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this is the fulton county sheriff who watched trump get booked at his jail speaks out for the first time since his arrest. and then sounding the alarm. the world's top nuclear safety agency warning of a security threat to the major nuclear power plant in ukraine. the largest in europe. multiple explosions reported tonight. and the eye of the storm. hurricane lee just shy of category 5 shaping up to be one of the biggest storms on record in the atlantic. a long time storm chaser predicts epic effects on the east coast. let's go out front. >> ron: good evening. out front tonight, breaking news. meadows rejected. a federal judge just denying the former trump chief of staff's bid to move his georgia election case to federal court. it could have major implications for trump because trump said yesterday that he wants to move his case out of georgia, too. there is his precedent. that was failure. med said he should be immune
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because he was performing his official duties.adows said he se because he was performing his official duties. he might have had a much better chance of getting it dismissed. but judge tonight -- by the way, we expected this ruling could have come the past few days of the judge took time to come to a conclusion saying tonight meadows had not met the low threshold for removal, going on to add, quote, the evidence before the court overwhelmingly suggests meadows was not acting in his scope of executive branch duties during most of the overt acts. he failed to provide sufficient actions that these actions related to any legitimate purpose of the executive branch. this is extremely significant and comes as we got a rare look inside the case today. the unredacted special grand jury report that resulted in so many indictments is now public. we now know in fact that the jurors recommended charges
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against an additional 21 people in addition to the 19 charged. that's stunning. recommended charges against more even got charged. senator lindsey graham is among them. and it is stunning. trump was ultimately charged with 18 others. the report says that the grand jury vote recommending charges against trump was not unanimous. one juror voted against those charges. and i want to get to evan perez in washington tonight. what are you learning about this order regarding meadows and the significance of it? in the context we have known this decision could come any day. the judge took the time to get to the very bottom of it and now we have got a decision. >> right. this is a 49-page decision, and the judge really goes through chapter and verse of what evidence meadows presented. you remember he actually testified on his own behalf at the evidentiary hearing and provided additional evidence for the judge to consider.
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as a matter of fact, the judge points out that some of the things that meadows presented, even in his testimony and evidence that his lawyers presented,tali went against him. they point out that meadows had trouble even trying to explain the scope of his authority, the limits of his it authority as a feder officer and he acknowledged a everybody on that phone call with brad raffensperger, everyone, all the lawyers on there were actually campaign lawyers. i will read you just a part of what the judge says, you know, where he describes the limits what meadows was trying to do. the evidence at the hearing establishes that the actions at the heart of the state's charges against meadows were taken on behalf of the trump campaign. the ultimate goal of affecting state election activities. he goes on to say, erin, one of the most interesting parts, he talks about the limits on federal officials ability to interfere with state elections. he says the executive branch
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cannot claim power to involve itself in state's election procedures when the constitution clearly grants the states to power to manage elections under the elections clause. again, this portends perhaps poorly for other people. the judge makes clear though that this does not apply to anyone else because he going hear all the other challenges when they come. but it really shows that they have an uphill climb ahead. >> absolutely. now, you are also getting breaking news regarding rudy giuliani. what are you learning? >> right. gal giuliani is asking the state judge overseeing the state case his -- in his indictment that they should dismiss this -- these charges, and at a minimum should hold a hearing. they say that this is conspiracy and that giuliani believes that the charges, of course, without merit. we expect that fani willis will respond to this at least from the initial read of how this judge is overseeing this, erin,
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this not likely to go very far. >> thank you very much, evan. so let's go out front to anthony mic mic michael reaae and elliot williams. elliot, let me start with you. on this breaking news, the judge, 49-page carefully considered decision to reject mark meadows' bid to move to federal court. v blunt very blunt. do you agree? >> i do, wholeheartedly. what the judge did me particularously is walk through the acts that mark meadows was accused of or admitted done, having done, and noted none of they will actually were in the scope of his duties as white house chief of staff. none of them except one. one where he sends a text
