think gotten some real results. both with russia and now with iran. think about this. the president of iran is in new york right now. he just arrived for the u.n. general assembly. president biden is in new york right now. they will not talk. they will not meet. they will not run across each other. and that tells you a lot about just how broken the relationship is now. and until that gets solved we're not going to solve the larger problem. >> thank you both for being with us throughout the morning on this breaking news. we here at cnn will keep you posted all day as this plane lands in qatar and takes off for the united states and when those americans get home. >> we'll be watching that, and you can watch that. cnn news central starts now. we begin with breaking news. a homecoming more than five

years in the making. five americans wrongfully detained in iran are now on a plane and it's just taken off from tehran on their way to freedom. we're there headed just next, details on all this and the deal that was made that led to their release. also this hour, one of donald trump's codefendants heads to court. jeffrey clark, the former justice department official, now arguing why his case should move out of georgia and into federal court. a sheriff's deputy ambushed and killed. a reward now offered to help find the suspect as a clue emerges they hope will lead to an arrest. i'm john berman with sara sidner and kate bolduan. this is cnn news central. just moments ago, a qatari jet carrying five americans imprisoned in iran took off from

tehran and is tet to arrive in doha, qatar. three have all been imprisoned for more than five years. the identities of two other americans in the deal have not yet been released. it's all part of a complex u.s./iran deal involving the release of $6 billion in previously frozen iranian funds. the money was held in restricted accounts in south korea and transferred to restricted accounts in qatar. sources tell us the funds come from oil sales that were allowed and placed into accounts set up under the trump administration. biden administration officials say that iran will only be able to use that money on humanitarian purchases and that every transaction made will be monitored by the u.s. treasury department. the deal also includes the release of five iranian nationals who have been in u.s. custody. cnn's natasha bertrand is in washington for us. but we want to start with our becky anderson, who is in doha,

qatar. becky, first of all, do we have a sense of the timing of when these five americans are going to land there in doha? being they have just, we now learned, left tehran. >> that's right. we have just had the first official confirmation, both from the qatari side and the u.s. side that those five u.s. detainees plus two family members are wheels up in the air, and out of tehran airport, inbound for doha. this airport in doha, the tarmac is just behind me here. and they will be expected within the next couple of hours. the flight time generally within about two hours. they will be met by an american delegation, the delegation which has been working with the qataris indirectly of course with the iranians, the u.s. and iran obviously not in direct negotiations but the qataris have mediated these negotiations

and the americans who will be here on the ground to welcome those five wrongly detained american citizens will be here on the ground in about a couple hours from now. and this is, i think we can genuinely say with our hands on our hearts, assuming nothing else goes wrong, this is the beginning of the end of what has been a years-long nightmare, not least for the first name that you described, just at the top of this show. he's been detained since 2015, when he was first picked up by the iranian authorities. charged in 2016 of colluding with a hostile government and has been inside a prison, a notorious iranian prison in tehran since then. he would be today the longest serving or the longest held

american prisoner in iran. along with his mother, he's now wheels up in the air on his way to doha here. not clear how long the detainees, the former detainees now, will be on the ground here. one assumes the americans will get them processed here and out the door as quickly as possible because there will be of course family who cannot wait to see them stateside. the end of it seems, the end of a physical and mental anguish for years for these people. two remain unidentified as of yet. their names withheld by their families. >> there's a great deal of excitement and hope on the part of the families. i know you'll be there throughout. we expect they'll land during our show so we'll be checking in with you. thank you for your reporting on this. i want to go now to natasha bertrand. can you give us some sense of how the deal all came together?

