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meanwhile, donald trump is attempting to make the most of his arrest, trying to fund raise off of his mugshot. we'll have all the details ahead. also ahead, those mortgage rates at a 22-year high and they may not be dropping any time soon as inflation remains high. federal reserve chair jerome powell says even more interest rate hikes are on the wall. we'll talk about that and how it plays into this jekyll and hyde economy. all of that and more here on "cnn news central." from the 45th president to inmate p01135809. last night the world saw america's first-ever presidential mugshot after donald trump surrendered on rico charges as they're known in

georgia. part of a sweeping indictment against 19 people for attempting to overturn the 2020 election in georgia. the surrenders are now done. the legal updates are just beginning. the latest co-defendant tied to the fact elector's scheme said she was acting at trump's direction, and she is not the first one to make that argument in court. jessica schneider is covering the legal thread. jessica, a defendant pointing a finger at trump saying in effect he delivered the orders, i followed them. she's the third, i believe, to do this. tell us the significance. >> yeah. this could be just part of the cascade that we're seeing in these legal filings that keep coming in. this one from kathy latham, she was one of the fake electors that prosecutors signed the paperwork claiming trump was the winner of georgia in 2020 when he wasn't. now he's charged as part of this

broad plot to steal the 2020 election. in her feeling today, she's asking for the case to be moved to federal court and saying it should be moved to federal court because she was following the orders of then president trump. she said in performing the duties, mrs. latham was acting to assist congress in its count and announcement of electoral votes for president and vice president of the united states. mrs. latham was furthermore acting to assist the president and was following the advice of the president's legal counsel for the purpose of preserving the challenge to the election results. cathy latham is joining four other defendants who say they want their cases moved out of county court to federal court because they say they were acting in some official capacity. we've seen this with mark meadows. he said it was because he was trump's chief of staff. jeffrey clark saying because he was an official at the justice department. now we're seeing this accused

fake elector, cathy latham, saying she was acting under the former president's direction. trying to broaden out this argument and it's possible that other defendants may follow their lead. either way, this is adding to the cascade of legal filings that we're seeing as we see these, you know, 18 plus defendants jockeying for how they'll proceed in the case that the d.a. says she wants to bring to trial as soon as mid to late october. there's going to be a lot to see in the coming weeks and months. >> it would seem to substantiate the d.a.'s case against trump that he had this plan that he was telling other folks to carry out for him. october trial date set for one of the defendants, kenneth cheseboro, but he requested a speedy trial. does this affect the timeline for trump's trial? >> yeah.

i mean, you know, fani willis initially said she wanted to try all 19 defendants, including the former president together. now we're seeing this fracturing of defendants with cheseboro saying i want it quick, i want it under the speedy trial act. it's likely we could see all sorts of trial dates and they won't be as quickly as october. and we have all these other legal hearings, trial start dates. right now on the calendar we're seeing that the new york attorney general's trial is slated to start in early october. then you've got maybe the georgia trial in late october, and january 2nd of next year, another cascade of trials. if the special counsel gets his way, he'll start january 2nd. the hearing to decide the trial start date in that case, in the election subversion case is on

monday. judge tanya chuckin could side to side with the special counsel and make it in the early part of next year. trump's saying we don't want it until 2026. there's a lot playing out in the next few weeks. >> a lot of lawyers don't think that 2026 date is realistic. all 19 defendants have surrendered? >> yeah. earlier today, it was the kanye west-linked ped publicist. she's alleged of driving down from her chicago home and come down here to intimidate an election worker. she said freeman was a loose end that needed to be tidied up. about an hour before the noon

deadline for all co-defendants to turn themselves in, we saw pastor steven lee surrender to authorities. lee is accused of doing the same thing, driving down from illinois to knock on the door of ruby freeman. freeman actually called police. after lee surrendered, his lawyer said not only does lee not personally know the former president, but that his client came down here only to knock on doors. >> yeah. you know, i guess i've seen that happen with some jehovahs witnesses, people from the latter-day saints. this is a pastor. >> did he come down to proselytize are you saying? >> now you're asking about some particular specifics. >> you brought up jehovah's witness. you said people knock on doors all the time. so he came and knocked on a door having nothing to do with the subversion of the election here?