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message to are epttive scott perry asking for someone's phone number was the one thing that you could construe as within his duties as white house chief of staff. everything else was at the behest of the trump campaign and people need to know bthere is a big difference between a political activity of a candidate of office and official duties of a white house chief of staff. it's right, i think. >> so, anthony, you have others who may ask to do same, move the case it federal court. donald trump is one of the them, right. his lawyers said they were considering asking to move to federal court. trump has said that they are going to do that. now, it was interesting what the judge said. like, you know, don't look at this as marrying to anybody else. i will look at these cases on their own merits, seeming to say this precedent, it doesn't shut the door for anything else. it seems to make it more of an upward climb, doesn't it? >> yeah, i think it's unlikely given the standard and how it was applied to mark meadows anybody seeking removal will be
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successfully removed from state court into federal court. the big key here, i think, for the meadows analysis that will apply to others is that the judge was very clear that pre-election, so before votes are count, there is a greater federal interest. but once the votes are counted or cast and counted and the certification process underway, it's a state function. so to remove this case from state to federal court given that would actually be a form of federal interference and not a form of neutrality, which is what the removal statute is about, providing a neutral venue for people being charged related their federal employment. >> does trump have a chance? >> i really don't think he does, at least in front of this judge. certainly these decisions will get appealed up to the 11th circuit where i was a law illegal firework many years ago. maybe even the supreme court. trump doesn't have a case because the same arguments that applied to mark meadows are substantially going apply to
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donald trump, he was a candidate for office, petitioning a state election entity for -- with respect to irregularities in the campaign. as the professor said, this a state issue with respect to a campaign. not an official federal issue that the president or the white house chief of staff in their official roles out to have been dealing with. >> so, anthony, meadows was on that infamous phone call where trump pressured the secretary of state raffensperger to find 11780 votes. in the rule there is focus on meadows' role on that call. the judge writes, quote, meadows acknowledged that lawyers on the phone call were lawyers for either the president -- for either president trump personally are the trump campaign and that no lawyers from the office of white house counsel or the department of justice were on call. it was outside meadows' federal role as an executive branch officer. i know you believe this is an important part of the ruling. how come? >> it's obvious that the judge
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is making, i think, a dual point here, which is, one, that the supreme court has actually said that there is no official executive interest, federal executive interest in private litigation. that's from a case called clinton versus jones. and as well, these are all lawyers that are political. and so it's also not within the prerogative of federal officials, federal employees like mark meadows, to engage in political election earring. and so you kind of have the dual pincher movement, both those things happening, which undermines the notion that mark meadows was up to anything legitimate or furthering a federal interest. >> elliot, the other news, the special grand jury report. they charged 19. they didn't charge twent that the 21 that the grand jury recommended. they recommended 21 additional charges. it is stunning when you think about it. what does this tell you about the case against people who were charge, why some were charged, why others weren't. and what do you take away from the fact that the trump decision
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was not unanimous that there was one individual who did not vote for his indictment? >> right. certainly with respect to the trump decision, i think it doesn't bode well for putting this in front of a jury. there is always going to be disagreement and frankly at the special grand jury stage they had a lower burden than prosecutors will have at trial. they will have to convince a trial jury beyond a reasonable doubt to convict and this special grand jury didn't even have that. who knows what will happen here. with respect to folks getting charged versus folks not charged, there were some tricky legal questions about how charging members of congress with crimes that might have happened within their official duties, i think would have been really difficult to charge people with. the folks who got charged were clearly charged on account of the fact that the prosecutors looked closely at and thought and believed that they could actually win at trial. and i think it's a reflection of the good work, quite frankly, the prosecutors did in assessing