you know, that man had been in prison for more than eight years, some others for five years. how did this all happen? >> this is a deal that the administration has been pursuing for over two years now. a deal to get those americans out of prison in iran. the contours of this deal really started taking shape about six to seven months ago, when negotiations really began in earnest in qatar between the u.s. and iran, but importantly, not directly. not face-to-face. the qataris were really key intermediaries between the u.s. and iranians because obviously, the u.s. and iran don't have direct diplomatic relations. a lot of back channeling, a lot of use of intermediaries here culminated in this deal, the first movement of which we saw last month when iran moved to move four of those americans out of prison and into house arrest. one had already been on house arrest, and then of course, we saw the secretary of state issue a waiver to allow those $6

billion funds in iranian frozen funds to be transferred to a qatari bank that iran could use for humanitarian purposes. all in service of this larger deal, but look, the administration has received a lot of backlash already for the deal they made with the iranians, particularly when it comes to that $6 billion. republicans have really seized on that, equating it to a ransom payment. i want to read you a quote from lindsey graham who said i'm always glad when americans are released from captivity, however, this agreement will entice rogue regimes to take even more americans hostage. the ayatollah and his henchmen are terrorists and represent a terrorist state. the republicans seizing on this, saying this is only going to encourage aron to take more americans prisoner and hostage. the administration telling reporters just last night, previewing this, this is not going to change fundamentally the u.s. relationship with iran. they said, quote, iran is an adversary and a state sponsor of terrorism and we will hold them

accountable wherever possible. s sara. >> thank you so much. also thank you to our becky anderson. kate, i know you spoke to a couple of the daughters of one of the detainees and they were begging that the united states do something today. it's finally happened. >> yeah, the daughters of these americans wrongfully held, the sisters. families have been fighting for years and years to have their voices heard. today is a very, very important day, as sara was just discussing, the identities of two of the americans are not clear. we do know quite a bit and have learned about three of them. semak narasi is the longest held prisoner, wrongfully detabed for more than eight years. he was arrested in 2015 while on a business trip to iran. at the time, the u.n. called his arrest an arbitrary detention. in june of last year, he wrote an opinion piece for "the new york times" describing his life behind bars, inside the

notorious prison. saying he was kept in solitary continement for the first 27 months of his sentence and also describing it this way, often kept in a bare closet sized room, i slept in the floor, received food from under the dog like a dog. i endured unutterable indignities during that time. just a new months ago, he took the unprecedented step of speaking to cnn from inside prison. >> honestly, the other hostages and i desperately need president biden to finally hear us out, to finally hear our cry for help and bring us home. and i suppose desperate times call for desperate measures. so this is a desperate measure. i am clearly nervous. >> and for a time, it wasn't just him. his father was also arrested in iran in 2015 after flying there to advocate for his son's release. he was eventually set free about

a year ago due to medical concerns. also held there for years alongside him are u.s. citizens businessman ahmad shargy and environmentalist. both of them arrested in 2018. shargi's story i have been following for years. he was traveling with his wife. two years later without trial, he's convicted of espionage and the u.s. declared him wrongfully detained at the time. his wife was able to make it home and since then along with their two daughters and his sister, they have been fighting for his release ever since. morad tabaz was also convicted of espionage without evidence. his daughter said he's been through cancer, had covid three sometimes while suffering inside the iranian prison and she spoke with me last month. >> there's a human on the other side. this is a father, a brother. they're sons, husbands, and it's been years, six years, almost six years for us that we haven't seen them, and it's so

important, aside of all the speculations, to remember they're human beings and their families are waiting for them. >> wrongfully detained americans, john, wrapped up in horrible politics. geopolitics and these families now on the precipice of the biggest day of their lives. >> it means so much to these families. there is no debate there. thank you so much. with me now, cnn political and national security analyst david sanger and nic robertson is with us. what should we read into the timing of this? why now? >> great question. it's not entirely clear, because it's not as if there are other diplomatic breakthroughs about to happen with iran. in fact, we have been told that this is not one of those cases where releasing prisoners is a confidence building measure to something else. but the iranians are in desperate economic shape these days. and so the prospect that they would get this $6 billion which was being held in south korea from funds from south korean

purchases of iranian oil years ago. i think it was very attractive to them. it also is the necessary thing to get out of the way if there is to be a bigger relationship. but you know what worries about me as wonderful as the human story is, and boy, what a relief to have them coming out and we all pray that this all works today and all of the choreographed elements have them back in the united states, maybe by tonight. the reality is that the iranian nuclear program since president trump pulled out of it, is now bigger and closer to a weapon than it has ever been. it's turning out that president trump's view that pulling out of this would make the iranians negotiate something better never came to pass. so now the question is, can you have any kind of an open? >> nic, let's continue on that point for a second. we just did learn from the biden administration that they are

