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and back in the arms of their families. a homecoming years in the making after the wrongful detention by iran. the new video and the new reporting. a plea for help. el paso is at capacity, and now on the brink of an even bigger disaster as officials warn a third wave of migrants will flow over the border. in just minutes, president biden arrives here at the united nations to deliver a speech, the whole world watching at this crucial moment for ukraine, and democracy. i'm john berman at the united nations with sara sidner and kate baldouin. all right. happening now right behind me, the 78th session of the united
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nations general assembly. we are waiting to hear from president biden in what could be one of his most important speeches here. at stake, global support for the war effort in ukraine. he is addressing this crowd just a few hours before volodymyr zelenskyy, the president of ukraine will walk into this hall for the very first time since russia invaded his country nearly 600 days ago. obviously both addresses have major implications for president biden, implications here domestically as well as implications abroad, and for president zelenskyy as he is trying to hold on in his country. also such an important day. a dramatic moment for president zelenskyy, but it will be before a diminished audience. missing this week, president emanuel macron of france, prime minister modi of india, and
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vladimir putin and xi jinping. their absences prompted alarm for the director for the international crisis group who said, quote, the situation at the u.n. is now bleak. we are a lot closer to a cliff edge in u.n. diplomacy. with me here at the united nations, cnn's senior white house correspondent kayla tashi, and richard roth. kayla, the president will be walking in here any moment. what will he be saying? >> reporter: well, here are a lot of familiar themes, john. the need for the global community to continue supporting ukraine's defenses against russia, the importance of values in a world where authoritarian regimes are on the rise, and the priority of martiashaling resous around the world, for infrastructure, and climate q goals and while all those things are things president biden has talked about before and on the world stage before, including just weeks ago at the g20, the
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backdrop is different. you mentioned the absences from notable world leaders. that is cast a pall on the audiences. many of these multilateral summits are happening in a way that hasn't happened on the calendar before. there's also some war weariness with countries frustrated that the discussion around ukraine is taking much of the oxygen out of room and there's the fact that president biden is now a candidate for re-election. he's been on the fund-raising circuit here in new york city before and after his appearances here at the u.n., and he's also gotten some notable endorsements from members of the international community. i'm thinking of germany chancellor olaf schulz has said he should win re-election. president biden wants to, you
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know, essentially play the role of the leader of the frooee wor. that's what his advisers hope he will do, and hope he will be able to essentially retake the mantle of global leadership in the absence of many of those other leaders. >> and he says who he will be speaking to. what are you hearing from white house aides on that? is it the people who will be in this hall, the world leaders, or is it to the domestic audience? >> i think it's a little bit of both, but it's primarily the international audience. we've heard that the president will be meeting with five leaders of central asian nations that he hasn't met with before. they're calling it the c5 plus one. they're primarily going to be having a discussion about how they can collectively counter the influence of china in the indo-pacific. we also know that president biden's going to be speaking with the secretary general of the u.n. today. he'll be meeting tomorrow with the president of brazil. they're going to be talking about labor issues and then he'll also be meeting with the prime minister of israel, benjamin netanyahu in their first meeting since israel
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passed its controversial judicial reform laws, but perhaps the biggest meeting this week is not happening here in new york. it's happening thursday at the white house when president biden is going to be hosting ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy, of course. they are trying to gen up even more support for tens of billions of dollars in aid to ukraine. we'll see if that can happen. >> both biden and zelenskyy here today, and they'll do their own things and meet up again back in washington. great to see you. thank you so much. >> no problem. >> let's go to richard roth, our united nations reporter who will be there for this address. what are the expectations inside, richard? >> reporter: the u.s. ambassador last week said the u.s. is reaching out at this u.s. general assembly to engage and dialogue even with people and countries that don't normally agree with the united nations. a lot of talk about the smaller countries. they need money. they want money. the black sea grain deal stalled with russia out of ukraine. it has hurt them. there is a lot of discussion about the rich countries versus the poor countries, north/south,
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this has happened before, and it seems intense now considering the world developments. >> all right. richard roth for us in the united nations. thank you so much. obviously this comes at a crucial moment for ukraine as they are in the midst of this counteroffensive. volodymyr zelenskyy arrived here in new york last night. he was seen meeting with some people here before this major speech today. with me now is former nato supreme ally commander wesley clark. also with me very shortly is my friend, cnn anchor and chief, jim shuto. talk about this moment for ukraine. what volodymyr zelenskyy needs to leave here with, and what president biden wants to help him get this week. >> biden wants to continue
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international support for ukraine, and that's going to be part of his message from the podium today, but president biden knows as do allies in europe, as does zelenskyy, frankly, that that is not rock solid right now, that there's some as you know, republican opposition to continuing support at this level. it's not going anywhere. there is bipartisan support, but the timeline is finite with the election coming up. it's cnn's reporting that that could be the outcome, and what that means is the next year, year and a half or so, no one is expecting, one, either side to get what it wants. they don't expect russia to win certainly, but they don't expect ukraine to gain back all the territory russia has taken and they don't expect either side to want to sit down at the table. russia is waiting out the election, and zelenskyy does not want to give up. i think you'll hear a message
