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that cloud of smoke was not coming from a smoke machine, which is what her office initially had claimed about what happened. boebert is also seen on the video taking selfies with her flash on. her office claimed that she was unaware that photos weren't allowed in the theater, but as she left after she was promptly escorted out by the theater workers, the congresswoman and her date flipped the bird to the employees who were really just doing their jobs. on that note, please behave if you see beetlejuice this weekend. thank you for joining us, cnn primetime with abby phillips starts right now. >> caitlin, thank you so much. everyone needs to leave the room when that video comes on. the feds are asking for a limited gag order on donald trump and the former president is firing back, essentially daring the judge to give him one. the special counsel's team wants to impose restrictions on what trump can say about the election

interference case, accusing him of telling lies, intimidating witnesses, and threatening prosecutors. it is a pretty extraordinary move given the circumstances of trump being a presidential candidate. he called jack smith deranged, and just moments ago accused the feds of trying to silence him during a campaign. >> did you see today that deranged jack smith, he's the prosecutor, he's a deranged person, wants to take away my rights under the first amendment, wants to take away my right of speaking freely and openly. >> keep in mind trump has a long history of trying to intimidate his way out of legal trouble. there's a record of this after paul manafort and rick gates -- he had friends in high places. and trump called roger stone

brave for refusing to flip, eventually pardoning him. a trump lawyer left a voicemail for michael flynn on the eve of his guilty plea, suggesting flynn would stay in good graces if he stayed close. as president trump also ordered his white house counsel to lie about efforts to fire mueller after trump fired fbi director james comey. he threatened comey with tapes if he talked. and during a live hearing, trump personally attacked the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine who was asked about the tweet in real time. >> it's very intimidating. i mean, i can't speak to what the president is trying to do, but i think the effect is to be intimidating. >> and the georgia investigation trump up recently told a republican witness not to testify and the january 6th investigation the intimidating continued. >> after our last hearing, president trump tried to call a witness in our investigation.

a witness you have not yet seen in these hearings. >> i'm going to bring in former january 6th committee investigative counsel markus childress and former federal prosecutor rossi, great to have you with us late on this friday evening. let's jump into this. trump, no surprise, wasted no time firing back at jack smith. in his latest criticism he's saying with this limited gag order jack smith is requesting that essentially, gene, he is trying to take away his first amendment rights. what do you say to that? >> i say it's bologna. in shepherd versus maxwell, on page one, that's the seminal case. when you have a trial, the outside influences and the influences inside of a courtroom, they can be controlled by the judge because what's paramount in a criminal trial is the integrity of the process, number one, and the unbiassed nature of the jury pool and the jury that's

selected. so that's the purpose of this gag order. what bothers me about donald trump is he is going to violate the gag order if it is issued. there are clauses that they're asking for, the government, and he cannot possibly comply with them. he's not allowed to talk about the merit of the case. that's what their proposed order says. he's going to violate that in a new york minute. so i'm applauding the special counsel for seeking the gag order, but just -- we're creating a can of worms for donald trump. >> so then what does that mean, if he violates it, what would happen? would there be jail time? >> cuffs, cuffs. and here's what judge tomkins should do if she ever listened to me, give him a couple of mulligans. let him hang himself after a gag order. if he breaks the rules two or three times, you have to do something about it. and incarceration would possibly be a remedy. it would have to be. >> i hear your point about, you know, you have to respect and

abide by, you know, the decor rum and the rules of this case and the courtroom and so forth, but this is unique in that he is the leading republican presidential candidate. i mean, how much should the judge weigh that as a judge looks at this request and decides how to move forward? >> the court is going to have to look at the facts before it, but it can't ignore this elephant in the room that you just said, that he's the republican nominee. look, gene mentioned the integrity of the process. this is what we're seeing the president trump repeatedly. he tried to undermine the election process leading up to january 6th, and now he's doing that leading up to his trial here with the special counsel's office. and special counsel's doing kind of an extraordinary remedy saying, look, you have a chance in court to reign this in and prevent violence from happening again like we saw on january 6th. and going back to your opening with mr. stone, roger stone, it's also interesting that, you know, the special counsel cites that case, that obstruction of congress case in its filing about this gag order. >> and i think we can't separate