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charges where they thought they could win an important point, the one juror who voted not to indict trump. the standard is lower than for a conviction in an actual courtroom. this case by all accounts will go to trial and even if it goes the longer end as the judge in fulton county indicated maybe up to eight months you could end up with the possibility of an acquittal or a hung jury before the election. i mean, how do you kind of thread the needle on that? do you think that they -- that putting this to trial is the best idea? >> i think there is a really big difference between the pettit jury, the jury that will hear this at trial, and the special purpose grand jury. the special purpose grand jury has a different process in terms of juror selection and the voy dire process, more vigorous in the trial setting. we have to remember the special purpose grand jury, these were investigators, right, citizen
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investigators trying to wrap their heads around a considerable amount of information over a long period of time which is different from a trial where the d.a. presents a narrative, a story and spoon feed all of this evidence to them in a way that the special purpose grand jurors were wading through themselves. so i think there is a lot of reasons one hole-out juror may be a cause for concern or a cause for some special attention by the d.a. as they go forward, but i think we have to acknowledge these are very different institutions in terms of what their purpose and function were. >> to that point, there was a lot of folks who only had one vote against them. so it seemed like -- i don't want to read too much in it. it might seem there was one person voting no every time. >> it does in the highly politicized environment we are in raises questions about where we are going as these cases go to trial. next, the fulton county sheriff is out front. in is his first interview since
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move his case to federal court. ruling that meadows' actions to help trump overturn the election were not connected to his official duties as white house chief of staff. many say that if meadows failed to move his case out of fulton county, bad news for the other 18 co-defendants, including donald trump. now the fulton county sheriff, this is his first interview since former president trump was arrested and processed at the fulton county jail, which, you run. thank you so much for being with me tonight. so you have got this breaking news. the judge saying the trial for mark meadows is going to stay in your county, which could be a sign that a lot of other cases are going to stay in your county, including that for the former president himself. fani willis, the d.a., says she wants to hold a joint trial for all of them starting next month. she says it would be four months. the judge said it could be eight. we saw your security preparations, how tight, how involved, how intensive and exhausting for the one day trump
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surrendered. how do you sustain that for maybe eight months? >> first, i'm very proud of the women and men in the fulton county sheriff's office as well as the many local and state partners that really jumped in to help. it was very well thought out. to your point, testimony be -- we will create a rotation to help sustain something of that magnitude. we have here in fulton county a little expertise in working with these situations. we have had large trials before. nothing of of this magnitude in terms of the status, but we certainly will -- we will live up to the opportunity to show how well fulton county and the sheriff's office present. >> right, right, because, i mean, that, you know, that's running a marathon, as you say. that would be day in, day out, months and months. you were there for former president trump's entire booking process. we poke before around and you were adamant trump would be treated like any other defendant. that included his mugshot.
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you were there with him in your jail. what was that like for you? how would you, you know, how could you describe his demeanor as we was being booked? >> well, i will tell you, having been in law enforcement for 32 years, having been in the jail environment equally as long, it was eerily quiet. when you have that many security protocols in place. i will tell you, he came out, he was very stoic. really in a space that he was able to really lean on what we were doing, what we planned, and so we took his mugshot, took his fingerprints as we would anybody else. we arranged for the bond paperwork to get him off the premises as quickly as possible. >> interesting when how describe his demeanor stoic, it was eerily silent. when you went through the mugshot, fingerprinting, did he say anything? did he have any conversation? was he silent? >> no, he was pretty silent.
