a, quote, procedural step in on going process to ensure iranian funds can move from one restricted account to another and remain restricted to humanitarian aid. poppy? >> natasha bertrand, thanks very, very much for that reporting. we'll keep a close eye on it. "cnn this morning" continues now. ♪ putin's cavalry is coming led by kim jong-un. meaning that putin hopes will result in an arms deal. >> the reason we're watching this so closely is how desperately each needs things from the other. >> very big challenge. a dire threat to the west. ♪ the pennsylvania state police are confirming another sighting of the escaped murder danelo cavalcante. >> pennsylvania state police issued a series of reverse 911 calls that cavalcante possibly has a weapon. >> now we're going to prepare for the long game. ♪ donald trump is pushing to remove federal judge tanya chutkan from presiding over his

election subversion case in washington. >> trump's lawyers argue that certain comments that she made mean that she needs to step aside. >> you have neither the facts nor the law. you pound the table and yell like hell. ♪ good morning, everyone. it's the top of the hour. we are so glad you're with us. there is a lot to get to. it has been, what, 13 days of this manhunt? >> and still not finding him. still seeing him every once in a while. and now it's got an lot more dangerous. >> right. because they think he's armed. right now a very dangerous situation continues to unfold in pennsylvania. police say this convicted murder who escaped prison nearly two weeks ago is now armed. danelo cavalcante was spotted late last night about 20 miles north of the prison. this is video of an armored vehicle and heavily armed officers swarming the scene. he is still on the loose this morning. residents in the area are being urged to stay inside and lock all doors and windows and vehicles. >> cnn affiliate reports a pair of shoes believed to be

cavalcante's were found in the area. and shortly after that, police received reports of gunfire. and this just in, owen j. roberts school district made the decision to, quote, close all schools and offices today as a result of the increased police activity in the area. cnn correspondent danny freeman has been tracking everything for everyday of this. danny, what is the latest down there? >> phil, poppy, this was an update that so many feared for so many days. danelo cavalcante now armed and still on the loose. i got to say, this has been a very active morning along pottstown pike. the main search perimeter now just a few miles up the road. police have closed off this area, but we have seen, as you said, armored cars coming into the area with law enforcement officers dressed in fatigues entering the area. and all of this really started last night. and i just want to emphasize kind of where we started and how we got to this point to tell you what specifically we know at this time. yesterday remember, phil, poppy, was a pretty quiet day in this search.

law enforcement really focussing in this general area of east nantmeal, it's a small community in chester county. but importantly it is the community where danelo cavalcante ditched that stolen dairy van over the weekend. and then last night, everything really changed. we saw a number of law enforcement officers really flying down pottstown pike. we saw helicopters in the air. then a few specific things happened. chester county reported that there was a shooting in east nantmeal at around 10:10 p.m. in the area of coventry road and ridge road. then pennsylvania state police confirmed to cnn at around 10:24 there was a confirmed sighting of cavalcante. then we learned a 911 call went out, reverse 911 call went out to the south coventry township community saying they should lock windows, lock doors because cavalcante may be in the area. at that time, the reporting was that he may be armed. well, then at 1:45 this morning,

pennsylvania state police confirming that cavalcante is indeed armed. so, this new perimeter, like i said, 3.5 miles up this road. we are at a staging area just south of that particular point. and i should say that this search area is just about 4.5 miles north of where cavalcante ditched that van that i was talking about earlier over the weekend. so he has, according to police, stayed in this general area of chester county. we're still working to confirm more details about that shooting incident that took place last night. poppy, phil, this has been the nightmare scenario for this 13 day manhunt that cavalcante could get his hands on a weapon. police confirming he is armed at this time as the search continues. >> nightmare scenario is right. danny freeman, keep us posted throughout the morning. thank you. let's talk about all this with philadelphia's former police chief and cnn senior law enforcement analyst charles ramsey. gosh, if i'm a parent waking up this morning to this news and i find out my kid's school is closed because one of the schools around there is closed,

