stuck in the mud . some 70,000 people stranded at burning man. heavy rain stranding them in nevada's desert while roads are expected to be reopened today. we're following the latest. plus president biden sticking with a familiar playbook, talking up the state of the u.s. economy and shoring up union support. but is it working? new polling showing the economy could be the biggest threat to his re-election. and a leadership shake-up. ukrainian president zelenskyy dismisses his defense minister and says it's time for new approaches in the war with russia. what that could mean for the counteroffensive. we're following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here to "cnn news central". ♪ soon a mass exodus out of the mud. organizers of the burning man

festival in nevada say they hope that in just a couple of hours tens of thousands of people who've been stranded in the desert can begin to drive out. for days now festivalgoers have been trapped in treacherous ankle-deep mud advised to shelter in place and to conserve food, water and fuel. the area was slammed with two to three months' worth of rain in just the span of 24 hours. officials say about 72,000 people are still stranded. some of them choosing to risk it, hike for miles in the mud to leave. one of them being the popular musician diplo. he actually posted this video after he trekked through the mud, hitching on the back of a pickup truck alongside comedian chris rock. we should anticipate hearing some jokes about that pretty soon. cnn national correspondent nick watt is covering all of this for us. so nick, what are officials saying are the next steps in trying to get folks out of there? >> reporter: well, boris, the latest we have heard is they say in a couple of hours from now,

that's noon local, 3:00 eastern, they will open the roads. right now they say, quote, that road, it's not really a road, it's mud, is still too wet and muddy for most vehicles. but we have seen some people trying to get out this morning and succeeding in those vehicles. the issue is the more vehicles that are on that mud before it's really dry could cause problems later in the day. the sun is the savior here. listen, the rain, that makes that clay very quickly unpassable but the sun also dries it pretty fast too. i mentioned some people have already made it out. cnn spoke to one of them. take a listen. >> we planned on leaving right after the burn, which is saturday night. and then it started raining on us. like that night. and we were like oh, it's fine, it's okay. everybody was still partying, having fun. everybody took their shoes off, started dancing in the mud. it was great. and then the reality sunk in that we couldn't leave. like we were stuck, basically.

>> reporter: yeah. and i mean, the only kind of fairly unpleasant exit was, as you mentioned, boris, to walk. chris rock apparently wearing his new york knicks jacket walked out with diplo. cindy crawford and a few others, they walked for three hours in the mud. and then some kid passing in a pickup truck recognized diplo and gave them a ride, and they eventually made it to reno. but quite a lot of people decided to stay. you know, there is a real kind of ethos of self-reliance around this festival. and some people said listen, i could have walked out but then i leave my rv and all my stuff. what do i do? and nothing really bad happened. one person did die, but we're told that was not connected to the weather. and they say people mucked in, people helped and tonight they will finally burn the man and pray for no more rain. boris? >> yeah, a lot of folks not wanting to leave until that effigy that the festival is named after was burned. nick watt, thank you so much for that. let's go to cnn's chad myers,

who's at the weather center for us. chad, how did this get so bad so quickly? >> training rain. one storm moved over the area and then another one right behind it moved right over the festival again. this is in a rain shadow. this is in a place that doesn't rain much ever. this white area right through there. there's lake tahoe. there's reno. we'll zoom in for you. you can actually see if you want to go to google earth you can actually see the city itself, kind of a ring here. a little bit faint but you can really see what's going on right here in the burning man, there in the middle. and there are no roads. no paved roads here whatsoever. this is just that silt. the clay that got wet. it's like walking into a lake and expecting not to sink down a little bit when you walk in off the shore. all of that was just completely saturated. there was no place for that rain to go. and so the people just got stranded there. that clay gets very, very slippery. here's the rainfall.

