this is cnn breaking news. >> the major breaking news out of pennsylvania this morning, the 14-day manhunt for an escaped, convicted murderer who had a life sentence ends with the killer now captured. officials now saying their might mare and the community's

nightmare is over. just moments ago danelo cavalcante was seen here exiting the police van, and we are told he will go back behind bars for the rest of his life for first-degree murder, but first he must be processed and officials wrapped the news conference with stunning new details on how cavalcante was taken into custody. here is some of what we learned. >> just after midnight a burglar alarm went off at a residence that was inside the perimeter where they were searching. they went to that house, but they did not find anything there. around 1:00 a.m. in that area a dea aircraft picked up a thermal heat signal. they saw some kind of heat s signature on the ground so they sent teams on the ground to surround that area. however, a thunderstorm moves in and the plane has to leave so what they tried to do is they tried to keep the tactical

forces on the ground surrounding that area trying to keep whatever was inside just after 8:00 a.m. the teams close in on where that heat source was. it's danelo cavalcante, right? they see him there. lieutenant colonel george bivens details what happened next. >> shortly after 8:00 a.m., tactical teams converged on the area where the heat source was. they were able to move in very quietly. they had the element of surprise. cavalcante did not realize he was surrounded until that had occurred. that did not stop him from trying to escape. he began to crawl through ethic unde thick underbrush taking his rifle with him as he did. one of the customs and border patrol team, bortac, had a dog with them. they released the dog. some of our psp members were

there, had him surrounded. the dog subdued mihm and team members from both of those teams immediately moved in. he continued to resist, but was forcibly taken into custody. >> today is a great day here in chester county. our nightmare is finally over and the good guys won. we owe a debt of gratitude to all of the first responders for their tireless and dedicated efforts in bringing this fugitive to justice. they worked around the clock, and we are deeply grateful to all of them. our community can finally regain its normalcy and breathe a collective sigh of relief. >> that was the news conference a little more than an hour ago it began at this point. cnn's brian todd was there pushing for more and more information. brian, it was great to have you in there. what are you learning now? >> well, john and sara, you played out some of the details

and you played some of the details from the news conference and a little bit of additional detail we were able to pick up. we talked about how the teams moved in on him after 8:00 a.m. in the tall grass of this field in the far eastern edge of the perimeter. we should note that the spot where they located him was inside the perimeter, the search perimeter, but on the eastern edge of it along a field of tall grass there and when they moved in, they said that cavalcante was not aware of their presence and quickly became aware of their presence and started crawling and that's when they released the k-9. it was either a german shepard or belgian malinois that basically pursued him as he was crawling and bivens and while cavalcante was trying to crawl away from the tactical teams that the rifle was within his reach the entire time. the rifle was within his reach when the dog was on top of him

subduing him. it was a close call either way. he was resisting the dog when the dog was on top of him. thankfully neither the dog or members of the opinion ole nor members of the public were injured and i caught up with lieutenant colonel bivens again and i asked him more of the condition of cavalcante just in the moments right after they took him into custody. >> defiant and still resisting arrest. >> okay. how -- what was his physical condition? had he been dehydrated? depleted or anything like that? >> he looked as though he had been put through an awful lot. he looked tired. certainly clothing looked weathered from being out there, wet, that kind of thing, like someone who had been out in the woods for an extended period of time and stressed which was what we were trying to do the whole time all along, keep him stressed, keep him moving and off his game so he couldn't

escape and would ultimately make mistakes that would allow us to capture him. >> and there were some other details that we learned urg did the news conference and after ward that cavalcante had certain patterns in his movements. we did know that he tended to move more at night unless he was pushed during the day which colonel bivens said he did on occasion do, and his pattern was to move along creekbeds and wood lines and areas that were easier to travers and the lines between wooded areas and fields and the wood lines, gas lines and power lines was where he tended to move along. they detected him with a dea aircraft, that heated signature shortly after 1:00 a.m. and then the storm moved in and the lightning moved in and they had to take the aircraft out of the sky and they were able to send tactical teams where the heat signature was detected and that's when they moved in on him