i'm thinking, what do i do? right? the police tell me to lock the doors, lock the vehicles. i don't go to work? this is like terrorizing this community. >> well, it is. i mean, it's something that certainly is upsetting. but it's right now the best thing to do. keep your doors locked. keep your windows locked. keep everyone inside. this has changed quite a bit now. he is armed. i'm here in philadelphia, so obviously the local news is all over this as well. what we're hearing any way is he did break into a home last night. the homeowner heard him actually fire shots at him. whether or not he was hit, i don't know. but he did take a rifle. 22 caliber rifle from that home. so he is definitely armed right now. that changes things dramatically. a dangerous individual to begin with and now he's armed. and so, what they're probably most concerned about is him

trying to barricade himself inside of a residence or some other facility. we don't know again if he's injured. police probably know if there was blood at the scene. but, all these factors now coming together. you see s.w.a.t. teams there. they're trying to really close in on a real tight perimeter and take this guy down. >> yeah. how does -- i think you're getting at this to some degree. expand on what this does in term of changing tactics from law enforcement when you know he is armed, when you know he has a weapon. >> well, you know, you have to be careful when ever you're doing these kind of searches any way. now you have to be very, very careful. if he has a rifle, if he sees the officers out there during a search, he can obviously take a shot at them. so that just height ens the awareness and dangerer they're facing. they're move ahead any way. they'll use dogs, drones, other

ways in trying to pinpoint his location. but in the meantime, you still have to get in there and try to get -- he's a threat to the community. >> so much of what you do is about the mindset and the mindset of someone. how do you assess his mindset 12, 13 days in and how that dictates his approach. >> he is desperate. he has nothing to lose. he's facing life in prison without the possibility of parol. now he has a firearm. and so the question now is whether or not will he surrender, which is doubtful because if he wanted to surrender he would have done it some time ago. or does he plan to, you know, kill himself, try to kill others? we just don't know at this point in time. we just know that he's dangerous. he's probably in a state of panic right now. he's going to be irrational. you have to be very, very careful. we thought he was dangerous before, he is very dangerous now. >> all right, charles ramsey,

thank you very much. so we want to tell you act these evacuations that are under c way after heavy rains triggered flooding in north central massachusetts overnight left drivers trapped in their vehicles and entire roads, some areas impassable. officials say 11 limpbls of rain fell in some areas along a reservoir along leominster. a road was essentially gone after a sinkhole formed. a number of streets will remain closed today in the region as teams work to fix that damage. right now officials are giving update. of course we'll keep you posted as well. well, in his debut with the new york jets, 22 years after 9/11, aaron rodgers ran out of the metlife tunnel carrying the american flag in the first quarter against the buffalo bills on his first drive, rodgers was sacked and injured. the four-time mvp hobbled up for a few moments and went back to the ground. he was helped off the field. but, even without rodgers the jets were able to secure a major win against division rival in overtime. coy wire joins us now.

coy, you were at last night's game. we were talking last time you were up here about the goose bumps of that moment when he ran out. and then, oh, no. >> yeah. the roller coaster of emotions. i mean, i hadn't seen a stadium that rocking since like beyonce halftime show. i mean, it was -- i'm not kidding you. it was jumping, so much energy. jets fan, a sea of number 8 jerseys, rodger's jersey. the hopes were high. as quickly and big and bold as it was it deflated in an instant when it happened. you could hear a pin drop in that place, even bill's fans. even i was concerned. no, this can't happen. this is not how the nfl script is supposed to go, right? we all wanted to see aaron rodgers throughout, one of the greatest players to ever play the game, four-time league mvp. this was supposed to be the moment where he comes and brings the jets back to their glory, which happened about 25 years ago, when -- >> sorry. maybe that's their only super bowl title. this is a team and fan base who

