has invested in training local military. >> every single place that wagner group has gone, death, destruction, and exploitation have followed. insecurity has gone up, not down. >> reporter: but for now, wagner and russia stock seem to be rising in west africa. busy making more russian flags to meet increased demand. and erin, the u.s. and its allies remain extremely concerned about the situation there in niger. a source in the french foreign ministry telling cnn that they consider wagner to be an organization with an opportunistic and predatory logic, and therefore wagner could try to take advantage of the situation. erin? >> thanks very much to all of you for being with us. you for being with us. "ac 360" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight on "360," first a

cancelled press conference. now a debate no show. that and news on when he'll surrender in georgia. also tonight a cnn exclusive. meet the trump adviser who took the fifth when asked what he was doing january 6th. tonight we know what he was doing and with whom. later, what hurricane hilary could have in store for southern california, which is bracing for its first storm this magnitude since 1939. good evening. thanks for joining us. the former president is expected to turn himself in at the fulton county jail in atlanta next thursday or friday. that, according to a senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the surrender. friday is the deadline for all 19 defendants. trump, his former chief of staff, several of his lawyers, a top justice department official, and others all being booked, fingerprinted, and with probably the exception of the former president, photographed. in the last two days, the former president has backed out of opportunities to be seen by millions of television viewers. yesterday he cancelled that press conference he'd announced for monday to repeat lies about

election fraud in jor r jo. today we learned he's planning, as of now, to skip next week's republican debate on fox in favor of a sitdown with tucker carlson. criminal defense considerations play into his decision, we start with kaitlan collins on new reporting on the politics driving it. she joins us with george conway and cnn contributor john dean, who served as white house counsel in the nixon administration. so, what is -- do we know the reason he's backed out? >> of the debate or the -- >> yeah. >> debate or press conference, he's not showing up to either. the debate, he had been keeping people on edge this week, asking people should he go. a lot of people he asked that to said they don't think he was really considering it. he hasn't done any formal debate prep to prepare for this. they didn't expect him to show up. it would have been a big difference if he had decided to go. obviously monday with the news conference, that's a legal

decision, i think. i think wednesday is a political decision not to show up to that debate because he does feel like he doesn't really need to go and show up. certainly everyone has tried to goad him into being there, saying it's weak if he doesn't show up, it's disrespectful to republican voters if he doesn't show up. none of it has registered with him in a way he cares about. they went to great lengths to get him to come to this. the republican chairwoman personally appealed to him to come. fox executives went to bedminster, had dinner with him, trying to get him to show. >> in terms of what we know about the surrendering next week. >> they're still negotiating the deal of what that's going to look like with secret service and the district attorney's office and the judge will have to sign off on the conditions they agreed to. the local sheriff said it's going to be standard operating procedure. obviously this is high profile prosecution in the country right now. and the idea it is going to be anything standard is obviously not likely to happen when he does show up.

we're expecting thursday or friday right now. we'll see if that changes. that's the expectation at the moment. the question is, does he go in and get the exact process that any other defendant would get? we don't know about a mug shot yet. we do believe he'll be fingerprinted. we don't believe he'll be handcuffed. they'll do medical screenings. they have other steps they have to go through. when we were reporting this out -- i was thinking about my reporting when he was in washington, he had grown irritated at the process of going through the standard procedure, having to wait, having to be fingerprinted, sitting in the courtroom for 20 minutes waiting for the judge to show up and it's completely silent in the room. he's not a typical defendant by any means. >> george, do you think this is the right move for the former president both politically and legally? certainly not doing the press conference legally makes all the sense in the world. not showing up at the debate? >> yeah. i have to say, these are words

that are difficult for me to say, but i agree with donald trump. i think he's doing the right thing by donald trump. absolutely. i don't see the upside for him to appear at this debate. all it does is give his opponents a chance to take free shots at him, which i would love to see. but, you know, he's doing -- you know, with his commanding lead, there really is no reason for him to show up and take the downside risk of running into the chris christie chart. i think he's doing the right thing by donald trump. i think the voters -- i would love -- i think it's better for the voters to see him and to hear him respond to the attacks. but, you know, just looking at it from his interests, he's doing the right thing. >> john, i mean, every time he holds a rally or makes a social media post or participates, frankly, in future debates, how much legal jeopardy does he put himself in? >> well, given his ability to put his foot in his mouth, anderson, i think he has a rather regularly. he has conceded an awful lot in