the politics from this and that donald trump stands a lot to gain from this and from his rhetoric saying, oh, he's trying to take away my first amendment rights. i mean, he fundraises off of that. it begins up his base, right? >> i had an epiphany waiting to come on your show. i think donald trump wants to poison this jury in the worst way because he knows that the evidence against him is so strong. and the only way he can win is to create a jury pool that is so tainted -- i finished a six-week trial in february and march of this year, judge maddock, he concluded he had a fair jury, but there were answers and responses in our jury pool. it was an oath keeper that were just over the top. donald trump is multiplying that times five. and it's going to be impossible or very hard to get a fair and unbiassed jury pool. >> let me just follow up on

that, and to you on that point, because you know, jack smith is making this argument too, that trump's public rhetoric is just going to further prejudice a jury. but some might hear that and say, well, look, he was the former president of the united states, he's a leading republican presidential candidate, i mean, aren't -- how are you going to get an unbias, unprejudiced jury with someone like donald trump? >> the jury has to follow the instructions, that's the real key. or do you have an opinion form sod concretely you can't follow the instructions. i think i'm more worried about the safety of the jurors and witnesses who don't want to be involved in this, right, they're called to their civic duty. you heard senator romney mention how there were members afraid to vote on impeachment because the former president was tweeting about how they should vote and they were scared for their safety. if you have congressional members scared, imagine how a jury would feel if you had the former president tweeting these things out about the process and how it's out to cheat him.

and so that's what i'm kind of concerned about. i think that the special counsel is also worried about that. >> can i just add to that, marcus brought up a good point, on page 13 of this gag order motion, there's the united states versus brandon fellows where a juror, the jury sent a note. they wanted to confirm the defendant does not have any personal information on jurors, so what marcus just said about the jurors being scared, that's happened already in one of these cases. and i do want to add this, in our jury pool, believe it or not, there were several jurors that just shut down, did not watch news, just, you know, read online and they tuned out everything to do with donald trump. and they lived near the u.s. capitol. >> and i do want to note just in the larger context of the threats and the concerns about that, i mean, we have seen how his public rhetoric has impacted election workers and some having to get personal protection because of the way he spoke and

his allies rudy giuliani and so forth. so it's not unfounded in that broader context. >> right. >> marcus and gene, thank you again, appreciate your analysis and perspective on this story tonight, this breaking story. up next we're going to head to the picket line to speak with a mother and daughter auto workers duo who are on strike tonight. plus, we'll also talk with the chamber of commerce on why they're blaming president biden for this. and one ceo taking heat for saying income inequality isn't the issue, it's actually worker arrogance. >> we need to remind people they work for the employer not the other way around. hoooold!!! hooold! now!!!! i'm on it. i'm, on it. already sold to carvana. go to carvana and track your car's value today. ♪ i wanna hold you forever ♪ hey little bear bear. ♪ ♪ ♪ i'm gonna love you forever ♪

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the historic strike against america's big three auto makers underway tonight and the sides are far apart. today workers walked out at three plants of gm, ford, and stellantis in missouri, michigan, and ohio. members demands include a 40% pay raise over ten years and 40-hour pay for 32 hours of work. auto makers are offering counterproposals, including double digit pay raises, but they are nowhere near close to what the union is asking. and the strike is already making an impact. ford laying off 600 workers, while gm says it will idle 2,000 workers next. the uaw president saying today 80% of the union demands have been left off proposals from the

big three auto makers. i want to bring in uaw members. they are currently on the picket lines in wayne, michigan. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. i want to start with you, you were there, you're there at the picket line, started last night. how would you describe the mood out there and how are you feeling right now? >> well, the mood right now, everybody's calm. we have fellow workers with us today. i'm really nervous about what the outcome of this is going to be and how long it's going to take. >> marilyn, you've been working at ford for almost 22 years, how important is the strike for you and your fellow members? in your view has this been a long time coming? >> oh, it's been a long time coming. we have given up so much and it's about time that ford, chrysler, and gm stands up and