really thought, this is a strong possibility. we could make the super bowl run. >> why are you speaking in the past tense, coy wire. >> they did still beat the buffalo bills. it's too soon to talk about that. they had an incredible win. >> for rodgers? >> the team did say that the x-rays were negative. good sign. but, they're concerned about -- coach robert sal la said after the game concerned about his achilles. i talked to an orthopedic surgeon after the game and he said it's absolutely a ruptured these. so we will see. mris will happen at some point today and maybe sometime early afternoon we'll hear if that is indeed the case. if that's true -- >> as a former player, you hear you have a ruptured these, what does that mean for the season? >> listen, that's one of the most difficult injuries to come back from. i had several teammates who had that. he's 39 years old, poppy. he is the oldest, active player in the nfl. he is a bit like superman, though. you don't want to rule that out. kobe bryant, as you mentioned earlier, phil, kevin durant came

back from ruptured these. they were a bit younger than aaron rodgers. we'll see what may hold for the future for jets fans. >> all right. well, it was very awesome night. again, my condolences to jets fans. still wear the jerseys next week. coy wire, we appreciate it. the governor of new mexico will join us live for her first national televised interview after she has suspended the right to carry guns in public across the city of blalbuquerqu and the county. that's next. donald trump is asking the judge in the federal election case to recuse herself. elie honig will break down the legal arguments he's making and if they hold any water. stay with us. the all-new tempur-pedic breeze makes sleep f feel cool. so, no more sweating all night... ...or blasting the air conditioning. because the tempur-breeze feels up to 10° cooler, all night long.

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unconstitutional. governor michelle grisham last week declared a public health emergency and announced 30 day ban on open to conceal firearms. she issued the emergency order after the shooting deaths of three children this summer that includes an 11-year-old boy shot and killed outside of a minor league baseball stadium just last week as well as mass shooting in the state. the democratic governor's move is facing push back from law enforcement officials and gun rights groups. at least two organizations have filed lawsuits arguing that it violates the second amendment. and over the weekend, some new mexicoens openly defied this mandate during a protest. >> we all agree that the governor has overstepped her authority and is actually in violation of the law. >> i don't know what her thought process was that she suddenly thought she could trample the second amendment. >> joining us now for her first national televised interview since issuing this order is the governor of new mexico, michelle grisham.

governor, thank you for your time this morning. let's get to exactly that. we just heard from the sheriff. he joins the attorney general and others who say they won't enforce it. it's unconstitutional. why do it if it can't be enforced? >> well, that's their opinion. they have no bold actions. they don't have any plans for reducing gun violence. every single aspect in terms of preventing gun violence, funds, crime labs, more than 150 million for retention bonuses and recruitment of new police officers, i'm focussed on one thing. we have the third highest gun related injuries in the country, 90% higher than the national average. we lost 143 children between 2017 and 2021. it is unacceptable and it calls for immediate and swift and bold action. and frankly, the evidence bears out over and over again fewer

guns on the streets makes everyone safer. and i'm focussed on everyone's constitutional rights, not just those the nra says i should be focussed on. >> yeah. it's not just the nra. here is one other concern from the sheriff. here is what he told my colleague kaitlan collins last night. >> couple months or year down the road we're the ones stuck in court and getting sued over all these infringement of rights and court battles when i could focus so much more on crime. >> has any law enforcement officer in albuquerque or the county actually enforced this yet? >> well, we haven't issued any civil penalties, but that doesn't mean that we're not and that we don't have the ability to do that. >> that's a no, right? >> this is the pushback i get from -- it's a no this minute. i doesn't mean we don't have police presence. without this bold action you're

sang going a baseball game and hiking trail, there are individuals, including young people where it's illegal today to have a handgun. openly carrying handguns. my question to law enforcement is where are you? where are you? that young 11-year-old, 17 rounds were fired into that gun. 35,000 round are fired at least annually in albuquerque alone. you are not safe going to work, getting your prescription drugs, or going to a public park. and it wasn't just about a cooling off period. it's about making sure that everyone is safer while we do bolder work to get at both the drug epidemic and the gun violence epidemic. >> look -- >> it's not for police to tell me what's constitutional or not. they haven't supported one, not one gun violence effort in the state of new mexico, including

