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capture you? >> reporter: erin, as we continue deeper into the second week of this manhunt, it has been frustrating and difficult for many residents in the area. obviously everyone wants this man caught. but with this constant police presence and worry, it's getting harder to stomach without a capture. erin? >> we'll see what happens in these next hours. danny, thank you very much. and thanks very much to all of you for joining us on this friday. friday. "ac 360" begins right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight on "360," breaking news, a judge says mark meadows' trial will stay put. no federal trial because his alleged crimes had nothing to do with his role at the time as the former president's chief of staff. also one of the top constitutional scholars on the effort he helped launch to bar donald trump from the 14th amendment from ever holding high office again. and tonight marks the 20th year this broadcast has been on cnn, so i'll take you back to some of the most memorable
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moments we've covered. >> also two media centers -- >> woah! >> that was a large explosion. >> and some of the most ridiculous ones as well. [ laughter ] >> all right. sorry. [ laughter ] >> yeah, not proud of that. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin with the breaking news, the judge late today denying mark meadows request to hold his rico trial in federal court. u.s. district court judge steven jones ruling that his alleged crimes did not involve his official duties as white house chief of staff. i'm quoting from his order now. the court finds that the color of the office of the white house chief of staff did not include working with or working for the trump campaign except for simply coordinating the president's schedule, traveling with the president to his campaign events, and redirecting communications to the campaign. bottom line says the judge, quote, the court concludes that
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meadows has not met even the quite low threshold for removal. it comes at the end of a day that began with the release of the full report from fulton county's special grand jury. that panel recommended charges against mark meadows and the former president, including 17 others. the 21 people they recommended for indictment, but for whom fani willis did not pursue. michael flynn and sitting senator lindsey graham. today, despite being not indicted, senator graham said this. >> i think the system in this country is getting off the rails, and we have to be careful not to use the legal system as a political tool. >> again, he and 20 others might have been indicted but were not indicted by the system that he is now complaining about. joining us with more, cnn's paula reid. paula, in the case of meadows,
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what more does the judge's ruling say? and what did it say about the testimony last month? >> it's interesting you asked about the testimony because his own words were used against him. meadows' lawyers are arguing that everything meadows did as part of this alleged conspiracy is part of his job as the white house chief of staff. in the indictment, they lay out eight overt acts meadows took in furtherance of this alleged conspiracy. his lawyers insist all eight of them, that was all part of being the white house chief of staff. but a judge here saw it differently, said, no, these were political activities. and then points to his testimony, noting that when he was asked to describe the limits of his power as chief of staff, he couldn't. and then they also note that in that infamous call with the secretary of state, brad raffensperger, he points to the fact that the lawyers in the call, those were campaign lawyers and the judge firmly rules that these were all political activities, which is why he is not going to be able to remove this case to federal court. his lawyers had hoped that they could get this removed to federal court and then get it
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dismissed because there are certain immunity protections afforded to federal officials. but of course it does not appear that that is going to work out for them here, though we do expect they will try to explore all of their appeal options. >> and what does it mean for the 18 other defendants in this case? >> officially, the judge says this should have no impact on any other defendants. meadows was the first of five defendant who is have said they are going to try to move their case to federal court. we also expect the former president will do so as well. but i talked to lawyers who represent defendants in this case. they were all watching the meadows case. some haven't even filed yet. they're like, i'm not even going to bother until i see what happens with meadows because if he's not successful, my client sure as heck is not going to be able to meet this bar. they believe as the white house chief of staff he had the greatest chance of successfully removing his case to federal court. so, it's not a great sign for the other people have tried to do this. former president trump is not similarly situated. it's a different -- it's just a different case.
