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that prompted a lot of questions within the capitol as well. how long will mcconnell stay in he mediade clear he plans to st in his current seat until it expires at the end of 2026 and stay as republican leader until the end of 2024. but what will he do in 2025? that's still an open question. >> thank you very much. and to our viewers, thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, denied. a major defeat for two trump co-defendants in georgia. this as a former trump employee officially flips and is now working with the feds. and a convicted killer who stabbed a woman 38 times in front of her young children caught on video escaping from
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prison, scaling walls, dodging razor wire, making it to the roof and for now, to freedom. plus oil prices at a near year high. mortgage levels higher than in de decades. is inflation roaring back? good evening. "outfront" tonight, denied. a judge ruling against two of donald trump's co-defendants in the georgia election interference case and in an historic, televised hearing. it was live on television. something trump said today he didn't mind. >> it's all right. okay. i don't mind that. if it happens, but we're going for motions to dismiss. >> well, today, the judge of course didn't dismiss anything other than motions from two of trump's co-defendants and the judge denying kenneth chesebro and sidney powell to try their cases separate from each other.
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the judge aquestioned the d.a.' plan to start the trial on october 23rd. >> seems a bit unrealistic that we can handle all 19 in 30 manager days. >> now, part of the reason it may seem unrealistic is that prosecutors said today they plan to call 150 witnesses and that's a lot of people. in an interview today, trump claims he also wants to take the stand. >> if you have to go to trial, will you testify in your own defense? >> oh, yes. absolutely. >> you'll take the stand. >> that, i look forward to. >> all right. you know, he always says this sort of stuff, remember hoping there was tapes of comey. he also claimed back in 2018 he was 100% going to testify in the mueller investigation. every time he was given the opportunity, he couldn't wait to testify. when the time came though, he didn't do it. now, whether he takes the stand, others will. tonight, we know one person is
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officially flipping on trump. mar-a-lago it worker tavares has a formal deal with prosecutors. he initially lied to prosecutors. now he's prepeared to speak the truth and the truth matters because as you know, that indictment charges trump with trying to delete security camera footage at the mar-a-lago club to prevent the footage from being provide today a federal grand jury. now, tavares got an attorney and he has changed his testimony. a lot to get to tonight including on a major ruling on mark meadows in the fulton county case that could come at any time and have huge implications for trump. i want to go to nick valencia. nick, you were there in the room. what did you see and hear inside the courtroom? >> well, it was fascinating. the gallery was packed and i was
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surrounded by attorneys for many of these co-defendants. the judge who's presiding over this trial is scott mcafee and today, we got our first glimpse of him at work. the fact this was televised live to the world, much different than the previous proceedings for trump. the federal hearings as well as his new york charges, none were live. today started with chesebro, the former trump attorney, arguing there's three conspiracies and their client, chesebro, is only connected to the fake elector scheme. they say sidney powell is connected to a different scheme of trying to illegally access voting data in rural coffee county and that has nothing to do with their client, ken chesebro. they said not only does chesebro not know powell personally, he's never stepped foot in coffee county, but the state pushed back saying after all, this is a reco indictment and evidence
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against one is evidence against all. all of these counts they argued were to further the overarching conspiracy, which was to try to keep the former president in power. ultimately, the judge denied the chesebro motion so now both powell and chesebro go hurdling into this date which is just 47 days away and the judge has already expressed skepticism of charging these 19. it's going to be addressed at a hearing next thursday where mcafee will decide whether or not all 19 will be tried together or it will just be these two. we also got a glimpse into how long it could take. the lead prosecutor on this case saying it's going to take at least four months, up to 150 witnesses and that does not include jury selection. so we're looking at a very, very long road ahead here in georgia. >> thank you very much. outside that courthouse, he was there in the hearing. ryan goodman with me now.