>> absolutely not. >> so, a glimpse there into the possible defense of pastor steven lee. also overnight, former doj official, jeffrey clark turned himself in. he's charged as well in this rico indictment. as jessica was reporting, we look ahead to monday to the former chief of staff of the former president, mark meadows, as he tries to get his case moved from georgia and a state courthouse to a federal courthouse. >> knocking on the door to spread religion is one thing. intimidating election workers, that's the allegation, is another. nick valencia and jessica, thank you very much. he's the first former u.s. president to pose for a mugshot. less than two hours later he became the first presidential candidate to use a mugshot for political gain. making his silence on x, formerly known as twitter,

seemingly coining a new campaign slogan, never surrender. elena, what else is trump saying about his arrest? >> the former president, you're hearing the full range of his rhetoric here. you are hearing him be defiant and use that bravado, both in his public interviews as well as on social media, trying to monetize off of his surrender as well as that mugshot that was taken. he's also privately discussing how he's frustrated by this and he did say in an interview that he thought it was a terrible experience. let's listen to what he had to say. >> terrible experience. i came in. i was treated very nicely, but it is what it is. i took a mugshot, which i never heard the words mugshot, that wasn't -- they didn't teach me that at the wharton school of

finance. and i have to go through a process. it's election interference. >> former president trump is calling it election interference, continuing to attack the fulton county district attorney, fani willis, but he did say this was a terrible experience. i want to share some reporting on the mugshot. i know donald trump's team had discussed what they wanted him to look like in that mugshot prior to him going to the jail and taking it. they had discussions about how he should appear. ultimately the former president decided he wanted to appear "de "defiant" rather than smile and give off the impression that he takes this seriously. he's frustrated about this. he had to go through this process four times. he had never had to take a mugshot before, but he is not

enjoying having to come forward and go through these types of experiences. i think you can see that. he's starting to have some of that leak out in his public media interviews. >> it's hard to imagine anyone would enjoy this. clearly he's not. thank you very much. i want to bring in anna bauer now, the fulton county correspondent from law fair. co-defendant kenneth cheseboro, the architect of this fake elector's plan, key of what's happening in fulton county, he's set to go to trial very quickly, october 23rd. this is just eight weeks from now. how do you see that affecting other trials and maybe getting a preview of the case? >> right. so you have to keep in mind that fani willis said she wanted to try all 19 of these

co-defendants together. typically when you have co-defendants who are all listed in the same indictment, that is how it would go unless the co-defendants could do severance, separate themselves from the case and other co-defendants. so we know from filings with president trump after cheseboro made this motion for a speedy trial and judge mcafee set the date, trump said he does not want to go to trial that soon. i am expecting that other co-defendants don't want to go to trial that soon either. usually judges, whenever a defense attorney or defendant says we won't be ready for trial at that expedited rate, a judge will take that seriously. and if these co-defendants or trump make motions to sever, i

think the judge is likely to grant that. i think we see that chesebro goes to trial in october, and the rest of the defendants, maybe together, maybe separate, go much later on. what that means is that that's a strategic advantage for them because they'll watch how his trial plays out and kind of what fani willis' trial strategy will be and how they'll try the case. that's an advantage for them and may very well be helpful for the defense. it's going to be a bit of a practice round for them to watch. you have five co-defendants who want to move their trials to federal court. who do you think among them has the best chance and what could this mean for the former president legally? >> right. i think that the person who out the gate made the first notice of removal was mark meadows. he seems to have the strongest

argument here. the others, especially in the last few days, the fake electors, it's a bit more attenuated. meadows is able to make the argument under this removal statute which allows officials or former federal officials who are prosecuted for state crimes, that is related to their official duties as federal officials, they're able to move their case to federal court as long as they can prove that they were acting within the scope of their federal duties. mark meadows made an argument that the things he has alleged to have done, setting up meetings, making phone calls, those are things that were within his scope of duties as the chief of staff to the president. that is kind of the strongest argument we've seen so far. i think it's likely to fail, though the bar for removal is