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we spoke. our team gave clear instructions. he took the mugshot. like anybody else, took his fingerprints. he was in and out pretty quickly. >> and no issue? not that he could have. but, i mean, he was -- in terms of his face, as you say, just stoic, no expression? >> no. it was, again, eerily silent, and really it was, for me, on a personal level, it was heartbreaking to see someone of that stature and who represents our country in that fashion having to go through this. but, again, the women and men of the fulton county sheriff's office are sworn and professional, very, very, very professional and making sure that we followed through not only with our commitment to serve our community, but really focus on the job at hand and get the former president out. >> it's interesting how you describe it as heartbreaking. it's important for people to remember that it should be for everybody, everybody in this
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country. trump did, of course, when he walked out, he grabbed that mugshot and ran with it, proverbially, said he raise the $7 million in a few days. he, you know, put out t-shirts and coffee mugs with an image. he toned it. he used it to raise a lot of money. then he said this about it. >> i think the fake indictment that they did in georgia was very helpful, and then they insisted on a mugshot and somehow it turned out to be very iconic. >> sheriff, in retrospect, do you think it was a mistake, do you have regrets about doing the mugshot, you know, given he, of course, capitalized on it in a massively lucrative way? >> well, if there were any regrets, the copyrighting, i leave that up to the lawyers. there is an opportunity for us to, hopefully, take part in the capitalization in that and put it back in the sheriff's office. we will leave that up to the legal beagles, if you, and make
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sure that they earn their keep around here as well. we are focusing on, again, our -- making sure we maintain the safest possible facility we can, as well as, again, i understand that the capitalization of it. and maybe that was the plan all along. i don't know. but we are in a place to maintain our commitment, make sure we focus on treating everybody as humanely as we can. >> to that point, sheriff, i want to ask you, of course, a lot of the news out there about your facility. you talk about as -- trump has attacked your jail conditions there. one of the fundraising emails he said, while i was being arrested i got a look at the poor and disgraceful conditions of the fulton county jail. it's worse than you can imagine. it's violent. the building is falling apart. it made me more determined to run for president and save our country from permanent dough klein. it is true that the jail is the focus of a civil rights probe by the justice department, ten inmates died this year, the
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latest i understand was earlier this week. i want to give you a chance to respond to all of this. >> well, first, let me say that that's why i was present. i wanted to make sure that when these fake accusations came out about the facility and the portion he was in, i actually was there and witnessed the portions that he actually walked through very briskly. so to that end, that, again, much like everything, is fake news from that perspective. and then, secondly, in terms of the doj and the justice department, if you go back and you look at steps that we have taken since i took office, since 1/1/21, the focus has been on us making sure we have been very transparent, but also a space that i reached out to the burrow of justice national institute of corrections in november of last year and asked for help. we work with our board of commissioners to really focus on how do we create better -- a
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better environment. we inherited this. there is no mistake about that. overcrowding across the country has really -- really taken precedence when you look at the number of arrests, the number of things that -- violent arrests in our facility. while it seems like an anomaly, the fact that the jail is a microcosm of our community as a whole speaks volumes. but we are focusing and laser focused on making sure we ask for everything we need and then get our women and men of the fulton county sheriff's office the tools to really combat this urgent crisis that we have. so even earlier today i met with the chairman of fulton county, the board of commissioners, so we could talk about that. >> all right, sheriff, i appreciate your time. thank you so much for coming on. >> i appreciate it. thank you. >> all right. and next, hurricane lee could be one of maybe the most powerful storms ever recorded in the atlantic. long-time hurricane hunter mike boylan says the impact to the
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180 miles an hour, gusts 200 miles an hour. the storm is currently about 500 miles east of the northern leeward islands. it's track as it approaches the north america is unknown. a strike on the united states coast could have devastating effect. at this moment, noaa's hurricane hunters are flying over the storm to get a better understanding of it and how hard to could hit the east coast. let's show you the storm's eye. this was filmed just this morning. the intensification stunning to watch. you see the storms and then actually just a little peek of, you know, you're in the eye, right? so actually stars through this mammoth. chad myers is in the weather center. so, chad, you know, you're doubling your speed in 24 hours. wind gusts north of 200 miles an hour. been measured. this could be the strongest recorded storm ever in the atlantic ocean when it's said and done. what does this mean? >> it means that this hurricane has some work to do.