public. he consistently does it. i'm sure that the prosecutors are monitoring it. they probably have staffers who do nothing but follow what he's doing and saying. so, i think it's high exposure, and it appears that somehow a lawyer got through to him, or he is now dawned on him that he might be in serious trouble. so, he's backing down a little bit. >> it is interesting, kaitlan, that a guy who was once the president of the united states is not willing, at least for this debate, to stand on a stage and take the punches and, you know, show himself to the american people in a debate format. and it's not like he's staying home. he's going on, you know, tucker carlson, who has been, you know, supportive of him all this time. >> i think that -- it's more of the idea he's angry with fox news, who has been picked to host the debate. he thinks that they are covering his challengers in a more favorable way than they are him.

he has always had this expectation that to cover him, you know, accurately is to cover him unfairly. to actually cover what's going on or to give other people air time, it's a dig at him. that's how he views it. he thinks that they are in the pocket of ron desantis. that is his view. so, i think it has multiple avenues that he wants to go down by sitting down with a host that they fired, having this moment. and i just think he also understands that there is a potential at that debate for someone like a chris christie. he knows they will only be attacking him. they are going to go after him on these issues. in his mind, he avoids all of them by not showing up. he's citing reagan and other people when he's talking about not dog it. but he's doing it because of his own political will and why he doesn't want to show up and what that looks like. >> george, we haven't heard from the since the georgia indictment. it's a sweeping case with a huge rico charge at the head of it. how strong of a case do you think it is? >> well, i think it's a very, very strong case. i think the evidence is

overwhelming against him. i think it's a more complex case than the case that jack smith decided to bring in d.c. and it's an interesting contrast to put the cases up against each other. one is rather simple, straightforward, kind of like a bullet. the other one is more like an air raid. and it's just -- it's going to be more complex. it's going to take longer. but i think there's a utility to it because you get to see the scope of the damage and alarm that trump caused. >> john, do you think many of the coconspirators will flip and work with the prosecution? it seems unlikely all 19 will go to trial? >> it does seem unlikely, anderson. if they go into the jailhouse and surrender and get arraigned and get a whiff of what that place is like or have any knowledge of what a hell hole is georgia prisons are, i think you'll have several who come

forward and say, let's see if we can work out an arrangement. i think eight or nine will fall by the wayside and plead. >> kaitlan, have you heard of any concern among the people around the former president that, you know, left alone on the debate stage, some of these candidates may have breakout moments? >> maybe they will. we always kind of see that in a debate. someone has their few moments. certainly we've seen who clearly governor desantis is worried about. they know he is going to be the next person on that stage if donald trump is not there that they're attacking. so, the debate happens on wednesday night. someone has a breakout moment. trump goes on thursday in georgia and surrenders himself. that breakout moment has a 24-hour life cycle because then it's going to be trump showing up at the jail, which is notoriously bad, as john was just mentioning there. they've opened investigations into it. the conditions of it are pretty horrific. and when you look at just the idea that the former president is going to be walking in there to be arrested and to be -- his

arraignment, which won't actually be an appearance -- is remarkable in and of itself. even if there is that breakout moment, we're at such a bizarre point in the history of this country that 24 hours later the former president is going to be turning himself in. it's not clear if it would have legs. we'll see what happens in the defense of donald trump -- >> is it thursday or friday? we're not sure exactly? >> we're not sure exactly. who knows. it is donald trump. everything comes with a caveat. maybe he decides to turn himself in the day of the debate. that seems unlikely at this moment. governor christie saying if you're going to defend donald trump on the stage, just get off the stage. trump has been very bothered by chris christie's criticisms and others' criticisms. >> mark meadows is trying to move the case to -- trump as well are expected to do the same thing. do you think they have a good shot? >> no, i don't, because

basically it's no business. it's essentially no business of the executive what happens when states count their votes. i mean, the constitution provides that federal elections are in the hands of congress and in the hands of the states. and the chief of staff and president has no authority to supervise the counting of votes in fulton county or anywhere else. the fact that mark meadows went down there on his behalf wasn't an exercise of presidential authority. and he wasn't really exercising -- he was acting as a campaign staffer, and that should not be -- that should not entitle him to move the case to federal court. >> john, the april 26 trial date that the former president's attorneys have given to the judge in the january 6th case, i mean, almost three years from now. when do you realistically think that would go to trial? >> shaes not going to give them what they want. i think it's more likely to be somewhere between ten months and 14 months, which is ample time

and certainly well within the strictures of due process. it's going to be much sooner than later. >> kaitlan, thanks so much. we'll see kaitlan at the top of the hour. thanks so much. we know now what the lawyer who allegedly devised the former president's scheme was doing on the day it came to a violent head at the capitol. also the latest from hawaii tonight where the military has deployed experts. julian's about to learn that free food is a personal eating trigger.