imposing new sanctions on iran. so as soon as they got word, basically, that these five prisoners were on the plane on the way out, they issued an announcement that new sanctions, in this case, on the ministry of intelligence and former iranian leader, there are new sanctions there. given that announcement and the clear desire to see publicly tough on iran, what do you read in to the greater u.s./iranian relationship? >> i think it's exactly as david describes it. there are still huge issues, and these new sanctions announced today, they're not out of the blue. this is not -- this is not to have on the one hand the release and then these sanctions. just last week, more sanctions, u.s. put sanctions on 25 iranian individuals from the irgc, from the law enforcement. the head of prisons as well. there's been a very public, you know, sound from the west, from

the united states and others, that iran is still far from working its way into the good books. and indeed, to david's point about the nuclear arms inspectors, we had the head of the international atomic energy agency just at the end of the last week go very publicly, with very tough diplomatic language saying one-third of all his inspectors have effectively been banned from iran. his most experienced inspectors in iran banned from going to iran to do their job. iran is clearly way outside of compliance on the original nuclear deal, as david lays out, and indeed is making the situation only worse. so this is a good day for those prisoners being released, but it is not a new day in the relationship with iran. whatsoever. >> where does iran want to be, david, on the world stage? and how is that different perhaps than what their desires were two, three, four years ago?

>> back in the previous administration, that came in and negotiated the 2015 deal, i think that there were members of that iranian regime that saw an opportunity to restore iran to what they view as their rightful place as the biggest regional player in the gulf. and to a historic place there. i don't see that aspiration in the current government. now, the president is here in new york today. he's beginning to see people whenever he comes to this u.n. thing, he has this procession of reporters, columnists, think tankers who come in, but he has yet to sort of lay out a real vision of where he wants to go take iran. and frankly, the kind of build-up they're doing on the nuclear program, throwing out or barring these inspectors from coming in, doesn't seem to me like somebody who has a plan to

go get these issues solved. >> obviously providing arms, drones to russia in their effort overukraine doesn't play well on the world stage either. >> absolutely. >> our thanks to both of you. >> there are a lot of moving parts. we're going to be hearing from the white house later this hour, expected to hear from john kirby, the spokesperson for the national security council. national security council coordinator. we'll hear from him. he's been front and center on this issue of the negotiations over the wrongfully detained americans, and also as just mentioned, the biden administration is issuing new sanctions against iran following this big day with the release of five americans who have been detained for years now in iran. cnn's arlette saenz has more details on this. what are you learning about these new sanctions? >> reporter: well, kate, i want to note, president biden is currently in new york city where he will be attending the u.n. general assembly meetings a bit later this week.

but we are waiting to see what kind of reaction we might get from president biden himself. of course, this release of these americans from iran comes after months of painstaking negotiations to try to secure their release. the senior administration official has confirmed that those five americans that have been freed as well as two american family members are on a plane back here to -- back to doha at this moment. they eventually will be traveling on from there, here to the united states. but this comes at a time, as the biden administration has really placed a high priority in trying to get detained americans across the world back here home. think about the releases they have coordinated with venezuela and some with russia. there are still some americans in russia at this moment, but this deal is already earning kritdicism from gop lawmakers and a 2024 presidential candidate.

they have likened this payment to iran as a ransom payment. of course, the administration has pushed back on those critics saying these are funds that will only be used for humanitarian purposes, they will be monitored by the treasury department. additionally, the u.s. is issuing those new sanctions on iran today. a few of those details include that they will be on former iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad as well as the intelligence service of iran. the white house add this time, we're still waiting to get that confirmation from president biden but this is a hopeful step for those families who have seen their loved ones detained in iran now, some for eight years. >> arlette saenz at the white house, thank you. sara. all right, minutes from now, one of donald trump's codefendants in the georgia election case, former doj attorney jeffrey clark will argue that he should have his case moved to federal court, an argument that has been made by mark meadows and lost. we'll take you there live.