takes care of their people. we need the tears to be gone. we need our pay. we gave away so many things, and now it is our time. it is time for them to give back to their workers. we are the backbone. we are the ones that put value in this product. not the ceos. let them take a pay cut. >> and when you say you gave away so much, you're talking about during the 2008 financial crisis, right? >> yes. we gave so many things up. and now when i work across from someone -- they make less money than i do. >> adalisa, i want to go to you, because uaw's demands include a pay raise and pension increases for retirees, would you be willing to go back to work for less than that? >> honestly, what they're giving -- what they're offering right

now, the 20%, no. it would have to be more than -- it would have to be more than 30% at this point. >> i got to ask you, you know, we're already seeing layoffs happen by some of these auto companies, are you concerned the longer you hold out that your job could be threatened, it could be eliminated, or possibly these companies could turn, you know, to artificial intelligence in a way that's, you know, faster than perhaps they were planning on, similar to what we've been seeing with other manufacturing jobs, what do you think about that, marilyn? >> well, at this point, it doesn't scare me. we're going to have to do what we have to do. and we stand together with this. so whatever happens, we have to leave it in god's hands. >> adalisa, marilyn, good luck to you both. thank you so much for coming on the show. >> thank you. >> thank you so much for having us. >> i want to bring in neil bradley, executive vice president of the u.s. chamber of commerce.

hi, neil, thanks for your time tonight. so the chamber of commerce is blaming president biden for this strike. why do you think he bears responsibility here? >> well, i think part of what we're seeing going on in this strike and really a summer of strikes, over 200 strikes so far this year and counting, is this kind of sense of unrealistic expectations of what can economically be done. no one's talking about not raising employee pay. in fact, you just showed the graphic yourself bringing in this segment, 20% pay increases that are being put forward by the major auto companies. so the question is, what kind of pay increases can be absorbed in this moment? and i think what we've come to realize is that when you want to increase pay by 40% and you want to get paid for five days but only work four days, these are the type of kind of demands that just aren't grounded in economic reality. and if they were to be forced

upon these companies, what it would mean is they shutter their operations. so no one wins. that's what concerns us quite a bit at the u.s. chamber. >> you heard what they had to say, look, this is about recouping from all the sacrifices we made and they're arguing that ceos got 35% pay increase. so is that really out of line what they're demanding for their own pay increases, given how the ceos, how much they're making, how much of an increase in their salary there is and the fact there's been record profits in recent years? >> there's apples and oranges going on here. it's hard to compare some parts of compensation with others. you have to look at the things being requested by the uaw. i think one of the reasons that

we're in this situation is because of the president's approach for an all of government pro-unionization at any cost has created these unrealistic expectations. and if you just look at what's happening in public policy today, the thumb is being put on the scale in favor of labor in a way that kind of brings things out of balance. and when you begin to see that in the real world, negotiations like we're having today, we end up in situations where the two sides are so far apart we end up with strikes like this that are going to end up becoming economically devastating not just for the nation, not just for these companies and these employees but all the small businesses, the suppliers, the restaurants in these areas who won't have customers anymore. so this is not a cost-free exercise here. that's why we need to get back to reality. that's why we're urging the administration to help get the parties back to the table. and most importantly, bring back

balance to the labor management relationship. >> and i want to note, given what you're trying to argue here, that this is biden's fault, that the uaw has actually not endorsed president biden in this presidential race and as we know, president biden, he has spoken out about this and said that, look, these ceos, as i pointed out earlier, they're making so much more money, it's time for these workers to make more money. you point out the economic risk and how this can be felt throughout the economy. there's no telling when this will end. the last one in 2019, which was not in this grand scale it lasted for about 40 days. how can american consumers feel the economic impact of this strike? >> well, let's start with the fact that those who are buying new cars and eventually those who end up buying used cars are going to pay more. and so as cars are not rolling off the end of that assembly line, as we have a mismatch between supply and demand, prices are naturally going to go

