congresswoman lauren boebert's office has been blowing smoke about why she was kicked out of the movie beetle juice. you heard that correctly. her spokesperson said she was not vaping but the video shows the colorado republican was vaping during a performance. that cloud of smoke was not coming from a smoke machine which is what her office initially had claimed about what happened. boebert is seen on the video taking selfies with her flash. on she said she was unaware that photos weren't allowed in the theater. as she left as she was promptly escorted out by the worker, the congresswoman and her date flipped the bird to the employees who were really just doing their jobs.

only note, please behave if you go see "beetlejuice" this weekend. thanks so much. wow! >> everyone needs to leave the room when that video comes on. thanks. have a good weekend. good evening, everyone. i'm pamela brown in for abby. the feds are asking for a gag order on donald trump and the former president is daring the judge to give him one. the special counsel's team wants to make restrictions on what trump can say about the election interference case, accusing him of telling lies, and threatening prosecutors. it is a pretty extraordinary move given the circumstances of trump being a presidential candidate, and trump for his part wasted no time firing back. he called jack smith deranged. just moments ago, accused the feds of trying to silence him during a campaign. >> did you see today that deranged jack smith? he's the prosecutor.

he's a deranged person. he wants to take away my rights under the first amendment. he wants to take away my right of speaking freely and openly. >> keep in mind, trump has a long history of trying to intimidate his way out of legal trouble. there is a record of this after paul manafort and rick gates were indicted by robert mueller. he said trump's personal lawyer said he would take care of them. and rudy giuliani said he should sleep well because he had friends in high places. and trump called roger stone brave for refusing to flip, eventually pardoning him. a trump lawyer left a voicemail for michael flynn on the eve of his guilty plea suggesting flynn would stay in good graces if he stayed close. as president, trump ordered his white house counsel to publicly lie about efforts to fire mueller after trump fired fbi director james comey. he fired him with tapes if he talked. and during a live hearing, trump personally attacked the former

u.s. ambassador to ukraine who was asked about the tweet in real-time. >> it's very intimidating. i can't speak to what the president is trying to do but i think the effect is to be intimidating. >> and the georgia investigation trump recently told a republican witness not to testify, and the january 6th investigation, the intimidating continued. >> after our last hearing, president trump tried to call a witness in our investigation. a witness you have not yet seen in these hearings. >> i'm going to bring in former january 6th committee counsel marcus childress. great to have you here on this friday evening. let's dive into this. trump, no surprise, wasted no time firing back at jack smith and his latest criticism, he is saying with this limited gag order that jack smith is requesting, that essentially, he is trying to take away his first

amendment rights. what do you say to that? >> i say it's baloney. shepherd versus maxwell cited in his brief, on page one. that's the case. when you have a trial, the outside influences and the influences inside of a courtroom, they can be controlled by the judge. what's paramount in a criminal trial is the integrity of the process, number one, and the unbiased nature of the jury pool and the jury that is selected. so that's the purpose of the gag order. what bothers me about donald trump is he is going to violate the gag order if it is issued. there are clause that's they're asking for, the government, and he cannot possibly comply with that. he is not allowed to talk about the merits of the case. that's what the proposed order says. he will violate that in a new york minute. so i'm applauding the special counsel for seeking the gag

order, but just, we're creating a can of worm for donald trump. >> so what does that mean? if he violates it, what would happen? jail time? >> cuffs. and here's what judge tomkins should do if she ever listens to me. give him a couple of mulligans. let him hang himself after a gag order. if he breaks the rules two or three time, you have to do something about it and incarceration would possibly be a remedy. it would have to be. >> i hear your point about you have to respect and abide by the decorum and rules to of this case and the courtroom and so forth. this is unique in that he is the leading republican presidential candidate. i mean, how much should the judge weigh that as a judge looks at this request and decides how to move forward? >> the court will have to look at the facts before it. but you can't ignore this elephant in the room that you just said. that he's the republican nominee. jane mentioned the integrity of the process. and i think this is what we're

seeing with president trump repeatedly. he tried to undermine the integrity of the election process leading to january 6th. now he's doing that same play book leading up to his trial with the special counsel's office. and the special counsel is doing an extraordinary remedy saying you have a chance, court, to try to rein this in and prevent some violence like we saw on january 6th. and going back to you are why opening with roger stone, it is interesting that the special counsel cites that case, that obstruction of congress case in its filing about the gag order. >> and i think we can't separate the politics from this. that donald trump stands a lot to gain from this and from his rhetoric saying he's trying to take away my first amendment rights. it gins up his base and list supporters. >> i had an epiphany waiting to come on your show. i think donald trump wants to poison this jury in the worst way because he knows that the evidence against him is so strong, and the only way he can win is to create a jury pool