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and chris timmons, the former georgia prosecutor. so, chris, let me start from you with you on that. based on everything you've heard from the judge today, so we got you know, we got to see it, what do you think he wants to see happen here? >> i think first and foremost, he'd love to see the two speedy trial demands withdrawn but i don't think that's going to happen. alternatively, i think he wants a little understanding of what's going to happen to the removal in federal court. i think that was his biggest concern that they might start a trial for everyone including the potential defendants that might have their case removed then end up having to remove the case to federal court. if that were to happen, it causes some double jeopardy concerns. i think that's his biggest issue is he doesn't want to start there. the other issue is when you're dealing with 19 people, even trying to find a courtroom big
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enough to hold a trial like that is going to be tricky. the other side of that is how then would you like to do this trial twice. each time probably going anywhere from nine months to a year. >> and obviously the meadows you're referring to goes to federal court, ryan, we are waiting to find out at any moment. that is, we believe imminent, but it has been for a day. to this point though, 150 witnesses and they say four months to try. doesn't even include jury selection. that seemed to be to be whoa, that's a lot. ty cobb said he had done a case in georgia, which i don't remember, 28 or 26 in a reco case at one time and it was fine. so he didn't buy this argument. what do you make of what the judge is saying? >> i think the judge is right to say we've got a complicated case which is some of these people want to go fast and under georgia law, they have the right to a speedy trial so it has to happen by november.
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so october 23rd. once you have that piece in place to try to bring all the others in, that's what makes it very difficult. it makes it highly likely that this will be severed at some sense. >> but not separating it more than that. we wouldn't think there would be a need for that. >> not necessarily but maybe. because there are court cases in which the courts have found in certain situations when you have too many defendants, it can be prejudicial to one or the other. so i think the judge will have to be worried about that as well, whether his ruling could be overturned on that basis, but in this setting, it seems it will be two trials. then there's the other thing, the meadows removal case. this unknown variable. >> right. the black swan event. okay, chris, earlier, i played trump saying he's okay with the trial being televised and he went on to say this. >> i have so many lawyers that want to work for me. they love this case. and it makes sense.
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forget about money. they get paid, but you become famous on this stuff and it's not even tough. >> chris, i'll put aside the joke in legal circles that maga is making attorneys get attorneys because he has a point. that some of these individuals get on tv and they become famous in a way, i guess. he says he wants to take the stand here as well. do you think that' even makes sense? that any of these attorneys would support such a thing? >> they're not going to do it for free, erin. that's taking an entire year off of your practice to work on just one case. and so i don't know of any attorneys that are willing to do that. it's a pretty high price for the advertising that you're going to get. certainly you're going to become famous but the chance could be that you're going to be become infamous. when you take that case, half of america hates you and if your client turns on you, which this
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kient has from time to time, then the other half of america hates you as well. i think it's a big risk. stepping away from your practice for a year for one case is just not a gamble that most attorneys are willing to take. attorneys are risk averse and that is a big risk. >> eastman, chesebro, ellis, powell. not equating people's -- these lawyers put people in jail. so there's a price that you can pay for this. so ryan, what about this i.t. worker? we know there's a deal. he's agreed to flip. had an attorney. trump paid for attorney when he had denied anything going wrong. when he got rid of the attorney and got a new one, he said i'm fo going to speak the truth and the truth is this happened. there was pressure from the president and others to delete this footage. how significant could he be? >> i think it could be significant to the mar-a-lago case because he has direct evidence of the cover up. so the idea they were going to
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try to delete video recordings of moving the boxes, that's huge for the prosecution. speaks to the criminal guilt. >> at the least, it's obstruction. >> it shows it's far from the truth that trump is trying to cooperate. it could also be a watershed for other individuals. the ones you just named. i think reality is like staring him in the face now because this is becoming much more concrete that they might be spending time in jail if they don't flip and cooperate and ken chesebro today just received a very damaging ruling that he is going to be in the dock with sidney powell. i think that's another person i would be watching to see what happens. >> and chris, do you think that also could happen by them being permanently wedded together. powell and chesebro in georgia, that that could cause a very significant flip? >> maybe. i don't know. the thing is there are attorneys and attorneys don't want to, my identity is attorney.