very low. as you said, we have this crucial hearing coming up on monday. a federal judge will hear arguments and evidence on meadows' motion to remove. there's been four witnesses who have been called including brad raffensperger, the secretary of state -- the current secretary of state of georgia. raffensperger was on that phone call in january of 2021 where trump urged him to find votes, for trump to win the election. so, we're going to probably hear testimony at that hearing and have a preview of fani willis' case against meadows. it really could be a crucial hearing because when the judge decides this issue on removal, even meadows removing to federal court could bring the whole gang with him. there's precedent where everyone

is removed. it's really an important hearing and we'll see what happens. >> yeah. we'll certainly be watching that closely with you. anna bower, thank you very much. always great to have you. jim? while trump is trying to raise money off his mugshot and surrender, his gop opponents are raising campaign funds now following the debate. we'll tell you how they're doing so far. and a mixed picture on the economi economy. there's low unemployment, solid stock market, but still high debt and delinquencies and a new trial finds the weight loss drug wegovy is helping patients with heart failure now. that's just ahead. you're watching "cnn news central."

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jerome powell. >> though inflation has moved down from its peak, a welcomed development, it remains too high. we are prepared to raise rates further if appropriate and intend to hold policy at a restrictive level until we're confident that inflation is moving sustainably down towards our objective. >> powell also said that the economy is growing faster than expected and americans are still spending a lot, which is good news and bad news because those trends do fuel inflation, which is giving us this weird kind of mixed bag economy. the good news here, and there is good news, the jobless rate is near historic lows at 3.5%. gdp, the best measure of economic output is at 2.3%. and retail sales keep beating expectations, too. on top of that, the markets are still trading near record highs. of course there is some bad

news. credit card debt in america just passed $1 trillion for the first time ever. credit card delinquencies are still rising, hitting over 7%. mortgage rates now at a painful 7.77%. that's the highest rate that we've seen in 22 years. and bank of america's reporting that there is a 36% jump in people taking hardship withdrawals from their 401(k)s. we have some things that fall somewhere in between the good and the bad. inflation has fallen significantly. it's at 3.2% from the peak of 9.1% last june. powell wants it at 2%. the average cost of a gallon of regular gas, that's at $3.83. that's down from a record high of $5.01 last june. but that's been creeping up over the past few weeks. and wages do keep rising, which is great for workers, it does add to inflation and there have been several labor strikes, could be more, which helped

workers secure better work conditions. often at a cost which is disrupted services and supply chains. moments ago, members of the united auto workers union overwhelmingly approved possible strikes at gm, ford and red sox t e stelantis. that will make getting cars cost more. >> they want better benefits, we'll see how that shakes out. joins us to discuss is matt higgins of rse ventures. good to have you on, matt. listen, it's a complicated picture. the headline numbers are very good. unemployment rate, gdp growth, consumer spending and the stock market, which is driven by a lot of things, but also corporate earnings, it's quite high right now. explain to folks at home, is

this a strong economy? >> no, actually we are in a pandemic-fueled stimulus-fueled vortex where good news is bad news. what the fed is not saying, what the white house is not saying is the reality is in order to get inflation down to 2%, unemployment will settle at around 5.5%. 5.5% will mean millions of jobs will be lost. that's the bottom line. what the fed reiterated today is 2% is our target, we're sticking with it. >> is that the right target? as you know better than me, there's a lot that goes into that inflation pressure. it's a global issue now. yes, some driven by stimulus here, but also supply chain issues. there's a reason european countries have higher inflation as well. is there an argument for the fed to say we don't need 2% today because the cost of 2% inflation is millions of jobs.

>> i'm so grateful that the fed is sticking with it. i think it's a disaster. you'll see political pressure fueled by the election to move away from that 2% target because the consequences and the pain are very real. the reality is this entire boom we're dealing with at the moment is fueled by stimulus. there's about $500 billion left in bank accounts from the stimulus era. that will be depleted by the end of the year. you have two headwinds that will hit the consumer, stimulus money is gone, and you'll have student loan payments kickback in in december. the reality is the consumer is 70% of the gdp. that's why we're not seeing the consequences of these rate hikes. >> so, for folks watching at home who have personal financial decisions to make, both on spending and savings and how much they save for retirement, what is your advice to folks at home? >> my advice is hunker down and conserve cash.