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it's going to be a different set of considerations for a judge if and when he formally files to try to remove his case. but anderson, this is significant because even the judge overseeing this case talked about this appeal and the potential for other appeals and how that could impact the timeline for a potential trial. so, this is the most significant development in this case since the indictment came down. >> paula reid, knew. joining us now is jim jerden, practicing attorney who gave grand jury testimony in the case. also former federal prosecutor jessica roth and cnn legal analyst jennifer rogers. professor ross, what do you think this means for the former president. i do want to read what paula mentioned, what the judge said. he said, the court also makes it clear that it's a termination of meadows' notice of removal and jurisdiction over his criminal prosecution does not have any effect on the outcome of any of the other defendants who filed notice of removal in the criminal prosecution against them. >> it was notable that the judge made clear he was not prejudging the motions by any other
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defendants. but it's really hard to imagine, given the reasoning in this opinion, that any other defendant, including the former president, would succeed on their motion for remooufl, given the reasoning in this opinion, including the president and his chief of staff -- it would apply equally to the president -- should not have been playing a role. that same logic should have applied to the former president. >> the judge was pretty brutal about mark meadows' case that was presented. he said it was a low bar and he failed to even meet that. >> yeah. i mean, the judge was careful to say, you know, i'm going to go through his testimony because that was the main evidence they presented. but i'm not saying he's lying. they attacked all of the overt acts and that's what we're going to focus on. he went through them one by one and said he couldn't even tell us the outer limits of his job responsibilities. i find that, you know, he wasn't acting within them when he was acting on behalf of the
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campaign, meeting with campaign lawyers, and asking them to do campaign-related things, like more recounts, spending money for recounts, and that kind of thing. >> the job of chief of staff is not go to to georgia to oversee a recount and pressure people to do a recount. the judge pointed this out. it's essentially to run interference and direct people to the campaign when there is stuff that should be the job of the campaign. >> the judge points to the hatch act which is the federal law which precludes federal officials from pursuing campaign related activities during their official time. and said that's very instructive in terms of determining whether or not mark meadows was acting properly when he pursued these clearly campaign-related political activities. >> jim fjord dan, as someone who testified before the grand jury investigation, i'm wondering what you thought of the judge's decision. >> i think it's right legally. i think it's important to look at his analysis with respect to
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georgia's rico statute. and specifically meadows' team really attacked the overt acts. you really don't have to prove the overt acts in order to get to rico and get to the conspiracy. they're really there just, kind of, as lags or place holders. so, it's interesting because really the prosecutor doesn't have an obligation to plead overt acts necessarily and can even prove other overt acts during the trial. so, focusing just on those acts that aren't criminal in nature, and that's really what they did even in terms of the messaging, right? they happened to say, oh, this was just him setting up a meeting. you know, this is what he's supposed to do as chief of staff. and really just, kind of, focusing on those acts. but at the end of the day, that doesn't even carry the water with respect to the legal burden that the prosecutor is ultimately going to, you know, have to meet if she's going to prove this rico case. >> professor ross, is there any
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benefit for meadows to move for a speedy trial in georgia, or would it benefit him to hang back and watch the others who are moving for a speedy trial so he can see the evidence presented. >> i suspect he's going to appeal this decision. he has the right the appeal an adverse decision on the removal. >> this is the 11th circuit, which is more conservative, no? >> yes. and this is an area where there really isn't much law, and the district court judge acknowledged that. i think that's part of why he wrote such a long, thorough opinion. he recognizes he's making new law here, and the 11th circuit could view this differently. if meadows really wants to be in federal court and if he wants to delay things, then he would likely pursue the appeal. i don't see him having any advantage of pursuing a speedy trial. then why not hold back and see how the first trial goes and what the evidence is? maybe there is a strategic reason to move for a speedy trial at this point, but i'm not seeing it. >> jen rogers, the other story
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out of fulton county, were you surprised by what we learned today about the other defendants that could have been charged? >> i was surprised there were so many. i mean, you know, 39 people that the special grand jury identified as chargeable. you know, i'll also say it says a couple of things. one is that fani willis and her team clearly went through the evidence with a fine tooth comb. they didn't just rubber stamp the recommendations. they went through each person, each count, made sure they had the proof they wanted and acted within their prosecutorial discretion. i will also say, i think it's really unfortunate that the names were released. kwoukd have known how many people were recommended for prosecution and how many fani willis charged -- >> unfortunate because? >> because these people have a right to privacy and a right to not have their names out there. and now the whole world knows -- >> their names out there when they weren't being charged. >> a grand jury found they
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shouldn't be charged. now these people have to live with that without having the opportunity to clear their names in court. not that they want that opportunity. but it's something that would never happen in the federal system. jessica and i were talking about how even though transparency is generally a good thing, i think in this instance, it would have been better to keep the names redacted. >> in this new filing, rudy giuliani is asking the court to quash his indictment or have a hearing on the matter. he called the indictment conspiratorial, consisting of criminal acts, daily protective speech. do you see any way giuliani is successful here? >> no. this feels like part of his fundraising tactics, right, to get his legal bills paid. >> i don't think it's the most relatable word to use. >> of words to use, right? this is just another tactic about giuliani just to try to act like what's happening here is not legitimate. and that is not the case.
