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i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. 12 days removed from labor day, there's workplace item mel in variety of industries. there's a strike by the 145,000
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uaw against general motors, ford and stellantis. only 13,000 have stopped work so far. they staged select walkouts at plants in missouri, michigan and ohio with threats of more to follow. it's the first time in uaw history it struck all three of america's unionized auto makers at once. as cnn reports, the company has offered to raise wages as much as 20% over the 4-year contracts, which would have taken the senior most workers to a base pay of $80,000 a year, not including overtime or profit sharing bonuses. but the union is demanding 40% during the life of the contract and seeks to reverse concessions that it made back when gm and chrysler faced bankruptcy and needed federal bailouts to survive. the highest paid of the big three ceos made $29 million last year. that's 362 times the median worker's paycheck. the other two had similar compensation. by comparison in 1965, ceos earn 20 times the typical worker's
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pay in their industries, according to the economic policy institute. president biden voiced his support for the union. >> record profits have not been shared fairly, in my view, with those workers. workers dezeserve a fair share the benefits they help create for an enterprise. the bottom line is that auto workers help create america's middle class. they deserve a contract that sustains them in the middle class. >> meanwhile, the writers guild of america has been on strike since may, joined in july by the actors guild. it's the first time they have joined forces on the picket line since 1960. both unions contend their pay has gone down dramatically while compensation has boomed. they are brought production of film to a standstill. but last month 67% of americans supported the strikes. this week tv hosts drew barrymore and bill maher are
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going to make shows without writers. in other fields, 60,000 health care workers in california, oregon, and washington just voted to authorize strikes against keizer, one of the largest nonprofit health plans in america if no agreement is reached by the end of the month. the workers say pay has not kept pace with inflation and it's led to long wait times and neglected patients. last month the 24,000 airlines flight attendants voted almost anonymously to authorize a strike if their demands are not met. and in august, 340,000 ups drivers who the threatened to walk out cored a big contract gain. labor unions are enjoying a resurgence in popularity. gallop found 68% of americans approve. that's the highest since 1965. but with income inequality growing, there's a question as to their effectiveness. and while all this activity has increased awareness of union activity, the number of
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unionized workers in america has been on the decline for decades. joining me now to talk about this is scott galloway, host of a great podcast and someone who has strong opinions about this subject. scott, so you heard me sketch out the fun points of this. union membership is in decline at a time their popularity is growing. how do you see it? are they the most effective means of dealing with these crises? >> good to be with you, michael. something i think every young professional needs to understand, and that is the distinction between being right and being effective. i think it would be hard to argue the unit yoon oes intentions to restore tig anity to the more than worker and have a fair living wage, you'd be hrd to argue they aren't right, but they haven't been effective. 46 have seen union membership decline. it used to be 1 in 3 workers in
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the u.s. now it's 1 in 10 in the awe. so there's just no getting around it. the unions have been an ineffective construct. despite the headlines of 330 starbucks stores unionizing, not one of those 330 unionized stores have resulted in a collective bargaining agreement. it makes for a great headline, but people haven't seen their compensation. i would argue unions, quite frankly r a failed construct. their intentions are noble and people support their intentions, but as a vehicle for recognizing those intentions, they just haven't worked. >> so what's the alternative? i have a poll question today that asks what's the best mechanism for protecting the working class? the choices i offer are the federal government, free market and labor unions. >> the free market, market
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dynamics will always trump individual performance. when you have the market take over, which the corporations will urge, you end up with households where 1 in 5 households with children are in poverty. you end up with people living in their cars. you end up with child labor. the marketplace is a key force here, but it's not enough. there are two former uaw pres presidents in prison because of corruption. there are thousands of unions that don't coordinate. there should be one union in the united states and it should be the federal government. we should take mum wage to where it would be if it was scaling productivity around $23 or $25. can you think of any one move the federal government could make that could reduce childhood poverty, suicide, male abandon the, diabetes, poverty, homelessness, that be raising the minimum wage.
