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the clock is ticking and trump's remaining co-defendants have two hours to go to jail to be booked and the consequences will be swift if they don't. this is as the district attorney is calling for the trial to begin in less than two months. inmate po-118359. the historic mugshot that can be yours on the t-shirt for $34 and why everyone wants a piece of this for their own political purposes. in maui, the county has filed suit against the local utility companies as what is

causing the deadliest wildfires in 100 years. with john berman and sara sidner, this is cnn news cent central. >> all right. if trump's final two co-defendants in georgia don't turn themselves in the next two hours, d.a. fani willis says that arrest warrants will be issued for them. they both must go through the system, and something that the ex-president did last night. when donald trump went from the 45th president to inmate po-0018319, and a new title as america has the first ever mugshot of a former president. in cinematic fashion, he traveled to the jail to face the fourth indictment this year, and this morning, major questions of how and how quickly this case is now going to move forward. the fulton county district

attorney fani willis has her sights set on october 23rd for all 19 co-defendant, and the judge has agreed to it, and that is less than two months from now, and we begin this hour with jessica schneider of how this is going to be unfolding, and the crit tall stages ahead. jessica? >> well, sara, it is a busy and monumental week in georgia, but monday, we are set to see more at the federal courthouse in atlanta, and the federal courthouse right here in washington. first, what we can expect in georgia monday. that is when mark meadows is arguing to the judge that his case should be moved to the federal court and then thrown out, because as he has been arguing, and he will be arguing that he is acting as a federal officer in all of the alleged conduct and this is to allow for removal and dismissal of the charges. but fani willis is ready for the hearing and lined up several witnesses to dispute that contention and this is including the secretary of state brad

raffensperger, and he was at the center of the phone call from trump on january 2020 to ask him to find more than 10,000 votes for the former president to prevail over joe biden. so raffensperger is going to be at the hearing along with a few more witnesses. also, right here in washington, a hearing involving trump, the elections subversion case when tonya chutkin is going to talk about when that trial should start. counsel jack smith wants it to be in a few months from now, and trump's team is asking to push it off to 2026, and we know that fani willis in georgia is asking to try trump as soon as october, and the judge is approving the 2023 start date, so sara, a lot is swirling here in the next few week, and we will continue to see the hearings, but a lot is

lined up for monday, both in georgia and in washington. you know, the cases that will implicate trump or the co-defendants like mark meadows. sara? >> so many cases to juggle, and you do it so well. jessica schneider. thank you. and now, immediately fund-raising from the shot heard around the world as john berman would say, the main fund-raising page attached and even more, there is an official mugshot merch, and the campaign is launching "never surrender" mugs and bumper stickers and he did have to surrender to the county jail, and now, kristen holmes is going to join us from his bedminster home, and what more is donald trump saying about his arrest? >> well, kate, look, i want to

talking about the mug shot and how much he is promoting it, because i talked to a number of campaign advisers before they knew if they were going to have to take it, and they did not want him to take this mug shot. remember, when he was arraigned in new york, they put on a fake photo, and they didn't want the real thing, because they wanted to control what they were going to take out, and once it is clear they would take the mug shot, they had lots of conversations with the former president who cares about the optic, and about how he would look and pose for that mug shot, and they came up with the idea that he would not smile so he would look quote, unquote defiant, and as you mentioned, then they took off with it. they posted it on x, formerly known as twitter, and this is something that we have been talking about for years when he was banned from twitter and then reinstated of whether or not he would tweet, and this is another example of trump taking control of the media narrative around it. now, when it comes to what trump

is saying to the advisers and those near him, he is agitated as he has been with the multiple charges and irked particularly by the case in georgia. he was asked last night about the co-defendants and he said that he looked at some of the mug shots and he realized that he did not know some of them, and the ones that he did know, they are people whose lives have been ruined, and to keep in mind that these people, and most of the people are charged with trying to impact the election in 2020 in his benefit. >> all right. kristen holmes, thank you so much for that. john? >> all right. i'll take it. while we still do not know when trump's georgia trial will begin, we do now know as jessica schneider was pointing out, his co-defendant kenneth cheseboro's trial is to begin, october 23rd which is eight weeks away, and