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but one of the things they all need to be very caringful about in terms of their statements, whether you saw john eastman giving an interview on fox and he basically admitted some stuff, you know, in that interview. but even with respect to giuliani at all, the statements that they're making, they are subject to the bond conditions, right? and so whenever they make statements about other witnesses or anybody who may be called in this case -- for example, like governor kemp. you know, at any point in time, the prosecutor can go to the judge and say, look, they violated their bond conditions, and then those folksal could ultimately end up in fulton county with respect to rice street jail. >> thank you. as for what the former president thinks of all this, he's due to speak shortly in rapid city, south dakota. cnn's kyung lah is there now. have you heard anything from the former president about the judge's decision on meadows? >> not exactly. we are expecting, though, that he will be taking the stage just in the next hour or two.
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and we fully expect and will be listening to see specifically if he talks about the mark meadows decision today. as paula was just reporting to you, anderson, certainly his lawyers have indicated that he is going to try to seek removal to federal court. but whether or not those finer details actually happen, for the people in this very large stadium who are waiting for trump, it doesn't matter to them politically. what they want to hear is the fight anderson. i can stand in the room here and i can see multiple people wearing his mug shot as a source of pride. >> is that -- i'm sorry. is that "the phantom of the opera" soundtrack playing? >> it is, indeed. we've heard sinead o'connor. it's been a different sort of playlist. >> i'm sure sinead o'connor could have been thrilled to hear that. i think we're going to have to
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go because the sound is, sort of, overpowering. kyung lah, thanks very much. some political perspective from jamie gangel joins us, and democratic strategist paul begala. jamie, i know you've spoken -- >> i feel bad. i'm still back with "phantom of the opera" and bully your base. >> he could have said -- and that would have been relatable. doesn't say much. >> i know you've spoken to three former chiefs of staff about the argument meadows is making on the stand and the hearing to get the case removed to federal court, that essentially everything he did fit into his role as chief of staff. clearly the judge did not buy that. >> no, the judge didn't buy it and neither did the former chiefs of staff. paul can address this. i know that we're allowed to swear on cable tv, but to put it politely, the former chiefs of staff that i spoke to laughed
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and they said, in a million years, what he was doing certainly was political, did not, in any way, come under what they would call their chief of staff duties. look, this is the reason why you see when a president is running for re-election, if you want your chief of staff or a cabinet member or a top official to be part of the campaign, they leave the white house. >> paul, i mean, so -- paul, you obviously agree with that. >> i do. you know, president obama, when he was up for re-election moved jack lieu in to be his chief of staff. jack went on to be treasury secretary. he's now nominated to be ambassador to israel. he's not a political hack like me. i think president biden is doing the right thing. jeff zients is a business person and a management guru. ron klain, the president's first chief of staff, much more political. ron has moved out. jamie is exactly right.