up. that's going to be compounded by the fact that the demands that are being made by the unions today are going to have to be made up somewhere. that's going to be made up in higher costs paid by consumers. not to mention the fact that you have all the other collateral damage that's done. we talk about auto part suppliers. we talk about the restaurants, the service industries in these areas. when they lose business, there's no way to make that back up. there are going to be losses for those small businesses, for those employees. you begin to compound that over time, especially if this goes on four weeks, eight weeks, and you talking about significant damage to the american economy. >> all right, neil bradley, thank you so much for offering your opinion on this matter, this developing matter. >> thanks for having me. well, is class warfare hitting an inflection point in america? one ceo says workers have become arrogant and need to be taught a lesson. we're going to debate that next.

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well, class warfare is hitting an inflection point this year. strikes across the nation putting a spotlight on america's widening income gap from auto workers to hollywood writers. but there's one ceo who says it's not inequality that's the issue. tim, an australian property developer, who according to fortune is worth north of $500 million, argues this is the problem. >> i think the problem that we've had is that we've, you know, we have people decided they didn't really want to work so much anymore through covid, and that has had a massive issue on productivity. they've pulled back on productivity. they have been paid a lot to do not too much in the last few years. we need to see that change. we need to see unemployment jump 40%, 50%, we need to remind people they work for the employer not the other way

around. >> well, he has faced fierce backlash following his comments and he has since apologized. with us now is the former president of that miami marlin, david sampson, and cnn economics and political commentator katherine rampel. great to see you both, david, this ceo says the workers need to be reminded that they work for the employer not the other way around, that unemployment should go up 40%, 50%. is this a good look for a multimillionaire ceo to be calling his workers arrogant? >> clearly was not a good look, and that's what forced him and caused him to apologize. i think his point was a little more nuanced than that, and he was trying to explain that coming out of covid we've got to get people back in the mindset of being more productive. of course they need to be compensated for that. and a 40% increase in unemployment, people thought he meant 40% unemployment, that's not what he meant at all. i'm not calling for more unemployment, but i do agree we need to get workers back, all of

us, to the point pre-covid where we were responsible to work five days a week, to go into the office when our job requires us to go into the office. you've got bankers and lawyers who don't even want to go into the office now. so it's really all across the income sprek trump. his point was a little more nuanced and he didn't deliver it well. >> katherine, is david right here? >> i don't know. i think this is one random rich jack -- from australia who is mostly known for making wrong economic pronouncements. the previous one i associate with him nayway is he said millennials couldn't buy houses because they were spending too much money on avocado toast. he subsequently apologized for this comment, which i thought was tone deaf and was rightfully ridiculed. i don't know that i would read too much into it. productivity growth has been slow, that's true, but i don't think it's because employees have gotten too arrogant. >> let me follow up on that,

just because david's correlating, it seemed like, and correct me if i'm wrong, that the lack of productivity is tied to workers not all going back to the office five days a week. but how much, katherine, i mean employers do want their workers back in the office. how much does that correlate to productivity? >> well, we don't really know at this point. and actually there have been studies that have found it can work in both directions. there are some studies that have found that workers are more productive when they are home, in part maybe because they're able to organize their days more efficiently, they're getting interrupted less frequently. they're happier. there are some studies that find the opposite. i think it is industry depenalty. i do worry about new entrants to the work force, being on boarded remotely and how quickly they're able to learn new skills and to become more productive. you know, if you're right out of college, i think it's actually quite hard to learn everything that you would need to learn at

your very first job, and i do wonder if there might be some enduring effects from this sort of transition, if you want to call it, to remote work or hybrid work. so i think that there are some parts of the economy, some part of the labor force that may be affect bid this, but i think we just don't know how it's going to shake out. there's a lot of evidence that workers are happier and if they have more control over their schedules. and that may, in fact, as i said, translate at least in some sectors to a more productive work force. there's a lot of different variables cutting in different directions here. so i think it's really too soon to say but absolutely there are lots of fights, you know, including in offices that i've worked for about trying to get people back into the office. >> i want to tie all of this discussion into what's happening right now, this dynamic situation with the strike, the uaw strike, david, auto workers

