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♪ you. >> > . rolling out an aggressive strategy and would go high-dollar donors how president biden and his team -- >> quote, candid exchange of views, that is how russian president putin is describing his five-hour long meeting with kim jong-un, how the u.s. is responding amid fears of an arms deal between the two nations. plus thermal heat technology and a police dog. how searchers in pennsylvania found an escaped murderer who evaded them for two weeks. we're following these developing stories and many more all coming in right here to "cnn news central."
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right now we are tracking a president who is facing an impeachment threat from house republicans and a house speaker who may have to decide between keeping the government funded or keeping his gavel. >> lots of political implications here on the white house side president biden's just in the last hour. >> he didn't even put up for a vote as you all know because he knows that even his own members weren't going to support this. so, you know, that's why we call it baseless. that's why i just called it baseless because they have said themselves that there is no evidence. that it does not -- the evidence does not exist and this is a political stunt. >> lost in the scrum. the speaker mccarthy couldn't juggle the numbers of we could be hemmed for a government
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shutdown on october 1st. first, let's start talking about biden trying to keep the focus on policy, of course chris kristen, his fingerprints are over this. >> he had dinner with margaret taylor green, a representative he's very close with, somebody they talked about that impeachment with during that time. lee stefanowik, a number of my sources say that while trump has talked about this, while he has encouraged this, this really isn't the top of list of his things had a he.obsesses over, mostly that is his impending legal issues that he has but it is something he is watching carefully and watching who has his back when it comes to this impeessments. the other thing is, even though it is clear he is going to be
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somewhat at the center of this because he is at the center of the republican party. when i talked to one member, they told me the other day, two days ago, it doesn't matter whether trump is encouraging or twisting somebody's arm, what matters is if trump wants something done they know what he wants done and they are going to >> the white house of course wants to keep focus, the focus on policy here, the trouble is polling doesn't show great public support for biden's policies so far. so how do they plan to navigate this? >> reporter: certainly they think that all they need is time for the messaging to sink in, that's why president biden tomorrow is set to deliver yet another speech on his economic programs to try to draw contrast between what he has passed and what republicans' platform is and just moments ago at a white house press briefing they had the top white house economist talking about inflation and demands from auto workers and a
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top national security official talking about the meeting between kim jong-un and vladimir putin, but white house press secretary karine jean-pierre was also asked repeatedly about the impeachment inquiry which they continue to cause baseless and illegitimate. i asked will the white house be complying with any asking for information that are issued to bolster the argument that there is no evidence. >> you've suggest that had there is no evidence to back up the republicans' evidence here. >> which is true. i'm not suggesting it. that is a fact. >> if they are seeking information -- >> that is something that the white house counsel is going to deal with. it's not a suggestion, its an actual fact. when you have republicans saying that there is no evidence it doesn't exist, they have said that. i mean, again, they couldn't put it up for a vote because they didn't have the vote. it's not a suggestion, it's actually the fact. that's their own words that i'm
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repeating back. >> reporter: so declining to say that the white house would provide information to back up their argument thus far and pointing to the to field any of those inquiries. meanwhile, the biden campaign is using this campaign to try to draw up small dollar donations which so far have been lagging in this e-mail cycle. an e-mail sent out to biden's >> whatever you can afford to fight back against kevin mccarthy and marjorie taylor greene's vicious lies and baseless attacks on the president. that effort coming as the biden administration is set to corral high-dollar donors in chicago trying to reenergize them ahead of an end of quarter fundraising deadline as the campaign zeros in its messaging on this battle between biden and his predecessor. >> david, there have been --
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there's been a lot of investigating, you know, on the legal front, a lot of this we are talking about is political. legally there's been investigating, hunter biden does not come out of this smelling like a rose. hunter. the proximity of that to then vice president biden that's not great but there is not this link that you have some republicans really trying to draw here the question is going to be politically does this stick and cause problems for joe biden. >> right. i mean, the investigation, the legal investigation is actually ongoing with the special counsel into hunter biden, but even at that we've had no reports out of that investigation that there's some looking at potential wrongdoing of president joe biden, you are right to note that and there hasn't been that direct link yet made from house republicans even in their more politically tainted investigations. but the white house has a big perception problem. i mean, the work of the house republicans is having some impact. we see in our polling that a majority of americans believe that president biden has acted
