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right now, two hearings in two different courtrooms under way for former president donald trump. one in d.c. and the other in georgia where his former chief of staff mark meadows just testified about his quote challenging times in the white house. we have details from both courtrooms. a shooter motivate by hate opening fire on black shoppers in jacksonville, florida. this morning we are learning more about the three victims. and at any moment, an update on the tropical storm idalia's track as it gains strength and takes aim at florida's gulf coast. this morning president biden is taking action even before the

storm makes landfall. i'm boris sanchez in for john berman and sara sidner and kate bolduan with rahel solomon. this is cnn "news central." right now, we are following two key hearings in atlanta and washington, d.c., and both of them expected to end with rulings from junls that could potentially shape how and when the former president is going to face trial. in d.c., the judge just rejecting trial dates that the doj and trump lawyers were pitching. the doj wanted 12 months and the trump's lawyers wanted two years. the judge wanted neither. now in georgia, the cameras

allowed through september 8th, for first time in four cases we could see donald trump live pleading not guilty. we begin in georgia where mark meadows is testifying on the stand, and we will have sara murray with the latest details. so, sara, what is the chief of staff saying? >> well, boris, it is remarkable that he is taking the stand at all. he has kept such a low profile. but now he is in the midst of the hearing to move his part of the case to federal court, and potentially trying to get them dismissed. he is talking about what it is like to serve as chief of staff in the trump white house, and of course, chaotic white house, and saying that it was challenging times and he said that nobody was fully prepared for that type of job, and talking about the daily morning call on the days after the attack on january 6th,

and on that call was mike pompeo and general milley and the possibility that system of the adversaries could see the u.s. weak in the wake of the events on january 6th, so it is playing out in this federal courtroom in georgia, and we are looking at not just any of the implication for what it means for mark med dose and the case and the efforts to move it to federal court, but what it could mean for the broader case of the case that fani willis is trying to make against donald trump and the co-defendants. you pointed out for arraignment, boris, but we are waiting to see how it pans out for mark meadows and donald trump and others and this is a courtroom that allows the people to do their arraignments over zoom or waive them if the judge allows it. we are waiting to see if donald trump and the allies will end up in a courtroom on september 6th or not. >> important to point out that mark meadows throughout all of

this is quiet, and yet today, he is taking stand, and giving significant testimony. and rahel, this is a lot in georgia. >> and boris, i want to go to washington, d.c., where a judge has just rejected the trial dates that special counsel jack smith and donald trump has proposed for the subversion case. and so when is this trial going be? i want to bring in zachary koep, and bring us inside of the courthouse, because the judge is making comments for both sides to lower the temperature. >> that is right, rahel, as it is getting heated inside of the courtroom as the lawyers are arguing over the timing of when this trial should start, and so far, we know when the trial is not going to be started. and the judge is making it clear to trump's lawyers that it is not two years when this trial is going to begin. they wanted april 2026 start

date, but the judge is making it very, very pointed comments in the courtroom saying that you are not going to be getting two more years in the case, and telling the defense lawyers that they should have been ready for the indictment when it came, and no excuse that they would need this time. the judge has also rejected the department of justice's date which is january 2nd of next year. so we are waiting to see when the judge is going to set that trial date, but making it clear in both sides that neither proposal is going to fly, so we the judge to set a date. >> conten sho tentious already, is only 10:00 a.m., and so, an hour in. >> we go to michael moore, a former u.s. attorney, and i wanted to read something from john laro moments ago in court to judge tanya chutkan with a

raised voice to say that you could suggest to go to trial in four months is not only absurd, but it is a violation of their oath to do justice. the judge chutkan in response said, let's take the temperature down here in a little bit. and so it sounds like there are tense moments in court, michael. >> yeah, i'm glad to be with both of you this morning. the judge is right, they need to tamp down the temperature when it comes to arguing motions. you can be a zealous advocate without taking shots at the co-counsel's credibility or integrity as the case may be in what sounds like here. no possible way for the case to be scheduled january 2nd, and it is a stunt, and everybody saw it that way, and likewise, the case was not going to be scheduled for 2026. so the judge now has to weigh both the schedule that is going on next year with the various cases as well that there is

