free, gentle mist.
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that seems to sh a power pole faulting seconds before we see flames. we should note, this is not the blaze that destroyed lahaina, hawaii. >> check out this video. you will see a big flash, then the camera pans several times. by the time it refocuses, you will see flames. well, we are going to let this play out to the end so you can see the fire. but at the same time of the first flash, our next guest says several sensors went off in the town where that fire started. experts say that flash is likely an arc flash, a power line gets knocked down releasing power. you hawaiian electric said we know there is speck plagues about what started the fire and we are working hard to figure out what happened. bob marshall is the co-founder and chief executive. he joins us now. in terms of the sensors
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themselves, can you explain to us what they showed here? >> yeah. we've got an advanced sensor network over maui and across the united states, and they measure the quality and the reliability of the power grid. we know in the united states, you know, voltage in our homes should be 120 volts, and precisely at the same time that arc flash, we measure on ten different sensors a sharp drop in voltage, which is indicative of an arc flash. so it's verification that, indeed, had was very likely caused by a fault on the utility grid. >> so we were also told, the public's been told by the ceo of hawaii electric, the state utility, that the electricity was needed for the water pumps to work. you need that to fight the fire? but there has been criticism that the power wasn't cut sooner. wo
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would the power being cut sooner, if a pole -- would a pole have faulted like this if the power were cut? >> no. you know, at the end of the day, if there is no energy in the power lines, there will be no arc flash. so, the power has to be on for that to happen. >> can you explain or walk through the number of faults, how this all actually played out? >> yeah, so the network across maui, you know, is -- has an incredible amount of data. unfortunately, it shows an increasingly stressed utility grid starting monday night into tuesday morning. through the overnight hours, when all the fires ignited, we measured 122 individual faults on the utility grid, any one of which could produce a similar result to what you see on that video. >> bob marshall, thank you for joining us with your expertise. please keep us posted as you guys learn more. >> appreciate the opportunity. >> of course.
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now, we are getting a first look on the ground in the worst hit area of wildfire ravaged lahaina. you can see, just look at these pictures, the charred cars, burned out homes, the scope, you can barely get your head around it. fema is looking for those still missing. here is how the hawaiian governor is describes the process. >> we are beginning to heal, but we are also having our hearts broken as we see the loss of life. >> our next guest reported for hawaiian news now, the whole time worried about his own family living on the island. friday to get the tragic news four families didn't make it. jonathan joins us now. we can't even put into words how sorry we are for your loss. along those lines -- >> thank you, tell us about the four members of your family and how did you find out in the midst of this tragedy?
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>> well, mahal a, first of all. it's my honor to be here. how i found out, sadly, about my cousins, in-laws was just talking with them on the phone on friday morning. i already had left the station, you know, overnight and was heading to california. but before i left, i wanted to at least check in to see what was the latest. unfortunately, when we talked and pretty much in graphic detail what was discovered and how they discovered his in-laws, which was heartbreaking to say the least. and through -- i won't get into the details of what and how it came about. nonetheless, when we talked, sadly, the confirmation that his, you know, mother-in-law, father-in-law and sister-in-law and her son were lost due to the fires. i have another cousin that remains missing right now. i believe i heard you say earlier about the painstaking
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task of identifying now what's going to be the focus. another cousin did provide a dna sample just so that when this, sadly, probably will be the inevitable conclusion of what's going on, to identify this other cousin that lost -- that we still have not heard from. >> we are praying that you get good news about your missing cousin, of course. what i have been so struck by, beyond the resilience, by the way, of all of you on maui, is that so many have continued the important work they do while trying to find and wait for word of loved ones. we had a firefighter on, on monday, who lost their uncle, and was fighting the flames at the same time. for you, you have been continuing your work, reporting through all of this. how? how do you do it? >> you know, i have to watch what i say because i get so emotional. as you can recall, the first day
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before the fires got to -- before we realized how bad it was, you know, i was on air. and taking different advisories from officials about road closures and, you know, how the roads were shut down and, in the meantime, realizing as i looked at traffic maps and talking with producers, my gosh, that is the -- -- first of all, it was hit not as bad as west maui. first of all, seeing my childhood home get hit that way. second, getting to the worst part is reporting on, okay, guys, you are not allowed to get into west maui because of this and then seeing where the gist of this was taking place at, realizing that's where my grandmother's family kind have their roots in. and i remember as a child playing at the very house that sadly was lost. so as you both know, when you are getting news and something personal happens, you still have to maintain that composure and still report.