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inappropriately in this current investigation and as it relates to his relations to the business relation of hunter biden back when he was vice president we saw nearly six in ten americans in our poll believe that and that includes a majority of independents. there's clear perception work and that is why you are seeing the white house becoming aggressive out of the gate instantly with this because they want to make sure they're pushing back and changing that perception. >> we want to take a moment and go to capitol hill because lauren fox is getting the latest from lawmakers there. lauren, even if you hear from republicans on the judiciary committee, people that have been investigating hunter biden potential links to joe biden, congressman ken buck, for example, he says he does not see any specific evidence tying the president to his son's business dealings overseas. >> reporter: and we've been talking about this, but there is a reason why house speaker kevin mccarthy did not bring a vote to the floor of the house of representatives to open this impeachment inquiry despite the
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fact that just 12 days ago he was arguing that impeachment was so serious that an impeachment inquiry was to serious that he would bring this to the floor of the house for a vote. the reality is there were many republicans in his ranks who had concerns about launching this impeachment inquiry in part because there is no direct evidence, but also in part because once you start an inquiry, despite the fact that leadership is arguing this is just an initial step, this isn't a formal impeachment, it is very hard to backtrack, it is very hard to not finish the job, in part because not finishing the job, not holding a vote on impeachment potentially could exonerate the president and you can bet that democrats would campaign on that. that's part of the dynamic here for house speaker kevin mccarthy but his conference is still very divided. here is what a couple of lawmakers said today. >> certainly didn't help democrats. i mean, you know, i haven't seen anybody do too well after an
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impeachment process, didn't do well for us in '98 with president clinton. i don't see it as good politics. i do, though, think there's enough stuff here that it deserves to be looked at. >> i think that we need to be balanced in this approach. i don't think that impeachment ought to be used as a political tool or weapon especially around election year. i think we need to be in a quest for facts. >> i think that this impeachment is long overdue. the people in my district have had enough. the border crisis in particular, the 13 americans that were killed, i think we ought have impeached his ass a long time ago. >> reporter: some of the most kept al republicans in capitol hill are over in the u.s. senate, james comer and jim jordan, they went to the republican senate lunch today to try to lay out their case, give a sense of where their investigation is going in hopes that they could garner more support from republican senators who to this point largely have been skeptical of the fact that there is a lot to do right now in congress, including funding the government.
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their argument is that an impeachment inquiry could be a distraction from doing that work. >> david, devil's advocate. if you go back to mccarthy's run for speaker there was a lot of talk he didn't have the votes. he made it through on the budget plan, he eventually got the votes. is it poblng that he musters the votes to move forward. >> for impeachment? >> yes. >> possibly. he clearly did the votes yesterday to launchen inquiry or he would have put it on the house floor. he doesn't have the votes to avoid a shutdown because they had to actually postpone and reschedule the defense spending bill. they can't even get defense spending alone today so he doesn't have those votes. with time, with arguments if there is more evidence you can see some of these members. we saw this by the way with the democrats four years ago. there were democrats not willing to get on board with the notion of impeaching president trump initially for the zelenskyy phone call but as more developments came out and as the
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investigation began some of them moved. certainly it is possible. i will just say this, kevin mccarthy is doing something that the folks in his conference who are the majority makers from very consequential districts that will determine control, they are the ones that are not eager like you saw the new york congressman here to not do this. that was not the case four years ago. nancy pelosi moved forward once the majority makers, those freshmen democrats from borderline districts got on board with it, that's when she moved forward with it. here kevin mccarthy is being dictated sort of by the base not by his majority makers. >> when you look to it, some very outspoken folks like matt gaetz on the spending part of this because all of this gets related to each other in a complicated way, he's talking about getting rid of entire agencies and this and that, stuff that is never going to make it through congress. i mean, how tricky is this for kevin mccarthy to navigate this when he has members who are demanding things that are quite
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frankly just impossible to deliver? >> to jim's point we saw 15 rounds of tricky back in january. kevin mccarthy is in a very tough spot. there's no doubt about it. and he is making these constant daily choices of how to navigate this conference that threatens to potentially take the gavel away from him, create more chaos for the party and i just think that what you're seeing mccarthy do on a daily basis right now is how can he survive in this position that he has long sought and now been in for the last many months. >> let's go back to the white house with kayla tausche. this is obviously something that is very personal for president biden. mccarthy has brought no new allegations against the president, we should be clear about that. nevertheless, biden being hesitant to speak about his son publicly up until now we haven't seen much of that. do we expect that's something that's going to change,