demanding a 40% pay bump. many say they're recouping on the sacrifices they made in 2008. but when you look at the pay gap between ceos and workers, it's staggering, 390 times more than workers on average. do these union workers have a fair argument here, david? >> well, certainly union workers have a fair argument. it's their right to strike, but tying into what we were just talking about, they're asking to get paid for five days of work and only working four. who wouldn't want that deal? but the real issue is that sean feign, leading the uaw, he ran on a platform of being a hard liner. he was elected by the workers for the first time in a very, very close vote and he has promised the world. and you can tell by what his demands are. so what really concerns me about this strike is whether or not he can manage the expectations of the union's membership, because as we saw in an earlier interview just throwing out

numbers, we'd take 30% or 32%, that's not how negotiations go. so it's got to be an all in solution, and i'm certainly concerned that sean feign really doesn't want a solution so quickly because that was his whole campaign. >> when you look at this auto strike, katherine, who currently holds more leverage? >> that's a good question. i think both sides are in for some pain here because the workers, obviously, have money in the strike fund now. it will not last indefinitely, particularly if the scale of the strikes increase and more people have to draw on that strike fund. and you know, and even the strike pay that they're getting now, obviously, is less than they would work if they were doing their normal shifts. there's going to be pain there.

there's obviously pain at the auto companies because they're not able to produce. and then there is lots of difficulty throughout the rest of the supply chain, because there are a lot of companies that sell to the auto companies, that buy cars, auto dealerships, for example. so who has the upper hand in all of this i think is really hard to tell at the moment. i think it is fair to say that the worker's expectations need to be managed here, not only on the amount of pay that they are asking for -- and i wholeheartedly agree that they deserve a raise, particularly since prices have gone up across the economy and lots of other workers have gotten raises. they deserve a raise, but some of the other things that they are asking for beyond those eye popping raises, i think are going to be really problematic and are probably going to make the companies they work for less competitive in the long run. that's an issue during this ev transition. i'm thinking things like demanding the companies continue to pay workers even if a plant

is shut down entirely, which is one of the things that the union is asking for and is sort of a version of a famous policy these unions used to have in their contracts going back to the '80s that was problematic and caused a lot of financial problems for these companies. the big three, as they are known, may be dominant in this industry today, but you know, there's a transition coming, there are a lot of upstarts, and these companies need to maintain a competitive edge. so it's a difficult dance here. >> all right, david and katherine, great to have you on. thank you so much. >> thank you. and up next, daily show comedian minaj admits to embellishing stories of racial discrimination. i'm going to speak to one of his friends later in the show. new video shows congresswoman lauren boebert vaping and she and her date groping each other before she got kicked out of a theater. and we're now hearing new remarks from her about this

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for many, comedy comes with a purpose, but should it also come with the truth? hasan minhaj admitting to the new yorker that many of the story he's told in his stand-up routines respect entirely true. in his netflix special the king's jester, the comedian tells a story involving an anthrax scare that sent his daughter to the hospital. take a listen. >> yo, you got fan mail. i go, give me my fan mail, carlos. i flip it over, and all this white powder falls into the stroller. and it falls on my daughter's shoulder. her neck, her cheeks.

she's staring at me. and i run upstairs and i tell bina, and this time i can't lie. >> well, turns out that didn't happen. minhaj says himself, he says the punch line is worth the fictionalized premise. so let's discuss this with comedian vince august. he is is warm-up economic for comedy central's the daily show and has worked with hasan minhaj. he's also a practicing lawyer. hi, vince, thanks for coming on. so minhaj is defending himself. he says every story is, quote, built around a seed of truth. on a stage, does just a seed of truth justify? >> well, first of all, no comedian should have to defend themselves. it's comedy. it's art. it's part of the process is creating. and i hate to tell everyone this and break down that third wall, but we exaggerate stories to make them funnier. i don't know if you've ever seen jeff dunham who works with the puppets, i'm going to break down the third wall. the puppets don't really talk.