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. the iowa caucuses less than five months away and candidates vying for the republican nomination are hoping to gain momentum following this week's first presidential debate. a post-debate poll showing potential republican primary voters were most impressed by ron desantis, vivek ramaswamy and nikki haley. the desantis campaign says it raised more than $1 million in the first 24 hours after the debate. today he's out campaigning in iowa hoping to ride that wave even as former president trump continues to dominate the national polls. steve is live for us in iowa. what is the desantis campaign saying?

>> the desantis campaign is pretty upbeat about his performance on wednesday night. they believe despite some concerns with the focus of the questions from debate moderat moderators, that he demonstrated he was above the bickering and fray that other candidates went through and he did a lot to quell the concerns of donors and supporters who went into the past week with a lot of questions about the desantis campaign given all the struggles they had of the summer. you talked about the fund-raising they've seen since the debate, that's emboldened them and now it's about changing hearts and minds in iowa on the road. that's why he's here today. he's been touring the state, trying to hit all 99 counties. he hit 39 today. he's going to spend some time getting to know these voters and touching it's a many palms as possible. he's also avoiding talking about the elephant who wasn't in the room, donald trump. i tried to get him to talk about the mugshot the former president

took yesterday, but he had some pointed remarks about 2024 that seemed pointed at the former president. listen to what he said. >> if this election is about a candidate like me that's a proven leader, got a proven record, has served this country in uniform and i'm out there every day holding joe biden accountable for his failures and showing the american people that there's a better way that we can reverse the decline of the country, we'll win across the board. >> the desantis campaign also believes that people are just tuning in to this race and the debate was the starting point for the fall where we're going to start seeing these candidates kick things into gear. certainly the people i spoke with today at the desantis events, they said that this is just now -- they're just now starting to pay attention. that the debate is when they first started watching and seeing how the candidates compared to each other. know that desantis is here,

they're excited to get the chance to see him up close and hear from him and other folks as much as they can over the next five months. >> his family is kind of stealing the show, i have to tell you. one of his daughters is running rings around mom, rings around mom and dad. then his eldest daughter just pulls ron desantis's wife casey off the stage by grabbing her t-shirt. it's funny. you have to give it to little kids. they just don't care. >> it's a split screen that they like. that's a dynamic that the campaign wants to play up. showing his young family, doing all-american type activities versus trump who has been mostly campaigning without his wife, without his children and spending time getting booked at a county jail. >> that is quite the contrast indeed that we're seeing here. steve in iowa, thank you so much for that report. president biden has not been talking about trump's charges but he's seizing on significant

moments from the republican candidates' debate launching a $25 million ad campaign just this morning focused notably on the issue of abortion. >> governor desantis, you signed a six-week abortion ban in florida. >> i believe in a culture of life. >> president biden and vice president harris are determined to restore roe v. wade and they will never allow a national abortion ban to become law. >> joining us now is senior editor for the atlantic, ron brownstein, also joining us is susan page. susan, the abortion issue has markedly driven voters not just in blue states but in red states, in a number of elections and referendums that we've seen,

is this smart for biden to focus on. >> no smarter issue. ohio is almost certainly to pass a ballot measure in november to protect abortion rights. we saw in the midterms last year, that is an issue that denied republicans the red wave they expected. this issue is so powerful, especially with independent voters and especially with independent women. no other issue is as good for democrats as that issue. >> ron, in the republican debate, most of the candidates were falling over each other to stake out a harsher position on abortion with the exception of nikki haley, who injected, well, some emotion, some understanding into it. mentioning, for instance, she doesn't believe a woman should go to jail, should be prosecuted for having an abortion. given where the party stands on this issue and where primary voters stand on the issue, is

there -- is that a winning issue for her in the primaries? or can you get out of a gop primary and have a middle of the road position if that's the right expression on abortion? >> right. that is a critical question, particularly about the issue of whether or not to support a national ban on abortion, which several of the republican candidates have explicitly endorsed and others like trump and desantis have not explicitly endorsed but strongly suggested that they would sign as president. i think if you got to a general election they would be forced to clarify that. if you look at the midterm, what we saw was a very bifurcated response that has big implications for '24. in the red-leaning states that actually did ban abortion, places like florida, texas, iowa, georgia, there was not a significant backlash against the republican governors. it was not enough to move republican -- people who