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what we have seen in studies out of berkeley is when you raise the minimum wage, as they did in california, new york and washington, you not only don't lose jobs, you gain employment and the economy grows because the wonderful thing about middle income households is when you give them additional money, they spend it. so since 2009, the nasdaq is up threefold. minimum wage is stuck at $7.25. there should be one union. the head of that union is biden. $25 minimum wage. >> you know there's some businesses that are on the margin. they say if there were a from thely mandated minimum wage, we wouldn't survive. would it be worth it if sol washed out in the long-term? >> that's exactly the right question. there's no free lunch. mcdonald's stock would go down. walmart's stock would be pressured. restaurants would go out of business. it would be worth it.
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the additional income, it's creating a soft landing on our economy is the additional stimulus payments being spent by households. these are the engines of the economy. it comes down to this. what kind of nation do we want to live in. do we want to live where the child income tax credit gets stripped out from the infrastructure bill, minimum wage impacts lower and middle-income households and younger people who have been on the wrong side of the economy. of every $100 increase in wealth over the last so years, 50 cents of that $100 has gone to the bottom half of americans. there's always a tension between capital and labor. but capital has been beating the crap out of labor and has resulted in deaths of despair skyrocketing. this is the mwealthiest nation n
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the world. it should be paying people a living wage. the intentions are correct. unions, one union, a massive increase in minimum wage. >> i know how you're voting on today's poll question. a final subject. i tried to give the lay of the land during the introduction of the segment would you compare and contrast what's going on where the writers and the actors with this situation involving the uaw? >> the strikes come down to effectiveness one, the health of the industry, two, the leverage, and their demands. so let's go by each. ups, 20% increase in package delivery. the auto industry is very healthy, record profits. gm and stellantis. and the media industry, the writers strike, disney is at a ten-year low. the number of households with cable have gone from 87% to 47%. so they struck at absolutely the
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wrong time. and let's talk about the demands. the uaw just wants to restore their starting wage to where it would be with inflation. the teamsters demanded a raise of $2.75 and air-conditioning for their drivers. and the writers guild is asking for a pause in technology. that would be the teamsters asking ups to not do any research on automated driving. so we saw the teamsters strike. i believe the uaw will settle. their demands are reasonable. the auto industry has huge incentive. the key question, the reason the writers guild will probably be broken and we're seeing the beginning of the end already, one question, and i'll pose it to you. if you didn't know there was a writers strike, would you know there's a writers strike?
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they have no leverage. >> that's a great point. 30 seconds left. you bummed me out when you say, and you have written this, america is no longer the best place to get rich, but rather to stay rich. final thought? >> if you're a child coming from a top 1%, you're 77 times more likely to get into an elite university. you can look at college attendance still the biggest onramp into the middle class. it scales perfectly to income. kids from 90% have a 90% chance of going to college. do we want -- we like to think america is falling in love with the unrackables and giving everyone a shot, but we're being born to rich parents and being freakishly remarkable. i can prove to any one of us that 99% of the children are not
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in the top 1%. that's not what america is about. we have lost the skrupt. >> by the way, scott galloway, still a capitalist to his core. less anybody misunderstand what you're saying and think you're making a case for socialism. >> i think capitalism is the least bad system of its kind. we need billionaires. the basis of capitalism is unfeddered contact, let companies go out of business. aspire to be wealthy. there's nothing wrong with that. it's wonderful. but at the same time, we need a certain level of em pathy with progressive tax. the top tax rate was 92%. reagan was 77%. by the time he left it was 27%. we have decided to transfer wealth from the top 1%. that's not what america is about.