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and so what you're asking somebody when they flip and they're an attorney to plead guilty to a felony, you're asking them to stop being an attorney. that's a difficult thing for anyone to do. when they're in that type of situation, they tend to double down. i think we're going to trial on this two on october 23rd at the least. >> it will be interesting. go for that or broke or going to prison. brian, i want to ask you about one other story tonight, which is a godevelopment from the justice department saying the special counsel intended to go for an indictment in the hunter biden investigation by the end of the month. this isn't related to bribery or corruption or ukraine or the vice president. this is relate today that gun purchase which he did not do correctly. does this mean anything for those other accusations which are obviously completely unproven at this point but much more significant? >> i do think they'll probably follow through as well with some of the tax crimes that were part of the plea agreement. now that it's broken down, this
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is very expected that they would bring an indictment for the gun charge and tax charge. nothing greater than that is foreseeable. that said, part of the reason the negotiations broke down is there are other ongoing negotiations and everybody's wondering about that. is there something bigger maybe with representation as a foreign agent. that is one potential. but we don't know. there's no evidence it's tied any of it to the president. so this really is discreetly about hunter biden kind of facing justice and the crimes that he has himself otherwise was going to admit to in the plea bargain. >> thank you very much. ryan and chris. next, keeping trump off of the ballot. there's an obscure legal argument using the 14th amendment that is gaining a lot of steam tonight. lawrence tribe will be "outfront." plus, dramatic new video showing the moments a convicted killer broke out of prison, scaling a brick wall, climbing on to the roof. and a powerful storm
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co constitution of the united states or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. it's a legal hail mary but the idea is gaining steam in new hampshire, michigan and arizona. lawrence tribe is "outfront" now. the constitutional law professor at harvard. professor, this has been gaining steam. more and more conversation, more discussion about it. it's something you've talked about. the argument hasn't been tested since the civil war so why do you think it can be used now to disqualify trump? >> well, the constitution says very clearly that anyone who takes an oath to the constitution and holds an office and then tries to overturn the constitution by for example preventing the peaceful transfer of power, can never again hold office.
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that's clear. it's part of the constitution. it's never been removed. in a way the trump era has been a tuition-free education in constitutional law. because there are so many things that have never happened before and we have to confront them. we have never before had a president who took an oath to uphold the constitution and then when he lost the election, schemed and plotted to hold on to power. that is the very definition of an insurrection. i'm not here to predict what will happen but of all the lawsuits that have been brought, by far the strongest was the one filed today by six registered voters of colorado. they did their research. they have standing under colorado state law to demand that the secretary of state apply all of the constitutional eligibility and ineligibility requirements in a primary
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election. what she will do is unclear. but whatever she does, this case is on its way quickly to the u.s. supreme court. which is going to have to decide one way or another whether the constitution is going to be followed. those people who say well, don't be unrealistic. no supreme court, especially a conservative one, three of whose members were appointed by donald trump, doing to enforce this provision. we'll just have to see. they may not. but if they don't, they'll have explain why not. >> it's interesting you raised that point. a conservative supreme court. this would be a very black and white reading of the constitution, right? and to that point, conservative legal scholar george washington university law school professor, jonathan turley has weighed in. and he said something i wanted to give you a chance to respond to about why he thinks using the 14th amendment against trump does not make sense. here he is. >> i think that it's the most
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dangerous theory that has emerged in decades. i think it's entirely unsupported by the text and history of the 14th amendment. this was written after the civil war after an actual rebellion where hundreds of people died. it is notable trump has not even been charged with incitement, let alone rebellion or insurrection. yet they say this doesn't even require an act of congress. that any judge can simply announce that he was supporting an insurrection and that he is therefore disqualified. >> all right. several points there. obviously he's saying the context matters. hundreds of thousands of people died in the civil war and that was why this was written and that it would be inappropriate to use it in the context now. he does raise the point accurately that trump has not been charged with rebellion, insurrection or incitement. does he have a point there? >> absolutely not. mr. turley doesn't know what he's talking about. the fact that there was no
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charge of incitement, no conviction, that's not the point. this provision was written specifically as an all ternativ saying whether you're convicted or not. they didn't expect people to be convicted under president johnson. whether you're convicted or not, that's a separate matter but if you engage in an attempt to overturn the government, you shouldn't be entrusted with power. how many have to die before we enforce this? there were several who died at the capitol during the insurrection. that's all nonsense. it is conservatives like the judge and member of the federal society who agree with me. i'm afraid jonathan turley is basically a hack. he doesn't really know what he's talk talking about. >> he makes a legal issue.
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one other thing i want to give you a chance to respond to comes from one of the secretaries of state who would theoretically be charged with removing trump's name from the ballot. this is brad raffensperger, who stood up to trump when trump wanted him to find the votes. he's stood up, written an entire book about it. stood up for what was right in georgia. he writes in "the wall street journal" though this today. a process that denies voters their chance to be the deciding factor in the nomination and election process would erode the belief in our representative democracy. for secretary of state to remove a candidate would only reenforce the grievances of those who see system as rigged and denying voters the opportunity to choose is un-american. does brad raffensperger have a point that the voters should be the one to make this decision? >> i respect him but it seems to me that the constitution has to have a say in this. suppose bill clinton or barack
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obama or george w. bush wanted to run and people supported them. they would not be able to run because they're not eligible under the 22nd amendment. suppose a 30-year-old, wonderful, you know, charismatic character wanted to run. would it be undemocratic to keep them off the ballot? no, democracy is defined partly by the rule of law. to say that we shouldn't follow the disqualification clause of the 14th amendment because we haven't had this kind of situation before. i understand that, but it's not democratic. it's autocratic. the point of this provision was that people who try to overturn the government seize power can't be trusted with power. democracy doesn't mean trusting people with power whatever they do. punishing them for what they've done is a different matter.