going to be some consideration of the election, and he is presumed is innocent, and the former president is, and so he has a right to raise those things of what is going on, and the claim they would try to knock him off of the campaign trail, and the same time, she has the interest to move the case forward an she will find something, but remember that the trial dates move. so even if we see a date set for some time later next year, there's a likelihood that the tape is going to be moved by appeals and the appellant court could issue a stay, and a number of things to keep happening, but this is to keep the train on the tracks to move forward to some resolution. >> michael a at the core of the defense's argument to try to push this thing back is the mountain of evidence that they would have to go through, and something like 12.8 million of pages of discovery. the fact is though that the defense handed over much of the documents, a lot of the documents produced by donald

trump's team, and so does it stand reason that they need ample time to review the information they, themselves handed over? >> right. the constitution guarantees an accused and the defendant in this case, and the former president, it guarantees him the right to have an effective defense, effective representation under the 6th amendment. what that means is that he has the right to have lawyers prepared and who have the time to prepare. and so the fact that there is 12 million pages of documents roughly is something that is the court going to take into consideration. remember that the government has been investigated in this case for the better part of almost three years now as we have moved forward. i realize that jack smith has not as public ability, we have been been through the january 6th commission, an various grand juries and now a parallel case in georgia that is mimicking a lot of the federal trial, and the idea that somehow the

lawyers would need to speed read through 12 million documents, she is not going to put up with that either, and she wants to make sure that the lawyers have specific time so it is not an issue on appeal should he be cop vikt, -- convicted, and so she will want to zero in on that, too. >> and so mark med doadows says was a turbulent time, but what he did, he did it under the direction of president trump. could he prevail? >> i think that the motion is a good motion, and we will see with the judge, but he has to say that he has a plausible or colorful claim that he was going to job under the employee, and the treef of staff is the chief of staff at the end of the day, making telephone calls and

meetings are part of his duties. the state will say what is criminal conduct is to be proven at trial, and we are not at trial, but this is a motion where the defendant has to say, hey, i am doing my job, and you may claim that they are illegal, but i don't have to prove that. 154 of the 157 overt acts that the state is alleging in this act as part of the conspiracy occur while trump was the sitting president of the united states, so it has to have some weight as the court considers if the acts were done at the time that meadows was serving. and these are the tings that i let pass by. and it is due weight of judge jones is, and so he is certainly going to weigh the arguments seriously, i believe. >> that testimony fis ongoing,

and we appreciate your perspective, michael moore. thank you. >> thank you. and now, the storm idalia is strengthening in the gulf and expected to reach the coast of the united states wednesday into thursday. the storm surge could reach nine feet. this morning president biden approved state's disaster declaration. and derek van dam, break down the latest for us. >> yes, critically important information to pass along from the 11:00 a.m. standard briefing. we have hurricane warnings for much of the florida coast across big ben. t this is going from long boat key south of tampa bay. it is including tampa bay and reaches north through cedar key and just to the each of the apalachicola, and the big bend area is where the newly issued hurricane warnings, and tropical

storms from fort meyers to naples, and this is interesting to note that these are tropical storm watches. on the east side of the state, and this is going to include jacksonville to orlando, and this is a storm that is going to plow through the florida peninsula from wednesday into thursday. this is not just a florida storm, and it is going to impact southern georgia and the carolinas as well. the latest information has it at tropical storm strength, and so 65-mile-an-hour winds, and it is going to develop some shear, but it has a lot of warm water, and the environment is going to be more favorable for the storm to strengthen, and this is what the official track will be, and that is a major hurricane impacting the florida big bend region by wednesday morning, and then it is going to make its way from southern georgia into thursday. this is 7 to 11 feet above ground, and this is significant

and it is going to inundate several coast regions, and the inland flooding as well. looking at the winds, rahel, easily gusting over 100 miles per hour as we head into the work week. so much to cover here, and a lot of impact to come up. >> 48 hours for people to get the preparations in place. derek van dam, thank you. boris? >> still tom cop, the doj is investigating a crime as an act of extremism and what we know about the three black people who were killed in the shooting. and we will bring you significant new details of the attack.