just one area after another. that's the area right there. watch that little white spot right there. that's where the training rain just came over and over and over for hours and hours and hours. there's just no way to predict this. this is kind of monsoonal moisture. it comes down in the desert southwest every single winter season, spring season. you get the moisture coming up. especially in the summer. the humidity is involved. and it just pops a thunderstorm or it pops the rain. and even talk about phoenix. you can get two inches of rain in scottsdale and it doesn't rain at all in awatuki which is just a few miles away. that's kind of what we had here. just rained in the wrong places. no more rainfall. that's the good news. this now just has to have the sun to dry it up. people ironing out some of these roads or at least trying to get through some of these roads here. likely a maintainer, one of those big scrapers would have helped a little bit, try to get some of that mud away. but here you go. this is what it looks like. that's what turns silt and clay into rain and mud.

so how it happened is because this rain has no real place to go. it's not going to soak into the ground like if you had loam, which is peat moss, or the dirt, the regular dirt below it. this is a dry lake-bed that's been dry for a very long time. silt has blown in. clay is everywhere there. and when it rains on top of the clay it just sits there and becomes a soup. it doesn't soak into the ground. that's what they're driving on right now. they're drive out on mud soup. let's hope everybody gets out of there today. probably there's an awful lot of trailers that are going to go very, very slowly to get out of there. we'll see if we can get everybody out today. boris. >> yeah, a most unpleasant soup. chad myers in the cnn weather center. thank you so much. omar? >> yeah, i'm going to pass on that soup for lunch this time around. but look, this is a serious situation for a lot of people. i want to talk more with someone who's been experiencing all this at burning man. angela peacock joins me now. angela, good to see you.

i know you were worried about signal. so i'm glad to see you're actually beamed in here. but for starters tell me what is the situation right now? it definitely looks dryer than what it was i can imagine over the past few days. >> camp just had a meeting and they said there's a really, really long line trying to get out. some people are leaving. i think mostly the four-wheel drives, the super vehicles, not the passenger cars yet. there are a if you have those stuck. so right now our camp is focusing on breaking everything down, packing up, just sort of waiting it out. and probably as you heard, the burning man will burn at like 9:00 p.m. so everybody's kind of just taking their time until then tonight. >> yeah. and look, it seems that it's become a situation over the past few days where you know, you've really had to work with some of the other people there, that some of the set rules that maybe were in place when you got there all of a sudden you had to improvise a little bit. have you seen people help each other out, share food and water? what has the dynamic been like over the last few days?

>> i mean, honestly, it's brought us closer together. you know, there's principles to burning man. one of them is radical self-reliance, meaning you bring enough to take care of yourself and help others if needed. and you gift things. like there's no payments. if you need food or you need water or you need something, there's someone here that will give it to you. there's even a saying we say the playa provides. like things will be provided. you'll be fine. honestly, it's brought us closer together as a community. lots of teamwork. lots of getting to know people on a deeper level because there's not much else to do. so it's been fine. totally fine. >> yeah. and radical self-reliance. i'm sure people didn't anticipate going as hard into that motto as they have over the past few days. but it does sound like the dynamic has been helping people out. we know and you mentioned a little bit that some people have been trying to get out, decided to walk out or potentially get rides out on some of those four-wheelers that you mentioned. i mean, how difficult is that right now? >> well, i mean, most of us are smart and we're not even going

to try because if you even try to ride your bike or you walk there's lots of dry pockets but then there's puddles still and there's still a lot of very wet stuff. so as you ride why you are bike or as you walk or as you drive you're going to accumulate mud on those tires and those feet. it makes everything harder and you don't want to get stuck in this and then prevent other people from leaving. so everybody's being really cool about it. we're just biding our time. we're finding stuff to do. it's a pain for some people with flights and travel schedules and work schedules, but you know, we're doing the best we can and everybody's in really good spirits. >> yeah. angela peacock, well, i hope you get out of there soon. but it sounds like you all are handling it as well as you can, especially for how quickly the conditions there changed. angela peacock, thank you so much. boris? so president biden is spending part of his labor day in the battleground state of pennsylvania. he celebrated union workers, defended his economic record, and slammed his predecessor. but even with near record low