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whether he should be convicted, whether he should serve his natural life in prison. that's a different matter but whether he should be fisdisqual school d is a pure constitutional question. they might find a way to say this doesn't apply to president trump, former president trump. but i would love to see that opinion because the history, the text, the language, all the things the conservatives say they believe in and some have had the courage of their convictions to say that that's the law, i'd like to consistent with that how you say this provision shouldn't be enforced. >> it's a thought provoking conversation, thought provoking answer. thank you very much, professor. appreciate it. >> thank you, erin. next, the video of a killer on the run scaling a brick wall
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feet on the other and basically moon walks. pretty incredible to see just standing there. there's people around the corner. just happens. he's been serving life without parole because he stabbed his exgirlfriend 38 times and he did it in front of her very young children. so surrounding pennsylvania school districts are now closed as the man hunt continues to expand. it is now in its seventh day. danny freeman is "outfront." >> tonight, astonishing new video showing the moment the convicted murderer escaped a pennsylvania prison. you can see the 5 foot, 120 pound inmate extend his arms and legs against a narrow section of the exercise yard before crab walking up the wall to the roof. he then pushed through multiple layers of razor wire to escape the prison. >> we believed the measures were sufficient, they have proven otherwise and we will move quickly to enhance our security measures.
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>> but this is not the first time this has happened at the chester county prison. they said this escape is nearly identical to another inmate's escape at the exact same spot just four months ago. court documents obtained by cnn describe how that inmate climbed a wall in an exercise yard and pulled himself on to the roof of the prison but the tower officer on duty flagged the inmate's escape and he was caught in five minutes. that did not happen last week. >> the tower officer did not observe nor report the escape. the escape was discovered as part of the inmate counts when inmates come in from the yard. >> the latest break is now being investigated internally and by the pennsylvania attorney general's office. meanwhile, pressure continues to build to catch him. the once small perimeter canvassed by police now rapidly expanding after another sighting tuesday night to the southeast of the prison. >> everything i'm able to see,
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the various sightings we have had, other aspects of this investigation lead me to believe he is still in this area. >> he was sentenced to life in prison for murdering a woman in front of her two children back in 2021. newly obtained court records say her 7-year-old daughter told police he said he would do something bad to their lives before he fatally stabbed their mother 38 times. the children ran to neighbors for help, telling police that's him, that's the guy that killed my mom. his sister ther sister saying i unbearable. i was desperate, desperate. fear of him showing up here at home. while police try to capture him, residents are feeling the stress, too. >> it's tiring, exhausting and your nerves are on edge and you second guess everything.
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>> erin, tonight pennsylvania state police have told cnn they have found footprints and other signs that he is in certain areas still of this search perimeter, but while canines have been used to try and track him down, still no luck. remember, this terrain around the prison still very difficult to search. there are woods, creeks, there are a lot of heavy areas with brush and that means there are just a lot of places to hide. >> danny, thank you very much. amazing. seven days have passed. i want to bring in callahan walsh now, alongside his father who continues his lifelong mission of capturing fugitives. this incredible video of the escape, you know, it's almost like you're watching someone moon walk backwards scaling a wall, doesn't even look like it's a prison from the way they're dressed and everything there. but this guy is serving life without parole. it's been seven days and they
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don't know where he is. what does this say to you? >> well, you know what, that detention facility really has a lot of answers to the questions that we all have on how this guy was able to escape. especially after the fact that there was another fugitive who escaped just recently. i heard they brought in a third party company to help secure some of the areas of lack of security there, but obviously it wasn't enough. and he's out on the run. this is a real fault of that detention facility. not only are the taxpayers now going to have to pay for the man hunt that's going on right now, entering its seventh day, but they're now at risk. in danger. you have an escaped inmate who has nothing to lose. there have been many sightings. hopefully he's brought in sooner than later. i just hope nobody else gets hurt. >> i just want to be clear of what this person did. he was convicted of stabbing his girlfriend 38 times to death. killing her in front of her two
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young children. and he is now out as you say with nothing to lose. trying to escape. what do you think he's capable of if he is not caught soon or if he's cornered in some way? >> well, he's capable of anything. he's a convicted killer but he's also wanted in another murder back in his home country of brazil where he brazenly shot an individual over a debt. i think he shot him six times at close range in public. this guy is a dangerous individual and he will go at nothing at this point that's going to stop him. he is out on the run. he knows he's wanted in two different countries for murder and he's a dangerous individual because of that. the public is going to be instrumental, i believe, in finding him but i urge anybody who does spot him to do the right thing and call law enforcement and not take matters into their own hands. >> you've had a lot of experience capturing fugitives.