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if we are going to get to any of that, because it had a very rough 12 hours. this thing looks horrible right now, and that's great news. it ran into sheer today, which means wind that kind of tore it apart. i often say hurricanes are like my cat. don't touch me. and if you touch it with something, it doesn't like it. and that's what happened today. so hurricane hunters are in it. the first pass they flew through was 120 miles per hour. they have more times to if through and look for higher wind, but that is some good news. we have a storm that had a very tough time even keeping its eye intact today. forecasts is still 145, category 4 across even 125, but the end of that cone, erin, is wednesday of next week. we have a long way to go. and even at that, that is still only north of puerto rico. keep in mind, there are no models that have a u.s. landfall
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yet. models are made by humans. humans make errors. models have errors. we have to watch this. but it's still forecast to turn hard to the right. if it turns harder the right sooner, then all of a sudden, bermuda, you are yoin the middl. later, yes, east coast, nova scotia, atlantic canada could be in this thing. a high pressure to the north. low pressure it the west. it's going to try to what we call split the uprights between bermuda and the u.s. one more thing it has to worry about is hurricane franklin. i know that was last week. but hurricane franklin used up a lot of the water, the hot water there is gone. it got mixed up with cooler water below. that could also take some stuffing out of the storm. all of these are hopefuls. still even if we have a landfall in the u.s., we are talking seven to eight days from now. you have a lot of time to prepare. as it gets closer, we'll know. but something's certainly to
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watch. >> right, right, absolutely. a lot that can happen in that time. fascinating that point about franklin. learn something new every day. thank you. so let's go to long-time florida stormer mike boylan, he runs weather page with more than a million followers. i appreciate your time. right now and chad talked about the tough 12 hours the storm had. it's one of the strongest storm on record, could be the strongest. we will see what happens. a lot of experts are baffled by it. you think lee could hit the east coast hard. what are you seeing? >> yeah. i saw the same thing today. these storms have a tough time to stay that intense category 5. some of our high resident lugz models are showing it come back monday, tuesday, wednesday in the 920 millibar range. there is a lot of unknowns. there is a lot of warm water. what we saw last night was the most amazing thing i have ever seen. it was the most ragged system looking ever. it turned into a powerful 5 in a
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short amount of time. the video you shared, holy cow. so what i'm seeing is this thing is going to grow. there is a line coming in. the models are showing this thing really expanding the wind field, the basic size. right now it's four to 500 miles wide. even with the skirt, this thing, future, you know, looking at all the future models, it's going to expand so large. even if it skirts the coast we will see a lot of wind, waves, coastal impacts. pressure ranges could be in the 950s, 960s. that could be borderline category 2, 3. that's quite a few models. so i am concerned about people not thinking it's going to abdirect hit. a skirt just like last week with idalia could be bad. this has the potential to really get large and that's kind a what i'm looking at next week. >> you know, i mean, the rapid intensification is incredibly rare, right? that eye, as you say, stunning,
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right? 80 miles an hour and within a day 165 miles an hour in a matter of a day. it is incredible. i know it hit some sheer. so we'll see what happens. what does that moment tell you about the storm and how dangerous it could be? >> well, the last several years we have seen almost a storm every year do this. i was tracking ian last year. i went from, you know, 50, 60 miles an hour to category 5 overnight, you know, about two days. ida did that. looking back, all these storms have been doing this. it's been incredible to me that warm water. that was hot topic the beginning of this season. we had a lot of hot water expected, you know, record warmth. i think we are seeing the effects of that now. even though we are supposed to be in el nino, the warm water is proving bigger than any of us realized how hot water definitely fuels these storms.
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tonight the fight to keep donald trump off the ballot trump railing against a lawsuit to keep him off colorado's 2024 primary ballot using the 14th amendment's ban on insurrectionists holding public office. the former president calling it ridiculous and unconstitutional. trying to get the case moved to federal court. the maricopa county recorder, a lifelong republican, frequent guest on our program. he stood up to members of his own party, pushing back against baseless claims of voter fraud in maricopa county. i appreciate your time tonight. this is in colorado. colorado is not the only place. of course, arizona is another, right? arizona is another state considering how to handle similar efforts to use the 14th amendment to disqualify trump. how do you see this? do you think the 14th amendment should be used in this case?