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especially as he's more called out by republicans for their allegations of wrongdoing heading into 2024? >> reporter: well, the white house is going to have to thread the needle here because president biden's preference up until this point has been to remain above the fray and above what they see as drama on capitol hill and within the republican party and they've tried to draw a distinction between the allegations and the situation ongoing with the president's son hunter and the special counsel's case there and have been very careful anytime that topic has come up to defer to the department of justice and the independent investigation there, but the white house and senior biden aides have suggested that impeachment is a political animal. so they will be treating that differently and they will be much more aggressive when it comes to messaging, if not on the legal front when it comes to impeachment. the problem is the impeachment inquiry is based on, you know, the republicans seeking out of
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information about hunter biden and the attempt to tie the president to hunter biden's business dealings. so you do get a situation where there is a little bit of muddy water there and so how the white house decides it wants to engage doesn't appear clear yet, but they are working on that behind the scenes. >> kristen, one might imagine politically that there is an attempt here to dissolve or underplay trump's own legal troubles by creating legal troubles for biden regardless of the degree of the evidence here. by the way, it's a playbook we've seen before in washington many times before. is there a republican response to that argument? >> i think the republicans are and we have seen this, as you said, time and time before, very good at messaging and donald trump himself is very good at taking control of a narrative. i will tell you when i talk to voters even if they do not necessarily support donald trump, republicans, they have told me that there is a two-tiered justice system. that is coming straight from
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donald trump's camp and republican camps saying that this is because hunter biden is not getting the same treatment, the bidens are not getting the same treatment that donald trump himself is getting. that is a narrative that is breaking through to voters and republican voters. when you talk about the fact kayla was mentioning about ramping up their rhetoric on the democratic side, that's why. because some of this republican messaging is, in fact, breaking through. regardless of whether or not trump is behind it and if it's a way to deter from donald trump or if he is the one that's creating it, it is working with republican voters and that is also why you're hearing so much from democrats who say they want a stronger approach from the white house on this because they want a counternarrative. >> they are needing one. it's very clear. kristen, david, thank you so much, as well to kayla tausche at the white house for us. we appreciate it. coming up, back behind bars and a huge sigh of relief for the community in pennsylvania after police there captured this escaped murderer who had been on the run for two weeks. plus, a five-hour meeting
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with global consequences. what we are learning about the summit between russian president putin and north korean dictator kim jong-un. and later, it's me, hi, i'm the writer, it's me. why all you swifties might want to dust off your resumes. looking for a taylor swift reporter. all these stories and more coming up on "cnn news central."
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war in ukraine. at their state dinner kim pledged his full and unconditional support for russia. cnn's will ripley joins us live from taiwan. will, what is the biden administration saying about this meeting? >> reporter: well, they don't have a whole lot of leverage, boris. this is the problem. because what russia and north korea are possibly able to do by creating this partnership is they use the things that they have to help the other out. you scratch your back, you scratch your back. north korea provides weapons for ukraine, russia provides sanctioned components and information for north korea to build ballistic missiles. they both are sanctioned, both outcasts. russia and president putin now at the same level as the north korean leader who has been grinding his way up the diplomatic ladder, if you will. what the united states is
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threatening to do is something they've been threatening all along, sanctions, sanctions which north korea has shown they can get around. this is what they say. >> when you see kim jong-un vowing to provide full unconditional support for russia's so-called sacred fight to defend its security interests which of course is not what it's doing with respect to the war in ukraine that of course is troubling. when you see what looks to be increased cooperation and probably military transfers as we've said for some time we have reason to believe they were going to discuss military transfers, that is quite troubling and would potentially be in violation of multiple u.n. security council resolutions. we have taken actions to sanction entities that have brokered arm sales between north korea and russia and we won't hesitate to impose additional actions if appropriate. >> reporter: but all of those steps have done little to slow kim's nuclear program and with russia's help he can actually speed things up at an even
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faster clip than he has ever been able to do before. so essentially what the u.s. says and what they try to do at the united nations, russia and china can veto and north korea launching ballistic missiles unabated, boris. >> will ripley reporting live from taiwan. thanks. joining us now retired u.s. army lieutenant general mark hertling. good to have you back. >> great to be with you, jim. thanks. >> so we know russia needs north korean ammunition for its war in ukraine. we know north korea wants a lot in return, including missile technology. are they likely to get it and if they do, how destabilizing is that? >> yeah, i believe that there is that strong possibility, jim, based on the coordination that mr. putin and mr. kim have made over the last several days, but isn't this somewhat historically reminiscent of a stalin/hitler or hit sler already been mussolini pact.