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as you point out, there have been multiple sightings here. law enforcement setting up a two mile perimeter around a wooded area. the search area keeps expanding. may have gone into someone's house to get food. do you think he is still close by? >> i think he is. i think he's traveling at night and trying to avoid some of these sightings. a lot of the video camera footage was at night so i think he's trying to stay under the radar and trying to use the terrain to his advantage. but i haven't seen a man hunt that's lasted this long with so many sightings. i think he's going to slip up. i don't think anybody is helping him. i want to remiepd the public to not only say something, but don't help him but leaving your car unlocked. a shed unlocked. some place he could get into and get supplies that helps him evade law enforcement. secure your belongings outside
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the home as well so you don't help this guy continue to allude law enforcement. >> like people leaving their keys in the car. thank you very much. good to talk to you. >> thank you. next, stocks falling as oil prices jump, raising major red flags. new inflation fears. la larry somers is "outfront." russian forces retreating from intense gunfire from inside the trenches. you'll see it ahead. ( ♪ ♪ ) start your day with nature made. the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand. i was stuck. unresolved depression symptoms were in my way. i needed more from my antidepressant. vraylar helped give it a lift.
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tonight, oil at a ten-month high. oil trading at its highest level since november, closing above $87 a barrel, which stokes inflation fears because it means gas prices are going up. the national average for regular gas over labor day weekend hit the second highest level ever. that's according to aaa. gas prices typically fall as the summer ends but not this time and the decision by opec to withhold oil supply is causing more distress. "outfront" now, larry somers and former treasury secretary in the clinton administration. larry, i appreciate your time and obviously, you've been the person the white house listens to closely on inflation. sometimes, with frustration, but they listen. you've talked a lot about your concerns here. are you deeply worried now by what we're seeing, oil prices
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going up? gas prices going up, as we're in an environment where production has been cut overseas and the strategic petroleum reserve here in the u.s. has not been replenished. >> look, it's something to be concerned about. the question isn't so much what happens to gas prices in the near term. i suspect they're going to go up at least a bit over the next couple of weeks. beyond that, it's very hard to forecast. but gas prices are always fluctuating one way or the other. question is really what's going to feed into the underlying inflation rate. and the concern is that we've seen good news, which is tendency for inflation expectations, core measures of inflation to come down and that's a favorable thing. and the question is whether
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that's going to continue or whether this is going to settle off a bit of a spiral with prices chasing prices and wages chasing wages. where inflation picks back up and i think that's a hard thing to judge. i think the federal reserve has made clear that it's going to be watching very closely. that it's open to the possibility that it may need to apply more monetary policy. but it certainly hasn't come to that decision yet. i think that's an appropriate place for them to be. i do think it's very important that we stay focused on containing inflation. because i think history suggests that there are often false dawns with respect to inflation. i think the biggest mistake we
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could make would be to squander the progress that's been made and to allow inflation to reaccelerate. i'm not predicting that but when you see things like what's happened with oil and gasoline, it raises those risks. >> everyone's been talking about it, you pulling up a chart of late 1970s inflation. when you saw false dawns, it looks identical to now. the rate of inflation slowed dramatically as it did then then the horrific surge and economic times. so in that context, you have correctly warned about inflation and warned about in these past few years saying it was coming before others did. but you did say that high unemployment would be needed to reduce it and right now, even though the inflation rate has been coming down generally, unemployment remains incredibly low. right? it hasn't taken a surge in unemployment for this to happen. so president biden seemed to have you in mind this summer.
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he tweeted in part, quote, remember when the expert said to get inflation under control, we needed to lower wages and drive up unemployment. i never bought that. new york magazine stated in a headline in june pretty blunt on you. they said larry somers was wrong about inflation. were you wrong? >> i don't think we know yet. i was certainly right that inflation was going to substantially accelerate. whether we're going to achieve the proverbial soft landing, we all hope so. we all would agree that the data has been favorable for the last two or three months. but whether this is all going to continue without having a recession, i don't think we know the answer to that yet. whether inflation is going to come down to the levels the fed has declared its target, i don't think we know the answer to that yet.