that is so tainted. i finished a six-week trial in february and march of this year. the judge did the best he could with the jury pool and he concluded he had a fair jury. but there were answers and responses in our jury pool. it was an oath keeper, that were just over the top. donald trump is multiplying that time five. and it will be impossible, or very hard to get a fair and unbiased jury pool. >> let me follow up on that, and to you on that point. jack smith is making this argument, too. that trump's public rhetoric will further prejudice a jury. but some might hear that and say, look, he was the president of the united states. how are you going to get an unbiased jury. >> the jury has to follow the judge's instructions. that's the real key.

or do you have an opinion formed so concretely that you can't follow judge's instructions? i think i'm more worried about the safety of the jurors and the witnesses who don't want to really be involved in this. they're called to their civic duty. you heard senator romney mention how there were members afraid to vote on impeachment because the former president was tweeting about how they should vote and they were scared for their safety. if you have congressional members afraid to vote a certain way, man how a juror would feel if you have a former president tweeting these things out about the process and how it is out to cheat him. so that's what i'm concerned about. it the special counsel is also worried about that. >> marcus brought up a good point. page 13 of this gag order motion. there is the united states versus brandon fellows. for a juror, the jury sent a note. they wanted to confirm that the defendant does not have any personal information on individual jurors. so what marcus just said about the jurors being scared, that

has happened already in one of these cases. and i do want to add this. in our jury pool, believe it or not, there were several jurors that just shut down. did not watch news. just read online and they tuned out everything to do with donald trump. and they live near the u.s. capitol. >> i do want to note in the larger context of the threats and the concerns, we have seen how his public rhetoric has impacted election workers, some having to get personal protection because of the way he spoke and his allies, rudy giuliani, and so forth. so it's not unfounded in that broader context. marcus and jean, thank you again. appreciate your analysis and perspective on this story. this breaking story. up next, we'll head to the picket line to speak with a mother and daughter autoworkers duo on strike tonight. plus, we'll check with the chamber of commerce on why they're blaming president biden for this. and one ceo taking heat for

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the historic strike against america's big three automakers is underway tonight and the sides are far apart. today workers walked out at three plants of gm, ford, and

sel stellantis. they are demanding a pay raise over ten years and a 40-hour pay for 30 hours of work. they are offering counter proposals including double digit pay raises but they are nowhere near close to what the union is asking. the strike is already making an impact. ford laying off 600 workers while gm said it will idle about 2,000 workers next. the ua president saying today that 80% of the union demands have been left off proposals from the big three automakers. i want to bring in lisa and her mother and fellow member marilyn. they are currently on the picket lines in wayne, michigan. thank you both for coming on the show. i want to start with you. you were there. you're there at the picket line. it started last night. how would you describe the mood out there? and how are you feeling right now? >> well, the mood right now,

everybody is calm. we have fellow workers with us today. i'm really nervous about how this will be. and how long it will take. >> marilyn, you've been working at ford for almost 22 years. how important is the strike for you and your fellow members? in your view, has this been a long time coming? >> it's been a long time coming. we've given up so much. and it's about time that ford, chrysler, gm stands up and takes care of their people. we need the tiers to be gone. we gave away so many things. now it is our time. time for them to give back to the workers. we are the back bone. we are the ones that put value in this car. not the c's. let them take a pay cut, the ceos. >> when you say you gave away so much, you're talking about during the 2008 financial crisis, right? >> yes.