domestic violence protections, universal background checks and i know you want to ask me a question. i'll take a breath. but it's -- these are nra talking points about their rights and not about anybody else's. and it's not a ban. it's a temporary pause so we can make this community safer. >> i hear you. i'm glad you mentioned his name, 11 years old, also in july you had amber, 13 years old killed. those are kids, kids who shouldn't be shot. >> it's disgusting. >> we also have, governor, the constitution of new mexico and the constitution of the united states. and you're an attorney. do you think you're on solid constitutional ground here? >> well, we're going to see. look, i wouldn't do it if i didn't think i had the right. i have the right. >> but where is the right? >> in the state of new mexico, public -- it's a suspension. it's not a ban.

and we'll see what all of these court actions do. and i did saypublicly, poppy, i have a supreme court that says my personal bodily autonomy can be restricted. yet, nra and other issues on the second amendment keeps getting broadened. so, the bruin case in new york, right, deals with conceal to carry. >> right. >> and cases in texas that say you can be -- >> that's, governor, what i'm talking about. >> you bring up the bruin case. let me just ask you this because the supreme court last year totally changed what we're allowed to do, what you're allowed to do. and they say unless you can base it in the history and tradition, you don't have grounds to do something like this. the new mexico constitution, i looked last night, article 2, section 6, says this, quote, no law shall abridge the right of citizens to keep and bear arms for security and defense. no municipality or county shall regulate in any way any incident

the right to keep and bear arms. are you not in viels of the united states constitution and the state's constitution. >> i don't believe we are. if that narrow reading of the constitution, which has been tested in the state, we wouldn't have universal background checks. we wouldn't have a waiting period. we wouldn't have a red flag law. we wouldn't spr a prohibitions for straw purchases. none of those would have been deemed constitutional. and today all of them are. >> they were before the supreme court -- >> absolute right discussions. fair. but they haven't been tested again. >> okay. >> so for law enforcement -- i understand -- not really. look, if you want the community to be safer, show me that you can do that. if you're not going to stand up for these kids and really test as hard as you can getting fewer guns and dealing with gun violence in a meaningful way, then you're basically saying that you won't be responsible to protect the citizens of the state.

well, i will. i will do everything in my power to turn the tide and to make sure every new mexicoen, particularly children, are safe. >> to law-abiding citizens, gun owners in your state, i think they're wondering this morning is this more about making a statement than about enforcele this. i want to play for people an exchange you had with a journalist at your press conference last week. here it was. >> do you really think that criminals are going to hear this message and not carry a gun in albuquerque on the streets for 30 days? >> no. >> you said no. are you going to keep doing this 30 days, 30 days, take it up to the supreme court? or is this about a statement right now? >> no. listen, i can make any number of statements and already have. in 2007 i was very clear about where i stood in my initial

congressional race about gun violence. so this is nothing new. but the rates of gun violence in my state, third worst in the nation, are absolutely unacceptable. and while i see that it is getting more challenging to find strategic efforts to keep everyone safe, that doesn't mean i shouldn't do them. and it's not the only thing in the order. it's about public places. it's about making sure we don't have guns at schools. it's about testing for fentanyl in waste water. we have a growing problem. >> to be clear in your executive order -- you're right, only one part of this is being challenged by the courts. you try to do a lot of other things. i'm glad you mentioned that. one final question about executive power. right? that's a big thing you're testing here, too. are you overreaching? let me give you a hypothetical. you're a democratic governor who is doing this. what if a republican governor of a state declares a health

emergency and unilaterally outlaws abortion in that state, where the legislature has not done so by statute. following your logic, would that also be sound? >> in this situation, honestly i don't think so. but that is what's happening in this country is that we've got extremists on this question and on reproductive rights. and the issue about the emergency order, the difference here is, i had an 11-year-old that was shot and killed with 17 rounds in a road rage. i got a call from a surgeon whose husband was killed in the exact same way in albuquerque. violence is growing. every single investment and strategy, including a bold call to action has failed. and here this is about protecting everyone's rights. republican governor is about restricting some rights.