normally vote republican to vote democratic. but in the purple states, it was a different story. whether we're talking about michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, arizona. in all of those, over 60% of voters said abortion should remain legal, and three quarters of them or more in each state voted for democrats for governor even though they were overwhelmingly dissatisfied with the economy and joe biden's performance. that's a measure of how much of a headwind republicans will face in the critical states likely to decide which party gets to 270 in 2024. >> susan, the desantis campaign is claiming that it raised more than $1 million the first 24 hours after the debate, the perception was that he was not the center of attention, you might argue that vivek ramaswamy was. as you watched the debate, based on what you've seen so far, has anyone distinguished themselves as a more credible contender to

trump? >> you know, desantis didn't make any big mistakes, but he also didn't make a big impression. vivek ramaswamy made a dig impression. the surprise was nikki haley who came out on the issue of abortion with a more moderate, nuanced stance, a very politically more realistic stance. in response to that first question about the national debt, she criticized trump for adding $8 trillion. later she said he wasn't electable. she said he was the most hated politician in america. she took a much tougher stance towards trump. she came across as a candidate to pay attention to as we go along with this primary campaign. >> she, in fact, fact-checked the others on stage and even the moderators saying wait a second, you're portraying this the wrong way. ron brownstein, susan page, thank you very much. still to come on "cnn news central" -- extreme heat will be

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. just a blistering heat wave is spreading across the midwest and the deep south from the gulf coast up to the carolinas. houston tying its hottest day on record yesterday with, get this, 109 degrees. the atlanta area could see a heat index today of 109. derek van dam is sweating it out at the pga tour championship. this is tough. look, this is tough. i know you're just walking in golf, but they walk quickly and

they're out there for hours. this is a really tough situation. >> yeah, you said it best. there is no escaping this heat, whether or not you're an athlete or a spectator. it doesn't matter. it's brutal. the air is thick. it's muggy. it currently feels like 105 degrees. we might get up to 106 to 107 at east lake specifically where the pga tour championship is taking place. get this, there's a heat advisory that lasts through the entire weekend all the way to the end of sunday. that takes us through the end of this championship tour. talking to the pga tour executive director, he says he doesn't want the players to focus on, well, getting overheated or dehydrated. he wants them to focus squarely on the $18 million purse that is on the cards here for the players, the 30 players gracing these links. whether or not they have the appropriate mitigation efforts,

we walked around and we've seen a lot of precautionary measures in place from additional misting stations to cooling centers to additional hydration stations, even sunscreen stations. but this was the most astounding piece of technology. i've never seen this before. it's worth noting, this is literally called a cool mix. it's for the athletes. it's positioned at every three holes. every third hole has this device. what it does, it has a cooling technology on the backside of your palm and it can cool your internal core temperature by a few degrees in a matter of minutes, bringing you down to a safer level if you're getting overheated. this piece of device is available to the athletes. they're doing their best to mitigate the impacts of the heat. i spoke -- the press spoke to a georgia native, his name is brian harman. he also happens to be the 2023 british open champion. we wondered maybe if he had a

local advantage growing up in this type of heat and humidity. find out what he had to say. >> you would think it would be a little bit of an advantage, but maybe in the heat being in it for so long has worn you down. it never seems to get easy to play in heat like this. the tour has done a nice job with amendments to the tee boxes, cold towels, more hydration. we watch more fans go down than players and caddies. you can get into a lot of trouble out there. >> all right. this event used to take place in november, but the athletes and spectators wishing it still did. it has not done that since the early 2000s. if you're extra nice, christmas is coming up, maybe i'll send you one of these in the mail. >> for the fans, i think their version is like a bag of ice that they shove their hand in or something. talk to us a little bit about hurricane season and what you

are tracking. i know that there's some potential threats to the u.s. >> you're following along as closely as i am. we see this potential development in the eastern gulf of mexico. we're concerned about it. all the interest there from the florida panhandle through the florida peninsula need to be on alert from tuesday to wednesday of next week. there's an 80% of development from the national hurricane center. maybe keep your guard up and look at those hurricane preparedness kits you have at home. >> yeah. derek, thank you very much. i'm still a little bit jealous of you. you are fine. sounds like a wonderful outing. it's a weird thing, but that's pretty cool. thanks, derrick. jim? >> what you don't realize is brianna actually has one of

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