shortly after 8:00 a.m., guys. >> it is remarkable the amount of officers, up to 500, from different places, different agencies and the amount of equipment because that thermal equipment actually turned out to be really, really important, but it came down to a k-9. >> it came down to a dog to initially make first contact and to hold him until officers can get there. >> joining me now is shannon evans, she lives in the area where cavalcante was captured. can you first tell us, can you tell us, you were on your way to what wawa and grab yourself a cup of coffee and what did you see in your area as you were leaving? >> hi. so law enforcement has had a heavy presence right at my property. for the last two days there have

been state troopers. it was more heavily concentrated on the way back. i believe he was caught while i was out, and so that's pretty much what i saw. i believe the helicopters had just subsided at this point and they're starting to clear out now. >> how has it altered your life in the last 48 hours? what did it change in the way you moved about? >> so my son actually, he's not at the house. he is with family, and i ended up working from home yesterday and basically have just been looking out my windows and my backyard because i am up along

french creek and route 100. so really i felt more safe just staying here rather than going out or leaving the property. so i basically worked from home and kept an eye on the property. >> and your reaction when you heard this morning that this was over? >> i'm in shock. i'm in shock that -- because i'm right on the perimeter, but i am in shock that he was this close. i'm very relieved and very

relieved to get back to a normal -- the normal grind that i don't look forward to. i'm very much looking forward to it, but i felt very safe. the law enforcement were -- they were fantastic, so -- >> we're happy. we're happy you can get back to the normal grind. that will be welcome. the normal grind without a convicted escaped killer in your neighborhood. katherine, thank you so much for being with us this morning. >> let's bring in chief ramsey and charles miller. chief ramsey, you are cnn senior law enforcement analyst and the former philadelphia police commissioner. can i talk to you about the work of police and all of its different agencies? there has to be some serious coordination going on here. what did you make of what you

heard in the press conference as to how cavalcante was finally brought in? >> well, they finally caught a break. i mean, you know, things have been going against him for a period of time, but they caught a break when they were able to pick up the heat signature from the dea surveillance plane. unfortunately, we had severe storms last night and so the aerial search had to be called off, but at least it pinpointed an area for them and as soon as they were able to tighten it and get in there they were able to catch him off guard. of course, using the k-9 which is always an option, less lethal as opposed to lethal although they were prepared to do the other if it had come to that, but they were able to bring him into custody with no one getting hurt. the biggest fear i had was especially after finding out he was armed, he forced his way into a home and have hostages,

carjack an individual, otherwise harm a person that was really my biggest concern once i knew he was armed. none of that happened, so thank god it didn't. >> they got him. the only injury, a bite wound to his scalp. john miller, brian todd enforced something that we heard a limited amount on that cavalcante had his 22 -- want his, the 22-caliber rifle that was always within reach in those moments. that's got to change things or at least add a level of concern for the officers there. >> extremely, and i think the sign of restraint as chief ramsey middle. they know they have a suspect. they know he's a murderer. they know he has a weapon and he's desperate to get away and they played it out in a way that they were able to take him in relatively unharmed and certainly, you know, no gun fire was exchanged either way.

the crawling is interesting. crawling to where? what was the game plan? did he think the grass was high enough so he could change location and get enough distance to get up and run, but as you point out, he never let go of that weapon. >> he never had a chance to pull the trigger which is something lieutenant colonel bivens said, as well. >> they wanted to make sure they separated him from the weapon using the k-9, essentially. >> and the border patrol dog is a key factor because that dog will latch on to an arm and a leg and it will keep him busy and not focused on that weapon which gives them a chance to move in and you know, separate him from that weapon. >> chief charles ramsey and to you, john. i'll start with you, chief. there was something that caught my ear and it doesn't directly have to do with cavalcante, but the officer said, the lieutenant said that this is nine years to the day yesterday of the