unemployment, a strong stock market and lower inflation the president is having a tough time selling bidenomics. a new "wall street journal" poll out today shows that just 37% of respondents approve of biden's handling of the economy. nearly 6 in 10, nearly 60% disapprove. let's take you to philadelphia now with cnn's arlette saenz. so arlette, president biden has to be feeling some pressure to get that perception shifted, especially because he's facing a re-election. >> reporter: yeah, boris and president biden came here to the battleground state of pennsylvania to try to make his economic pitch to voters. the president spoke at a rally for union workers as they got ready to go on their labor day parade here in philadelphia. and the president really tried to promote some of the progress that has been made based on the policies from his administration, pointing to job creation. also a moderation in inflation, though he did note that there is still more work that needs to be

done as americans are still suffering from high inflation. but he also used this speech as an opportunity to take a swipe at his predecessor, former president donald trump. he never named him by name, but he was trying to make an economic contrast with him. take a listen. >> when the last guy was here, you were shipping jobs to china. now we're bringing jobs home from china. [ cheers and applause ] when the last guy was here, your pensions were at risk. we helped save millions of pensions with your help. [ cheers and applause ] when the last guy was here, he looked at the world from park avenue. i look at it from scranton, pennsylvania. i look at it from delaware. >> reporter: now, this all comes as while there are some bright spots in the economy the president still is struggling in some polls when it comes to americans' perceptions of how

they're doing economically. as you mentioned, his approval rating when it comes to the issue specifically of handling the economy sits at around only 37%. it's a bit lower when you take a look at his handling of inflation. all of this the white house has really over the course of the past few months, really tried to chip away at, trying to show that the policies that he has enacted, things like the inflation reduction accuracy things like the bipartisan infrastructure bill, that those are ultimately paying off for voters. of course the question will be whether in november 2024 if americans are feeling that the economy is in a good state. of course the president traveled here to pennsylvania, a battleground state that he won, it helped him win against donald trump back in 2020, and it's a state that he will need once again if he's going to gain re-election in the upcoming election. boris. >> arlette saenz from philadelphia. thanks so much. omar? well, coming up, donald trump may be facing four criminal cases, but could the 14th amendment keep him from holding public office again? what one senator and some legal

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the united states. it says against the constitution. in my view the attack on the capitol that day was designed for a particular purpose, at a particular moment, and that was to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power as is laid out in the constitution. so i think there's a powerful argument to be made. my sense is it's probably going to get resolved in the courts. >> a lot to talk about here. let's discuss with former federal prosecutor renato mariotti. renato, good to see you, one. happy labor day. but i want to start with is this 14th amendment case against donald trump as cut and dried as senator kaine makes it seem? >> well, it's not because it's never a provision that has ever been exercised in a context like this before. and so ultimately i do agree with him this much, that the courts are going to get involved, and without really any precedent in the courts can look

at in the past. i think it gives a lot of freedom for the united states supreme court to go really one of two ways. i think either to say that this is what's called a non-justicial political question, in other words states can make a decision themselves as to whether or not a person qualifies in their states, or to say -- to narrowly construe it. those two possibilities given the makeup of the court, i think it's unlikely that the court is going to take an aggressive position that would knock donald trump off the ballot. >> now, for everyone who doesn't have a pocketbook constitution on hand, the 14th amendment includes a post-civil war disqualification clause that bars anyone from holding public office if they have, quote, engaged in insurrection or rebellion or, quote, given aid or comfort to those who do so. the constitution does not, as you mentioned, spell out how to enforce that ban. so before this next question i want to revisit the message

trump gave to capitol rioters on january 6th. this followed hours of inaction from trump during the violence that day. >> i know your pain. i know your hurt. we had an election that was stolen from us. so go home. we love you. you're very special. >> now, look, the eye test is one thing. but you've fought in the courts before. does that qualify to you as giving aid or comfort? >> i don't think that's where a court would go. in other words, i think the stronger argument is that he actually participated or had a role in planning or instigating the armed attack on the capitol. obviously, there is going to be arguments on both sides there. i do think that there is a strong argument that that was an insurrection for purposes of the 14th amendment. but because it hasn't been defined, of course that leaves a lot up to courts.