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cnn exclusive tonight on one of the 18 other defendants who will be turning themselves in next week in atlanta along with the former president. the story, however, is not about where he'll be next week. it's what cnn's simone prokupecz and the kfile investigative team discovered about where he was on january 6, 2021, something he himself refused to say when asked under oath. >> reporter: he is one of the alleged coconspirators in two cases against donald trump for 2020 election interference. now for the first time, cnn has identified kenneth jess pro outside the capitol on january 6th, shortly before a mob stormed the east side of the building. he followed right wing conspiracy theorist alex jones for about an hour. chesbro is the alleged architect for a plot to stop the certification of joe biden's win. this week he was indicted along with trump and 17 others in georgia. he's been identified as an

unindicted coconspirator in the federal case against the former president. >> cnn predicts joseph r. biden jr. is elected the 46th president of the united states. >> reporter: in the days after the november 2020 election, chesbro wrote a memo to a lawyer for donald trump. it's among the earliest known documents outlining the legal strategy trump would try to use. his memo focuses on january 6th as the hard deadline with ultimate significance to determine the validity of votes. emails obtained by the january 6th committee showed chesbro, that the fear of, quote, wild chaos on that day could provoke the supreme court to take action. at the same time, alex jones was helping pay for and plan the january 6th rally, urging his massive audience to gather in washington, d.c. jones would warn of a coming battle. >> this will be the waterloo, this will be their destruction.

>> we fight. we fight like hell. and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore. >> reporter: when the january 6th committee asked if chesbro was in washington the first week of january, chesbro pleaded the fifth. >> let's go take our country back. it's only minutes away. let's start marching to the capitol. >> reporter: but there was no question he was there. cnn has analyzed publicly available photos and videos from that day, which show his movements. in the hours before the insurrection, he was with alex jones and his entourage a short distance from the capitol. chesbro is here, wearing a red trump 2020 hat. as lawmakers prepare to certify the results of the election inside the building, chesbro follows alex jones and a crowd of protesters, as they walk toward the capitol. chesbro has his phone out, seemingly recording jones' every move. >> let's give the system what

they want. we are peaceful. >> reporter: as jones was leading a crowd to tooes side of the capitol, the west side was breached and rioters poured in. at one point, while chesbro was on capitol grounds, he appears to show something on his phone to a moefb jones' security team. then jones and chesbro climbed the capitol steps. >> 1776, 1776. >> reporter: there is no indication chesbro entered the capitol building or engaged in violence. shortly after chesbro and jones left the steps on the east side, the capitol was breached again, as the mob poured into the doors. in all, more than 2,000 rioters would enter the building, vandalizing and looting, attempting to prevent a joint session of congress from counting the electoral college votes. the house committee investigating january 6th would eventually call it the final step in donald trump's plan to try and overturn the election, a plan that started in earnest with kenneth chesbro. >> it's incredible reporting,

shimon. has he responded? >> no, there's been nothing, no response. his attorney did issue -- the kfile team, kaczynski and his team, a statement, saying they're going to deal with this in court. chesbro is supposed to be one of the guys turning himself in next week. asked throughout this entire thing, there's really been no clear understanding or explanation why a trump campaign attorney -- he was hired by the trump campaign -- would be there so close to alex jones in the middle of this mob. there's really no -- right now, there's no explanation for that. >> shimon poke perez, appreciate it. thanks so much. with the former president not expected in next week's republican presidential debate, we're going to look at how that changes it for other candidates, particularly chris christie, who took a shot at governor desantis.