incident with eric fein who shot and killed a young patrol officer nine years ago. when you consider how many times these folks have been through these kinds of chases, what stands out to you about this one? >> well, what stands out is the fact that they were able to just continue to do it. they're very good at what they do. i've had the opportunity to work with the pennsylvania state police during my time in philadelphia and very professional organization, and you know, they are just top notch. the other thing that i think is important is that when all these agencies have to come together, they're able to seamlessly come together. that's not an easy thing to do. i mean, a ground search like they had. i mean, think about the logistics involved. the communications necessary in order to be effective and to be able to search a given area and

then move to another area and have everyone well coordinated and these are all different agencies and they're able to do it and they do it time and time again. the fact that it was a year to the date from the other search and the unfortunate tragedy and the shooting of the trooper. that's always in the back of the mind of individuals and of course, this all happened right around september 11th, so there are a lot of chips going on. they had one focus and one focus only and that was to catch this guy and that's what they were focused on. >> and they did just after 8:00 a.m. this morning. something sara said rang really, really well. >> thank you, john. >> no problem. everything from the high-tech thermal imaging of the dea to a dog, you know, the oldest kind of police work there was used here, just shows the range of the tools. >> well, they brought everything to bear here, and you know, a lot of it was there on the first day. some of it came along later, but you know, if you think of it's

the state police. it's their caper and the unified command. they are the agency running the show. everybody else is there in support. that's -- as chief ramsey pointed out, that's a lot of people putting egos on the side, but that includes the key is the u.s. marshals, catching fugitives is their bread and butter and when you see the eastern district of pennsylvania and the regional fugitive task force, it's a mouthful and that's rob clark and his people and they're coming off the burnham hunt. they're coming off the fein hunt from years ago and the two escapees from the philadelphia jail, so this is their core mission. t they and the state police were the core of this, but fbi comes along. they're adding their s.w.a.t. teams and they're bringing their databases and they're running technology things, their

operational technology division at quantico can send up any kind of gear or tool that they need. you've got the dea which is bringing in what? not only their s.w.a.t. teams, but their surveillance resources and the cessna caravan that has the big belly that carries hundreds of pounds of cameras and sensors and flourish, forward-looking infra-red sig w nals that can stay airborne for hours as opposed to what a helicopter can do high, without making a lot of sound and that surveillance proved critical, but other agencies brought their aircraft. so border patrol didn't just bring in the local s.w.a.t. team. they brought in their key s.w.a.t. team, their elite s.w.a.t. team bortac which is used to doing what? going into desolate areas along the border and tracking people. so this was an amalgam of so much talent, so much technology,

so much experience, and it was all brought to bear to try and see if this could not become the eric rudolph case where it took five years or even the frein case where it took 48 days. >> it took 48 days and an officer was killed in that particular case. i want to mention a couple of things that sort of stand out to me. we have seen people be killed for much less. this man was armed. he had stolen and he was a convicted killer who was going to prison for life. so a huge reason for him to resist and potentially do other things. he was captured, no major incident. >> by the way, for context, eric frein who didn't kill a state trooper as part of the man hunts. >> right. >> he set up in the woods and assassinated a state trooper and wounded another with a high-powered weapon from a concealed position in the woods and then went on the run for 48

days was also captured unharmed, intact and without the use of force by the very agency whose trooper he killed. so restraint, among these professionals is not an anomaly. >> it is not an anomaly, but we have seen different things and actually in philadelphia itself, recently. so the other thing that strikes me is, none of this would have been necessary had this man not been able to escape from the jail and now there is a huge investigation going on as to how he was able to get out. we have seen the pictures. we are showing them right now. that is cavalcante in the very beginning of all of this sort of standing back there and then suddenly crab crawling up a wall to get himself out of the jail there in chest are county and the district attorney was at the press conference and we know why because she had to be very concerned and if not -- excuse the word, but pissed, that she