to make that determination. and obviously in the first instance to local officials. >> and look, we know obviously senator tim kaine brought it up, about you some legal scholars have spoken on this. some battleground states are look into it on an individual basis. if a state did rule to keep trump off the ballot couldn't he appeal that? we talked briefly about the court process. but what would that scenario potentially look like? >> he would ultimately challenge that determination. it would go up to the united states supreme court. and obviously there's a 6-3 conservative majority right now on the united states supreme court. and that's why i really think the likely outcome here is either that the court narrowly construes that provision and essentially says that it doesn't apply to the situation or says that it's what's called a political question, in other words, courts aren't going to get involved in this, which then would i think create a lot of

issues because obviously different states would have different ways of interpreting that provision. ultimately trump would potentially be kicked off the ballot on a number of states. it would create a lot of conflict, let's put it that way. >> now, quickly on the georgia elections and racketeering case. trump has already pleaded not guilty there, but we're also looking for arraignments of some of the other co-defendants in this particular case. what is the next big step you're watching for here? >> i'm really interested in how the federal judge decides mark meadows', you know, motion essentially to move his case to federal court. that's going to be very interesting. it's also going to be interesting to see what the judge does with all of the various requests to both speed up and in the case of some defendants the trial date, in others to keep it slow, in the case of donald trump to keep it slow, and then to sever these cases from each other. in other words, how many trials and when they're going to be is

going to be very important tactically and for how this plays out for each of the defendants. it will make a big difference who the other defendants are and when their trial is. >> and when this indictment first came out, everyone had questions, how is this actually going to work, especially heading into a campaign season. we're starting to see the little bits and pieces. again, motions to sever, motions to move to federal court. renato mariotti, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> boris? still ahead, a defense shake-up in ukraine as president zelenskyy promises a new approach. what this could signal for the counteroffensive and the future of the war. and happening right now, investigators in pennsylvania giving an update on the active manhunt for an escaped killer. stay with "cnn news central." we've got the very latest just moments away.

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as his country enters the 19th month of this war. let's take you now live to ukraine with cnn's melissa bell. so melissa, why this shift in the top levels of russia's -- or rather of ukraine's defense ministry? >> reporter: well, what we understand, boris, is that this change came at the request of the outgoing defense minister, oleksiy resnickoff, but it is also of course an opportunity for president zelenskyy to draw a line under the last 19 months of this war, and specifically some of the corruption and procurement scandals that have dogged the ministry in ukraine. it's important to note, bore ips, that oleksiy reznikov himself has never been tainted by any of those and many of the corruption scandals and procurement allegations i mentioned go back to the very early days of the war. they concern ukrainian tax taxpayers' money and ukrainian weapons contracts. still, the point for president zelenskyy is to take this opportunity to draw a line and

have a fresh start, reassuring nato allies that the historic allegations of corruption in this country are being dealt with. it's not just about continuing to get the weapons they need to finance or fund, to fuel their counteroffensive. it is also of course about their longer-term aims of wanting to join nato, of wanting to join the european union. so in comes a new defense minister, and he has the hardest of jobs. this is a really important moment here in ukraine. it isn't just going to be for aramov to come into ukraine and get the arms ready to be able to carry on taking this war to russia, and that's been the name of ukraine for the last few weeks much more clearly than it had before. it's also of course about continuing to fight this counteroffensive. what ukrainians feel is they finally reached a turning point and what they need to be able to do over the next few weeks is to be to convince western allies they need to keep bringing the weaponry in to carry on making the advances that they think they can continue making as they

seek to cut off that bridgehead between those parts of russian-controlled ukraine and crimea. they feel they've got the momentum behind them, this is the time to strike. so he has a big job ahead of him but he's considered an extremely safe pair of hands here in ukraine and a man who will be up to the job, boris. >> melissa bell reporting live for us in zaporizhzhia. let's dig deeper now with retired air force colonel cedric leighton. he's also a cnn military analyst. colonel thanks for being here on a holiday. h let's start with the new minister of defense for ukraine. who is he? >> he is a crimean tatar. he is a muslim. he has been involved in a lot of the arrangements that the ukrainians have made with arab nations as well as with turkey. he was involved in prisoner of war exchanges brokered by saudi arabia and qatar. and also he's negotiated the black sea grain deal. so he is part of all of those diplomatic efforts. highly skilled diplomatically from a liberal political party that's pro-european.