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at the cnn town hall i hosted with presidential candidate chris christie in june, the one-time presidential candidate suggested the former governor might skip the

presidential debate. ch christie said doing so would give him a free lane to going after the former president. the former governor is depending on a strong showing in new hampshire to give him momentum in the race. our omar jiminez caught up with the governor. >> i do know that you have a couple of candidate whs who liv here. do we want a president who's focused on your problems or do we want a president who will spend his time trying to fend off the next criminal trial? >> just days until debate day, chris christie is in miami and the home state of former president trump and governor ron desantis? >> i'm here because i'm talking about those things, and i'm not conceding that conversation to ron desantis. >> reporter: it's been a theme

of the christie campaign, blasting donald trump. >> the front runner of our party's nomination is going to be out on bail in four different jurisdictions. >> reporter: christie also used the florida setting to go after its governor, ron desantis. he honed in on a recent memo from a pro desantis super pac floating talking points that included defendant donald trump, though a desantis campaign spokesperson stressed it wasn't a campaign memo and they were unaware of it prior. >> the only way to beat one someone is to beat them. he should do donald trump a favor and do our party a favor, come back to tallahassee, endorse donald trump, and get the hell out of the race. >> reporter: cnn has reached out to the campaign on christie's latest comments but hasn't heard back. desantis is trying to project confidence going into the first

debate. >> i'm excited about doing it because most of what you do in this process is filtered through media. and seldom you get the opportunity to speak directly to this many people. >> what are you hoping to accomplish with this debate that you haven't so far at this point? >> i listen to the question, i try to answer it. and if somebody else says something on the stage i think is really stupid, i try to point it out. that's about the -- that's the depth of our strategy. >> reporter: it's an authenticity that seemed to resonate with some voter who is attended friday's town hall. >> he does speak his mind, and i find that really refreshing in a presidential candidate. >> reporter: even for some independents who were there. >> everyone's afraid to say anything, and he actually got up and spoke his mind. >> reporter: which christie also plans to do on the debate stage, as his campaign feels momentum is on his side. >> the people that are going to vote for me feel strongly about

it. >> when you do something the second time, you do it better, at least for me. i feel really relaxed and comfortable and i know i'm speaking the truth. and i think that's going to matter to people in the long run. >> omar, how is christie responding to the news the former president is likely to skip the debate? >> even when it was just a possibility, he said that doing so would be disrespectful to the gop party that's made him their nominee twice and two republican voters. as sources have told cnn that he's planning to skip the debate, chris christie tweeted that, surprise, surprise, the guy who's out on bail for four jurisdictions and can't defend his reprehensible conduct is running scared and hiding from the debate stage. trump, certified loser, verified coward. and of course they've gone back and forth over the course of this campaign. christie hasn't been shy about attacking trump. trump has called christie a, quote, sad, pathetic slob.

we can expect that continue. regardless of all of that, a senior adviser of the christie campaign says they feel the campaign has gone as well as it could to this point and they hope to continue that momentum. christie doesn't plan to just show up. he plans to shine on that stage, regardless of whether trump is there or not. >> mark mckinnen joins us tonight. do you think it's wise for trump to skip the debate, mark? >> i don't. any candidate i've ever worked for over the course of the years, anderson, either was anxious for debate or wanted to avoid a debate. but whenever they want to avoid a debate, it's because they were worried they weren't going to do well. and voters -- it's an expectation that voters have. that's just the price of admission for running for president. if you want to be president, you've got to get on the stage, even if you're a former

president, maybe especially if you're a former president under indictment. but i think trump will regret this decision because it's the hottest spotlight -- it'll be the hottest spotlight in the world next week. all the attention will be there. and i think he'll watch it, he'll think i could have cleaned their clocks and he probably would have had he showed up on the stage. but it's going to be exciting to watch chris christie. he is a human wrecking ball. and if trump's not there, i do expect him to go after the next biggest kingpin on the stage, which is probably ron desantis. it's interesting. he talked about the power of authenticity, or your reporter did. i think that's really important commodity in politics these days. it's very powerful when you can do anything that comes across as authentic. the problem with ron desantis is he now has that memo out there so now anything he does that reflects anything in that memo, it's going to look like it was skrifted. believe me, chris christie will point that out, as he did marco

r rubio. >> does it image christie not to have trump on that stage and elevate himself? >> i don't think so. i think christie can just say, he's not here because he's afraid of me because i'm the only one speaking truth to power. that's why he hasn't shown up because i'm taking it to him. >> right. >> it wouldn't surprise me if christie is right that he shows up for the second debate. >> what he wasn't asked, which is probably the more important question is if he admits the election was free and fair. if all the candidates are asked that on the stage next week, as they should be, i think, do you think they dance around it? obviously not will hurd, asa hutchinson, or christie. >> i think it will be interesting. i think what you're going to see. christie is certainly on it. desantis is starting to show a little bit on this too is that trump is a loser. ultimately the way they're going to beat trump, when they know