8.43 weeks away to be clear here. it is because chesebro requested a speedy trial. and now, joining us is elie honig, and former prosecutor michael zelden, and this is lost over the mug shot yesterday, but there is a trial set for 59 days from now in the georgia case, and it is not trump's, but man, this matters. >> it is such a big deal, because what has happened here is that the one defendant of 19, mr. chesebro wants a speedy trial, and you have a right under georgia trial to have a trial before the next judicial term. and if this holds, we will see a trial, and as you are trying the trial against mr. chesebro, you will have to put up all of the evidence, and you know who is sitting in the gallery watching

that every move? the lawyers and the defendants of the other 18 people in this case, and taking notes and building the strategy and what is working for the prosecutors and the holes to exploit, and if this trial is going on, and a, we will see a trial, and b, it is enormous tactical advantage. >> and we will be seeing a trial, and cameras in the courtroom gaeogeorgia, and who called whose bluff? >> kenneth chesebro said, you want to call 19 of us on racketeer, prove it by halloween. and we used to say, what if every defendant wanted a speedy trial, and fani willis said, fine, you want a speedy trial, fine, october 23rd, and she is ready to go, too. >> and so, michael zelden, do donald trump's interests align here with kenneth chese bxro?

>> well, they align legally in a sense that if you have a preview of the case tried against you, you have a advantage. and chesebro was the author of the fake elector scheme. you can put on the broad scope of the conspiracy and the hub of it, and say that he was the spoke that did this, and i rest my case. they don't have a lot of trouble putting in a very tight case. politically, of course, trump wants this case in 2026 after the election which is at odds with chesebro and they will argue over the politics of the timing, but as the law goes, it is a advantage to defendants not been tried the, but i am not sure it is an advantage to chesebro to go to quickly, and he may say, look, i played a little role, and get rid of me, and acquit me, and get the

people above me. >> and to be clear, the trial is set for october 23rd, but it could change, and chesebro could back out? >> yes, he could withdraw the request for speedy trial, or the judge could ask if others want to be part of that and there could be severance and enjoiner, and so it is not as if he requested it, but it is his right to do so. >> to be clear, and again, i wanted the audience the know, october 23rd, eight weeks away, there is a trial set at this point by the judge in georgia that is on tv, and that is a big deal. we are days away, elie, from another key moment in the courtroom, and this is the federal case by donald trump to overturn the election, and the judge is going to have a hearing and decide when the trial will start. >> yes, she is going to go between the extremes.

so if decides she wants to go to 2026, and of course, it has to be fitting in and judge chutkin wants to have a big broad case, and it is not a straight forward case, absolutely not. if you have had to deal with a courtroom in this case involving a fraud to steal the election, there are 11 million document, and you want to push for the quick trial if you are a judge, but you can't trample on the due process that the defendant has. >> michael zelden, is this happening before election day? >> it couldn't a it should, and it is a complicate case, but i believe it is the same as what

was engaged with this crime and in order to do this event that could be laid out. yes, 11 million documents, but they are boiling down to essential few of those, and adds we are tried with thousands of documents, they are do-able. >> one thing that is clear, she have let us know how soon she wants to have this trial, because she is moving quickly on the decisions. >> thank you both much. >> and now, the arrest is threatening to overshadow the political campaign trails. and now, in maui, the new lawsuit that the state has just filed ahead. newspaper articles,rmati, how many people were livining in the house and where it was, makes me curious and keeps pulling me in

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all right. we have new information just into cnn and one more of donald trump's co-defendants has turned themselves into the fulton county jail, and this is just about two hours ahead of the noon deadline. the former publicist for r. kelly and kayne west has turned herself in, and now that leaves one person left to turn himself n and he has two hours to do so before an arrest warrant is going to be put out for him. and now, presidential hopefuls and the campaign trail after the first debate and after the georgia arrest, and senator tim scott in new hampshire, and ron desantis and vivek ram

swsramaswamy reupping that he will pardon trump. >> and i will pardon trump for any federal crime that i will be able to, and the reason is that it is a precondition for moving the nation forward. and steve contorno is in iowa with ron desantis, and what is he saying today? >> john, governor desantis is making it clear that he is not interested in talking about the events of january 6th, 2021, or the stacking indictments against donald trump. listen to what he was talking about yesterday as president trump was getting booked into that fulton county jail. >> the candidates have to decide