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>> the most senior lawyers in your own administration and on your campaign told you that after you lost more than 60 legal challenges that it was over. why did you ignore them and decide to listen to a new outside group? >> because i didn't respect them. >> were you calling the shots then, mr. president, ultimately? >> as to whether or not where believed it was rigged, sure? it was my decision, but i listened to some people. some people said that. >> let's get over to katelyn polantz in atlanta for us. let's talk about jeffrey clark and the case he's going to be trying to make today. what are you expecting? >> reporter: well, this is a case to watch. this is the second time we're having a hearing like this before judge jones at the federal courthouse in atlanta. and all of the questions around this particular case for jeffrey clark as well as for mark meadows and for others are about how much protection federal officials can have whenever a state chooses to bring charges

against them. in this case, jeffrey clark is charged along with 18 others including donald trump. it's very, very cllikely donald trump would be filing something similar to this, trying to get his case moved from state court to federal court. when we were here before, the question was were the actions after twenty about politics or official duties. the question today is a little different, how far state prosecutors is look under the hood of what a federal agency is doing and what its employees are doing and can they bring charges around what jeffrey clark was doing at the time after the election he was trying to get his superiors to write a letter to the state of georgia to send the letter to georgia to essentially kick up this idea of election fraud that just wasn't founded at that time. and the prosecutors here in georgia, they say he didn't have the facts to support that. he was being told within the department of justice hetient be doing that and he was having

unauthorized contact, even though he was an official in the trump administration, he was talking to trump and others directly whom he shouldn't have. so all of that is going to be on the table today. but there is a really big question here, not just for clark but for trump, on how much there is a divide between a state case like this and the federal government. one person who has stuck up for jeffrey clark so far, a reagan era attorney general. he wrote to the court already and he wrote the prosecution of the president and an aag assistant attorney general, clark, is a major affront to federal supremacy. never before seen in the history of our country, invoking part of the constitution called the supremacy clause that gives the federal government a lot of authority and protection from states, and you know, the other thing on the docket today is there's a question of whether jeffrey clark will testify. the last time we were here, mark meadows, he testified under oath about what his role was as the chief of staff at the white house after the 2020 election. clark, we're not sure if he's

going to testify. i did see his attorney. i asked if clark would take the stand. he said that's for me to know and you to find out. the hearing will be start igin just a few minutes. >> glad you're there. thank you so much. we'll be following up as this plays out. joining us now, gene rossi, former assistant u.s. attorney for the eastern district of virginia. thank you for being here. i want to start with what we heard from donald trump. he says he doesn't respect the attorneys who were telling him he lost, and that it was his decision to go forward with this idea that the 2020 election was stolen. if you were prosecuting this case, how do you use those comments? and will they hurt him in his defense? >> well, number one, i would use it if i were a prosecutor. number two, they do hurt him. here's why, sara. when you are putting forth a reliance on counsel defense, whether it's a criminal tax case

or statute that involves willfulness and you're talking to your lawyers about whether a statute applies to you or whether your conduct is appropriate, you can rely on counsel. and that is an excellent defense in front of a jury. at least could get one juror to say not guilty. but what mr. trump did yesterday in that interview is he didn't just shoot one foot, he shot both feet. he just destroyed any argument that he could say i relied on attorneys. what he was doing, this is what i would argue as a prosecutor, he was forum shopping. he was trying to find the attorney that would agree with his perverted view of the big lie, and you had attorney general barr said no fraud. you had rosen, the acting a.g., no fraud. donohue, the deputy attorney general, all these brilliant guys saying there's nothing there, mr. president. and he was looking for, i hate

to say it, he was looking for the sycophant, jeffrey clark, who desperately wanted to be acting attorney general in the last ten days of the administration. >> yeah, really interesting the way you put it, that he shot himself in your view in both feet. i want to move on to another case we're seeing play out in court today. in georgia, former trump white house chief of staff mark meadows lost his case in the same vein to try to get his trial in georgia moved to federal court. now, jeffrey clark is trying to do the same thing. can we just make the assumption that there's going to be a similar result, where the judge will say no, this has to stay in state court? or is this different? will the judge look at all of the facts of that case and decide differently? >> sara, to me, jeffrey clark's argument is worse. mark meadows had some argument, a little bit, not a lot. but what jeffrey clark did was way beyond his role as acting attorney general of the civil division.