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shock and grief this morning in jacksonville, florida, after police say three people were killed in a racist attack, and at tack that the doj is investigating as hate crime. surveillance video has been released where a shooter, a white man, stormed into a dollar general store, and killed two people inside and shot and killed a third in the park pg lot. all three of the victims were black. the 21-year-old shooter had drawn swastikas on the weapons and the jacksonville sheriff says he had left behind a racist rambling that reads like the diary of a mad man.

take a listen. >> there is no question about it, he hated blacks and he hated just about everyone who was not white. he made it very cleefar. i want people to understand that he is completely accountable, and he understood what he was doing, and based o d upon what read he knew what he was doing, and why he was doing it. >> and so, we go to isabel who has the latest with the investigation. >> boris, i have been speaking to those close to the investigation, but they are disturbed. however, there was a vigil yesterday, and hundreds of people unified by this dark moment to remember the victims here and to figure out the next steps and how the support the family members of the victims, and i want to get into some new

reporting from the incident where the sheriff t.k. waters says that the shooter for some reason was focused here on the dollar general. he had a tactical vest and a ar-15 with swastikas on it, and he came inside and shot two people and then went outside to shoot an employee of the dollar general. that racist rampage lasted for 11 minutes. listen to the state senator tracy davis and what she had to say. >> i'm angry. sad to realize that we are in 2023 and as a black person we are still hunted. because that is what that was. that was someone planning and

executed three people. >> reporter: and just blocks away is a historically black university where the shooter ended up there first before coming to the dollar general, and there is a planned press conference with the security guard who turned hem away. we are working to get more on that. boris. >> thank you. rahel. >> that attack is just the latest where a white gunman has targeted black people. there was an incident in a supermarket in buffalo, new york, and a mass shooting in 2017. we will bring in steve who can speak about the president talking to the sheriff offering

support, and what kind of support is the president offering to give? >> well, the president has been leading, and it is heartbreaking to hear the state senator's comments there, because we have lived through it all too often. that is why the president convened the united against hate with civil leaders and senator leaders, and working with the justice department to combat the hate crimes. we are gathering today with the groups and the anti-defamation league and ongoing work to undo. as i looked at jacksonville, i thought about my friend clemente pinckney who was murdered. so, it has happened time and time again, and we have seen the mayor talking to the sheriff, and we will lean in as this

investigation is yielding more and more details, and the support not only to jacksonville, but the national press continuing to raise afterson as violence and security in this country. >> we mentioned you are at the white house with the king family, and certainly not lost on you, sir, the shooting, and the killing can happened days before this incident and a discussion with martin luther king's son, and then we will discuss. >> there is something wrong when this continues to happen over and over again. if you remember in 1963, just before the march in washington, four little girls lost their lives in the baptist church because of the bombing.

every since there is a sense of the forward movement, there is always the inevitable stepback. the thing is that hate is prevalent in the country, and we have to change it. it i it is not next week or next month, but now. >> reporter: so some say that neo-naziism is a breeding ground and that needs to change, but what needs to change now? >> well, the constant work that the president and the vice president have been leading on fighting every ism, and including theis exism, and against the lgbtq community that is not able to advance in places like florida. and also, places that statues

are not i spent some time this weekend with martin king iii and reverend sharpton and several other supporters and leaders who worked with dr. king, ambassador andrew young and clarence jones and others and also terry sewell, and congressman sewell who represents birmingham with the baptist church where the bombing happened, and we all agree it is a constant labor, and it is good to have a president who is focused on the work, and has a open door, and speaks to the better nay ch chur of the work. and it is important to continue to focus on equity, and all of us coming together and surviving