how much to indulge in this, and you can ask me to parse that as january 6th, 2021 and i can parse it for you or tell you that i am interested in january 25th, 2025. and if republicans let it overwhelm, it will, but we don't have to let it overwhelm, and we can talk about people's future. >> reporter: desantis made those comments at the field of dreams, and the ball park made famous by the movie of kevin costner, and he was there with his wife and young kids, and even though they are not talking about the indictment, he is playing up a contrast where he has the young and dynamic family with him doing the wholesome all-american events through the heartland, and at the same time that donald trump is getting the mug shot taken, and it is interesting dynamic, and the tour will continue through western iowa, and continue to hit all 99 counties in the state as he is

trying to build support for the caucuses next january. >> he is trying to build a picture of what the campaign going to look like, and is this in fact a traditional campaign. steve contorno, thank you. >> you missed opportunity. you of all people. >> if you build it, will they come. >> and now it is if you build it, they will come. and now, alex cohen is a communications director for marco rubio's previous campaign, and now, thank you for coming in. and we will play a game called the traditional republican campaign versus running a campaign against dr. so, let's say that you are a candidate with a strong debate performance, and the next day, frontrunner gets booked in the county jail and have a mug shot released. the day after that, you do what with a traditional campaign? >> well, i think that with a traditional campaign, you

clearly point to the guy who was just arrested and suggest that he should not be the party's leader or the next president of the united states. but, kate, this is as you know not a traditional campaign, and you are running against donald trump, and he has a loyal base. 25% of the par city going to vote for him no matter how many times he is going to be arrested. right now, donald trump is leading by a lot, and a lot of republicans are open to another candidate, and so when the guy that is arrested, you make the point that he is a better candidate than the one just booked. >> and then with the image of the you build it, they will come, and thank you, jim massena

of course, the campaign manager of marco rubio. and now, as alex pointed out, you would run the day after this frontrunner has a maug shot takn and released, and you run all over that, and plaster it, and so that is not what the republicans are doing, and to their peril or are they are trying to walk on the knife's edge that may or may not exist in order to win over the republican base, >> well, to beat the king, you have to take him down, and right now, they are acting like his friend, and someone has to draw a contrast. i agree with allen, you have to

draw a contrast between yourself and donald trump. in the debate, nobody did. that is a huged opportunity, and i don't know how many teams if they are going to have that opportunity, and so far, they are not up to it. >> and that is vivek raswammy, and listen to this. >> with everything that needs to be revived, this is a team sport. i expect them to support. >> and what is the impact of him on the race? >> he is running for vice president, and this is only thing. he did everything but kiss donald trump in that debate. he understands that he is not

going to be the republican nominee, and he is not stupid, and so he is running for the vice president, and worst case, a member of the cabinet. barack obama once said to me, that he put almost every single person that he ran against in the primary in his cabinet, and so some of these people were auditioning for roles. there sis a new poll out of howa trump conviction would impact how supporters would impact their vote. the supporter said no impact on their likelihood of supporting trump the or more likely to support him. if that is the case, can you change that as a campaign? >> yeah, look, that poll is tracking with the poll of the firehouse tragedies that my firm did, and they are showing that

donald trump these trials will have an impact, and i don't know if that is the run in part that the hope is going to fall, because hope is not a strategy as the poll shows. i think that donald trump could really shoot somebody on fifth avenue, and the base would not abandon him, and he would continue to be the nominee. in terms of winning the primary which is the task at hand, it is not employing a strat je and for the electorate to have the

>> and so now let me ask you what actually change this week, and the only answer is nothing changed. >> that and the fourth mug shot there with the former president, and clearly nothing changed in debate. nothing has changed. >> we will do it again. sara. >> thank you, sara. the number of people tied in the blazes of the wildfires and now what it was like for those who were stuck hundreds of feet in