we gave so many things up. and now when i go -- [ inaudible ]. >> i want to go to you, ana lisa. there is a demand of a 40% pay increase in ten years. would you be willing to go back to work for less than that? >> honestly, like what they're giving, what they're offering right now, 20%, no. it would have to be more than, it would have to be more than 30% at this point. >> we're already seeing layoffs happen by some of these auto companies. are you concerned the longer you hold out that your job could be threatened, eliminated, or possibly these companies could turn to artificial intelligence in a way that is faster than

perhaps they were planning on. similar to what we've been seeing with other manufacturing jobs. what do you think about that, marilyn? >> well, at this point, it doesn't scare me. we have to do what we have to do. we stand together with this. so whatever happens, we have to leave in it god's hands. >> good luck to you both. thank you so much for coming on the show. >> thank you for having us. >> i want to bring in neal bradley, executive vice president of the u.s. chamber of commerce. thank you for your time tonight. the chamber of commerce is blaming president biden for this strike. why do you think he bears responsibility here? >> well, i think part of what we're seeing going on in this strike and a summer of strikes. over 200 strikes so far this year and counting, is this kind of sense of unrealistic expectations of what can economically be done. no one is talking about not raising employee pay.

in fact, you just showed the graphic yourself, bringing in this segment. a 20% pay increase that is being put forward by the major auto company. the question is, what kind of pay increases can be absorbed in this moment? and i think what we've come to realize, when you want to increase pay by 40%, and you want to get paid for five days but only work four days, these are the types of demands that just aren't grounded in economic reality. and if they were to be forced upon these companies, what it would mean is that they're going to have to shutter their operations. no one wins in a situation where unrealistic demands means companies can no longer operate. that's what concerns us quite a bit. >> you've heard what they had to say. look, this is about recouping from all the sacrifices we made, and they're arguing that ceos got 35% pay increase.

so is that really out of line, what they're demanding for their own pay increases, given how the ceos, how many they're making? how much of an increase in their salary there is? and the fact that there have been record profits for these auto companies in recent years? >> there is definitely a lot of apples and oranges going on here and it is very hard to compare some parts of compensation with others. you really do have to look at the collective things that are being requested in this instance by the uaw. i think one of the reasons we're in this situation is because the president's approach for an all of government pro unionization at any cost has created these unrealistic expectations. if you look at what's happening in public policy today, the thumb is being put on the scale in favor of labor in a way that brings things out of bounds. when you begin to see it in the real world, in negotiations like

we're having today, we end up in situations where the two sides are so far apart, we end up with strikes like this that will end up becoming economically devastating. not just for the nation. not just for these companies and these employees. but all the small businesses. the suppliers, the restaurants in these areas who won't have customers anymore. so this is not a cost-free exercise here. that's why we need to get back to reality. that's why we're urging the administration to help get the parties back to the table. and most importantly, bring back balance to the labor management relationship. >> and i want to note, given what you're trying to argue, that this is biden's fault. the uaw has not endorsed president biden in this presidential race. and as we know, president biden has spoken out about this and that, look, the ceos as i pointed out earlier, they're making so much more money. it is tight for the workers to make more money. you pointed out the economic risk and how this can be felt

throughout the economy. there's really no telling when this will end. the last one if 2019 which was not in this grand scale. it lasted for about 40 days. how could american consumers feel the economic impact of this strike? >> well, let's start with the fact that those who are buying new cars and eventually those who end up buying used cars will pay more. so as cars are not rolling off the end of that assembly line, as we have a mismatch between supply and demand, prices are naturally going to go up. that will be compounded by the fact the demands being made by the units today will have to be made up somewhere today. that will be made up in higher costs paid by consumers. not to mention that you have all the other collateral damage that's done. we talk going auto parts suppliers. we talk about the restaurants, the service industries in these areas. when they lose business, there is no way to make that back up. there will be losses for those

small businesses, for those employees. you begin to compound that over time. especially if this goes on. four weeks, eight weeks, and you're talking about significant damage to the american economy. >> all right. neil bradley, thank you so much for offering your opinion on this developing matter. >> thanks for having me. as class warfare is hitting an inflection point in manager, one ceo said workers have become arrogant and need to be taught a lesson. we'll debate that, up next. plus, from the daily show, admitting to fabricating the stories he claims have affected his experience in what happens to him. does it matter in comedy? we'll plan is next..