and i think we're going to see these challenges across the country. but i'm going to stand up for the children and i'm going to stand up for public safety in albuquerque. >> we will watch as you do. i was asking about the law itself and the reach that you have under the constitution of the united states and new mexico. i'm glad you came. this is a really important discussion. please come back any time you would like to continue the conversation, governor grisham. thank you. >> thank you, poppy. >> yeah. donald trump is now asking the judge in his federal election case to recuse herself. we'll break down those legal arguments. and look who just weighed in on the legal cases against former president trump. russia's president, vladimir putin, what he said. that's next. for strength and energy. woo hoo!o! ensure, complete balalanced nutrition with 27 vitamins and minerals. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. ♪ ♪ the all-new tempur-pedic breeze makeses sleep feel cool.

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russia wants to secure more weapons for its war in ukraine and north korea is in need of everything, cash, food, missile technology. listen to how the kremlin describes this meeting. >> translator: like with any neighbor, we consider ourselves obligated to establish good, mutually beneficial relations. we will continue to strengthen our friendship. >> let's talk about all of this with national security analyst and cnn political commentator david sanger. david, you know this stuff inside and out. and i think your take on it is really interesting beyond what this meeting accomplishes is sort of the forming, as you put it, of a new block. what are the big implications of this? >> reporter: well, poppy, first of all, that's quite a train. >> the green train. >> armored train moving. i did a train trip once in north korea many years ago. and it wasn't anywhere near that

luxu luxurious. i could tell you. so what we're seeing here is basically a reformation of an asian block that is an alternative in many ways to the american-led order. and that is china and russia, which of course announced a partnership without limits. there clearly are limits to it. back during the olympics, just prior to the invasion of ukraine. north korea, iran, and of course they're trying to bring in other nations as well. it's also a very big move for kim jong-un, who thought he had something going with president trump a few years ago in their three meetings. president trump promised that that would result in north korea disarming. in fact, he never got back a single missile or a single nuclear weapon. and the north korean arsenal has increased. but now suddenly kim's in the

position where someone needs him. and that's vladimir putin, who is desperate for arms. the chinese will not provide them. and this is his moment to get them. and what it means is the pressure is off from russia. and to some degree from china on the north. >> david f you look at this as a developing block and certainly the momentum has been headed in that direction. it's not equal parts in terms of power sharing to some degree. who is the junior partner? who is the -- everybody assumes it would be north korea and things are inverted base d on this meeting alone. >> they are inverted in some ways because suddenly the russians need something from north korea. when was the last time you can remember, phil, that anybody needed anything from north korea, other than succession of threats? so, it's a pretty remarkable moment. now, a couple of big questions. first of all, can the north

koreans provide what the russians want in the quantities that they need? second, is there anything that the united states can do or other allies to stop them? i mean, we could, i guess, try more sanctions. but at this point, since we've been sanctioning north korea since the 1950s, we're pretty well out of options. we could try to intercept some of this at sea, to the degree that it runs -- you can see from the train ride, there are land ways to deliver weapons to russia. but that would probably be highly risky. and, of course, south korea is providing artillery to ukraine indirectly but 650,000 rounds, we believe, of artillery that has been useful to ukraine. so i'm sure the russians think this is just fair play. >> david sanger, thank you so much. we ran out of time. but everyone should read your --

this is an amazing front page piece. it's amazing. >> china uses a.i. to spread lies about the u.s. it's incredible. >> david sanger, thanks, buddy. >> great. good to see you. vladimir putin says the prosecution of donald trump is all political. that's something we have also been hearing from donald trump. now the former president is asking the federal judge overseeing his 2020 election subversion case to recuse herself according to a filing yesterday judge alleges judge tonya chutkan taint these proceedings. the people who exhorted you and encouraged you and rallied you to go and take action and to fight have not been charged. the issue of who has or has not been charged is not before me. i don't have any influence on that. i have my opinions. but they are not relevant. that's what she told a capitol riot defendant during a sentencing hearing back in 2021. >> so trump's lawyers argue statements like those and others mean she should not be able to