so this guy is going to be somebody who would be in favor of eu and nato integration for ukraine. >> really fascinating he took part in the black sea grain deal negotiation literally as vladimir putin is in negotiations with president erdogan of turkey over some kind of grain deal, something russia is explicitly focused on including over the recent days attacks on grain silos. >> that's exactly right, boris. what we have is the areas where they've in fact done this kind of thing right here at port reni which is a ukrainian port that is right on the romanian border, all of this on the danube river right here. this is one of the alternatives that the ukrainians have to get their grain out of this area right here, across the black he sea down this way toward istanbul. and that is very important from a strategic standpoint for the ukrainians. it's also extremely important for the viability of food supplies all around the world. this gentleman is in a unique

capacity where he can work with the foreign ministry to make this happen. >> he's also coming in at a unique moment in the counteroffensive where we know ukraine is trying to expedite its weaponry including with the use of f-16s. >> right. that is certainly true. so when you look at the entire map right here this is kind of getting the lay of the land. and when you've got the f-16, just to remind people what this jet can do. it's highly capable. it is a fourth generation fighter. it can target air defense systems, which is a key element right here. it can also do ground attack. uses a 20-millimeter gun. it has rounds of missiles and bombs. and it's of course focused on air to air combat as well. so it's a multirole fighter and that is something that is significantly important for the ukrainian capability. they say they're going to have this ready by the spring. we'll see if that actually happens because it requires so much training in order to make it work over areas such as this in the south and southeast because if the ukrainians want to do the kind of offensive that they're talking about they're basically going down through these areas right here down

toward tokmak and then the idea is to cut everything off here, to cut that land bridge from the west and east so that the russians then are divided between crimea and what they've occupied up in this area. >> obviously, spring is a bit away. we have winter before spring and there's kind of a pause in the action during winter. what would it take for you to say that ukraine has succeeded in its counteroffensive operations before the start of winter? >> so i think the key thing is for ukraine to maintain its independence and not lose territory. and so far they have succeeded in doing that. there are no russian gains here since the russians occupied this area in february and march of 2022. there are, however, even though they're small, ukrainian gains right here, focused on the yellow areas on the map right here. so that is in essence a success but it is a static success. for an offensive to succeed you really want to be able to capture territories like all of this. but that's going to be really hard to do given the russian defensive positions as they exist right now.

>> a lot to get through. we appreciate you doing it with us. colonel cedric leighton. always a pleasure. >> you bet, boris. thank you. >> of course. omar? >> ahead, the hunt for a murderer. officials just gave an update on the search for this escaped convict in pennsylvania including several credible sightings. we've got the latest. plus a new covid variant looks a lot different than the others. some new details make this one still serious but not as scary. ♪ shelves. shelves smart enough to see, sense, react, restock. so caramel s swirl is always there for the taking.

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as covid cases rise across the u.s. scientists are racing to understand a new highly

mutated variant. now early lab tests say the variant ba-286 may be less dangerous than initially feared. meg, what are you learning from these preliminary findings? >> well, omar, as you said, this is a very highly mutated variant, and that is why it's capturing so much attention from the science community. right now it has only shown up in about 11 countries and only about three dozen sequences or cases have actually been identified. but the fact that it's so highly mutated and to try to put to into some context, this vairpt variant is as different from previous variants as omicron was when it emerged in late 2021 from previous variants. and remember that omicron came along and we started seeing a million cases per day in the united states. so because it was so highly mutated it was really good at escaping our existing immunity. and that has been the fear around ba.2.86. we are seeing two new studies from china and from sweden. they're small but they are looking at how much this can

evade immunity and how well it can infect cells. they're finding it does evade some of our existing protections but perhaps not as badly as some scientists had feared. and on the infectivity question perhaps better than we thought. maybe this won't be so infectious. of course we need more studies to back all of this up. but one assessment from a harvard epidemiologist dr. bill anage he said, "my friends this is not the second coming of omicron. if it were it is safe to say we would know by now." a little bit of perhaps reassuring news about this potentially scary new variant. >> that's where everybody's mind goes to. 2020, 2021 are not that far behind us and that of course was the peak of when we started seeing all these variants and the lockdowns and that sort of thing. you so contextualize a little bit for me. what variant is currently dominant in the u.s. and do we know how well the upcoming vaccines are going to work against it? >> yeah, right now the predominant variant is called eg.5. and that one's not so different