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capitalism works. i'm not suggesting anything different, but it doesn't work if the bottom don't feel like they have a fair shake. you end up with people on the steps of the capitol. that's not what america is about. >> to be continued. thank you, scott galloway. >> thank you. >> social media reaction from youtube. what do we have? it is not a free market when the ceos are government subsidized. scotts was just making the point. here's today's poll question. can we put this up? i want to know what you think. go to smerconish.com. which is most effective in protecting and promote ing the rights of the working class? is it labor unions? scott is taking the federal government. or the free market. go vote. i'll give you the result as it stands at the end of the program. up ahead, what if i told you there's an end in sight for the country's political po
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polarization. the answer is generational. i'll explain. plus everybody rejoiced at the capture of dallesnelo cavale dalles after a manhunt in pennsylvania. but somehow have questioned the propriority of police posing for a tremendous if i picture. i have an opinion on that. and political cartoonists now drawing cartoons exclusively for my letter. sign up for it at smerconish.com. ♪ oh what a good time we will have ♪ ♪ you can make it happen ♪ ♪ yeah oh ♪ now, try new dietary supplementfrom voltaren for healthy joints.
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will a coming generational shift finally get us out of our polarized ditch? the person who gave me hope is a famed strategy considered essential reading among the washington elite. he's a former clinton administration adviser whose titled included white house political director and deputy legislative director. he's advised over 50 u.s. senators and governors. and in his most recent, he addressed what he called the approach of the political tipping point. he wrote, the country is in the final chapter of the political dominance of the greatest
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generation and the baby boomers. by the end of the decade, their influence will give way to millennials and subsequent generation who is will make up the majority of voters. what is clear is that the generational changing of the guard and continued plolitical reform will act as circuit breakers on the tribal politics that dominated the last several election cycles. when i i asked on my sear yis radio program when the climate of polarization will improve, he had a provocative reply. >> it's when the baby boomers die off, and the largest group in america now are millennials and gen sers. you can see the current generation of politicians with opportunity to govern as they are well into their 80s.
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the country is moving in a completely different place than the baby boomers. >> you know who agrees is senator and former gop presidential hopeful mitt romney. when mitt romney announced he would not be running for reelection, he explained it was time for his generation to hand over the power to the next. >> just having a bunch of guys around the boomers around in the post war era, we're not the right ones to be making the decisions for tomorrow. >> something else, he referenced the work of the director of polling at the harvard kennedy institute. he is the author of the book "fight." and this past june, he wrote a post about the findings of a recent poll under the headline, ring the alarm. he analyzed 18 to 29-year-olds, a cohort that will be mostly gen
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z. among his findings, this group is driven by their values rather than transactional politics. and they are outvoting the generations that proceeded them at a similar age and it isn't even close. he found the group is becoming increasingly progressive and they have ab antipathy for the republican party. in 2020, president biden flipped five be the the ground states in large part due to record-level turnout and youth support. voters aged 45 and older, they chose trump in arizona, georgia, michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin. president biden won the under 30 cohort by a 20-point margin. my lel yan voters, it was clear this is no guarantee for democrats that the same pattern will will repeat in 2024 writing nearly every sign that made me confident in youth participation
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in 2018, 2020 and 2022 now flashing red. 20 years of directing the harvard youth poll taught me the ground is more fertile for voting when you believe voting makes a difference. he krooiting data young americans are turning away from democrats. the gop is succeeding in moving young hispanics and young white americans are least likely to be democrats and most likely to vote. both parties will have to reconfigure as the torch gets passed. joining me is a professor of psychology at san diego state university. she's the author of both books. doctor, nice to see you again. what determines our views? is it age or the generation to
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which we belong? >> it's both. people do tend to become more conservative as they get older. but there is also a generational influence. there's some interesting research to suggest that a generation tends to lean in the direction of whatever popular president there was when they were adolescents or young adults. so for millennials, that's going to be obama. so my lel yans tend to lean democratic, but there's another generation that was almost completely left out in that discussion that you mentioned. that's gent x. gen x tends to lean republican because they came of age in the reagan era. >> i was asking doug not who wins in the long-term as between r's and d's, but when the