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class warfare is hitting an inflection point this year. strikes across america is putting an eye on the income gap. there's one ceo who says it's n not inequality that's the issue. he's worth north of $500

million. he argues this is the problem. >> i think the problem that we've had is that we have, people decided they didn't really want to work so much anymore through covid and that has had a massive impact on productivity. they have been paid a lot to do not too much in the last few years. and we need to see that change. we need to see unemployment rise. it has to jump 40, 50% in my view. to remind people that they work for the employer. not the other way around. >> he has faced fierce back lash following his comments and he has since apologized. with us now, the president of the marm marlins and political commentator. this ceo says the workers need to be reminded that they work for the employer, not the other way around. that unemployment should go up 40, 50%. is this a good look for a

multimillionaire ceo to be calling his workers arrogant? >> clearly it was not a good look. that's what forced him and caused him to apologize. i think his point was a little more nuanced than. that he was trying to explain that coming out of covid, we have to get people back in the mindset of being more productive. of course, they need to be compensated for that. and a 40% increase in unemployment, people thought he meant 40% unemployment. that's not what he meant at all. i'm not calling for more unemployment but i do agree that we need to get workers back, all of us, to the point pre-covid where we were responsible to work five days a week, to go into the office, when our job requires us to go into the office. you've got bankers and lawyers who don't even want to go into the office now. so it is all across the income spectrum. his point was a little more nuanced and he didn't deliver it very well. >> is david right here? >> i don't know. i think this is one random rich

jack -- from australia who is mostly known for administration wrong economic announcements. the previous one that i identify with him. he said millennials couldn't buy avocados because they were spending too much on toast. i thought it was pretty tone deaf and rightfully ridiculed. i don't know that i would read too much into it. productivity growth has been slow, that's true. but i don't think it is because employees have gotten too arrogant. >> david is correlating, it seemed like, correct me if i'm wrong, the lack of productivity is tied to workers not all going back into the office five days a week. how many, catherine, employers do want their workers back in the office. how much does that correlate to productivity? >> well, we don't really know at this point. there have been studies that have found it can work in both directions.

there are some studies that have found that workers are more productive when they are home, in part, maybe because they're able to organize their days more efficiently. they're getting interrupted less frequently. they're happier. there are studies that find the opposite. i think it is industry dependent. i do worry about new entrants to the work force sort of being on-boarded remotely and how quickly they are able to learn new skills and to be more productive. you're right out of college, i think it is quite hard to learn everything that you would need to learn at your very first job. and i do wonder if there might be some injuring effects from this sort of transition if you want to call it, to remote work or hybrid work. so i think there are some parts of the economy, some parts of the labor force that may be affected by this. i think we don't know how it will shake out. there's a lot of evidence workers are happier. and if they have more control over their schedules. and that may in fact, as i said,

translate at least in some sectors to a more productive work force. there's a lot of different variables cutting in different directions here. so i think it is too soon to say. there are lots of fights, including in offices that i've worked for, about trying to get people back into the office. >> i want to tie all of this discussion into what is happening right now, this dynamic situation with the strike, the uaw strike. david, auto workers are demanding a 40% pay bump. many argue they are recouping on the sacrifices they made in 2008. when you look at the pay gap between ceos and workers, it is staggering. ceos now make 399 times more than their workers on average. do these union workers have a fair argument here, david? >> well, certainly union workers have a fair argument and it is their time to strike. tying into what we were just talking about, they're asking to get paid for five days of work

and only working four. who would want that deal? but the real issue is that shawn fain who is leading the uaw, he ran on the platform of being a hard liner. he was elected by the workers in a very, very close vote and he has promised the world. and you can tell by what his demands are. so what really concerns me about this strike is whether or not he can manage the expectations of the union's membership. as we saw in an earlier interview, just throwing out numbers, well, we would take 30% or 32%. that's not exactly how the negotiations go, because there are different trades. when you talk about pension, when you talk about overtime, when you talk about wages, herring. so it has to be an all-in solution and i'm certainly concerned that shawn fain doesn't want a solution so quickly, because that was his whole campaign. >> when you look at this auto

strike, catherine, who holds for leverage? >> that is a good question. i think both sides are in for some pain here. because the workers, obviously, have money in the strike fund now. it will not last indefinitely, particularly if the scale of the strikes increase, and more people have to draw on that strike fund. and you know, even the strike that they're getting now is less than if they were doing their normal shifts. so there will be pain there. there's obviously pain at the auto company because they're not able to produce. and then there is lots of difficulty throughout the rest of the supply chain. a lot of companies that sell to the auto companies that buy cars, auto dealerships, for example. so who has the upper hand in all of this is really hard to tell at the moment. i think it is fair to say that the workers expectedations need

to be managed here. not only on the amount of pay that they were asking for, and i wholeheartedly agree that they deserve a raise. particularly since prices have gone up across the economy and lots of other workers have gotten raises and they key serve a raise. but some of the other things beyond heads to eye-popping raises will make the companies they work for much less competitive in the long run. that will be an issue. i'm thinking things like demanding that the companies continue to pay workers even if a plant is shut down entirely which is one of the things the union is asking for and sort of a version of a famous policy that these unions used to have in their contract going back to the '80s, that was problematic in that that caused a lot of financial problems for these companies. the big three as they are known may be dominant, or semi dominant in this industry today.