put this man behind bars who had killed and murdered his girlfriend and was on the run and you could tell that she was relieved, happy that he is back in custody and potentially with more charges coming. >> and work to be done there. they have to do a top to bottom assessment of that county jail in terms of accountability, but also in terms of what other tier 1 prisoners from violent crimes are in there and is it still at risk for escape? >> again, as the d.a. said, the nightmare is over. danelo cavalcante in custody. extraordinary new details and we will follow it live throughout the morning. john miller, thank you. chief charles ramsey, thank you so much. house republicans are meeting this morning as house speaker kevin mccarthy has launched this impeachment inquiry into president biden without a house vote on launching the inquiry. new reaction from capitol hill on how former president trump may have been involved with this.

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into every sip and sign. ♪ fastsigns. make your statement. today house speaker kevin mccarthy met with a divided caucus in a closed-door meeting just a day after announcing that he ordered an impeachment inquiry into president biden without holding a floor vote. mccarthy told members the probe would be, quote, expeditious, but gave no clear timeline. when cnn's manu raju asked why he changed his mind about holding a vote, this is what he

said. >> why did you change? >> let me answer your question. i answered it every single day. no nancy pelosi changed the precedent of this house. it doesn't preclude -- nancy pelosi changed the precedent of this house on september 24th. it was withheld and good enough for every democrat here, it was good enough for the judge, why would it have to be different today? >> manu raju is joining us from capitol hill. manu, that back and forth is a new reason i hadn't heard before. can you tell us what else mccarthy had to say about all of this? >> yeah. he did defend his handling of all this and tried to pin the blame on nancy clopelosi to expn why he changed his position from just 12 days ago. he told breitbart news that he would hold a floor vote and open up an impeachment inquiry so it

wouldn't be done by a single declaration by one person and that was different from what happened yesterday when the speaker of the house, and being in kartmccarthy didn't have eno votes so he decided to move forward, but did not provide any details or timeline as part of this investigation. in talking to a number of members in this conference, many of them are supportive of it. many of them want to see what this investigation actually reveals and some of them plainly acknowledge the politics are not good for their own party particularly if they do move forward and impeach the president. >> it certainly didn't help democrats. i haven't seen anybody do too well after an impeachment process. it didn't do well for us in '98 with president clinton. i don't see it as good politics. i do, though, think there's

enough stuff here that deserves to be looked at. >> i think that we need to be balanced in this approach. i don't think that impeachment ought to be use as a political tool or weapon especially around election year. i think we need to be in a quest for facts. >> i think this impeachment is long overdue. the people have had enough. the border crisis in particular, and the 13 americans that were killed and i think we should have impeached his ass a long time ago. >> so that question is what is next and the house oversight committee, chairman jim comer is leading this investigation. he said there would be a public hearing in september. he also indicated to me that they would try to get more bank records and they would corroborate the key allegations unverified that joe biden tried to act to help hunter biden's overseas business dealings while he was vice president and republicans hope they can verify those allegations and members are still skeptical about all of this and not ready to vote to impeach the president.

>> manu, can you answer? we heard members of congress that his district is angry about the border and withdrawal from afghanistan, but that's not what this is about. and that's not what this impeachment is about at all, correct? >> yeah. it's not even -- yes. it is completely different from what they're looking at here and hunter biden's actions and trying to tie it to joe biden and not border security, but this member here, tony gonzalez of texas saying he's ready to move forward to impeach joe biden and he faces a primary challenge, as well. sara. >> first, they have to have evidence that is hard evidence that we have not seen even with the other investigations. thank you, manu raju. appreciate that. >> there is new information this morning that donald trump has been working the phones, speaking with republican leaders in the house about their impeachment strategy for president biden. cnn kristen holmes joins us with the details on this. what are you learning? >> that's right, john.