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climate of incivility is over. to that he said when the boomers die off. respond to than that. >> well, again, he's pretty much completely forgotten about gen x. gen x is just as polarized as all of the other generations. so when you consider some of the politicians in this category say one example, ron desantis, another, ted cruz, plenty of polarization to go around with gen x. >> this is a morbid conversation, so i'm not rooting for an ideology. i want people to compromise. is it when x and boomers are no longer gone and now it's z and my ylel yans, they are finally n
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control. now we have a return to civility and compromise. >> i wish. but let's take the youngest group we have good data on. one of the big national surveys of high school seniors, and that's going to be 18-year-olds, right as they start voting. so high school seniors have increasingly said that they are very conservative or very liberal. so there's more at the extremes of political belief as time as gone on. the latest data we have from 2021, the numbers were at all-time highs. gen z is also polarized just like the rest of the electorate. >> the concern that i have as a father of four is that our four have grown up, they are older now, this climate is all they know. we can tell them and they can
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read and learn about a period in the '80s when ronald reagan and tip o'neill could have a cocktail, but all they experienced is the climate in which we're living that's what holds me back from the optimism of thinking they are better than we are and things will get better for society. >> i think that's exactly it. this is the only world that they have ever known. as i have learned in decades researching generational differences, generations don't just wake up and say i'm going to be this way or that way. those changes reflect the c changes in the rest of the culture. generations happen because c cultures change. and one of the ways that our culture and our country is changed is in that direction of greater polarization. not only that there's more people at the extremes and more disagree, but in surveys, democrats are now more likely to say that they feel cold and even
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hate towards republicans. republicans are more likely to say the same about democrats. so there's big levels of not just polarization, but that kind of underlying emotion around politics in the last five to ten years. >> quick final thought. you made reference to this earlier on when you said some tnd to get more conservative as they age. it's great to be young and ideaistic, but when you start earning money, you want to hold on to as you can. that's one of the driving factors in making more folks fiscally conservative. final thought is yours. >> my final thought is this. one thing that might help on some issues is that young adult republicans are fairly progressive, much more progressive than older adult republicans on a lot of issues,
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on a lot of social issues. same-sex marriage comes to mind. they are also more progressive on abortion, on legalizing marijuana, on maternity leave, on transgender people being able to serve in the military. there maybe less polarization around those issues as time goes on, because among younger people, democrats and republicans are not as far apart. >> i would add guns to that list. thank you as always. i appreciate you. >> thank you. what do we have via social media? i am more lub rattle as i get old says mary. we did change over time. most of the nation, i say this repeatedly, you'd never know this from listening to the politicians. i thinks most of the nation tends to be more fiscally conservative and socially progressive rather than the
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strict ideological boundaries that we see replicated on tv. please make sure you're going to smerconish.com and voting. which is most effective in protecting and promoting the rights of the working class? is it the labor unions, the federal government or the free market? up ahead, while everyone is thrilled that police captured a convicted killer, some are questioning the propriety of officers posing for this picture. you'll get my take on that, next. and please be sure to sign up for the daily newsletter. you'll get exclusive political cartoons from today's headlines, like this no label sketch.
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captured fugitive in poor taste? in case of police who put their lives at risk to capture a convicted killer, i don't think so. people around me are sleeping easier now that murder danelo cavalcante, who escaped from prison and was on the lam for 14 day, was finally apprehended in the philly burbs. footage show ed state police an boarder patrol agents posing with their captured target. controversial, yes, but they endured quite an ordeal in getting this. he etscaped connecticut prison y crab walking up a wall. ae he alluded 500 law enforcement officers using both the most sophisticated and the most rudimentary means of tracking him down. he was tracked by a dea plane using thermal imaging. officers then secured the area and released a border patrol dog, who subdued him. the deputy u.s. marshal told "usa today" that danelo cavalcante revealed he had move
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ed only under the cover of night, he had hunkered around thick vegetation, traveled along tree lines and had gone so far as to bury his own fee call matter. he found watermelon growing in the brush. what about the victory lap photograph that the cops took with danelo cavalcante? the u.s. marshals and atf said none of their agents are in the picture. a journalist and community organizeer called the picture rem any sent of the photos to come out of soldiers posing with iraqi detainees. and a professor compared it to a trophy photo that hunters take after their capture they prey. one said this to cnn. >> i'm not a fan of that sort of thing. be professional. you got him in custody. do your job.