together from the biden/harris administration. >> and so now, talking to some of the people in jacksonville, they said they felt like they were hunted. >> it is incredibly painful, and not only is the senators very great friends and a classmate, his daughters are both very meaningful in our lives, our family's lives, and so it hurt. we were in charleston sfarnlg and i was a mayor at the state capitol and the at the same time

the state capitol still flew the confederate flag. so we were in part of the state change that changed that race-based killing. it was the immediate cause of the flag and to ensure that america's hopes and dreams are available to everyone. we are certainly not perfect, and certainly not where we used to be, but it takes and thank god that the leadership is coming from the top with people like joe biden and kamala harris. i am sure that you want to wrap this where we started and i know that the president and dr. biden will continue to express family

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breaking news into cnn. a federal judge has set the trial date on former president donald trump on the charges that he tried to overturn the 2020 presidential election. march 4th, 2024. evan perez is outside of the federal courthouse in washington, d.c., and he sprinted out of the courtroom. evan, take us there, and how did this unfold? >> well, boris, this was quite a heated hearing from the part of the former president's lawyers who were pushing for a much later court trial date. they said that the former president is not going to be able to get a fire trial if he is forced to go to trial in the next few months in part, because they are buried by yons and

millions of pages and is lawyers don't have classified communication to go through the information. the judge pushed back strongly and said that the public has an interest or a right in the prompt and efficient resolution of this matter. she said that march 4th for the trial to get started. now, that is right before, i believe it is right between so, that brings up the political question for the prosecution, because it is going to be four or five weeks of trial according to the defendant where he may have to sit here at federal court while he is on trial in the case. at the judge, the judge tonya chutkin pushed back strongly when the former president's

lawyers he does not have to have the parties ready for trial, but this is not the case. one of the president's attorneys made a strong push for a later date. he said what the prosecution was trying to get was a show trial and not a speedy trial. you can see from the proceedings here today, this judge, judge chutkin, she was not patient with the idea of waiting for 2026. i should note that she had a conversation with a judge in new york where the former president is also facing a criminal trial related to the rush money there in new york. she said that she talked to the judge there, and felt it might backfire nonetheless, and now

there a lot of room between now and the seven months where the two sides will try to push it out further on, and a major decision by judge chutkan which is one day before super tuesday, the big date on the primary calendar. thank you for bringing that to us. rahel? >> a terrifying moment over the skies in florida that ends in a helicopter crash. plus, we learn who was on board. and trial date set before super duffy. also, what has to be done before we go ob cat doyle

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welcome back to major hearings this morning for former president trump, one in d.c. and one in fulton county, georgia. we are getting lots of details from the courtrooms. we are learning that in washington, d.c., the judge is setting a trial start date of march 20, 2024, and this is one of the most important dates before the primary calendar, super tuesday. we are joined by the leader of the democratic party basel and also a political strategist doug heye, and so i imagine that he will use that date by march 5th. >> well, i feel that before

march 5th, we will know who the nominee is, and this is going to come from the iowa caucuses, and i have run the coms in iowa. you lose in iowa and come in fourth or fifth place in iowa, it is worse and you drop out. but if donald trump wins iowa, it is clear he has the momentum going into new hampshire where he is also leading in the polls, and if donald trump wins iowa and new hampshire is not going to be beaten in the republican primary. >> and so, basel, he is obviously the person that the last quinnipiac poll shows that biden and trump are pretty much tied up. >> well, i am not scared of that, biden and trump, and looking at the reproductive

rights and those are mobilizing issue. he does not get the credit on the economy. but he has been great on the economy in terms of playing defense on those reproductive issues that are now in the states, and the democrats see it as a winning issue, and frankly, when you are looking at the ways in which independents and disaffected republicans came out for democrats in 2022, i believe it is a sis a winning coalition 2024. >> so he does not get credit with the polling. >> i think they are continuing to talk about it, and i don't believe he should talk about what is happening with donald trump, and maybe minimally, because he is the best surrogate for his own record on the economy, and continue to do that. for the democrats, what we are discussing is built-in. and for those undecided, keep