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this is a pretty well trod path here. and as always, mr. trump seemed to have deviated from it. >> paul, in the cnn poll that was released earlier in the week, broadly speaking republicans, republican leaning independents, said even if the charges are true, it's not relevant to his fitness for the presidency. do you see -- i mean, obviously today's news -- is any amount of news going to have an impact on that? >> nope. >> yeah. >> nope. sorry. it's the most impregnable readout. i can say impregnable readout. it is a brick outhouse. they're never going to penetrate it. the problem mr. trump has, though, is independence, right? they don't like this. and they do think that these charges are very serious. but you remember trump famously said -- he was speaking figuratively -- he could shoot a man on fifth avenue and not lose any votes. we don't even mention anymore that just four months ago a jury in new york found him civilly
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libel for sexually abusing a woman on fifth avenue. he's been adjudicated for that. he's presumed innocent. he's not entitled to that presumption in the civil case that's been adjudicated against him. it didn't move him down a point even though a court of law found he sexually abused a woman. he can get to 45 very easily. it's impossible to get to 50. never once since the day he slithered down that escalator, has donald trump had 50% support in this country. and he'll never get there. >> back on meadows, based on your reporting around the january 6th investigation, what was meadows doing that's now gotten him to so much legal peril. he's really at the center of trying to overturn the election. >> look, he was front and center. he was with donald trump. he was speaking to him. he knew what was going on there. he was setting up meetings. he was having people come into
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the white house that white house counsel said had no business being there. in fact, he is the person who set up the call with the georgia secretary of state. so, this is really a problem for him. when the judge ruled today, this was a bad day for mark meadows. and as paula reid mentioned earlier, the judge used his own words against him. taking the stand in this case was, i think, really questionable at the end of the day, even if they appeal it. my understanding, from talking to legal experts, is that this case is likely to stay in georgia. >> and so far, paul, president biden is -- he's largely remained silent when it comes to the former president and these indictments. do you think that's a sustainable approach? will he have to weigh in? do you think it's a good idea?
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>> i think he needs to say absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing. first off, just constitutionally, as the president, there are federal charges, not in georgia, but there are federal charges that he could have some power over, i suppose. and it's very important for him to -- by the way, it's exactly what trump wants politically is for biden to weigh in on this. he can say, you see, it's a setup. they're coming to get me. what the president needs to do that he's not doing, the biden campaign, rather, is attack trump not only the alleged criminality but on the issues. wouldn't it be nice if somebody once in a while talked about jobs, inflation, health care, crime? let's watch kyung's reporting tonight. i bet you a dollar trump doesn't say anything about that stuff. he's before the opera, me, me, me, me. biden ought to be talking about you, you, you, you. >> paul thee gala, did you work on that line? it's good. >> he did. >> 20 years on the air,
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anderson, by the way. congratulations. that's like dog years. a guy who used to cohost on this network. it's like you've been here 130 years. >> thank you. coming up next, reaction from constitutional scholar lawrence tribe, who's advocating for keeping meadows' former boss, donald trump, off the 2024 ballot under the provisions of the 14th amendment. later, the body cam video that convinced authorities to charge a philadelphia officer with murder. start your day with nature made. the #1 pharmacist recommmmended vitamin and supplement brand.. (ella) fashion moves fast. setting trends is our business. we need to scale with customer demand... ...in real time. (jen) so wpartner with verizon to take our opations to the next level. (marquis) wi a custom private 5g network. (ella) with verizon business, we get more control of production, efficiencies, and greater agility. (marquis) so our customers get what they want,
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we just got mark meadows' first public reaction to a judge's denial of his request to have his trial moved to a federal court. it comes in the form of an appeal. perspective from lawrence tribe, co-author of "to end a presidency: the power of impeachment." your reaction to mark meadows' decision to appeal this ruling? >> i'm glad he appealed quickly because it will make it easier for the 11th circuit to rule against him quickly. there is no serious basis for the appeal. the judge's 49-page opinion, judge johnson, very carefully reasoned. but the basis of it is essentially that it is not part of the executive function of the president or his chief of staff to try to meddle in a state election, especially to overturn it and deprive the citizens of the state of their representation.