but there is a transition coming with a lot of upstarts. and these companies need to main continue a competitive edge. it is a difficult dance hear. >> all right, david and catherine, great to have you on. thanks so much. >> thank you. up next, the daily yes show comedian admits to racial discrimination. i'll talk about it. and new video shows congresswoman lauren boebert vaping and she and her date were groping each other. i'll tell but this after the break.

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david: i'm david goldberg, a bilingual elementary school teacher and president of the california teachers association. as we start a new school year, there's something new happening in california's public schools. jessie: they're called community schools. david: where parents and families, students and educators are making decisions as one. damien: it's a real sense of community. leslie: we saw double-digit gains in math, in english, and reading scores. david: it's an innovation that's transforming our public schools. narrator: california's community schools: reimagining public education. for many, comedy comes with a purpose. should it also come with the truth? the daily show alum admitting to the new yorker that many of the

stories he's told in his stand-up routines aren't entirely true. and his netflix special, the king's jester, the comedian tells a story involving anthrax scare that sent his daughter to the hospital. take a listen. >> you have fan mail! give me my fan mail. he grabs a stack of mail. i flip it over and all this white powder falls into the stroller. and it falls on my daughter's shoulder. her neck, her cheeks. and she's staring at me. and i run upstairs and i tell bina and this time i can't lie. >> it turns out, that didn't happen. minhaj himself said the punch line is worth the fictionalized premise. let's discuss this with comedian vince august, the warm-up comedian for the daily show and

he has worked with hasan minhaj. so he is defending himself. he said every story is, quote, built around a seed of truth. on a stage, does just a seed of truth justify? >> well, first no comedian should have to defend themselves. it's comedy. it's art. it's part of process is creating. and i hate to tell everyone this and break down the third wall, but we exaggerate stories to make them funnier. i don't know if you've ever satisfy jeff dunham who works with the puppets. i'll break down the third wall. the puppets don't really talk. i know that will shock a lot of people. we exaggerate. do you know who else exaggerates? everybody i know. >> there is a difference between exaggerating and making something up that is completely false, claiming that you were a victim of a racist attack, for example. what do you say to that? >> it's provocative. that's what comedy is, that's

what art is. it is provocative. you have to elicit emotion. different comics do different things. some work cringe. some work with extreme examples to try to get laughs, to try to get different reactions out of crowds. and do you know what? first i don't know how many people know hasan. i've worked with him. he is one of the kindest people i've ever met. he's a lot nicer than me. you have to know the person, too, and not just take one segment of a special, play a clip and then break down that clip. because the other thing about this, pamela, that's a special on netflix, right? i don't know how many people are tied to their chair at home and forced to watch that special. this isn't waterboarding. you choose to do it. you can get up and walk out of a comedy club. you can shut off the special. so if people are that bothered by it, and bothered by, oh, he made something up. he fabricated something. then lets shut off all

television, let's shut off hollywood. look at the movie rudy. the last third of the movie was a lie. it was based on an exaggeration. we can't get to this point so, comedy has to be true? is this where we're going? >> you make a fair point. i think it is a worthy discussion. you mentioned, you can't just pick apart one clip. i want to talk about another clip where minaj talks about an fbi inform dlag who he says infiltrated his family's mosque in the aftermath of 9/11. let's listen to this and talk on the other end. this, too, we should note, did not happen so let's listen. >> what's up? shhh, come here, boys, come here. let me ask you a question. you boys ever think about jihad? hey, eric, do you know what i want to do one of these days?

what's that? i go, i want to get my pilot's license. then i hear a police siren. i look outside. 15 police cars are in the parking lot. call the cops. they bumrushed the 24-hour fit know. they run past brother eric and they grab me. they drag me outside. they slam my head against the hood of the car. boom! >> so in this case, he singled someone out, right? he essentially said he was racist. did he cross a line here? >> do you know what? you didn't want to talk about in that clip and i don't know if anyone wants to talk about it, the crowd reaction. they were laughing. people were laughing. so whatever happened in that clip that people are upset about, look at the effect of what happened there. it's a joke. he's creating humor. it's entertainment. this is not a news piece. this is not a documentary. this is a comedy show.