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the minute the camera goes off and the mics are off, you are in the corner regrouping and getting the facts and information that you need to let the public know, because, obviously, we are thinking about their safety as well. >> jonathan, to that point, you were tug about the advisories and what you were learning in real time while at work. as somebody who does this for a living, what questions are unanswered? we heard about the lack of warning, about how people's cellphones weren't working so they couldn't get some messages. where do you think answers are need inside terms of how this actually happened and the devastation didn't seem -- it seemed to creep up so fast on the entire community. >> gosh, that's a hard question to answer. the bottom line is this. the people of hawaii have always been rooted in the spirit of owe hannah, which is family. and i know how painstaking this is, i know the hurt, i know just the deep void we all feel because losing lahaina, losing our family members is something
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so personal. and i strongly believe, because of our upbringing and the sense of family and aloha. aloha is overused, but for someone in the islands, you are deep rooted in aloha. and aloha for us is to have that patience. the second word is malama, the language of hawaii, to take care. and i strongly believe, as we try to, you know, make our way through all of this, those two words that are rooted in the hawaiian culture will help the people get through this. it's not going to be easy. i totally realize that. but again i do see family members, the one that just lost their in-laws, we talked yesterday and the extension of people bringing food to the house, which is so common in high. when something happens you bring food, water, you sit down and you just try to be there, and you try to take care. so i don't know how to answer that question. i know there is people pointing
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blame and whatnot. i say the patience we need to have to wait for the answers. it's not easy to wait, but i strongly believe patience, aloha and malama is the way to get through this. >> that's really beautiful. jonathan, thank you very much for sharing that with us. our hearts are with you. >> mahala. aloha. could trump's latest indictment in georgia affect his support in the peach state? we will break down those numbers. that's coming up next. which star skilled handnds at work. from cutting hair, and mowingng grass, to roasting marshmallows, he's got a grasp on what matters most. there's a story in every piece of land, run with us on a john deere tractor and start telling yours. get $1,000 off a 1025r tractor and 0% apr fixed rate for 60 months. the first time you connected your godaddy website and your store was also the first time you realized...
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meadows trying to get his case moved from state to federal court. >> at least 106 people dialed in the wildfires in hawaii and that number is likely to rise. maybe even double. that's according to hawaii's governor. president biden says he will travel to maui soon once his visit will not disrupt the ongoing recovery efforts. and alec baldwin could once again face manslaughter charges. a report found the revolver that killed hallena hutchins. the charges are dismissed in april and baldwin denied pulling the trigger. north korea confirming that travis king is there in the country after he ran across the dmz last month. they say he was seeking refuge after being mistreated and after racial discrimination against him by the army. king's mother is asking kim jong-un to treat her son humanely. and in the world cup,
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2024 election, also the former democratic maricopa key recorder. thank you for your time, sir. i want to start with what people should think the georgia indictment, what we saw out of the district attorney means for, if anything, what's happening in arizona as it relates to looking back at the 2020 election efforts. >> well, first, thanks for having me. second, our very capable attorney general, chris mace, has reported already that they have an ongoing investigation. they are in the grand canyon state. i am out of state right now. but we are making absolutely certain to cross all the t's and dot all of the i's. that office is going to be very thorough. you may recall as a candidate a year and a half ago, i called for an investigation into some of the folks who were trying to overturn our election in arizona. i continue stalwart against folks breaking the law whether it comes to elections, election administration, and we are going to stay on the path of making
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sure that the law is followed. that includes -- i'll make sure to note for folks, because i am a former prosecutor myself, all criminal defendants are presumed innocent by the law until proven guilty. so, hopefully, justice will prevail in this, and we are looking very carefully at making sure that we are trosing t's and dotting i's in arizona. >> that final point is a critical one. katie hobbs, used to hold your job. she said yesterday that arizona should press charges against the former president. later her communications director seemed to walk that back since she misheard the question, legal process should move ahead without political interference. have you discussed this issue with governor hobbs? i know you guys were on same ticket, it to some degree, or running in 2020 together. but since the investigation has launched, have you guys talked about this? do you have any thoughts on her comments related to this? >> no, i think the governor's office on the ninth floor will speak for her and with the governor.