there's a lot of loyal supporters out there, we know you love the guy, he's our tribal chief, he did a great job, but because of the legal problems and everything else hanging over him, he's not the best general election candidate to go up against the democrat next year. and increasingly i think we'll see that between now and iowa that he's going to get underwater and he's increasingly going to be seen as someone who's going to lose the general election. you only amplify that debate by saying he lost in 2020 as well. >> if you're the former vice president, if you're pence on that stage, do you lean into the trump criticism, which he kind of has been doing lately as much as pence does that sort of thing. >> i think pence is having a moment in the last few weeks. as the indictments stack up and the legal proceedings become more of a shadow blotting out trump's sun, there's more emphasis on the act that -- the constitutional act that mike pence did. and i think he's starting to feel that a little bit. and i think increasingly he's going to lean in on that as the

legal problems get worse for trump. >> i know you believe that once the weight of trump's legal troubles sink in, voters will start to abandon him. he is still crushing the gop field in national polls. he's only trailing biden in a head-to-head matchup by one point in the latest quinnipiac poll. when do you see some sort of tipping point being reached? >> i think it's already started, anderson. the key is not to look at the national polls, but look at iowa. iowa is going to come first, and whatever happens there is going to effect the rest of the race. if you're a former president running to get re-elected again and you lose iowa, believe me, that's going to be a huge black eye. and it's softening. his support has already softened in the last week or two and increasingly as the fourth indictment has come down, it's looking that there are problems -- there are problematic signs in iowa. and listen, if iowa goes south on trump, they see the blood,

they see he's mortal, and you can see the support evaporate pretty quickly. >> where do you see his support softening? >> well, i see in iowa. you see it in the data in the last week or two. and you see that he is now under 50 in iowa. ron desantis, you know, despite his problem is still at 20. and iowa voters take this very seriously. and they often make their minds up at the last minute and they move quickly. and listen, trump's problems aren't going to get any better between now and then, so it's only going to get worse. so, i suspect that things are soft in iowa. trump has, you know, got problems with the governor there. he's got problems with other people who are not endorsing him. and iowans are not going to be happy about that. so, when they look to the -- can say this may not be the best guy to go up against a democrat next year. >> mark mckinnon, great to have you on again. thanks so much. coming up, the hawaii wildfires, maui's emergency management chief resigns, citing

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111 dead, that is the official toll right now in hawaii after the deadly wildfires. but search and rescue teams continue to sift through rubble and ash to find the remains of others. officials say possibly more than 1,000 people are still unaccounted for.

the news today, the administrator in charge of emergency management on maui resigned. herman andaya is his name. he cited health reasons. no more details were given. his resignation came after he defended not activating the outdoor siren system to warn residents of the rapidly burning fires. i'm joined now by bill weir. what are you seeing on the ground, bill? >> reporter: well, anderson, this afternoon a bunch of local leaders from lahaina held a press conference imploring the governor to keep them in the loop as they talk about how to reopen, how to rebuild. they're working in a void of information, just a vacuum. we have communication back up on the island. we're next to a free wifi station here. ten days later, you would think the 1,000 missing would make first contact and proof of life. but you've got so many locals agonizing without that information. meanwhile, there are canine,

human cadaver remain searching dogs working feverishly. here's a little look. >> reporter: with noses 40 times more powerful than ours, a trained cadaver dog can smell a body buried 15 feet deep. but in lahaina, the challenge for these good boys and girls is not depth but breadth, as they work three and a half square miles of ash and loss. for their handlers, this is pain staking, heartbreaking work. for the dogs, it's hot and hazardous. >> who is this? >> this is ameprentis. >> burned claws and clumsy booties are just some things to overcome. los angeles county fire captain selena serrano has been working

and living with her labrador partner for nine years, including her state's deadliest ever campfire, which laid similar waste to paradise, california. >> are you also looking for bone fragments or signs, or is it purely the dog triggering the search? >> we will. we have rescue team members coming with us, and they are also searching to see anything visible that they can make out. it is a little difficult, though, because there is some stuff that -- it's just -- you're staring at this debris and it's starting to look like it's bone, but it really isn't. so, that's where we really rely on the dog. >> we have actually brought in about 40 different search k 9s, which is a fair amount of k-9s for this project because we want to make sure we're doing it as fast as we can while remaining as accurate as we can. as far as the time scale, it's really going to be about that ability to work through this kind of technical search. >> you're really searching at