i know that's going to shock a lot of people, but yeah, we exaggerate. you know who else exaggerates a story? everybody i know. it's what people do. >> there's a difference between exaggerating and making something up that's completely false, claiming that you were a victim of a racist attack, for example. so i just want to -- what do you say to that? >> it's provocative. that's what comedy is. that's what art is, it's provocative. you have to elicit emotion, and listen, different comics do different things. some work with cringe, some work with extreme examples to try to get laughs, to try to get different reactions out of crowds. and you know what, first of all, i don't know how many people here now hasan. i've worked with him. he's one of the kindest people i've ever met. in fact, he's a lot nicer than me, so, i mean, you have to know the person too and not just take one segment of his special, play a clip, and then break down that clip because the other thing about this, pamela, is that's a

special on netflix, right? i don't know how many people are tied to their chair at home and forced to watch that special. this isn't water boarding. you choose to do it. you can get up and walk out of a comedy club. you can shut off the special. so if people are that bothered by excite bothered by, oh my god, he made something up, he fabricated something, then let's shut off all television. let's shut off hollywood. look at the movie rudy. the last third of the movie was a lie. it was based on an exaggeration. so we can't get to this point where -- so what comedy has to be true? is this where we're going? >> and you know, you make a fair point. i think it is a worthy discussion, though. you mention, okay, you can't just pick apart one clip, but i want to talk about another clip here where minhaj talks about an fbi informant who he claims infiltrated his family's mosque in the aftermath of 9/11. let's listen to this and talk on

the other end. this too, we should note, did not happen. >> what's up eric, he's like, shh, come here, boys, come here. let me ask you a question. you boys ever think about jihad? oh hey, eric, do you know what i want to do one of these days? he's like, what's that. i go i want to get my pilot's license. then i hear a police siren. i look outside. 15 police cars are in the parking lot. called the cops. they bum rush the 24 hour fitness. they run past brother eric. they grab me. they drag me outside. they slam my head against the hood of the car, boom. >> so in this case, minhaj singled someone out, right, essentially said he was racist. did he cross a line here? >> you know what, you didn't want to talk about it in that

clip, and i don't know if anyone wants to talk about it, the crowd reaction. they were laughing. people were laughing. so whatever happened in that clip that people are upset about, look at the effect of what happened there. it's a joke. he's creating humor. it's entertainment. this is not a news piece. this is not a documentary. this is a comedy show. this is art. we can't have this incredible high standard for comedians now. it's not a ted talk. it's a comedy show. >> all right, vince august, nice to have you on. >> thank you for having me, pamela. a pleasure. >> thank you. more video released from lauren boebert's ejection from a denver theater. and it completely contradicts her denial over what actually happened. well, she just responded to the criticism moments ago. hear what she has to say up next. nor puddles of water, nor unexpected detours with a 20 foot drainage pipe,

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♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ just in, an apology tonight as new surveillance video shows why maga congresswoman lauren boebert and a companion were kicked out of a denver theater last weekend. there were multiple complaints about their behavior, including that she was vaping, which she denied. but the video doesn't lie. you can see it, there she is vaping inside that theater. now a patron behind boebert, who was apparently pregnant, told the denver post that she asked the congresswoman to stop doing it. boebert then took out her phone to snap photos of the performance, which is not allowed. patrons also complained that she was singing and dancing in her seat and she and her companion were noticeably groping each other inront of others. well, tonight she released a

statement apologizing for her actions, saying, quote, the past few days have been difficult and humbling, and i'm truly sorry for the unwanted attention my sunday evening in denver has brought to the community. while none of my actions or words as a private citizen that night were intended to be malicious or meant to cause harm, the reality is they did and i regret that. joining us now is rachel nichols. >> so here you are, rachel nichols, headliners on showtime, headliners with rachel nichols, it's interesting because boebert herself, for her part, she's not held back. she's a republican who's not held back judging, being very vocal about other people's behavior. she's outspoken against drag queens story hour. she's spewed homophobic and transphobic commentary about the quote,unquote grooming of children, and yet here she is during this performance behaving this way, which was all caught on video. >> i mean, look, this isn't a federal crime, and we shouldn't treat it like a federal crime,