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>> i mean, anything that can happen that's exciting in elections seems to happen in arizona. it's fitting that we are teasing out in arizona. my friend, somebody you had on the program before, adrian fontez, our secretary of state, is looking at this right now. i know one of the professors that wrote that paper that is causing all this commotion, he is a law professor at the university of chicago. a brilliant conservative. i would put great stock in what he says. this will have to be played out. it's preposterous that we are asking these hypotheticals, it's a question relegated to the courts and isn't a matter of public opinion that someone like this could still be the nominee of one of our major political parties. >> there is a crucial point. and i know you talk about the legal arguments there. it was interesting. i was talking to professor tribe, a supporter of it, as well, you know, and they make strong arguments, yet the
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georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger can't keep trump off the ballot. he is, obviously, the secretary of state in georgia. he said it would backfire in the sake of democracy, this should be given to the voters. do you have a strong point of view? or this moves ahead in arizona, are you cool with it? >> the terms of the future of the repeated lies and attempt to undermine our democracy, undermine our institutions, i hope that would be soundly refuted within the republican party. it doesn't appear as if that's going to happen. if it does make it to the general election, for this to be ultimately defeated i agree with brad and gabe in georgia this has to be refuted at the ballot box. again, legal processes should be played out. if it were in my ideal world, this would be defeated at the
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ballot box. >> okay. so you talk about these lies, right. trump is continuing with this day in and day out, right. and yet he has got a 34-point lead. commanding leeld. our latest poll, it's a dead heat between him and president biden. what does to tell you about american democracy that this is still embraced so overwhelmingly by republican voters? >> it's incredibly disheartening. you would think that the world's beacon of democracy no way could this happen here, but clearly it can. i still have confidence in the american public. but it's shocking to me that some of these conversations, some of these actions could go on and still that percentage of people could be willing to contemplate going down that road. certainly, few places, if any, have had more of this happen than arizona. just last week, i was in a sentencing in a federal district court for someone who threatened to kill one of my colleagues
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because of the elections in 2020, the elections in 2022. how many more people like that have to be locked up, supporters of president trump, have to be looked up because of the falsehoods that they are following? like lemmings over the cliff. >> how are you dealing with? ? i know, i mean, there was a missouri man indicted last month after threatening you. you talk about your colleague. this is three years after the election. you are still dealing with this, death threats to you, to your family. >> you see things that are happening in ukraine, you see things that are happening throughout the world, and it gives you a sense of an arc of history. so without being too melodramatic about it, i feel privileged to play a role in this incredibly important conversation, which is whither american democracy, whither our liberal democratic reforms and regime that we have been the world's leader of. and i think that's worth fighting for.
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i am going to continue that fight. i know a lot of my colleagues are going to continue that fight. i know a lot of them have chosen not to continue that fight. can't blame them. but i am trying to look at the positive of it. >> all right. steven, i am glad to speak to you again. thank you for your thoughts. >> thank you very much. your thoughts are appreciated here in maricopa county. i think we will continue to feel like the center of the political and electoral world here. >> right. all right. well, next here "outfront," kim jong-un on the verge of meeting with putin, showing off what north korea claims is its first submarine capable of launching nuclear weapons. what weapons will he be sharing with putin? prison guard on tduty when a convicted murderer escaped from prison has been fired. the inmate remains on the loose for a ninth day despite now being spotted many times. raise the jar to flavors from the world's finest ingredients. and now, from jars to bars.
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and remember they had sort of been dismissive of what president zelenskyy told us earlier this summer. he said he had intelligence suggesting the plant, which is as large as a city, had been mined by the russians. news of the explosions coming tonight as we have new video showing ukrainian and russian soldiers coming face to face with each other feet away as they are firing at one another, as you can see on the highlighted spots. fred pleitgen is out front. >> reporter: ukrainian troops assaulting russian positions in eastern ukraine. kyiv says its forces are piling on the pressure, both here and on the southern front line and are gearing up for more. these soldiers practicing mountain warfare specifically to assault russian occupied crimea. [ speaking in a non-english language ] >> translator: if we come to crimea, there is a big
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possibility we would need these skills. we would be fighting in the mountain because there will be partisan warfare. >> reporter: but ukraine's army is still far away from crimea, and the gains they are making are slow, incremental, and come with a major human cost, as the number of dead and wounded escalate. kyiv specifically telling women with medical education they must register for military service starting october 1st. in an exclusive interview with cnn's fareed zakaria, ukraine's president urging the u.s. to have patience while ruling out any compromises with vladimir putin. >> do you see any compromises from putin? did somebody see? where's chechnya? where's georgia? where's moldova? he occupied it all this time. >> reporter: but the russians are facing major issues themselves, short on manpower and ammo, the u.s. believes
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vladimir putin is actively advancing negotiations with north korea to provide arms to russia. [ speaking in a non-english language ] >> reporter: this says north korean strongman kim jong-un pledges military advances, claiming pyongyang has developed a tactical nuclear submarine, even though south korea believes the sub is not even capable of normal operations. >> translator: we will rapidly pursue the process of converting all medium-sized submarines into attack types in order to turn those existing submarines into nuclear submarines at once. >> reporter: viktor bout, who was freed in a prisoner swap late last year, speaking to u.s. media for the first time since the exchange. bout, who was known as the merchant of death and was serving a 25-year sentence for, among other things, conspiring to kill americans, has always maintained his innocence.