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so, i don't think the appeal will succeed. it'll get a little bit of delay, but i think the appeal will fail. the u.s. supreme court will probably deny review. and then what started in georgia will stay in georgia. >> do you think that the ruling has any ramifications for whether or not the former president might be successful in moving his case to federal court? obviously the issues involved for him are different for meadows. >> they're different but if anything, they're worse. meadows could at least say, look, i was doing my job, following the president around and doing his bidding. the president's job is not to overturn an election in georgia. if you read the opinion, it's pretty clear, even though the judge is not prejudging any other motion to remove w, when e president moves in the federal court to lift the case out of georgia, he's going to be riding coat tails that have already been shown not to get anywhere. i don't think he'll succeed either. >> you, along with a number of conservative legal scholars believe that the 14th
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amendment's ban on succession should apply to the former president. just on wednesday backing that idea. the former president's legal team filed a motion to move that case to federal court. should this be decided by each state or by federal courts? is this a federal constitutional issue? >> i think it's pretty clear that it should and will be decided by the state court. in fact, about 15 minutes ago, the plaintiffs in that case filed an unopposed motion, not even opposed by the president, to send it back to state court because in this case, there is no jurisdiction in the federal court. it's a suit by a group of voters who have standing under colorado law but not under federal law. under federal standards, it would be outside the jurisdiction of an article 3 court to re, sort of, it. and under 28 u.s. code section
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14-47c, i think it is, the court has no discretion but to remand it. and that's exactly what i think is going to happen. so that case will be tried in state court. the case brought to disqualify the president. >> so, this is not something you think that would end up in the supreme court? >> oh, it will end up there because when the ruling is finally made against the president, as it could well be, then the president would certainly have standing to seek review. one way or another, whether from colorado, which is the strongest of these suits so far, or from some other state, it'll reach the supreme court. it'll really have no choice but to decide. and that really is the main point that judge luttig and i and some others have been making. and that is clearly the plain language of the 14th amendment applies here because it says that anybody who takes an oath to uphold the constitution and then basically turns against the
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constitution and tries to overturn it in an insurrection or by giving aid and comfort, can't hold office again. there are a lot of disqualify cations out there like, you know, a lot of other quite popular people, like bill clinton or barack obama or george w. bush. they can't run for another reason. they've already won twice. this guy perhaps is disqualified under this provision. either way, when there is a constitutional disqualification, it's irresponsible to say, well, it's politically unrealistic which to exclude someone so popular. politics is not the end of the game. the constitution means something. it has to be taken seriously. the u.s. supreme court, though, might not agree, might ultimately say, yes, the constitution must be taken seriously, but it doesn't apply here. we'll have to wait and see. >> how long a process for it
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ultimately to get to the supreme court? i don't know if there's any way to tell that. >> i think it could get there before the republican convention because i think it's extremely important and the supreme court will recognize it's extremely important that it be resolved in connection with the primaries. it really would be a constitutional mess for the nominee of one of the major parties to be excluded from the ballot. he's going to be excluded. he needs to be excluded before the republican convention picks a nominee. and i think that's why this case is going to move really very speedily through the u.s. supreme court. >> lawrence tribe, it's always good to have you. thank you. >> thank you, anderson. congratulations. >> oh, thanks so much. coming up, philadelphia official today released this body cam video showing the moments leading up to a deadly police involved shooting. the officer involved haez been charged with murder.