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not interested in the national security of the other country but certainly as will just said, you scratch my back, i will scratch yours. russia desperately needs more ammunition, they can't produce t but they're going to get a lot of artillery ammunition of the old type, area fired imprecise weapon system. i think truthfully north korea has the most to gain and they've been showing kim around the different sites that will provide him the kinds of things he is interested in, not only ballistic missile guidance systems, potential to put ballistic missiles on submarines and that's the thing i'm most concerned about, but also, you know, just some of the capability that russia has advanced technologically that korea just has not been able to master, even though they have been firing the missiles. >> that's why it's notable that they went to a russian space launch facility because as you and i well know that's not about peacefully exploring space, that's a good way to develop an icbm. is russia likely to provide icbm
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technology to north korea, perhaps even weaponized satellites? >> yeah, i think they can certainly provide the information that are mind both of those things. russia has very good capabilities in those areas. unfortunately they have not -- russia has not proven themselves to have as good a capability on the military front and that's what they do actually share in common with north korea. north korea and russia's army are both second class. they have a lot of artillery, they use that to their advantage, that's part of their doctrinal way of fighting. certainly you would see that kind of exchange of munitions but not much more that is going to help russia and, as i said, jim, this is an alliance that is somewhat dysfunctional from the very beginning, even though in the past russia has, for instance, forgiven a lot of
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north korean debt, they have been partners with them using those kind of relationships as an advantage over china, but in this case what you're seeing is two very strange bedfellows coming together on a strategic alliance, getting both what they want -- >> russia doesn't have a lot of friends, kind of like china, they're stuck with north korea. before we go you and i regularly talk about the progress of the war in ukraine. how significant is north korea's help to russia in terms of continuing that war? >> well, it is going to give them the ammunition that they need and what we've seen, the reports have shown that russia has been degraded in their artillery capability not only because ukraine has been striking their artillery systems with precision weapons, but also because they've just been using so doggone much. they've fired a lot of rockets and artillery rounds and that's what they hope to get resupplied, but you are talking about a base of support from north korea. they have to transport that either across the mainland of
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russia over 11 time zones, which consists of the russian mainland or they're going to have to ship it by sea and both of those will be subject to interference or blockades and there is the potential for different policies that the western nations and the u.s. can actually put that go beyond just sanctioning north korea and russia and i think we will see more of that in the future. >> lieutenant general mark her hertling, thanks so much as always. >> thank you. up next, two weeks on the run, it's all over now for that escaped murderer in pennsylvania. how officials were finally able to capture him and where he is headed now. plus, a shocking announcement from republican utah senator mitt romney. he is not going to run for reelection in 2024. what is behind his decision ahead.