the granular level. >> in a lot of cases, this is a lot smaller than we're typically dealing with. we're making sure the sensitivity and the somberness of this -- this is a very special site to the people of hawaii. certainly we're talking about homes, communities, and lives that are all missing and all lost. this is something we take very serious and take with a lot of respect. and we have to make sure everything is treated with that level of respect. >> not knowing where your friends and family are, a lot of people are hurt and in pain. >> reporter: over 1,000 people remain missing. and while they understand that forensic science takes time, lahaina survivors are agonizing over how that number remains unchanged. >> what do you make of this number of the missing ho, how accurate that is? >> i believe it. i know this because i know plenty people who got out, who know people were stuck. a lot of people didn't make it

out. but that number is real. i hope it comes -- i hope it comes lower, but at this point, we're over eight days -- we're on our tenth day. and if we haven't found them yet -- they're gone. >> bill, i saw the l.a. county team's work in haiti. their efforts are extraordinary in situations like that, and especially with that sense of respect that the gentleman was talking about. you really see that in the field. can you talk about what additional support is arriving to help identify, you know -- as you said, you're working at the granular level here. >> yeah. we understand that the department of defense has sent six forensic anthropologist

specialists overseas. that is in addition to 50-some national guard troops who are sifting through those remains there as well. but even if they find something, the forensic match to the dna samples takes time. we had a military leader of a task unit come in today and say, anderson, this is a multi-year response effort here in maui. >> bill weir, thank you so much for being there. we're also keeping our eyes on a powerful category 4 hurricane, which could potentially threaten southern california in the southwest. hurricane hilary is expected to weaken in the coming days, but it could be the first tropical storm to hit california in 84 years, expected to dump a year's worth of rain in california, nevada, and arizona. jen meyers joins us from the cnn weather center in atlanta. how dangerous could this storm be? >> for the flooding in southern california, even parts of arizona and nevada, deadly,

without a doubt. catastrophic. i'm going to show you how long it rains in the same places. hours and even in some spots a day and a half. there is a storm right there 130 miles per hour. 129. it's a cat 3. we're just on the edge between 3 and 4. the first tropical storm watch, which i believe by tomorrow morning will be upgraded to a tropical storm warning -- a watch means conditions are possible within 48 hours. a warning means conditions will be happening in 36 hours. we're ramping closer and closer to when that storm gets here. the good news is this is very cold water that this hurricane is now moving into. hurricanes like temperatures above 80. well, the temperatures in here are in the 60s. try to go surfing in california without a wet suit. you won't be in the water for long. that's the problem for the hurricane. that's the good news for the people of southern california and northern mexico. the bad news is how much rainfall is going to fall? anderson, we get about 4% of the day -- we'll call it 12 or 13

days in the entire year that we get this purple, this high risk. but 39% of the fatalities from flooding for the entire year are in those 4%, are in those 12 or 13 days. and 87% of all the damage is in those 4%, in those 12 or 13 days. so, we have a lot of rain to come. it is going to be falling for hours and hours and hours in places that may get 2 to 5 inches a year, they're going to get 10 in two days. >> wow. chad myers, appreciate it. thank you. actually, what is the timing of this? do you know? >> sure. this whole thing is kind of just getting rolling right now. we have flood watches that are already in effect. and even some flood warnings around vegas and also into 29 palms and the area there. this is not even part -- this is not even part of hilary at all. this is just the rainfall that would have happened anyway. so, let me move you ahead. i'm going to move you ahead to about 3:30 or so, 3:00 tomorrow. that's when it begins to rain up

here in san diego in the mountains to the east of san diego. notice how far the storm is still away. but this is called precursor rain. it's the humidity that's spilling out of the hurricane. so, it's going to be raining hours and hours. and just keep your eye on the same places. it's still raining 24 hours later. so, this is just a long duration effect. i think we will lose infrastructure. we will lose bridges. we will lose roads. i hope we don't lose people. as long as you know it's coming and you can stay out of those low-lying areas -- they're already closing national parks out there. they don't want anybody out there. this is going to be a 10-inch rainfall in places that don't have any way to handle that kind of rain. but who does? even florida. you get 10 inches of rain in a place that rains all the time, you're going to get flash flood warnings. >> chad myers, thank you. we'll keep an eye on that. new polling on marijuana, who's using it, how popular is it, and what do people think of the smell? harry enten has the 41411 on 4/.