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tonight a philadelphia police officer has posted bail, as he faces several charges, including murder, for the deadly shoots of this man last month. the charges come as officials today release the body cam footage showing the incident. the video contradicts what police initially said led to the shooting. some of the video you're about to see is disturbing. >> reporter: it began when philadelphia police say they saw a man driving erratically and going the wrong way down a one-way street. they catch up with the car that was now parked, and all it took
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was a few seconds. >> show me your hands, show me your hands. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ] shoot you. [ sound of gunfire ] shots fired, shot fired. >> six shots were fired. ed eddie i czar ri was later pronounced dead. what you just saw was not what police initially said happened. they said they encountered irizarry outside the car. as video shows t driver's decide door never opens. the department's chief did correct the account two days after the shooting. the officer who pulled the trigger, mark dial, was charged with murder. he turned himself in. >> i don't think we're saying anything more than the obvious when we say that firing six
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consecutive charges at close range is strongly supportive, together with other evidence, of all of these charges. in my opinion, it's not even really a discussion. >> reporter: an attorney for dial, though, wants that discussion. >> as officer dial is firing, he's taking retreat. he's trying to retreat and trying to find cover because he believes the individual has a gun. in no world is those facts murder. >> reporter: no gun is visible in the body camera footage, but prosecutors did say irizarry was holding a small, open folding knife against his thigh behind, what we see on video, was a rolled up window. here's one of the responding officers explaining on the scene what he did say to officer mark dial about irizarry in those final seconds. >> one on the driver's side, i'm over here, i try to get the door open. he pulls out a knife. i'm like, he's got a knife, he's
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got a knife. i couldn't really see. i looked up -- i saw his body come up like this and mark fired. >> omar jiminez joins me now. what's the victim's family saying? >> one of eddthe aunts said, th needed the world to see this, especially because of how wrong police got it in the initial phases of this. the district attorney over the course of the press conference, they stress that the family got to see this video first. they had multiple discussions with them beforehand, and they wanted to make sure it was put out with their blessing. >> how is it possible that the police got it so wrong in the initial days, in the first two days. they said he was on the street and that that's where the altercation took place. >> that's the thing. it's not like it was one minor discrepancy. it paint twos completely different versions of what happened. and we've seen it in other cases too. in george floyd there was an initial case that came up by police. and what we saw in video was
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different. in chicago, with lamont mcdonald -- >> anything else but a mistruth, a lie, about the initial encounter. >> exactly. and it was those days later that the police chief came out and said, well, now that we've seen the body camera video, it's a different picture than we saw initially. they had to have known this video was going to get out. maybe that was them trying to get ahead of it and trying to put their accuracy on it. at the time in those initial mom moments, that's when it's most precious for family members to get those pictures. >> omar jiminez, thanks so much. coming up next, tonight the anniversary of this broadcast. it's been 20 years tonight "360" has been on the air. coming up, some of the most remarkable moments we've witnessed in that time from hurricane katrina -- >> to keep fema and the red cross up and operating. >> excuse me, senator. i'm sorry for interrupting. i haven't heard that because for the last four days, i've been seeing dead bodies in the
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streets here in mississippi. >> -- to the earthquake in haiti. >> a young boy is hit in the head. that's him there on the ground captured on my camera. he stay there is, he might get killed. i pick him up, i carry him to the barricade. >> and serious moments move, moving, moments, and some ridiculous ones as well. [ laughter ] >> all right. sorry. [ laughter ]
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david: i'm david goldberg, a bilingual elementary school teacher and president of the california teachers association. as we start a new school year, there's something new happening in california's public schools. jessie: they're called community schools. david: where parents and families, students and educators are making decisions as one.
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damien: it's a real sense of community. leslie: we saw double-digit gains in math, in english, and reading scores. david: it's an innovation that's transforming our public schools. narrator: california's community schools: reimagining public education. 20 years ago on this night, i anchored my first broadcast at "360" and it's been 31 years since i shot my first story. since then, i worked in more than 70 countries around the world, seen things i never could have imagined, and spoke to extraordinary people often in dangerous and difficult circumstances. it has been an incredible honor to do this job and to work with such a talented team of journalists at cnn. tonight because it is the actual
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anniversary, i wanted to pull together some of the most memorable moments from the last 20 years, starting with this night 20 years ago. >> live from the cnn broadcast center in new york, this is "anderson cooper 360." >> and good evening to you, thanks for joining us. welcome to our debut hour. we're following a number of developments tonight. a day of dramatic develop presidents. >> we're really in the heart of the amazon. >> we are live from baghdad. >> live in new orleans. [ crowd chanting ] >> there is desperation and there is danger in the city of new orleans tonight. and what you are about to see in this next hour is going to shock you that this is taking place in the united states of america in this day and age. people stuck in their homes right now, no electricity, no ice, nothing cool to drink. they don't know where to go. they don't know what to do. and they don't really have any information. >> i want to thank senator frist and senator reed for their extraordinary efforts, anderson,
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tonight. i don't know if you've heard, maybe you have announced it, but congress is going to an unprecedented session to pass a $10 billion supplemental bill tonight -- >> excuse me senator -- >> to keep fema and the white cross up and operating. >> excuse me senator, i haven't heard that. for the last four days, i've been seeing dead bodies in the streets here in mississippi. and to listen to politicians thanking each other and complimenting each other, you know, i've got to tell you, there are a lot of people here who are very upset and very angry and very frustrated. and when they hear politicians slap, you know, thanking one another, it just -- you know, it kind of cuts them the wrong way right now. literally there was a body on the streets of this town yesterday being eaten by rats because this woman had been laying in the streets for 48 hours. and there's not enough facilities to take her up. do you get the anger that is out here? >> good evening. i'm anderson cooper in niger.