what it is is rude. it's very rude to the woman behind her who, by the way, is pregnant. she's the one who asked her to stop vaping. it's rude to the people next to her who wanted to hear the performers sing. it's rude to the people on stage who were trying to perform. and this isn't the first time she's done something like this. you can go back to 2015. she was actually arrested, led away in handcuffs, from another musical performance for disorderly conduct. normally you would think that would tell her not to do it next time. normally you think her kindergarten teacher would have told her don't be rude, treat other people well. clearly none of those had an effect on her. i don't know if this time, third time's a charm, i do know she's facing a tough re-election battle next year. we'll see what the voters think. >> it's interesting, i was meeting with a republican source recently and he was talking about some of the conduct we've seen from members of congress like boebert, like marjorie taylor green, the shouting during the state of the union,

and this source of mine expressed concern that you're seeing members in his own party he was talking about who are acting in this way because they want to garner attention in all the wrong ways. because they think it's going to help them in the re-election. they want to be infamous. of course, you don't know for sure if that's why, but is this really the kind of standards of conduct with members of congress we're seeing now. is this what we should expect? >> i don't think it's just now. i think we've seen outliers, frankly, in either party in the fringes on both sides trying to act in a certain way to get attention, pulling stunts, things like that. normally it's a matter of how far are they willing to go and how much are voters willing to tolerate. we had a president of the united states who pulled a lot of stunts and behaved in ways a lot of people didn't like. he got elected president and wasn't elected the second time he ran. i think sometimes there are members of congress, politicians in general, who are going to push the envelope. it's going to be interesting to see whether they pushed it too far.

>> i want to turn now to aaron rodgers. we heard from him today after his achilles injury that put him out for the rest of the season most likely. let's take a listen to what he said. >> monday was an amazing day to start, amazing night run on the field with the flag, electric. and then it turned into one of the toughest 24 hour stretches i've had in my life for sure. lot of sadness, lot of tears, lot of dark frustration and anger, all the gamut of emotions, but the sun rose the next day, and i found myself in l.a. and had surgery on wednesday and since then i've been feeling better. >> how realistic is it that he will be back? >> i mean, look, i think that he will be able to come back. we saw kobe bryant with this injury, we saw dan marino with

this injury. both of those guys were able to come back. they were not able to be is same player that they had been. the advantage for aaron rodgers is there's been new advances in achilles surgery. i'm not a doctor nor do i play one on television, but there's a bridge technique. we had an nfl player able to come back after six months. used to be nine months or a year. he was able to come play in the super bowl. he was 24 years old. aaron rodgers is turning 40 in a couple months. i don't know about you, but when i crossed 40 years old, my body did not do the things it did at 24 years old. and so we will have to see whether aaron can do that a little bit later in that same interview, though, he talked about the fact that, you know, all the doubters, all the people who would sit up here and say, hey, he's 40 years old, he said you're just giving me fuel, you're just giving my inspiration. and that is very on brand for aaron. he is someone who his entire career has fed on those doubts. and in a lot of ways been very successful at it. he wasn't offered a college scholarship to a division i

school out of high school. he went to community college and went to a division i school and proved everyone wrong with the career he's had. in some cases it's worked for him. i think he will definitely use all those doubts to see whether he can fuel himself. we'll have to see if that gas in the tank is going to get him where he needs to go. >> that's a good reminder of the adversity he's overcome and if he used those doubts to fuel him. thank you so much, rachel nichols. great to see you. >> absolutely. >> and that's it for me on cnn primetime. cnn tonight with laura coat starts in just a moment with the breaking news on the special counsel wanting a gag order on donald trump. meets bold new thinking. ♪ partnering to unlock new ideas, to create new legacies, to transform a company, industry, economy, generation. because grit and vision working in lockstep puts you on the path to your full potential. old school grit. new world ideas.

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