not even after that impeachment inquiry was announced, but before as well. representative marjorie taylor greene having dinner with trump at his bedminster resort on monday talking about whether or not there would be an impeachment inquiry and that was something he brought up and we also heard from sources that elise stefanik, the house gop chairwoman talked to trump after it was announced by mccarthy and essentially went over what the republican house strategy would be going into this impeachment inquiry. i talked to a number of trump advisers, and they do acknowledge that while trump has talked to various house members about this and it is not just stefanik and marjorie taylor green, that it is not something that he is obsessed with and hyperfocused on, but they can't push back on the sense that this is something that he has brought up, something that privately and publicly he says would like to see happen and even if he is not pushing directly, by saying something he would like to happen, he is still, if you look at the poll number, the head of

the republican party and there are members of the house who want to do what makes donald trump happy. so that's where you see this disconnect and whether or not he is obsessed with it or he is pushing it and he mentioned it and these house members want to placate him. he is at least in part, at the center of all of this. >> kristen holmes, thank you so much for this new reporting. as always, we appreciate it. keep us posted. >> with us now is former communications director for kamala harris. jamal simmons is now a cnn political commentator and republican strategist joseph pinon. thank you for being with us this morning. i want to go back to whether or not we just heard this new reporting, is it any surprise, and i'll start with you, that donald trump is somehow involved in this idea of going forward with an impeachment? it serves him politically, certainly. >> well, look, i think that impeachment is inherently a political process. i think that certainly the actions of president trump

speaking about it with members of congress, was there certainly an appetite for republicans to see if they could move forward with some type of impeachment procedure. i would mention it again, he is not doing anything untowards and if people are bothered by it, and we should know from the former deputy director michael morel and there were conversations with antony blinken at the time working with joe biden's campaign about what was happening with those accusations and the trump campaign was making about them which led to the 51 members of form are intelligence signing that letter, so i think that yes, it is fair to ask the question, but i think fair play has to be fair play and i don't think it's untoward that members of congress should be coercing with president aboutrump about punish chlt. >> house republicans have not presented any evidence that president biden when he was vice president or president, no evidence that we have seen yet.

>> i would -- i want to give time for our friend here, but i do think, again, if you are looking at the pillars of the biden defense to be president of the united states -- >> that was about hunt er biden. he didn't think his son did not get money from china. >> he specifically said his son did nothing wrong in ukraine. he specifically said the only person that got money on that stage was a man named donald j. trump. if you look at what transpired now and e-mail correspondences where hunter biden is cc'ed and there is no reason for us to be sitting here asking questions about the money that hunter biden has admitted under oath that he did receive from china. >> hunter biden can't be impeached. i just want to bring -- >> let's get to reality. i want to bring into the conversation and i want to bring people up to speed on what we have seen to this point here.

the politics of this. jamal, i ask you as a democrat who has been tangentially involved in seeing the impeachments play out, what were the risks for the republicans here? why are there republicans in these forward districts that are nervous? >> it is very risky and this is an inquiry in search of high crimes and misdemeanor. there's no case here. there are no tapes of the watergate break-in and no dress and no dossier from the russians and none of this happened like the last time where people had some grain of fact. they wanted to go after him and pull on to see what was there. what do we know? what we know is the president's son, hunter last name biden told people his father was the vice president when he went out pitching business. you guys have been on the inside and have gotten pitches from pr people who are trying to get stories done. sometimes there's too much english on the ball and maybe that's what happened with hunter? is it inappropriate? probably. is it impeachable?

probably not. when he called his friends and they said hello. those are the bombshells. they know the bad decisions that addicted people make. the president of the united states is standing by his son who has admitted to having an addition problem. the republicans are going after an addition problem in a family at their own peril and they're in jeopardy of losing republicans all over the country if they do it. >> there is a lot to unpack there. first and foremost, i would urge republicans to proceed with caution. i would go back to january 6th of 2020 where the headline was trump acquitted. "usa today," trump acquitted. "new york herald," not being able to pay the actual debt on your cars and not able to deal with the fact that we have $5.5 million missing from savings and if that is the tale of the tape for republicans we