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starving in plain sight, the crisis. the food short and the likes of which this country has rarely seen. the level of everyday violence in the democratic republic of congo has been unfathomable the last several years. guns and machetes are common. but the most ruthless weapon that has been used here is rape. >> people in the neighborhood just point fingers and say, you're a raped woman, and you're infected with aids. >> she and her children have been living here for the last five months. she would like to be able to return to her home village, but that's simply impossible. the man who raped her is likely still living in the area. they, of course, have never been brought to justice. we're on the way to see a rebel commander with several thousand troops. so far he's been unwilling to give up his weapons. he's been accused of a host of war crimes and human rights violations. his troops are known to have looted villages, raped women, accused of summary executions of dozens of prison r es.
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the government issued an international arrest warrant for him, but so far it seems no one has been able to willing to apprehend him. >> we're in a u.s. military helicopter -- forward operating base in eastern afghanistan along the pakistan border. >> we're now just getting some fire, some rockets have been fired. >> we're coming to you tonight live from gaza city where today we have seen continued violence. also two media centers -- woah. that was a rather large explosion. we've come to iraq this week along with a platoon of cnn producers and correspondents to look at exactly what is happening here on the military and the political fronts. before we go on this journey, we're giving warnings about what to do if we're hit by an ied, grenades, or small arms fire. the security situation where we are has changed somewhat in the last 30 minutes or so. we've been advised to turn off our lights, get down on the floor, and try to barricade ourselves in the area we're in. that's why we're doing this
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program like this tonight. it's not going to look very good over the next hour, but i hope you bear with us because what has happened today in egypt on these streets has been nothing short of extraordinary. my cameraman and producer marianne fox and i were heading toward liberation square in order to report on both sides of the protest. suddenly a man jumped out of the crowd and tried to grab the camera. that's when all hell broke loose. people started throwing punches, pushing us around, screaming. we immediately decided to turn around and try to get to a safe location. several egyptian men helped us, but still the crowd followed, throwing punches. that man had a knife his hand. people kept joining in trying to punch us. we only had about a block left to go when another guy came up and punched me in the head.
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>> i've been hit now, like, ten times. as if the soldiers are doing nothing. >> finally, rereawe reached a s location. >> where's leo? where's leo? >> all we were trying to do today was report on both sides of this conflict. >> you're saying that there's two teams now that are inside the mine. they've made their way about 4,800 feet towards the trapped workers. >> wait a minute, wait a minute. charlie, charlie, we've got to come back to us. wait, wait. come here. what is happening? >> there's only one -- there's only one made it out alive. >> you were inside the church?