i worked at main justice. they have assistant attorney generals that are like big fishes. he was an acting attorney general for the civil division, stay in your lane, dude. you can't go writing letters to state officials about something that isn't occurring. and here's what really offends me, sara. the first paragraph of this letter that they wanted to send to governor kemp, the speaker of the house, and the senate protempof the senate, it starts off with a big lie. and the big lie is this. the doj is investigating voter fraud. that was a total complete fabricated lie. and the other thing in the letter is the letter says that the states have plenary, full, complete role over elections. why is the doj putting their fingers in the pot that's outside your lane, mr. clark? you were not protected by the supremacy clause. >> those are all really

interesting points that now they're trying to use the supremacy clause in a different way in the case. let me ask you now a question about hunter biden. he has been charged with other things after his case was thrown out. and now he's suing the internal revenue service, alleging that the agency legally released his tax information and that it failed to really protect his private records. does he have a case? >> well, under title 26, 6103, i did this for 11 years, you're protected from the disclosure of your returns. however, if there is a investigation or proceeding involving your returns, the doj and the irs can use it to investigate or to put forth a position. i don't know if that case has a lot of merit. >> gene rossi, i love that you're giving us all literally the itsy bitsy details of the

case because you know what the codes are in the law. and obviously, you have been a good attorney throughout. thank you so much for coming on and giving us your analysis of all the things. john. the breaking news this morning, five americans are on their way home after being imprisoned in iran. john kirby from the national security council, will be with us live.

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a huge moment that comes after months and months of intensive negotiations by the biden administration and years of pleading by the families of these u.s. citizens, not without controversy. joining us to discuss is john kirby. thank you very much for coming in on what is potentially a momentous day. do you -- they're not out of the air space yet, is what we would assume. we know they're expected to land in qatar soon. do you see this as a done deal, what we're looking at today? >> none of us are going to breathe completely easy until we have them back on u.s. soil and with their families. the job is not done until they're reunited. that said, this is a significant development. they're in the air, on their way to qatar. we expect them to land in about an hour or so and then they'll be making their way back to the united states. we're all very, very happy. >> they're still in the custody

of iran, so i don't assume you have had eyes and ears on them. of course, one wonders what's the first thing, their mood, their feeling, anything they have said so far. we don't have a window. >> don't have a window yet in terms of their attitudes. they're on the plane and left tehran. they're not in iranian custody on the plane, but we haven't gotten a sense of how they're doing. i can only imagine they all must be relieved. >> big questions come with this. why now? what was the thing that pushed this over the finish line? >> there wasn't a why now. as you mentioned in the opening, the result of months and months of hard, hard work by our diplomats, particularly at the state department, into bringing this about. it just took this long to kind of get the wheels in motion. but the release itself wasn't timed to any one particular date or week or anything like that. >> the sanctions, we just learned of new sanctions against iran's minister of intelligence and the former iranian president. are these sanctions connected to

the release? >> they're connected to the wrongful detention of iamerican citizens in iran. this would apply to these five folks and others that have been wrongfully detained in iran. >> why announce them now? is there any concern that this could upset what is not yet complete? they're not in the clear quite yet. hearing this announcement, should someone be concerned this could throw things up in the air? >> we don't believe that will be the case, that these sanctions are going to somehow mess up this particular deal. all this was carefully choreographed and i think it sends a strong signal to tehran that we take this very seriously, and we will continue to take it seriously and hold iran accountable. >> of the iranian nationals that are expected to be released, john, as part of the agreement, the iranian foreign ministry said two are expected to remain in the united states. how does that work in. >> that's correct. we don't have all the details nailed down in terms of how they will stay in the united states. that's really injustice