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from our perspective, we want to make sure that the rules are followed. as a matter of fact, in arizona, the secretary of state does not run elections. the secretary of state is the regulator of those who run the elections. our 15 counties. so we establish the playbook much like the commissioner of a major league and we let the teams go ahead and do all of the work. and so we are excited about making sure that we have got a solid team on the field and all of our counties for the 2024 election. as far as the indictment is concerned or future potential charges in arizona, that's the attorney general's job at this stage of the game and we will support chris mays and her efforts and team with any information, any background, any technical expertise that the secretary's office may need to lend in the future. >> you talk about the playbook, laying the groundwork for the teams -- the idea of the -- you know, you have a draft -- i
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believe you have an elections procedures manual that made changes, kind of moved in a different direction to some degree than the now governor did during her time in office, but also drawn the thread of a lawsuit from republican state representative from state lawmakers. what's your response to that? >> well, look, i am the first secretary of state in arizona who actually administered election prior to becoming secretary of state in several decades. i know what the work is that the counties need to be doing and be prepared for. this manual is actually for the counties. it's not for the legislature. it's not for the executive branch. it's for the counties. and with their input over the last five months, we were diligently making here that they have a rule book they can work with. remember, arizona has not only the second largest voting jurisdiction in the united states in maricopa county, but we have some of the smallest voting jurisdictions in the country. so we have got to do have rules that apply to everyone in our unique system with very, very healthy, no excuse absentee
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voting by our ballot by mail system and in-person voting on election day. that requires some high technical expertise and, you know we, get threatened with lawsuits all the time. it is part and parcel of the political world that we like to stay out of. but if a lawsuit is filed, i stand by the work of our election director and her team and we will vigorously defend the work of the secretary of state's office to help our counties run the best elections that arizona's citizens deserve f. this manual had been in place in 2020, what would have been different about how the election in arizona played out? >> not much. as a matter of fact, a lot of changes we are making are technical changes. you know, and manual really just clarifies what is in statute already. and statute cannot encompass all the very specific technical things about elections. so that's why the manual is
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promulgated. and under arizona law, the legislature has given me the authority to draft it and the approval goes to the governor and attorney general. if the legislature wants an active role in this, they can change the rules that they made. at this stage of the game, we are moving along very nicely and the impact versus 2020 is really political as to outcomes. it's not technical as to the administration of the election. that's the way we hope to keep it in arizona. >> arizona secretary of state adrian fontes, thank you for your time, sir. >> thank you. >> good to hear from him. former president trump still the republican frontrunner by a mile, by the way t in the 2024 race. will this fourth indictment have an impact on that support? harry enten has this morning's number. he is s here.
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i also think he can lose georgia if he is not doing what i said, telling people what he is for, staying focused on the race, quit looking back at the 2020 election. i mean, for goodness sakes, that was two and a half, three years
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ago now. if he continues to do that, he is going to lose georgia in november. >> that was georgia governor brian kemp on cnn last month to our kaitlan collins warning former president donald trump not to relitigate the 2020 election or he risks losing the state again. the former president clearly not taking that advice. instead, fresh off his indictment in georgia doubling down on false claims of fraud. how might this play out with voters in georgia? i have wonderful news. i think at least. harry has the morning number. he is going to tell us how it's going to play out. >> all right. this morning's number is 17 points. why? because let's take a look at the presidential elections in georgia. there has been a 17-point swing towards the democrats since 20004. that is a much wider swing than nationally, which was seven points. it's a state that is going significantly further to the
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left and we look, you know, in terms of donald trump and his sort of popularity amongst the gop ways in georgia, look at this, trump endorsed candidates in 2022 gop primaries, nationwide 95%. but it's just 67% in georgia for congress and governor. so republicans in georgia more skeptical than republican nationwide of trump backed candidates in 20 it 2. >> 95 is higher? >> correct. >> 95 bigger. >> why? explain why. what's different about georgia republicans? >> sort of thinking, we looked at 2020, we looked at 2020 look at 2024 going forward. i think that's the key nugget here. republicans who think trump has committed serious federal crimes, this is nationally, 27% of republicans with a college degree believe so versus just 12% amongst those without a college dreechlt why is that so
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important for georgia? let's take a look at the six closest swing states that joe biden won back in 2020. look at this. this is trump voters with a college degree. georgia at the top at 35%. significantly more than wisconsin, michigan, nevada. only arizona tops it. so the trump skeptical republicans are those with a college degree and there are plentiful in georgia among republicans. don't be surprised if there is ebbing of that trump republican base in the peach state. >> dekalb, cobb. >> you know it. >> thank you. all right. here is what fulton county district attorney fani willis said on monday night. listen. >> all elections in our nation are administered by the states. the states roll in this process is essential to the functioning of our democracy. >> according to a "new york times" essay, the georgia case she unveiled against former president donald trump and his alleged co-conspirators shows the power of states to save