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from biden as well to say, we've got to stick with this, right? as long as it takes, phrase you've heard for soening lo. we'll be with him for as long as it takes, and privately i speak to senior u.s. officials. i spoke to u.s. general milley, and they said, we don't see a victory in this war any time soon for ukraine. >> that date might be changing or that timeline might be reducing. general clark, leaders of great britain, france, china, russia, india not here. so who does president biden need to convince in this hall to sustain the efforts and support for ukraine? >> you need the rest of the brit nations. you need the global south basically behind it. we need support for the sanctions regime. we need understanding for the value of what the united states is doing. what we're saying to the rest of the world is nations can't cross borders and seize territory. that's not permitted in the
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modern world. that's what this fight is about. it's much bigger than ukraine, and so what we need is the support not of 140 nations in the united nations, but 220 nations in the united nations, and they all need to get on the team to pressure russia. we're in competition in africa. we're in competition in asia, and china is out there lurking, trying its own efforts to win friends to undercut the united states and democracy. this is about democracy. it's about global leadership, and it's about the principles of international organization that the united states and the victors of world war ii established through the united nations. it's time to belly up to the bar, and that's what president biden has to convince these lo leaders of. >> and jim, it's interesting. president zelenskyy, this will be his first time in this hall since the russian invasion nearly 600 days ago. he began traveling around the
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world about last december. a little bit before that. first stop here. i mean, that will be a moment. >> no question. it makes a difference to meet in person. he had to do it because of security reasons, and by the way, the war is still going on in ukraine, but to meet in american to take his case to world leaders in person, that can make a difference, but he also knows that he has challenges here, right? challenges in the u.s., challenges in europe, and challenges at home. i spoke to the canadian foreign minister last week and she made a smart point. we talk about political pressures here in the country and say republicans were opposed to say continuing aid. his biggest political block and pressure point are veterans in his country, and not just veterans, but people who have lost veterans in the war. that's a powerful block. he's got to answer to them to say, what has this fight been for, and are we going to kgive p where we are now after all this bloodshed and all this loss? of course, his answer to them is going to be no, and i'm certain she's communicating that same message as he meets with leaders here as well. >> general clark, president
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biden obvious ly has his own domestic concerns. his approval ratings are sagging and there are a lot of people concerned about his age. the rest of the world, how closely are they watching the u.s. election? how closely are they watching president biden the person? >> well, they're watching very closely because really, the world's democracy, the power of democracy, the value, the magnetism of democracy, it really emanates from the united states, and it's not just president biden they're watching, but they're watching what's going on in the u.s. congress. they're watching the dysfunction. they're watching a former president being charged with crimes, and they're looking at all of this and saying, how strong is the united states? how credible is its deterrent? can we trust the united states with the security of our country, and what about the american dollar? what have we put our faith in the dollar? there's a lot riding on this, john, and i want to just say one
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more thing. i think it's been a persistent element of russian disinformation since the president was elected really that he's too old, and, you know, he's only four years older than donald trump, and we keep making age an issue for this president, but really both major contenders are in their 70s, going to be in their 80s if either one is elected in office. so this is a time for americans to look at the performance, not look at the numbers. look at the performance. president biden's got a showcase this morning to demonstrate that, and the whole world's watching. they want american leadership. they're hungry for it. we have to deliver. >> indeed. the whole world is watching. general clark, our thanks to you. jim sciutto, don't go far. we'll get back to the studio. we'll get back to that very
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soon, but we're also tracking this huge story. the tearful reunions, five americans officially free and back on u.s. soil this morning. wrongfully detained in iran for years, they touched down. you see the hugs from their families just before sunrise today. the new details of the release. the new video that we're getting in from just this morning. plus, migrant shelters in the u.s. border city of el paso have been over capacity for weeks. why locals are now warning of being, quote, on the cusp of a third wave. cnn is there. and india has expelled a canadian diplomat after explosive allegations coming from none other than prime minister justin trudeau linking india to the killing of a citizen on canadian soil. we'll be back.
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home at last. five americans freed after being wrongfully detained in iran, touched down on u.s. soil just before sunrise this morning. you take a look. these are their first moments as they're descending the steps. you see namazi taking a deep breath, and this is straight into the arms of their families. here's how the u.s. envoy for hostage affairs described the flight over. >> i can say i probably haven't cried this much since i was a little kid. it was a chance to watch five different people interact, seven people in total interact in a way that was very amazing. this was the first time they have had a chance to talk without being surveilled by the iranian government in years. so to watch them kind of relax, lighten up, share laughs -- >> for sharki and tahbaz, this is their first time back in the united states.