hear this case against trump. they add only if this is administered by a judge who appears entirely impartial could the public accept it as justice. i know recusals that happen like this. it's a blind loyalty to one person who by the way remains free to this day, talking about you would think trump. what do you think? >> so, this is an extreme long shot legally speaking. you can see where donald trump is coming from. it's not an outrageous motion when you see statements that judge chutkan has said. she has said things that seem to pretty clearly suggest that she believed years ago donald trump should have been charged, should have been held accountable. she was essentially making the point at the sentencings that, yes, you're being prosecutely for storming the capitol but

more responsible people are not. the problem, however, with donald trump's argument legally s that, a, it's really hard to get a judge to recuse himself or herself. and, b, you can't base a recusal motion on something a judge said during a court proceeding. basically because that's a judge's job. they have to take all the evidence in front of them, make decisions, make determinations somethings about the relative culpability of other people. the supreme court has basically said f you're trying to recuse a judge, you have to do it base on something outside of what she said in the scope of an actual case in court. >> judge chutkan asked the justice department to respond. is that normal in this case? how is this supposed to work? >> yeah, typically if there's a recusal motion you want to hear what the other side has to say. i'm fairly certain doj will object to this and say you should stay on the case. you don't have the kind of bias or prejudice that needs to require your recusal. >> so, also you've got different case here. trump is asking the judge

overseeing the georgia election subversion case to dismiss the charges. we were texting. elie, on what grounds? >> on all of the grounds. this is what happens in any multidefendant case. they all want to piggy back off each other. nothing wrong with that. but basically any one defendant wants to make sure if any of the other defendants succeeds on any particular point you get a part of that benefit as well. you'll see them all start filing motions saying i join in everyone else's motions. the specific grounds here that rudy giuliani has brought that donald trump is joining in is basically attacking the indictment. what they say is there's not a crime here. yes, it's labeled rico, but it's really just a conglomeration of actions that maybe some find offensive. but that are not crimes in and of themselves. ultimately that's a question for the jury. i don't think that will lead to a pretrial dismissal. >> i don't think the rico statue in georgia says they have to be crime. they have to contribute to an overall conspiracy. >> there has to be a criminal object. there's 161 acts laid out in

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♪ the house is back in session today. speaker kevin mccarthy is confronting a twin set of challenges, avoiding a government shutdown at the end of the month and addressing growing calls from his party to impeach president biden. now the date to watch, that would be september 30th, less than three weeks from now mccarthy has to cut a deal with democrats who control the senate and the white house to avoid that shutdown but he is also facing new threats to his leadership by some members in his caucus. nancy mace is a member of the house oversight committee is joining us now. it's that committee i want to start with. there's been reporting both from punch bowl news and our colleagues at cnn that speaker mccarthy is planning to tell the conference later this week that he wants to move forward with an impeachment inquiry or plans to.

do you believe that there are the votes to move forward on impeachment inquiry if he decides to go that route? >> more than likely. the inquiry, my understanding gets us or will assist us in getting joe biden's bank records. there's no doubt based on the evidence i have seen whether the stars reports or evidence from the fbi, whistleblowers, et cetera, there's no way any of this happens without joe biden. if that is a tool in the tool box we can use to get more evidence for the american people, then i'm going to support it. the problem is you do the inquiry, how do you avoid doing an actual impeachment. and that puts a lot of seats up at risk particularly for republicans who won biden districts. that is the web that we will weave if we move forward on it. >> i think it's a great question, though. part of the reason you don't go down this route is inevitably you don't have a choice. you're going to end up going towards -- >> i believe the evidence says that we need to do that. i do agree. >> on the evidence, you made the point with my colleague kaitlan col collins, you have not been able to get access to president

biden's bank records. you're on the house oversight committee, the house oversight democrats put out their own summary of where they think things stands. none of the bank records show any payments to president biden. none of the sars alleges or suggests any misconduct by president biden nor do they show any involvement by president biden and hunter biden's financial or business relationships. your response to that. >> yeah. i think there's corroborating evidence, emails, hunter biden is paying half his money went to his father. the bank records will show that. joe biden every time asked by reporters about this, he lied about it. if you've done nothing wrong, why lie about it. the bank records are very important. foreign bank records. fbi documents said that joe biden and hunter biden were bribed. the bank records will show whether that was true or false. that's why it's so important. regardless, the american people deserve the truth.