tray to make sure that we take back the house and take back the senate and it is arguable that all you have done here is shrink the time that you have to make the case about what is happening with huntered bien and does it impugn the integrity of the office of the president and if you can't say kofrn cretely that there are high crimes and misdemeanors and think nothing to see here when in reality, to your point we're not talking about addiction. hunter biden's problems is lying to get a gun, and in many ways is the concern to the american people is the fact that if you're looking at the tale of the tape, it's not just someone getting facetime with the white house. it is the fact that there are e-mails that say that they required that facetime as the good faith effort to make sure money can release from foreign nations that the president told us that money was made. that we have white house logs saying those meetings occurred and we have cc'ed messages that

he was ccing his son when he waint working for the white house and he did no business with his son. which means there is no reason to be cc'ed on matters that are official business. >> you can laugh. >> you guys have been up to this since 2018 trying to figure out the connection between them. the connection is not there. if the connection was there this would be in the items that we're talking about in order to get the impeachment inquiry going and you wouldn't have so many republicans from signing on? why is someone like mitt romney not signing onto it because there's nothing there. >> they're not signing on because as many republicans say want to make sure that if you're going to allege high crimes and misdemeanors you have to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. >> but they have been saying this. comer, they have been coming out and making these accusations and saying they'll find the evidence. i do want to ask you why you think that mccarthy did not let this go to a vote?

did he think he wasn't going to get a vote to get the inquiry or why didn't he get it when 12 days ago say he's going to go to a vote. >> mccarthy is smart enough to make sure that his members will not -- whistle blower after whistle-blower have come together after the president and somehow we think that the whistle-blower is speaking about president biden somehow have lost their mind. so i think if we get back to the issues, yes. we should follow the facts wherever they leave and with impeachment, they have curtailed the timeframe that they have discovered those facts and finding where where it would be if the money trail does exist and he does provide an opportunity for individuals to stand here and say, where's the gun? >> the inquiry is happening. into what? we'll find out, i suppose. >> jamal, thank you both. >> all right. kim jong-un, vladimir putin met and talked for hours this

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this morning emergency crews continue to work through the rubble of the devastating

earthquake in morocco. the death toll has already passed 2900 with 5500 hurt. the death toll will almost certainly rise. our sam kyly is on the ground there and reports that aid efforts are under way. >> john, i'm in a town in the early foothills of the atlas mountains, and it's a town that was devastated by this argue quake. this is the scene here on this street, but it could be almost any street in this town. whole buildings collapsed into the street and the moroccans as ever, showing incredible signs of resilience, here in a building threatened with collapse itself someone has opened shop already trying to get life back to normal and that has been something that of course, the moroccans have had to do because even though there's 2,900 people dead so far, some 5,000 injured, life has to go on, but for many, this is what life looks like now,

john. whole communities have been utterly laid to waste and this is now what they call home. tents donated by the government, mostly living on food and water, denoted so far by private citizens. as the government continues to try to reach up into those high atlas mountains, and those far-flung villages that have been completely flattened by this earthquake. most of them or many of them accessible only by helicopter and that means that they've had to air drop supplies to isolated villages and these are villages that were accessible only by foot and a lot of the tracks have been destroyed by the argue quake. the moroccan government has received criticism that they are not accepting more foreign aid and they're insisting that they're getting more aid trying to target exactly where it

should go because they know this in the long term this humanitarian emergency will shift into something much more expensive and long term and that is how do you rebuild the homes for many, many, tens of thousands of people, john? >> it would be a huge effort. our thanks to sam kylie on the ground there. >> so hard to watch that. >> another place that's difficult to watch what's happening overnight. ukraine launching a missile attack on a repair base for russian war ships in crimea. we will speak to david petraeus who just returned from a trip to ukraine about the progress on the front lines. that's ahead. our low mileage is. you think we should... hold... hoooold!!! hooold! now!!!! i'i'm on it. i'm, on itit. already sold to carvana. go to carvana anand track your car's value today. - it's payback time. all these years you've worked hard, you fixed it, you looked after it. maybe, is time for your home to start taking care of you.