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that's one of the findings from a new survey. and a new ballot measure is about to give people in ohio a chance to legalize it. harry enten joins us for more. >> i just want to make an admission by saying i've never done the doobie. >> really? >> i know it's a big surprise. diet cream soda is my thing, not marijuana. but a lot of americans have in fact at least tried american. >> have you listened to doo by brothers? >> i have listened to doobie brothers. >> the amazing thing is now half of american adults have at least tried marijuana once in their lifetime. we have crossed the 50% threshold. look at this trend line we see here. if you look back in 1969, only 4% of americans had ever tried american. so, you see this graduate increase, and we have finally hit 50%. i'm not one of them, but i'm guessing that one of the people

in this room probably has, based on those numbers. >> so, in ohio, this measure is on the ballot in november. how much more popular is marijuana legalization today? >> it's incredible. again, the trend line here is just tremendous. back in the late '60s, well less than 20% of americans believed that marijuana should be legal. look at where it is now. about two-thirds of americans believe that marijuana should, in fact, be legal, recreational marijuana. so, we've just seen this tremendous trend line of people using it and people believing it should be legal, which kind of makes sense that the two of those believe it goes together. >> i don't know if the people are aware of the smell issue, which now in new york, everywhere you go, not only are there weed shops everywhere, but the smell is everywhere. >> the stench is disgusting. it's disgusting. >> harry is joining us from the 1950s. >> i am joining you from the 1950s. i've never done the doobie. i hate the smell.

i'm raining on the kids' parades here. these marijuana dispensary shops, you go around there and it's not the best type of behaviors. and in the new york city metropolitan area, dobbs ferry, which is just north of new york city, i believe mark zuckerberg is there, what we saw there -- marijuana, it's a segment on marijuana. anyway. what we saw there -- >> are you sure you're not high right now? >> you know what? i'm high on life. >> okay. >> i'm high on life. >> as you should be. >> as i should be, right? i'm here with you. why shouldn't i be high on life? what did we see there? we saw that two-thirds of voters voted down dispensaries in their town which is a thing because this is a town that went for joe biden by nearly 20 points in 2020. what we saw was a very blue area still voting down marijuana dispensaries. it turns out the quote, unquote left part of the community don't want marijuana in their town, at least out in the open. >> have a nice weekend.

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an historic week, the fourth indictment of the former president, one of the 19 people charged in the georgia 2020

election interference case. one codefendant, his former attorney, rudy giuliani. tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. eastern, don't miss the cnn original series, "giuliani: what happened to america's mayor." here's a preview. >> what happened to rudy giuliani? >> it is almost unthinkable. >> a theme that runs through his life is that he's got to be at the center of the action. rudy's got to be the star. >> rudy really wanted to make big cases. >> we sure can deliver a message, which is, you're going to go to prison. >> new york has five organized crime families and they have been permitted to grow and grow and grow and grow. >> giuliani was taking on the mafia. >> i plane crashed into one of the twin towers. >> a terrible tragedy. the best way we're going to get through this is we remain calm. the number of casualties will be more than any of us can bear ultimately. those of us who are here have to defend freedom by going through our lives unafraid.

>> he stepped forward to be a leader. >> that was the man meeting the moment. >> fast forward to giuliani becomes the story of rise and fall. >> we're going to fight to the very end to make sure they don't take away our free and fair vote. >> rudy giuliani arguing he wasn't literally advocating for insurrection. >> to understand the arc of rudy giuliani, one has to appreciate how intoxicating fame and power are. >> there was always this tension between genuine public service and the pursuit of glory of giuliani. >> [ bleep ]. >> rudy is not a guy who backs down. rudy is a guy who doubles down. >> stand up and be defiant. in america, that's what they love. >> "giuliani: what happened to america's mayor," tomorrow at 8:00 on cnn. and then on sunday night, "the whole story" breaks down the georgia indictment of the former president. that's it for us, have a great weekend. the news continues. "the source" with kaitlan "the source" with kaitlan collins starts now.