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>> yep, we were inside the church. >> and you said there is fistfighting now? >> people are screaming, you're a liar, you lied to us. >> come over here, please. >> it's been misinformation, and it's awful. >> you kids were in the church too? >> yeah. >> and you heard this? >> yeah, we tried to run away. >> i took the kids and we ran out the church as fast as we can. >> i can hear yelling now. >> they're screaming and yelling and the police are in a big brawl. i don't know how something like this could happen. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> here tonight from port-au-prince, haiti, the epicenter of this horrible earthquake, which has struck here more than 24 hours ago. our correspondents have fanned out throughout the port city of port-au-prince throughout this day bringing you the latest information, as we have seen it through our eyes, and as the haitian people are experiencing it every minute. wherever you are watching this broadcast throughout the world, i hope you can hug a loved one close and thank god that you are not in port-au-prince tonight. >> -- brought to general hospital by his uncle, who says
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he found him in the rubble alive after nearly eight days. he was covered in dust, weak, and limp. a doctor and a nurse quickly gave him an iv. [ speaking in a non-english language ] >> he said he feels good. >> he's already looking better since he's gotten here. he might have some complications, but he's got a very good chance of survival. >> joining us now is --. we're very happy to have him here and registered nurse, gabriela, from stanford hospital in california. when i first saw him this morning, i didn't recognize him almost. >> he's hydrated now. when we first got him, he was dehydrated. we gave him some fluids. after eating and drinking, his progress is great. >> two hours ago or so, when you guys heard distinctive tapping, is it possible that was just ambient noise? >> it very well could have been. >> the other possibility is that a person expired, that they tap at one point and then they're no
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longer able to. >> this is true. this is -- we're four days into it without food and water, and we're talking about possibly a 10-year-old girl. and there's only -- every human has their limits. >> their last hope is to lower several microphones in different parts of the building. >> they've now placed four microphones in separate locations on the ground floor in the rubble. this is a critical moment. if they hear something, they'll continue working. if they don't get any response, they're going to stop the operation. [ speaking in a non-english language ] >> tap, tap, tap. >> in the movies, this is when a small sound would be heard, a faint tap, a child's cry. but this is haiti, and this is real. and despite their best hopes, they hear no sound of life. you can just see a chunk of concrete or rock thrown by one of the looters from the roof. a young boy is hit in the head. that's him there on the ground, captured on my camera. if he stays there, he might get
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killed. i pick him up. i carry him to the barricade. blood is pouring from his head. he's clearly stunned and can't walk. >> come here. >> i hand him over the barricade. he's carried away. >> a massacre that happened in a gay night club just a block from where i'm standing two nights ago. there are more than a list of names. there are people who loved and were loved. there are people who had families and friends and dreams. >> he was incredibly lucky to have you as a mom.
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>> i was -- my luck started when i gave birth to my son. >> we finally got it for her. she just tried to call the police. >> she tried to -- she actually tried to call? >> yes. i got confirmation from two of the students in her classroom that she was just trying to call authorities. and i guess he just shot her. how do you look at this girl and shoot her? >> i cannot believe that texas officials from the governor on down, are just now silent. there's no new information coming out. >> it's just not the way you do these investigations or how you give information. they should have given us a full briefing from the beginning.
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you know, that's how they do things. these shootings, you get a briefing. >> and it's not just reporters. it's the grieving families who want to know why their children are dead. >> i'm not sure they ever told the families exactly what happened here. >> keeping it them honest. >> keeping them honest. keeping them honest. >> it happens happening. >> where? give me one person, one person that's been born. >> you are telling people that this cures covid. you have no studies to prove it. and you're saying 1,000 people were tested. >> i have my own study. >> come on. >> i thought it was fun. she's a pretty woman. >> you're running for president of the united states. >> excuse me, excuse me, i didn't start it. >> with all the due respect, that's the argument of a 5-year-old. >> i didn't start it. >> this is the strangest event i've ever had. nobody laugh. >> up next -- oh, thank you. appreciate it. very nice.
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very funny. ha ha. i've been having bunny jokes around the office for several weeks now. so, these carrots are -- appreciate it. >> this brings us to tonight's edition of "things i never thought i'd say." mike and ike do not exist. they are not real people. they are candy. and as such do not possess genitals. now, also, just for the record, sour patch kids are not real kids. star bursts don't have real stars in them. and there isn't an actual ranch where the jolly rancher works. last night on a flight from paris to dublin, reportedly peed on the floor. they should thank their lucky stars it wasn't depart 2. that made me giggle every time i write it. they have commented on this incident -- [ laughter ] depart 2. i know you got it but -- [ laughter ] all right.
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sorry. [ laughter ] [ laughter ] >> sorry. this has actually never happened to me. you just got to let it out. you just got to let it -- [ laughter ] >> i am truly grateful for the opportunity that i'm given each night, and i strive to get better every single day. and i want to thank you all for watching all these years. and i'm certainly grateful for all the men and women who put this program together, who dedicate their lives at cnn to telling the stories that matter. that's it for me tonight. the news continues. have a great weekend. i'll see you monday. "the source" with brianna keilar starts in a moment.
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