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the manhunt that had a nation watching is over. convicted killer danelo cavalcante who was captured this morning, seen here at the pennsylvania state police barracks before heading to the state prison, two weeks ago the 34-year-old inmate escaped the chester county prison, but this morning police say it was a dea plane that picked up cavalcante's heat signal. officers then surrounded him. cavalcante, they say, then tried
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to crawl away with the rifle that he had stole from a homeowner not too far away, but police dogs stopped him. >> i believe he was taken by surprise and i believe the k-9 played a large role in him not being able to utilize that firearm. >> our nightmare is finally over and the good guys won. we owe a debt of gratitude to all of the first responders for their tireless and dedicated efforts in bringing this fugitive to justice. >> cnn's danny freeman is joining us now from chester county. danny, i can't imagine how relieved people are there in the area, and also how relieved the families are the victims of danelo cavalcante are. >> reporter: brianna, the amount of relief in chester county is tremendous. two minutes before i came on air i was speaking to a woman who
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says that she's very familiar with the area, she said she actually rides her horse and fox hunts in this area all the time and she said it's been nerve-racking. she has a lot of friends that live well within this search perimeter who had their homes searched over the weekend. just the thought of having a convicted murderer on the loose in this frankly otherwise very peaceful area of chester county, it really kept folks on edge. she was just talking to me saying the amount of relief, again, it feels like she can breathe again. and that's really the sentiment we've been hearing from residents in the area all day. i will say we are now at the spot right behind me, brianna, this where cavalcante was picked up along pottstown pike. we were up up along pottstown pike when he was captured and we saw residents showing their support for pennsylvania state police and law enforcement agencies who were here. we spoke to neighbors personally while they were here. take to listen to what they had
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to say. >> so from your perspective this was one of the best opportunities they had to get him. >> yeah, if he got out of here it would have been real tough. it's just kind of nice to know that they got him and we can go back to life, go back to doing our thing normally. >> it's definitely relieving, especially because, like i said, started out in westchester, he made it all the way here. that's like an hour away. it's just crazy how much -- how much he traveled in a short amount of time. >> reporter: and then of course, brianna, you noted that the family of the victim of cavalcante's murder deborah bran d brandao, they got the first call, 14 days on the run, now captured. >> that is something, they got the first call. danny freeman, thank you for your report. boris? 6,000 people are reportedly dead in libya after devastating flooding there. the desperate search and rescue effort to keep that number from
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the humanitarian crisis in libya is growing more dire by the minute. the death toll now stands at more than 6,000 people, following devastating flooding in the country's northeastern city. right now emergency teams are searching flew piles of debris for survivors and bodies, some 10,000 people are still missing.
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cnn's senior international correspondent ben wedeman has been following this. ben, i wonder, is the assumption here that many, most of those missing have lost their lives? what's the priority right now? >> reporter: well, the priority is to find anybody, any possible survivors, but things are not looking good. keep in mind that when those two dams broke as a result of this intense rainfall from storm daniel it essentially sent a wall of mud, a tsunami of mud, through the middle of the city and unlike an earthquake where you might find a pocket of air somewhere in a demolished building, with mud, that's it, you're suffocated, you're dead. the expectation is, i mean, we're already getting unofficial reports that perhaps the death toll is 8,000 and it's probably going to continue to rise.
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now, as a result of this death toll in a town that's very difficult to access because many of the roads and bridges were washed out, there are hundreds, perhaps thousands of bodies lying around the city. they've been covered with blankets, but the temperatures are still high and doctors are very worried that in the absence of any sort of refrigeration, any power, that there could be an outbreak of disease as a result of all of those bodies lying around. in addition there is the problem that there is not any clean running water as well. so there is a real problem or threat of disease breaking out in addition to simply the fact that the infrastructure in that city has by and large collapsed. jim? >> there's the danger of the immediate disaster then of course the danger of the aftermath.
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ben wedeman, thanks so much. for more information about how you can help, libya flood relief efforts, please do go to cnn.com/impact. several good options there. boris? now to some of the other headlines we're watching this hour. the cdc says that drug overdose deaths are continuing to rise. with this year already on track to break new records. new data shows that more than 111,000 people died from a drug overdose in the 12-month period ending in april. that's about 1,000 more compared to the previous year. the cdc says that fentanyl and other synthetic opioids are involved in nearly 70% of those overdose deaths. also, republican senator mitt romney of utah says he is not running for reelection. the 76-year-old points out he would be in his mid 80s when his next term ends and he says he wants a new generation of leaders to take his place. senator romney obviously has been an outspoken critic of former president donald trump. and this popular '90s boy
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band said bye bye bye in the early 2000s but last night nsync made a lot of fans happy at the vma awards. watch. >> over 20 years ago we were just kids when we won best pop video for "bye bye bye." it was our first vma and it meant the world to us. >> well, last night meant the world to taylor swift and her fans because the boy band presented her the best pop award. she seemed just as shocked as her fans by the surprise reunion. brianna. always good to see those guys together. so still ahead, this is an almost 30-year-old cold case cracked wide open due to advances in dna analysis and some very good detective work. we're going to take you inside this case.