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kicked out of a performance of the musical beetle juice at a denver theater last weekend. there were multiple complaints about their behavior including she was vaping, which she denied. but the video doesn't lie. you can see it. there she is. vaping inside that theater. now, a patron behind boebert who was apparently pregnant told the denver post she asked the congresswoman to stop doing it. boebert took out her phone to snap photos of the performance which is not allowed. patrons also complained she was singing and dancing in her seat and she and her companion were noticeably groping each other in front of others. well, tonight she released a statement apologizing for her actions saying, quote, the past few days have been difficult and humbling and i am truly sorry for the unwanted attention my sunday evening in denver has brought to the community. while none of my actions or words as a private citizen that night were intended to be malicious or cause harm the reality they did and i regret that. joining us now is rachel

nichols. so here you are. headliners with rachel nichols on showtime. it is interesting because boebert herself for her part has not held back. she is a republican. has not held back judging, being very vocal about other people's behavior right? she is outspoken against a drag queen's story hour, commentary about the quote-unquote grooming of children and yet here she is during this performance behaving this way which was all caught on video. >> look, this isn't a federal crime and we shouldn't treat it like it is. what it is is rude. it is rude to the woman who was pregnant and asked her to stop vaping. it is rude to the performers, the people next to her, she was flashing with flash photography. this isn't the first time she has done something like this. you can go back to 2015 and she

was actually arrested and led away in handcuffs from another musical performance for disorderly conduct. normally you would think that would tell her not to do it next time. normally you would think her kindergarten teacher would have told her don't be rude. treat other people well. clearly none of those had an effect on her. i don't know if third time as charm. maybe she won't act this way again. she is supposedly facing a tough re-election battle next year. we'll see what the voters think. >> it is interesting. i was meeting with a republican source recently and he talked about some of the conduct we've seen from members of congress like boebert, like marjorie taylor green, shouting durr the state of the union. the source expressed concern you are seeing members in his own party he was talking about who are acting in this way because they want to garner attention in the wrong ways because they think it will help in the re-election. they want to be infamous. >> yes. >> of course you don't know for sure if that is why. is this really the kind of

standards coffin duct members of congress that we -- are these the standards of conduct from members of congress we should expect? >> i think we've seen outliers on both sides trying to act a certain way to get attention and pull stunts. it as matter of how far they are willing to go or how much voters will tolerate. we had a president of the united states who pulled a lot of stunts and behaved in a way people didn't like and got elected president. i think sometimes there are members of congress who are going to try to push the envelope and it is going to be interesting to see whether they pushed it too far >> i want to turn now to new york jets quarterback aaron rodgers. we heard from him today after his achilles injury that put him out for the rest of the season. >> monday was an amazing day to start, amazing night around the field with the flag. the electric.

and then it turned into one of the toughest 24-hour stretches i've had in my life for sure. a lot of sadness. a lot of tears. a lot of dark frustration and anger. the gamut of emotions. but i found myself in l.a. and had surgery on wednesday and since then i've been feeling better. >> how realistic is it that he will be back? >> i think he will be able to come back. we saw kobe bryant with this injury, dan marino with this injury. both of those guys were able to come back. they were not able to be the same player they had been. the advantage for aaron rodgers is there have been new advances in achilles surgery. i'm not a doctor nor do i play one on television but i know there is something called a bridge technique. we had an nfl player able to come back around six months. used to be nine months or even a

year. he played in the super bowl. he is also 24 years old and aaron rodgers is turning 40 in a couple months. i don't know about you but when i crossed 40 years old my body did not do the things it did at 24 years old so we will have to see whether aaron can do that. a little later in the same interview he talked about the fact that all the doubters and people who sit up here and say hey he is 40 years old, he said you're just giving me fuel, inspiration. that is very on brand for aaron. he is someone who his entire career sort of fed on those doubts and has been very successful at it. he wasn't offered a college scholarship to a division 1 school out of high school. he went to comment college then went to a division 1 school and proved everyone wrong with his amazing hall of fame career. in some cases it really worked for him. i think he will use all those doubts to see whether he can fuel himself. we'll have to see if the gas in the tank will get him where he needs to go. >> that is a good reminder of the adversities overcome.

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