department's taking a look at that. one will go to a third country because of family issues, and only two of the five that were part of the prisoner exchange will be making their way back to iran. >> should that concern anyone that they will be staying here? >> i think again, we're going to work this out with the justice department. based on the kinds of crimes they were charged with, i don't think there's any cause for the american people to be concerned about that. >> does this mark, this agreement, do you see this or should anyone see this as marking onfreezing of relations with iran in any way? does this mark any change in the relationship? >> sadly, no. look, we're still going to deal with iran's destabilizing behaviors. we added to the military presence in the gulf region. we have continued to sanction iran for other destabilizing activities. they'll still providing drones to russia, posing a threat to maritime shipping in the gulf. we're going to hold them

accountable for all of that. i don't think we should look at this as some sort of confidence building measure to a better relationship with iran. now look, if iran takes steps to destabilize -- to stop their destabilizing behavior and behave as a better actor in the region, all that is to the good, but we secured this deal simply to secure this deal, to get these five americans home. it was not orchestrated as some way of reproachment. >> we have talked about this in the past with iran, siloing. any nuclear negotiations versus this. it does, just for an average american, it seems hard to see these things as siloed. how do you keep them separate because what's we're looking at now as you well know is iran is further along and closer to a nuclear weapon than ever before. >> sometimes in diplomacy, kate, you get what you can get. and you work on what you can achieve. in this case, our focus was

squarely on these americans and those families that are waiting for them. and it's not unlike the way we deal with other countries that detain americans wrongfully. you work on that, solving that problem. and if it could lead or does lead to a better relation or increased diplomacy efforts in another area, that's all to the good, but you don't hinge it to that. you don't want to tie americans coming home where they belong in the first place, to some sort of larger diplomatic effort. that would be a difficult place to be in terms of setting a precedent for future. >> you know, we have talked about this before, the precedent that critics of this agreement or any kind of negotiation in this way have of what they're looking at. what iran wants is its money. they have $6 billion that they gain access to for humanitarian purposes. what can the united states do if they're not using this for food, for medicine, for bad reasons? >> lock it back down. it's important to remember,

kate, that the regime doesn't get the money. they can request or withdraw for humanitarian goods, agriculture products, medical supplies, food. we'll run a process through which those goods are contracted for. the iranians don't even get to make the contracts. we'll make sure the contracts are let with vendors we know we can trust and that material will be delivered to the iranian people. the regime does not get hands on this money. >> lingering question remains, is iran more or less likely to wrongfully detain another american citizen? take them hostage, because of this deal? >> sadly, this has been a behavior that iran has been participating in for decades now. and so i can't perfectly predict whether they'll do it again or not, which is why quite frankly the state department has been so adamant about warning americans and dual nationals in particular because the iranians don't regard dual nationals as anything other than americans. so there's a real risk here.

we have been very clear about warning people not to go to iran. and if you're in iran and have an american passport, you ought to look at leaving. that's why they added a designation for countries to warn americans if you're going to travel, know what the risks are. >> the control room got in my ear to say we have new video of the u.s. citizens at the tehran airport getting on the plane. you can see it, looks like a group of people getting on the plane from iranian state media. we're told the control room is telling me, that looks -- it looks like this is morad tahbaz. it almost looks like to me that looks like emad sharghi getting on the plane. this would be the moment of their departure. >> sure looks authentic. >> it does. >> that's just wonderful. my goodness, a great image, to see them getting on that airplane and getting on their way to freedom. you know, we were able to get two of their family members as well. >> tell me about that. >> two family members of --

>> was it siamak's mother? >> i don't know exactly who they're attached to. they weren't allowed to leave, even though they weren't being detained or imprisoned, they weren't allowed to leave. we actually got seven americans out of iran. >> finally, you represent -- you speak for national security issues for the white house, for this administration. how is u.s. national security better today because of this deal and not worse off as i have heard many republicans say? >> first of all, what's really better off are five families. i think that's really important to remember. number two, as i said earlier, well, we just executed more sanctions on entities in iran today, spiecifically for the offense of wrongfully detained americans and we upped our military presence in the gulf region, we added some additional sanctions on iran a few days go. we're holding iran to account and we're mindful of our national security interests in