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kim jong-un pledged his country's full support to russia during the more than five hours he spent talking and negotiating with vladimir putin. a summit the rest had feared will lead to a fresh supply of weapons for russia in its war on ukraine. putin welcomed kim to a space launch site in the region where kim got a tour of russia's space center and rocket complex. now kim is headed to another city in russia's far east, where he's scheduled to visit factories where they make military equipment. watch a showcase of the fleet and visit two educational institutes. the visit comes as north korea launched two short range ballistic missiles off the eastern coast of the korean peninsula. this morning just hours before that summit took place. with us now is former director and former u.s. come commander general david petraeus. he's recently returned from a trip to ukraine.

i want to first start with what we are hearing, what you learned from your trip. what is the thing that you took away that was the most important, you felt, after v visiting ukraine, sir? >> well, the mood was more sober than when i was there three months ago. before the start of the counter offensive, as we all know, no plan survives contact with themy. and they have been grinding out progress. they have been accumulating. it's been impressive, but it's slow. it's tough, it's costly. the russian defense is more formidable than any anticipated, but they have gotten through the first line of defense in the south. they have taken a town in their expand ing the breach. but again, at a pace of 500 to 1,000 meters a day. so that's the reality. what's interesting, though, is

that because this is not as dependent on armored vehicles, as was the original expectation, they are going to fight all through the winter. people aren't slowed by the onset of winter rains and the mud anywhere near as much as armored track vehicles are. so the determination, the commitment, the national resolve is still very, very strong, but az said, it's a bit more sober of a mood than it was three months ago. beyond that, there's a bit of apprehension about u.s. politics, about whether congress can be as forthcoming as they would like it to be. with the additional assistance, given the dynamics on capitol hill. there is hope also that the u.s. will finally approve the army missile system, which would double the range of the precision munitions provided for

the rockets that they have provided. that perhaps the f-16s will arrive more expeditiously than might be cluster munitions for rockets and artillery. noting that those artillery delivered munitions have proven to be very, very helpful to the offensive. i think the question now is can they start to crack, maybe, to achieve a bit of crumbling of the russian defenses now that they are into the second line of these defenses. there are three belts, essentially. the first being the most formidable. they have certainly penetrated that. and then can they get close enough to the critical line communication that runs from russia along the southeast coast of ukraine so that they can interdict it to and interrupt the flow of support that the russians are providing for the frontlines. >> this war started unprovoked russia went into ukraine on february 24th.

we are a year and a half since that war began. it's grinding on. you alluded to what is happening in the united states. there's fatigue not only here, but in other places. we're hearing some of the leadership in congress, particularly republican leadership, that they are starting to walk away from wanting to fund, give more money, give more munitions toen ukraine. what's your biggest worry there? >> first of all, i would hope everyone would listen to the republican leader in the senate. who has been the most forceful and most eloquent in describing why it is krit dhal we continue to support ukraine. he points out with less than 3% of our defense budget, the military taken down considerably. this is a long time enemy of ours. it is the enemy of nato. ironically, putin has done more for nato than any other

individual he set out to make russia great again and he's made nato great again. we need to continue to lead this effort, noting that the europeans have actually been coming online very substantially. the latest calculation showed that even in the area of security assistance, the europeans pledged more than we have provided. noting that we have provided a very substantial. >> david petraeus, we're going to have to leave it there, but i really appreciate you talking us through this. we appreciate your time. the next show has to take over or i'm going to be in trouble. i appreciate you coming on and explaining that to us. >> thank you all for joining us. kwielt a morning here on "cnn news central." "inside politics" is next. when caroline has a cough she takes robitussin. so, she can have those one on ones again. hey jim! hey! can we talk about your yoga breaks? sure.. get fast, powerful cough relilief with robitussin, and find your vovoice. ♪ robitussin ♪ ah, these bills s are crazy. se

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