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>> this is cnn, the world news network. investigators in hawaii have a better idea of how many people are still miss on maui, and the number has dropped drastically, and it started with more than a thousand people missing which is standing at 388 which is a staggering number of missing people, and the authorities have

compiled a list of missing and they are hoping that people will come forward, and at this point, 118 people are confirmed dead. now the blame game of who sparked the fire. now, hawaii electric and the subsidiaries are to blame says the maui county. this morning the court documents obtained from the washington post says that maui electric is accused of removing the poles and other equipment from where the fire started, and they say they are in constant communication with the groups there to investigate, and they have photographed and document and stored the items removed. now i am joined by chief intelligence analyst john miller

who has picked out a snazzy tie this morning and wai just wante to point it out this morning. and if hawaii electric moved, it is considered evidence, right? what is the evidence here? >> well, under the subtext the here is if there is a cover-up, and done deliberately, and hawaiian electric says that we were trying to remove carefully cata cataloged, stored and we have it, and we know where it is, and they say no such thing is going on, and the challenge is that as the plafs, and nine lawsuit which will turn into more and accountability which is the transformers damaged by hurricanes and winds and other thing, were they not properly

maintained and were they sparking to start these fires and started other fires and that tells the story of the terrible loss that incurred, and will the investigators be able to reconstruct it. >> i am concerned bt the atf on the ground, and why are they there? >> they hold the ticket of the federal investigations on arson and not just explosives. they have excellent arson investigators and a first-rate lab, and probably when it comes to arson, the best in the country, but limited experience in forest fires, because the forest service does it, because it is usually on the national parks or national forest land, and this is not done on land

that was federally owned, and so now they are going to have to look at the items and see where was the origin of the science, and see where it moved. the job is going to be harder, but they are very good at it. >> i did not realize that they had this huge arson investigation, because i think of them as guns and bombs. >> guns and bombs. >> exactly. john miller, i always learn something from you, but you can come back everyday. it is a big ask. >> thank you for checking with us first, sara. and harrowing drone footage of the rescue of the eight people stranded in cable car for 14 hours and six children and two adults clung to the car 900 feet over the valley in northwest pakistan on the way to school. this video was obtained by the bbc and we don't know original source. all on board were brought to safety with the helicopters ultimately and a zip line, and

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on monday, the nation is going to commemorate the historic march on washington when hundreds of thousands marched through the streets of the nation's capitol to fight for jobs and freedom and the day of the martin luther king's i have a dream speech, and it was critical to pass for laws including the overt racial discrimination laws, and those who were there at that march say that the fight for equality is still not over. >> what do we want now?

>> freedom. >> reporter: it was a call for economic and racial equality and a call to action that brought more than 200,000 people to the national mall in washington, d.c., on august 28th, 60 years ago, and a day best remembered for martin luther king jr.'s historic "i have a dream" speech. >> now is the time to make real the promises of democracy. >> reporter: among the hundreds of thousands, two young activists filled with hope. >> i was all of the way on the top. >> reporter: all of the way on the top to the left. >> yeah, over to the left. >> reporter: courtland cox is 82, and 60 years ago, he was a 22-year-old working for the civil rights organization sncc, the student nonviolent coordinating committee. >> what i remember is that the platform is there in the dead center. >> reporter: and robert flanagan was there, too. >> i was sitting there on the wall up the of the entertainers.

>> reporter: flanagan is 80 now, and on the day of the march, he was a 20-year-old who had just finished his shift as a waiter, and like scores of others, he wanted to take a stand for civil rights. >> i was very close to joan biaz, and i noticed that she was barefoot, and i had on a brand-new pair of shoes. >> she was barefoot? ♪ we are not afraid ♪ >> and a march six decades ago seen through the eyes of two different men that shared the same goal of many that day. >> it was in fact, a march for jobs and freedom. >> the thought today is that we succeeded in changing the country. >> reporter: and cox was responsible for arranging safe transportation for the people coming from the south to washington, d.c., and there were challenging top-to-bottom and many had to be done in very little time. >> the challenge from the bottom was the logistics of getting

people here, and over an eight-week period, i am trying to get the trailways buses, and greyhound bus, and the drivers are saying, look, it is dangerous the bring the people from the south, and the challenge at the top was the kennedy administration was opposed to john lewis' speech. >> reporter: cox worked alongside the 23-year-old activist john lewis who was chairman of sncc, and this is the look of the speech to tone it down to look less critical of the kennedy civil rights bill, which they felt it did not go far enough to protect people from police brutality. >> and there we were in back of the little car to revise the speech. >> that must have been incredible. >> yes, and after all of that controversy, john got up there