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in an interview with espn, bout brushing off outrage. >> the same outrage was in russia when i was sentenced to 25 years. many people would say, for what? just for talking? are you serious? >> so, that was viktor bout there. meanwhile, the ukrainians get more western weapons. the first batch of german battle tanks have arrived in ukraine, and ukraine is set to receive dozens more of those vehicles in the coming months. those will be extremely important as the ukrainians try to sustain those counteroffensive operations. >> fred, thank you very much tonight, in ukraine. next, the latest on the search for the convicted murderer who escaped a pennsylvania prison. the manhunt now goes into the ninth day. postmenopausal women with hr+ her2-
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or report that convicted murderer danelo cavalcante escapes, caught moon walking sideways between two walls in a yard before vanishing, so far without being found. danny freeman is "out front." >> reporter: a show of force after two more credible sightings of convicted murderer, danelo cavalcante. >> i'm optimistic. we'll see how the day goes. >> reporter: the number of law enforcement agents deployed in chester county now close to 400. reinforcements began after a sighting in a wooded area by a witness thursday afternoon combined with an image from another private trail camera turned over to police last night. >> that is definitely cavalcante. it puts him over in the area of lawn wood gardens. >> reporter: the new image was taken wednesday but shows
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cavalcante still in the area. >> some cameras are not ours. so, we don't control that technology. we rely on others that may have a camera out there. >> reporter: police say the picture is similar to this photo captured at lawn wood gardens monday night, the two images taken just a quarter mile apart. pennsylvania state police say this is the largest law enforcement presence yet. on day nine of the manhunt for cavalcante, troopers blocking roads, searching vehicles, and holding a newly expanded perimeter. >> we have got numerous tactical teams that are out doing searches. we've got a large perimeter secured that is a pretty secure perimeter we can push hard against. >> reporter: as the manhunt drags into its second week -- >> what you're looking at here is a map of the general area where our perimeter is. >> reporter: -- a nearby fire station has become a bustling command post, officials taking cnn behind the scenes of the multiagency response. >> in this area, we've got tactical teams operating right
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now, mounted, k-9s, aviation. >> reporter: police able to adjust hundreds of officers with every credible sighting. >> why was this amount of people deployed right away? >> the numbers, you will see them rise and fall. if this isn't successful, i may keep the same number, depending what the information is. we had as many as we needed for the various operations that we had going on. >> reporter: last month, cavalcante was convicted for murdering his ex-girlfriend back in 2021. but the killer is also wanted for murder in his home country, brazil. today, police revealed the inmate who effortlessly scaled a prison wall last week eluded brazilian authorities by spending time in the jungle. >> i think he can probably endure for a little bit out there. but, again, the whole goal here is not a contest of how much can you take out there. it's how much can we stress you, how much can we push you that you make a mistake and we
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capture you? >> reporter: erin, as we continue deeper into the second week of this manhunt, it has been frustrating and difficult for many residents in the area. obviously everyone wants this man caught. but with this constant police presence and worry, it's getting harder to stomach without a capture. erin? >> we'll see what happens in these next hours. danny, thank you very much. and thanks very much to all of you for joining us on this friday. friday. "ac 360" begins right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight on "360," breaking news, a judge says mark meadows' trial will stay put. no federal trial because his alleged crimes had nothing to do with his role at the time as the former president's chief of staff. also one of the top constitutional scholars on the effort he helped launch to bar donald trump from the 14th amendment from ever holding high office again. and tonight marks the 20th year this broadcast has been on cnn, so i'll take you back to some of the most
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