did their president sell out their country to communist china or to russia or romania or ukraine. we saw joe biden literally brag on tv, in speeches, about bribing the bribery in ukraine going on. and getting -- >> i want to talk about some foreign policy stuff particularly some bipartisan you're doing. in terms of the prosecutor, the time line on that as well as the western communities alliance in backing of that decision, and some of the testimony your committee has received related to shokin one of hunter biden's associates, they had under their control. it doesn't line up with the idea that this was some move that was made -- >> well, the bank records can help determine that. if we prove that bribery did happen, $10 million was exchanged to hunter biden and joe biden the bank records would prove that out. i don't know why there's resistance to showing the money. to me that's confusing and why

would joe biden feel the need to lie about it if he was not involved. he lied about china. he lied about being on phone calls. he lied about being involved in his son's business or having any knowledge. hunter biden was on all these airplane flights with his father going to see business executives. joe biden't doesn't know anything. that's a lie. i think the bank records will prove out who is telling the truth. the whistleblowers or joe biden. >> the whistleblowers no allege anything directly connected to president biden. >> well no. but we have more witnesses, more whistleblowers that are going to be coming forward. i want the brook keeper. i want to subpoena hunter biden. i want to see joe biden's bank records to figure out who is telling the truth is. somebody is lying. >> the impeachment inquiry will give you more tools so that's why you support moving forward. >> right. my understanding is that we would get access to joe biden's bank records, easier access to them to prove it out. so to see who is telling the truth w. one of the big questions and then we'll get to your bipartisan work on foreign policy, is this in exchange for support from you and others

related to a continuing resolution. you're a fiscal hawk. >> identify never voted for continuing resolution. i never voted to raise your taxes. i won't be doing it now. i think impeachment inquiry is totally separate from the out of control spending. if you get impeachment inquiry, willing to add to our nation's debt, i'm a hard pass on that. two things very much separate. and i hope that every democrat, every republican, every independent watching this morning will call their member of the congress this week and tell congress to get it together. both sides, both republicans and democrats have put us in this place where we have extraordinarily high inflation, where we're going to add $18.8 trillion to the debt in the next ten years. every american was lied to over the debt ceiling deal. i hope that everyone regard lis of political affiliation will call their member of congress this week and tell them to stop it to cut spending so that we can balance a budget over the next 20 years, however long it takes and be more responsible with your tax dollars. >> 18 days to figure that out in

some way shape or form. i want to ask you before i let you go. you are working on a bipartisan basis. attempting to kind of press the administration to deny visas for iranian's president, probably his top officials as well. walk me through that. >> yes. first of all, i want to commend congressman for reaching across the aisle with us to work on this foreign policy matter. last year the u.s. government banned the world's best tennis player from coming and playing in the u.s. open because he was not vaccinated. and yet next week, we're going to allow an iranian delegation into the united states. a delegation and a president who defend mass murders of political dissidents both in '88 under the death commissions and most recently last year in 2022. i can't think of a worse precedent to set. ban a tennis player for being unvaccinated let murderous dictators into the country. i don't know what message the administration is trying to stoend the american people. i know it's the wrong message. >> it's bipartisan. it's complicated when it comes to the united nations, but we

will keep your eyes and ears posted to see if the administration says anything. congressman nancy mace, south carolina republican. thank you for your time. >> thank you, phil. we're getting brand new details about this on going manhunt this morning in pennsylvania. police now say the escaped murderer is armed after reports of a violent confrontation with a homeowner overnight. police are about to hold a news conference about an hour from now, two hours from now. we'll bring that to you live. plus, advisers set to meet today on new covid shot that get tails and tongues wagging. ♪ fastsigns.s. make your statement.