to deliver a very good speech. >> we come without reservation. >> reporter: this week, flanagan brought his daughter bax to the place history was made. he'll be back saturday. >> this is where the entertainers were. >> reporter: cox is going to prefer to stay away, and he says that the marching days are behind him. both agree that much was accomplished that i dashgs but the work is not over. >> while we are better today than in 1963, we are not where we thought we would be 60 years on. >> we have succeeded in a number of things of the past, but we have to do much more for the future. >> reporter: both mr. cox and mr. flanagan express grave concern as well as civil right leaders are doing the same that there is an ongoing effort in this day and age to try to turn the clock back, and this is why they are so concerned about where we are now, and big

concerns of what is happening as the people are trying to erase african-american history. >> jason, to sit with people who touched history and who were there, and to see the picture revising john lewis' speech. >> and the memory is crystal clear. >> thank you, jason. >> that is an awesome look. thank you, jason, for that. and you have seen the mug shot, and up next, the arraignment, and what is next for donald trump now that he has been booked on for mall charges in georgia. have americans reached a tipping point with tipping? a new cnn report is next. i'm m hitting your cooler. and your cut-ratee car insurance might not pay for all this. so get a allstate.

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nearly, nearly everywhere you go, it seems like you are being asked to leave a tip whether it is a coffee shop, taxi, salon, and this is leading to confusion these days at the checkout about whether a tip is requiredsh and if so, how much. because for some workers it is essential, but there a lot of debate that has been sparked around all of it. cnn's vanessa has more. >> this screen is deceptive. >> does it give you a option? >> yes, doordash, uber, everything. >> reporter: do you believe tipping is out of control? >> yes. >> reporter: tips are part of the culture to be thank you for good service, but many americans are confronted with the question, are you wanting to add

a tip? >> if you are at the hairstylist or coming out of the taxi and i don't know the rules then, and i don't know what to tip. >> reporter: a recent study said that a high number of people who were presented with a tip screen had a negative emotion with the payment experience than others and it was not a real world scenario. >> if you are in the coffee shop, and they turn around the laptop, why am i tipping? >> reporter: but the group we spoke to said more often than not they tip. >> i put a dollar or two, and i don't mind it, but as long as it is not a lot, i put it, because at the end of the day, i am helping out other people. >> and in this one, if you would like to tip. >> a flip screen in a butcher shop. i have not seen it before? >> yes. >> reporter: how did you decide to do that? >> these men and women have a knowledge base that they are sharing and taking care to share

with the guests that come through the door, and they are not pressured to tip, but they want to, because they are paying for a service provided. >> does anyone have a knife or fork i can grab. >> reporter: she owns a 3wu67er shop, and two restaurants in new haven, connecticut. and they make the tipped minimum wage at $18.36 an hour, and the tips make them up to $40 an hour, and the back staff are not eligible for tips. >> it is a movement to get rid of the tips, and are you for it or against it? >> against it. and it is clueless. >> reporter: eight stages have abolished the tip wage which is $2.35 an hour, and the wage institution is fighting against it. >> it is coming out of my pocket to tip the people who are not tipping and that is going to

cause pushback. >> and those who have a balanced measure in 25 other states including illinois. >> that is how i live is with tips. >> reporter: destiny fox works in two chicago restaurant, and she is saving up for school. she makes just above the state's tipped minimum wage taking home $9.40 an hour. tips add 80% to her take-home pay. without it? >> it would not give me the means to live, to, to pay my bills, to eat, to do the things that i am planning on doing, school, and i mean, it is, it is every everything. >> reporter: this is a complicated issue, but the consensus is if you receive good service or makes your day at the coffee shop, tip, a dollar or two at the coffee shop, and one thing to know, when they flip the screen on you, the person who is serving you actually

doesn't know if you tip or not, and how much. >> that is interest, because i think that is part of it. >> takes the pressure off, right? >> yes, but it is also important to see the faces behind that screen that turns in your face and to see the people behind the tip, if you will. >> it is based on the service, and how well you think that the person served you is how much the tip should be. >> thank you, vanessa. >> sara? >> about an hour left for the last of the trump co-defendants to turn himself into the fulton county jail, and now, the judges aggree to a date two months from now, and what happens next? stay with us, and we will have the answer.

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