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democracy. amy lee copeland writes that the indictment stands out, quote, because georgia offers uniquely compelling evidence of election interference in state statutes made for the sprawling loosely organized wrongdoing. they added the genius of american federalism when our democracy is threatened states have an indispensable part of protecting it. one of the authors of that op-ed, amy lee, great to have you. what is so ingenious about the way that fani willis did this? >> good morning, poppy. the georgia indictment collects everything that happened in georgia with respect to this presidential election. it covers the calls made to the secretary of state, which are widely publicized, but things that other people may not be as aware of it. it talks about the participants going to the general assembly to try to have the fake electors. it talks about the attempts to
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have voting machine breaches in rural coffee county, georgia. it speaks about witness intimidation of poll workers in fulton county. it ties it back to the oval office, and it parallels what is going on in other states. georgia's r.i.c.o. statute is broad and is to be deliberately construed in its perfect mechanism for punishing and recognizing all these crimes. >> the fact that georgia's r.i.c.o. statute is broad, broader than the federal one, why you think trump's claims and his attorneys likely attempts to say this doesn't fall under r.i.c.o. will be unsuccessful? >> i do think they will be unsuccessful. i am sure there are be a number of challenges. i have no doubt these defendants will be represented by very capable attorneys. the statute is clear and very broad. >> we know, actually, that trumps two defense lawyers in the state of georgia are really capable attorneys. they have been really successful. even people who have tried cases against them in the court have
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complimented them. so you're a former georgia federal prosecutor. what do you think fani willis' team's biggest achilles heel is as they take this to trial? >> well, it's just going to be a matter of time. i think they are going to -- miss willis said that she wanted to try this within six months and she would be ready. i have no doubt she can try it in six months. she has been investigating since february 10 of 2022. i think delay is going to be big, there will be motions, a removal petition filed by mr. meadows. i think the defense will need more than six months to prepare and wet agetting a jury is goin be very, very difficult. >> mark meadows wants this in federal court -- >> it will, but -- >> go ahead. >> he does. he filed a removal petition. i am sorry. mark meadows wants this in federal court, saying he had
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federal defenses and the federal court should hear his case. i expect removal petitions from other governmental actors like mr. clark and mr. trump himself. >> well, trump's former attorney in the second impeachment, david schoen, thinks not only mark meadows but trump has a very good case to make to get this thing in federal court and he explained why yesterday on the show. here is what he said. >> the defense story would be president trump and all of those around him believed at all times that there was election fraud, irregularities, what he was saying he believed in. if that's the case, then he had an obligation, would be the defense, to see that the -- take care that the laws are faithfully executed. clearly, acting as president -- >> that's how he reads this under the removal statute 1442, he was doing this in his capacity as par 3 president. mark meadows says i was doing this in my capacity as chief of staff. what do you say? >> states administer elections
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and here the state has consistently said that there was no election fraud. they said it at the outset and governor kemp said it as recently as monday, i believe, there was no election fraud in the 2020 election. >> you are saying, therefore, they may have been acting in those capacities as president and chief of star, but they weren't acting legitimately because they should have known? >> that is one thing i'm saying. i am also harkening back to the january 6th testimony of attorney general barr, for instance, where he says that mr. trump actually did know that there was no election fraud, that the statements had been made to him. >> final question to you is about how long this took. so jack smith -- well, much what we see in fani willis' indictment is in jack smith's most recent indictment. his took eight months, in his case covered seven different states, federal machinations in all of this. do you think fani willis waited
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too long to bring this case, two and a half years? >> i think miss willis waited until she felt certain she had everything she needed. she began this investigation, like i said, february 10, 2021, taking it up with the georgia secretary of state. she impaneled a special purpose grand jury to have 75 witnesses come and testify, and that grand jury made a recommendation. she went to a regular grand jury. mr. trump has received protection i have having this presented to a special purpose grand jury. her investigation took as long as it took to go now. >> amy lee copeland, thank you for being with us. i encourage everyone to read your piece in the "times," it's really interesting. >> thank you, poppy. die hard dodgers fans making good on his wager with slugger mookie betts, something betts now calls one of the coolest moments of his career. i don't think you are going to believe what's on the line here,
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in his first ten seasons in the major leagues mookie betts has hit 244 home runs but is calling one home run one of the coolest moments of his career. betts was in the on deck circle in a game against the oakland a's when giuseppe bet the dodgers slugger if he hit a home run he was going to give his soon to be born daughter the middle name of mookie. >> and i heard this and i laughed, and he said he was serious. so i turned around told him, no, don't do that, bro. he said, no, i'm going to do it. i said your wife wouldn't like that, bro, don't do that. he said, no, i'm going to tell her. >> i mean, he warned him. of course. betts delivered hitting a 436-bomb to left field, his longest home run with the team. fast forward to yesterday, well,
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