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and to see bridget's before and after photos. ♪ news this morning. cdc advisors are going to vote on recom ons for the new kmid shots. they have been updated to update the circulating variants. it was deemed safe yesterday. the vaccines could become available this week as respiratory virus season is picking up. dr. gupta joins us now. tell us about it and do we need it? >> first of all, we hear from the fda.

we will see what the cdc says in terms of who the recommended recipients are. we are pretty certain it's going to be people over the age of 65, weakened immune systems, people with pre-existing conditions that put them at higher risk. we have heard this before. if you add up those people in the country, all those various things, it's at least 70% of the country that is probably going to be recommended that they get the shot. we will hear if the cdc later. this is -- it's a new shot. if you have sort of listened closely, you will hear they are not using the term booster as much. we are getting a sense this is likely to become a yearly shot. something that's likely to come out around the same time as a flu shot. flu shots and covid shots around the same time, we will see. part of the reason they wanted to get this out there is because, while the numbers are still low, thankfully, they will go up. they always go up as the weather

is cooler and drier. hospitalizations around the country now, we have been showing you this map for a few weeks, and it's getting a little bit more yellow. a few places of red as well. these are hospitalizations. they have gone up about 9% the last week. another thing that they are tracing is how much covid is out there. they look in wastewater to sort of figure that out. if you follow that trend line the last several months, it's gone up significantly. that's sort of a early warning system in terms of how much covid is out there. we'll see. but later today, again, the official recommendations. my guess is it will be a broad swath of people that are going to be recommended to get this. if you have had covid recently, if you have had a shot recently in the last four months, you probably can hold off on that, this new shot, because you have existing immunity. for others, we will get the recommendations later today. >> on a separate topic, the irony was not lost to me, news

apps, emails, social media, and then got to your segment and i realized, your podcast, which is exploring the human brain, episode 1 about the so-called distracted brain. a little bit of a deep moment for me in that moment. can you explain that for people? what is -- how distracted are our brains? >> could i say this podcast is so fun. i get to collide my worlds of journalism and the brain, which i, obviously, love. but i wanted to take on what i call the attentive brain, how to make a more attentive brian. i was struck by the data from professor mark who measures attention spans. how have our attention spans changed over the last several years? and it's extraordinary. if you go back 2012 timeframe or so, it was about two and a half minutes. sorry, 2003 timeframe, two and a half minutes was our average

attention spin. 2012, 75 seconds, and now 47 seconds. think about that. that's how much time we will spend paying attention to something nowadays, and the numbers have been gradually going down. so what i wanted to focus on what is happening and what can we do about it. >> do we know what it does, quickly, sanjay, to your brain? >> well, it's interesting because we are -- we are given all sorts of different inputs changing how fast we have to toggle back and forth in our brain. there is this idea that the types of content that we are given is shortening as well. so we used to get longer ads, longer shot sequences. that's changing. bottom line, according to the professor, when you actually get to focus on something for a period of time, you not only get into that focused attention, but there is actually a sense of joy that comes with that that many

of us are missing because we don't get that sustained attention anymore. >> hear that, phil? focus. >> when i got to sanjay's part, i was focused. we got at least 54 seconds this morning. >> there you. thank you, sanjay. can't wait to listen to it. >> appreciate it t. find out more about the distracted brain, how to turn it into an attentive one, the chasing life podcast wherever you get your podcasts. the manhunt in pennsylvania, police say the escaped murrer is armed. reports of a violent confrontation with a homeowner. police will give an update at 9:30 this morning. we will l bring you that live. stay w with us.

top of the hour. good morning. so glad you are with us on this tuesday. let's start with five thins to know for tuesday, september 12. police say the escaped murderer still on the run in pennsylvania now armed and we're now hearing he may have stolen gun during