hammering in the issues, and some media buys in the swing states with voters of color will help. >> the white house has not gone directly after president trump for the legal woes and neither have the republicans. a lot of people on the republican debate stage raised their hand saying that they would support him even if he is convicted and does that change if he gets closer for the primaries? >> well, i would hope it would, but everything that we have seen so far suggests it wouldn't. it is not that he is criticizing or attacking donald trump in the way they would for any other candidate for any other race. the reality is that when he is indicted, it reenforces the key message that the system is rigged and two-tier of justice, and that, but the opponents also reinforce it. so if you back him up and you

are not weakening his position. the democrats are looking at the race and think, well, we will do pretty well against donald trump, but there is a real reality here of being careful of what you wish for. that is what the democrats thought in 20616, and thought no way that donald trump could beat hillary clinton, and he did. we saw the results. i tell the democrats be careful what you wish for on that. >> and he is right. it is a good chance ta donald trump could win. and so for democrats, you cannot be complacent at all, and hakeem jeffries, and interestingly enough, nancy pelosi is in a position to hel make the democrats' case down ballot, looking at the reproductive rights, they tried to get the solution, but it did not play out like they wanted.

so they can look at the most draconian policies down ballot and stick to the script, then we have the opportunity to get more i seats back particularly in new york and california and this is going to give president biden a boost. >> doug, as we learn more about the trial dates, and when speaking to boris, a conviction might change minds in the way that indictments and others may? >> well, if you are looking at the people on the stage who raised their hand, it is convicted in theory and not practice. so some people could peel away from it, and you could certainly bet that the voters independently sought for republicans who voted for donald trump in 2016, but went to joe biden in 2020 indirect

highlights. b basil is telling us what they need to be talking about. it is not the economy. it is rocky ground for joe biden, and this is not the terra firma that they want to be on. >> basil to put you on the spot, because you said that you were comfortable with the joe biden and donald trump race, and so who else would they not want to face? >> well, i would say that we saw the turnout in key areas with the key constituents was lower than we wanted it to be, and if those voter can't come out, and make the case, it doesn't matter who else is on the ballot against him. >> thank you, both. we have incredible new video out of florida to share with you. a helicopter crashing on to the roof of a building.

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. welcome back. developing at this hour, two people were taken to a hospital after a fire rescue helicopter crashed this morning. it happened in pompano beach, florida. the crash happened just after 8:45 this morning eastern time. take a look at this stunning video. you see the trail of smoke from the helicopter and then that sudden tail spin where it eventually crashes into the roof of the building. you'll see it happen here. want to bring in pete muntean, live at dulles international airport. pete, what more can you tell us?

>> well, we're just hearing this now from pom pano beach city saying four people were taken to the hospital, two crew members on board the helicopter, two civilians on the ground. this really tells an incredible story, that the civilians on the ground tried to help the crew members of the helicopter out of the wreckage, and incredibly, none of those four people were taken to the hospital with critical injuries. not much known beyond that about it their condition, but it's incredible when you see that video, so dramatic and disturbing, this broward county police department fire rescue helicopter, spinning out of control, you can see the side of the helicopter apparently on fire behind the engines in front of the tail rotor boom there. the fire is so intense that the tail rotor boom separates from

the rest of the helicopter, causing it to spiral counterclockwise out of controlp it is terribly hard to fly a helicopter without a tail rotor. you need it to go straight. that helicopter came down on an apartment building in pompano beach there. you can see the crater and there is some video surfacing online of folks actually first responders putting up ladders and the crew of the helicopter coming down on a ladder from the roof of that apartment building. the flight track also tells a pretty interesting story here. that helicopter it took off about 8:45 this morning from the pompano beach air park, left west. didn't get very far away, only about a mile, got up to a low altitude, 650 feet, and then tried to turn back. clearly they were trying to make it back with some sort of apparent problem. now investigators have their work cut out for them. >> just incredible video. pete, incredible description of what all happened. thank you. >> lucky to be okay.

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