from where we're updating the vaccines. and these new covid boosters are expected to be available in the next few weeks. going through the fda and the cdc. they are expected to work well against that dominant variant. and with these even, these new lab tests against ba.2.86, if that did somehow take off we are hearing from folks that perhaps it would not be quite as bad because of what we're learning. omar. >> meg tirrell, thank you so much. boris. now to some of the other headlines we're watching for at this hour. officials in louisiana are offering a reward for information about the arsonist behind a fire that burned at least 31,000 acres. the tiger island wildfire is just 55% contained and it's triggered several mandatory evacuations. last month a record 441 wildfires erupted in louisiana as it continues to struggle with drought. meantime, in texas a new law means years of payback beyond prison for drunk drivers. listen to this. it's mandating that people convicted of intoxication

manslaughter pay child support if they kill a child's parent or guardian. the offender will have to make payments until the kid is 18 or graduates from high school, whichever comes later. and controlling access to a classic. as of today the culture ministry of greece is limiting the number of visitors at the acropolis to 20,000 a day. officials say it's to reduce overcrowding and for the safety and longevity of the monument. they say about 23,000 people have been coming every day to see the acropolis, which was built in the 5th century b.c. and is home to major historical ruins including the parthenon. omar? well, boris, we've got new developments in the manhunt for the convicted killer who escaped from a pennsylvania prison five days ago. a possible break in the search comes after residential surveillance cameras on saturday picked up this image. you can see it behind me there. of a person who authorities believe is the escaped convict coming out of those bushes there. and this image was captured just over a mile from the prison where danelo cavalcante was

being held before he broke out of jail. cnn's polo sandoval is following this latest development and so much more. polo, what's the latest in their search for this convicted killer? >> reporter: so omar, we are well into day 5 of this massive search for this particular escapie, and he continues on the run. that's according to authorities as they offer the latest update only moments ago saying they are really focusing now on an area about two miles, more or less -- it's not very far from the prison. and they believe that he has not left that particular region, that he is likely contained. for several reasons. they have at least four confirmed sightings. the most recent according to pennsylvania state police, who's now leading this massive effort, was just yesterday afternoon when one of their troopers reportedly spotted him. however, he managed to get away. and then of course we mentioned that ring camera video, omar. that is also a major lead as he was captured on surveillance video about 1:30 in the morning

on saturday. there's also a new approach here from law enforcement, a fascinating one. they believe that if pennsylvania police can't convince him to give himself up peacefully then perhaps his mother can. >> you may be hearing a message that's being broadcast from a helicopter or from cars in the vicinity of that perimeter that i talked about. one of the things that we have done is we have had the individual's mother make a recording asking him to surrender peacefully. it's done in spanish, or actually portuguese. and it's being broadcast in an effort to facilitate his peaceful surrender. >> reporter: so again, there is a very specific part of chester county, which is about 30 miles west of philadelphia, that authorities are really focusing on. you're talking about hundreds of local, state, federal police on the ground and in the air.

for now they're asking authorities to familiarize themselves with the photo of this escapee obviously and then also to check on their neighbors and make sure they're doing okay. but then also as we close down this extended labor day weekend one of the big concerns for authorities, omar, is that possibly he may have been able to break into the house of somebody who's been away the last several days. so if anybody believes that their neighbor's house may be empty and authorities are asking that they actually call them so they can check in on them, but most importantly not to approach him as he was just getting started with a life sentence after being convicted for murder. as we heard it from authorities earlier today, they believe he is extremely desperate and he has very little to lose. but authorities are confident that they will soon be bringing this to a close. >> yeah, polo, a lot of factors to keep an eye on with this. several credible sightings. it seems they're in the right area but of course there's a lot more to go here to bring this to a close. boris? >> after being stuck in the mud for days we now know when thousands of stranded burners,

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