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the rest of that stuff, save for some other place. >> but pennsylvania state police lieutenant was dismissive of the criticism. >> i'm aware there was a photo-op taken out there. those men and women worked amazingly hard through some very trying circumstances. they are proud of their work. i'm not bothered by the fact that they took a photograph with him in custody. they are proud of their work. they kept the community safe. i say thanks to them and good job. >> i'm with colonel on this willing to give these officers a pass. pit don't want to set a precedent with it. it would be wrong if the norm would be to celebrating with trophy photos, but in this case where law enforcement endured 9 0 degree temperatures while working around the clock to capture a man who armed himself and convicted of stabbing his girlfriend nearly 40 times in front of her kids, i think these officers choice to make a somber remembrance can be overlooked.
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up next, this secret service agent who was with president and jacqueline kennedy in dallas 60 years ago has now publish ed a book that makes a new claim can to the single or magic bullet theory. so what really happened? i'll ask the author of the book. and i want to remind you. make shoour you're going to smerconish.com and voting on the poll question. which is most effective in promoting the rights of the working class? labor unions, the federal government or the free market? think again. flex any style... with hairspray ththat flexes with you. new trtresemmé hairspray. ♪ don't let student loan debt hold you back. fi at sofi.com. you could save thousands and get to your goals faster. sofi. get your mon right.
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published next month. he's now 88 and shares a new account of that day that some say up ends the long-held single bullet theory. in its final report, they decided a single bullet fire d that day recovered nearly intact had struck the president from behind, exited from the front of his throat and went on to hit governor john connolly in multiple places. sketices who thought it unlikely a single bullet could do all of that and be in such good condition called it the magic bullet theory. part of the reason investigators came to that conclusion was a bullet found on a stretch er believed to have been holding john connolly at at the parkland memorial hospital. it was assumed had had it exited cohn lu's body during efforts to save his life. this is now disputed. after the motorcade arrived, he found the bullet lodged in the back of the seat behind where jacqueline kennedy was sitting in the presidential limousine. he says in a moment, he grabbed
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it to thwart the press and souvenir hunters. he says he ended up putting it on the president's stretcher next to his feet. he told this to jake tapper. >> i thought this is the perfect place to leave the bullet. it should be with the president's body. it's an important piece of evidence. this was the opportunity to leave it. >> he believes in the confusion, somehow that bullet wound up on connolly's stretcher. joining me to discuss is jared posner, who wrote the best seller "case closed." so a parkland hospital building engineer named darrin tomlinson found the bullet on the stretcher amid all this chaos and he is interviewed by commission staff attorney, who goes on to a senate career.
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but here's the important part he was asked was it stretcher a or stretch er b and he testified h couldn't be positive. so how much does this new account really change our understanding? >> it doesn't. i have been looking at this. i gave paul the benefit of the doubt. i said his account has to be taken seriously. it does. he was there. but the more you look at his statements and interviews, you realize that he put that bullet on a stretcher and then 90 minutes after the assassination, you have this chief engineer walking town the hallway bumping into one of two stretchers, one belonged to the governor and one to a young boy who was rushed to the hospital for emergency treatment around the same time. that bullet is the single bullet. it is the one that he picked up. so i think the key here is that lan dispicked up a bullet, put it on a stretcher. now he's trying to make it sound
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more important by saying he put it on kennedy's stretcher. we're dealing with 60-year-old memories in that case. >> does it really, regardless of which strcher he found it on, does it really alter what happened with the trajectory, the path, the damage done by that one bullet? >> not at all. the single bullet remains intact completely. ballistic missiles has proven in 1993 and '94, it's been studied repeatedly. the commission when they came with the idea was a theory they couldn't prove it. but later science evolves now. what the account does if he was right is opens up the possibility there was another bullet that somebody fired a bullet at the presidential lumbar moye. instead of going into anybody, it just plopped on the back for him to find. the amazing thing is a what exposes his story is that another secret service agent, we all remember throwing himself on the back of the car, as the car is zooming out of the splaz.