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so i think it's way premature for anybody to be declaring victory and to be saying that the whole inflation problem has been resolved without recession. though i'm certainly gratified by the fact that the numbers have come in somewhat better than i would have expected. though i think there are a number of factors. the gasoline prices are one. the treatment of health insurance and the consumer price index is another. some very technical things about seasonal adjustment is a third that make me less than entirely confident that the next few numbers are going to be quite as favorable as the last few were. >> so president biden as all this is happening is scheduled to leave for india tomorrow to attend the g-20. in that context, these are global issues. housing is actually sort of a, i don't want to use the word
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crisis, but there's a lot of challenges around the world. and the u.s., mortgage rates in august, highest level in more than two decades. credit card debt, report in this country. average loan for a new car is a record high. all these things are really scary. they're scary in the united states. they're scary in other countries around the world. as he heads to the g-20, is there anything biden can do there to change the economic situation? >> look, i don't think there's any kind of miracle that can come from a communique, but if there is a sense that comes out of this meeting that there is global cooperation around developing clean energy as an all alternative to fossil fuels in surge of lower energy prices. if there is a sense that there
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is a commitment to avoiding crisis in the developing world that can take a toll on growth here. if there is a sense that the global financial institutions, the imf and world bank, are being reenergized. if there is a sense that with all the tensions, we in china can both recognize that we both have a stake in growing prosperous markets in the other country. if there's a sense that the g-20 is on the case of the global economy, i think that could help invigorate confidence and always with the g-20, there's a special role for the united states. so the responsibility of leadership is going to sit with president biden. >> all right. larry summers, thank you very
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tonight, new video into "out front" filmed by the ukrainian third assault brigade, showing ukrainian soldiers fighting from the trenches. russian soldiers are firing back. but under the onslaught, they leave their positions and retreat. antony blinken arrived in kyiv, announcing more than a million dollars in funding for ukraine. the kremlin fired back with this warning. >> reporter: they are essentially going to keep ukraine in a state of war and to wage and continue this war until the last ukrainian, without spare anything money for it. >> the last ukrainian. fred pleitgen is "out front."
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>> reporter: the moment the powerful missile hit a market in constantine in eastern ukraine, chaos and carnage in the immediate aftermath. while russia has not commented on the strike, the ukrainians say this was the work of a russian surface-to-air missile used to hit ground targets. dozens were killed and wounded here, kyiv says. first responders trying to help the wounded while already clearing the body of the dead. an angry ukrainian president slamming russia's leadership. >> translator: whenever there's any positive offensive step by ukrainian defense forces, russians target civilians infrastructure wherever their missiles and artillery can reach. >> reporter: this is what zelenskyy means by positive steps. ukraine's army is pressuring the russians both on the eastern front. this video kyiv says showing fighting at the crack of dawn
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near bakhmut and in the south, where ukraine says its forces are pushing the russians back after taking the village and fortifying their own position. one soldier, who fought in the robot na recalling hiding in the village alone from the russians, ready to kill himself if they found him. [ speaking in a non-english language ] i carried a cartridge in my pocket, he says. i would not surrender to capture. on a visit to kyiv, secretary of state antony blinken praising ukraine's recent advances on the battlefield. >> we see the important progress that's being made. >> reporter: but moscow says its forces are inflicting massive losses of advancing ukrainian troops. and despite losing territory, russian president vladimir putin claiming kyiv's offensive is failing. this is not a mistake, he says, it is a failure. at least today, this is what t it looks like. let's see what happens next. i hope that it will continue to
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tonight, storm watch, as recovery efforts continue in the aftermath of idalia, another hurricane is forming, and it could reach category 5. hurricane lee rapidly intensifying, as it moves over record warm ocean waters in the eastern caribbean. reporting sustained wind gusts of 75 miles per hour. they expect that to possibly double. it's too soon to tell whether lee will impact the mainland. a direct hit would be devastating. even if it isn't a direct hit, its effects could reverberate up and down the entire east coast. thank you very much for joining us. us. "ac 360" begins now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight on "360," they are in this together, with cameras recording two of the georgia defendants told they cannot be tried one at a time. breaking news tonight, hunter biden is facing criminal indictment.
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