the region and we're doing everything to protect our troops, interests, allies and partners in that part of the world. no one should take away from today's events any idea that we're somehow turning a blind eye to what iran is doing. quite the contrary. >> what we're seeing as we just saw in that video from iran, are americans on their way home and families who are going to probably breathe a sigh of relief for had first time in more than eight years for one of those families. john kirby, thank you so much for coming in. sara. >> a great interview, kate. this morning, the united autoworkers union and automakers are back at the negotiating table. are there any signs of progress? that's ahead. conquer 202000-word essays. conquer a 6 course menu.

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this morning, the united auto workers returned with stellantis and gm and ford to return to the bargaining table. right now, the strike is targeting three plants one in michigan, ohio and what are you seeing there, vanessa yurkovech?

>> i wanted to ask what the mood was like for today when it is day four? >> well, people are optimistic that the local leadership and the bargaining committee can come to an agreement with the ford motor company and the big three, and the feeling is worrisome, and people are worried about their families and future, and have a significant pay gap in between some of the workers that they need to close up. people are worried about the futures and we are out here fighting for our families will and our homes. >> reporter: describe why it is that the wages that you get today do not match up with the profits of the company and do not match with what you are doing inside of here every day? >> well, when the big three were going through the bankruptcy, a lot of the employees gave up concessions to help ford motor company through, and with the cost of inflation, it is 15, 20 years since some of the people have had a raise, and they are trying get back to where they

should have been the whole time. they are not asking for so much, but some things they gave up in the past. >> thank you, david masters, for your time this morning. john n the next few days or so, we will have some officials from the white house, acting white house secretary julie su and gene spurling to try to get these negotiations to come forward to get to a deal, but we know that uaw president shawn fain does not want the white house involved in the ne gosch yashgsgosch -- negotiation, and we are also looking at a ford plant there in canada that may add 400 workers there and shutdown three plants there, which is going to have a greater impact on the company than this one plant here in

michigan. john? >> vanessa yurkevich, right next to the picket line, and very good to hear from someone who is there. thank you. and now, house speaker kevin mccarthy has an agreement in hand to stop a government shutdown, but it is not clear if he has enough votes to stop this, and whether his own speakership is hanging in the balance.

this morning, a government shutdown is hanging in the balance here, and so, too, does the speakership of kevin mccarthy and he thought he had a funding deal last night, but he may not think the same thing this morning. lauren fox is joining us from washington. tell us what happened overnight as these negotiations were ongoing. >> well, sara, about as quickly as this deal came together between a couple of the members of the house freedom caucus and main street caucus, it fell apart. republican lawmakers met on a conference call last night around 8:00 p.m. where the

details of the deal were unveiled, and it is including major funding cuts across the government with exceptions of the department of defense, homeland security, and veterans affairs, but the negotiated deal was not enough for some hardliners who now have more than a dozen conservatives who say they are leaning against voting for this proposal or are already a hard know on this spending proposal, and we should just remind everyone that this is a one-month spending bill. this is not even a larger one-year spending bill which negotiators in the house and sent are going to be coming to terms with, but it is a one month deal with the republican coalition, and even that, they cannot get their arms around right now. now, the leadership is vowing to bring this to the floor as soon as thursday. they are hoping to put on the floor wednesday a separate stand alone defense spending bill that came into the problems last week. a lot of the moving pieces here,

and one thing to keep in mind is that house speaker kevin mccarthy told my colleague morgan remmer is that he is not giving up to try to pass this republican-only spending bill, and he is going to continue to work with his colleague, and he said that some member may not have read it that closely. he is hoping as they get more time to digest the proposal, they will come to rally around it, and they will have to wait and see, and a lot of problems for the gop leadership this morning as they are trying to find the coalition. >> we are less than two weeks away when that bill needs to be funded for the entire government. thank you, lauren fox, for your reporting. kate? all right. first glimpse this hour of the five americans wrongfully detained in iran. you see them here, and this is a shot of them there, siamak namazi, emad sharghi, morad tahbaz, and they are expected to

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