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he's on the record saying in 2014, 9 years ago, paul came to him and said i picked up the bullet. i put it in my pocket. i later put it on a gurney as we were leaving the hospital. that story grew in scope, size and drama as he was trying to sell a book deal, which he now has coming out in october. i believe the original story of anything he told, and that's the one we should focus on. >> he also provided an account closer in time to the incident that is contradicted by the version that he's sharing today. i'm not casting aspersions on his account. i believe having watched him that he believes what he's now saying. take me off the hook here and react to what i'm offering. >> no question. he's absolutely sincere. he believes it. but we have many instances in which individuals were witnesses to traumatic events later read accounts or see documentaries and their new memories become
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part of their old memories they could pass a lie detector test. they just happen to be wrong. and here we're dealing with somebody who never dependent kept a diary or a journal. he didn't have details that he says i can refer back to that. what he's done is made these two statements a week after the case happened after the assassination, and 60 years later, he's now telling us how his memory got better. we all know, unfortunately, that's just not how happens. >> some social media on this subject. stick around. i might ask for your assistance. what do we have? doesn't make sense, says michael. why would you lay a bullet down on the table next to the president as a secret service officer you should at least have the decency to report it to the proper authorities. ge gerald, you say what? >> that's the part of the story we're not talking about. imagine an assassination today. obama, trump, biden, we found out that a secret service agent
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found a whole bullet where the president's body was and then took the bullet, put it in their pocket and later put it down on a gurney and didn't tell authorities investigating the case. the shame of this story is he didn't come out with this story decades ago when it could have been investigated, when everyone was alive. now we'll be left with a bit of mystery because he's telling it so late. >> right that's the one thing i know for sure is that this will now keep alive forever the cottage industry of conspiracy of how the kennedy assassination. >> that's true. we have been waiting for documents to come out of the national archives, we thought that would be the big story. it turns out to be an eyewitness account if an 80-year-old with new recollections. that will keep the case coming in terms of the debate for decades to come. >> thank you. >> thank you, michael.
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here's the result of today's poll question, at smerconish.com. pretty decisive. wow. which is most protective in protecting and promoting the rights of the working class, 58%, approaching 30,000 votes are saying labor unions. scott galway was my guest in the first portion of the program and he said will is only one union that could benefit the working class and that's the federal government, keep voting on that, maybe the results will change. here is some of the social media reaction that came in during the course of today's program. all three options serve their purpose and are not mutually exclusive. i agree with that. the free market creates the job. the government ensures reasonable work days and controls use of workers and unions where membership has dropped over the years protect those in specific industries. jack hoffman, maybe i should have had an additional choice which is all of the above. then i would have had to have yet another choice, which would have been none of the above. here is more social media
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reaction from today's program. thanks for mentioning gen x. we are often left out of the conversation but then again, we're used to it. well, right, gen z and millennials are what captured the attention of the academics that i was making reference to, who were saying hey, when these folks get in charge, then things are going to change, and it will be interesting to see whether that is the case, but you're right in saying you have gen x between the boomers and the younkers, the millennials, a lot to keep track, isn't it. one more social media reaction. love looking at all of these. it was absurd. para-military posing, with it -- you're making -- you're making him out to be like a synthetic figure. the guy is a thurderror. in fact, i think is a two-time murder. i think he murdered somebody in brazil and murdered someone here. his girlfriend, in front of her
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kids, in pennsylvania and you know how long the jury was out in that case? the jury was out in that case 15 minutes. i think it was like a chester county record. so screw him. no sympathy. and if the cops want to take a picture in this instance, god bless them. see you next week. happy and healthy new year if you're celebrating. and profoffered by his old backup qb. and if we proffer it, we k know you'll proffer it to. have you been behind me this whole time? yep. [announcer] if you're thinking about earning your degree online, snhu can help you get there. - i felt supported throughout the whole process, even from e first call. [graduate] madvisors consistently reached out and guided me along the way. - it was like i was talking to a friend, - the instructors were very helpful with everything that i was going through. [announcer] we'll be with you from day one to graduation to your dream job. ♪ it all starts the moment you find your program. [announcer] go to snhu.edu to get started.
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