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choose change, california, and find medically proven treatment options at choosechangeca.org. case cracked wide open due to dna analysis and very good detective work. back in 1994, 37-year-old robin lawrence was stabbed to death in her suburban virginia home not far from washington, d.c. while her 2-year-old daughter who was unharmed but left alone was in the other room. now police collected dna at time but they could not find the killer until now. detectives revisiting this cold case used that dna to find blood relatives and come up with a sketch of what the suspect may have looked like and you see the sketch here alongside two photos
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of the suspect when he was younger and this led to virginia detectives to the new york home of stephen smerk who has now been charged with second-degree murder. kevin davis is with us now, the chief of fairfax county police department. chief, thank you so much for being with us. obviously a terrible case. but good news there is an ending here. explain how these detectives tracked smerk down with dna and how this sketch played a role. >> well thank you for having me. that sketch is aize maing and that sketch was not drawn by an artist. it was generated by genetic research genealogy. it is an amazing cool. we saw several cases in the past couple years based on familiar matches. we collected a good dna sample back in 1994 to we have a dna profile that sat in a facial data base and almost 30 years later, a relative of stephen smerk was hit upon. so we knew that we didn't have
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our killer necessarily, but we had someone related to our killer and that is when our cold case detectives decided to take a trip up to new york. >> and explain that. so that leads to a sketch. how do you find the person to then go to his house? >> you look at who that person is related to and you see if that person is employed or lives near where the crime scene was committed so we have a good idea we were in the ballpark but we have no idea within an hour and a half of making contact with stephen smerk that he could be confessing to fairfax county detectives. it is amazing. >> they showed up and asked for a swab and they gave it to him. >> that is a red flag to consent. he didn't ask any questions whatsoever. he immediately consented and our detectives told him they were investigating a 1994 murder in fairfax county and without question, he gave the sample and an hour and a half later when
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the detectives were back at the hotel and he call and said i want to talk about what i did. >> this is a brutal murder. this was a brutal murder and the suspect who has confessed seemed to have lived a normal life since then. did you learn anything from him? >> that too is amazing. there is many extraordinary things about this case. he's been married for many yearyears and has two high school age children and lives an ordinary life as an i.t. professional. has never encountered law enforcement, has never been arrested. that is a bit unusual. he's 51 years old. and all i could imagine is he's been living with what he did since 1994 and he fully confessed to our detectives in great detail. >> without giving very good reason for this, is what is clear. this haven't a very kclear motive. we think of this case and we think of the gilgo beach murders this summer where police used
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dna evidence and some detective work revisiting the cold cases. are we going to see a host of cases like this coming from all over the country? >> i think, brianna, we're already seeing it. and right now i'm thinking about renaming cold case to simply unsolved murders. because they're waiting to be solved. and with genetic genealogy and research and analysis and the family matches that we're making left and right, it allows us to get closer and closer to persons who do commit the ultimate crime of murder. our victims can't speak for themselves so we have to do that work on their behalf. >> and they still have family members who want answers. it is so, so important. chief, thank you for being with us. >> thanks, brianna. still ahead, champagne problems. no more. you could love taylor swift ever more with a new gig as the taylor swift reporter for the nation's biggest newspaper chain. imagine that.
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are you ready for it? i've always wanted to say that. it is very exciting for me. so gannett is hiring a reporter solely focused on taylor swift, brianna just applied for it. >> i'm going to see what does it pay. i have some questions. the largest newspaper change is looking for someone who knows singer and her influence and a writer and photographer and social media prowho could quench a steady swift of everything that is taylor swift. >> it sounds like brianna.
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>> or jim. >> or boris. >> $21 to $50 an hour. >> that is a range. >> but it has met with some bad blood because gannett axed hundreds of jobs last year to cut costs. >> not taylor swift, not my bag, but nevertheless if the swift shift sounds like a wild dream to you, gannett has a blank space for you to write down your fame. >> well delivered. i'm told that is a lyric -- >> no, it said does it sound like your wildest dreams. >> because that is a lyric. >> do you get tickets is a question? >> that is a good question. >> i think so. >> we should check that out. >> do you get to cover the international tour? i have a producer who is asking. i hope the answer is no or she might leave me. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. some house republicans worry the impeachment road could b
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