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namazi had been wrongfully detained for eight years. let's get over to natasha b bertram. the images of looking right here, look at shargi, you can't even put words to it, but what more are you learning about their homecoming, and what now is next for them? so >> reporter: so they arrived after a long journey from doha, qatar. they had family and friends waiting on the tarmac, many of them waving american flags as they ran up to greet them, and shargi who you mentioned actually said, i can't believe it. he, of course, is one of those americans who had been imprisoned in iran for five-plus years, and another american, siamak namazi has been gone for eight years. many have not spoken to their
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family or friends in over five years, as long as eight years. this was an emotional homecoming for them landing on u.s. soil after so much time in iranian captivity. now the president's special envoy for hostage affairs, roger c carstens who we just heard from, we urged them to take advantage of the support programs to better allow these americans to reintegrate into society because of course, they have been isolated and in detention for just so long, but he also said that he really encourages them to keep working along with u.s. officials, of course, for the release of american hostages globally, and that he knows that they won't forget about them. in the backdrop of all of this, of course, there have been a lot of questions about what this means for the broader u.s./iranian relationship. does this kind of reopen negotiations between the countries when it comes to other issues like the iran nuclear deal for example? white house official john kirby
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spoke to this last night and he said, look. this release of american prisoners, release of iranian prisoners in exchange, it does not signal that we are prepared to reopen talks on any other issue, particularly the nuclear deal. here's what he said. >> it's important to remember that this deal to get these americans home is a separate issue done in a completely separate environment through a separate set of diplomatic initiatives, not tied at all to the jcpoa. this is not about trying to build some sort of reproachment with iran or get us back into the iran deal. >> reporter: as you have heard, there's been a lot of criticism from republicans about this deal, particularly that $6 billion that iran will now receive to use for humanitarian purposes, but roger carstens, the envoy for hostage affairs, he reiterated that this is, quote, a good deal. kate? >> i'm just stuck watching ahmad
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shargi, his daughters running to him. much more to come on this. sara? the migrant crisis at the southern border is exploding again. officials in el paso say the city is on the cusp of a third wave of migrants and local shelters capacity. the region has seen a spike at the texas/mexico border averaging about 1,200 encounters per day. cnn's ed lavendera is on the ground in el paso. what are you seeing there, and what do officials say they need to be able to handle this influx? >> reporter: well, they are really using all of the homeless shelter capacity and migrant center capacity that nonprofits have set up here that have been set up for many years now, sara, but the numbers that you are seeing here in el paso are not numbers that we have seen since title 42 ended which really de-escalated a lot of this for some time, but we are now as one
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official here is warning, perhaps on the cusp of another wave of migrants here in the city, and it's been a while since you've seen the number of people having to sleep here on the streets. we're just outside one of the shelters that many migrants use here, and as we have been reporting and these officials and city officials have been reporting to us, a lot of these shelters are at capacity, and about 1,200 encounters per day here, and across the southern border, the numbers are up to about 7,000. definitely some of the highest numbers we have seen since the end of title 42 which is causing alarm in many places. why exactly this is happening now is difficult to pinpoint, you know, a lot of this stuff is cyclical in the terms of way migrants move, leaving countries in desperate situations and in their home countries, and also disinformation that cartels use to smuggle people in the journey
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north to the states. regardless of what the reasons are, many people are turning themselves into border patrol agents at the border wall. you might be able to see it behind me over there, and that is an area where a lot of these mie migrants have been arriving and turning themselves in, and getting processed by border patrol agents. there are more than 20,000 migrants in customs and border protection right now. a great deal of concern as to what exactly this means and how long this surge might last. >> yeah. it's a really good picture that you and your photographer are showing us. you're right next to a shelter and yet there are people out there on the streets. those look like blankets that have been given to them from the red cross. thank you so much for your reporting there, ed. appreciate you. kate? coming up still for us, house speaker kevin mccarthy has a mess on his hands over keeping the government funded and open and running, or as one republican put it, it is a clown show. what the infighting is now threatening on capitol hill.
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this will be president zelenskyy's first speech before the united nations general assembly since russia invaded. that will come this afternoon. first though is president biden with the whole world watching, the whole world keenly aware of his political situation here in the united states. they know this could be a turning point in u.s. foreign policy. obviously when all these world leaders gather in one place right behind me, it creates such a security challenge not to mention a traffic nightmare. the traffic is one thing. the security, an altogether different operation, but it is a challenge that new york city is pretty experienced with. cnn's chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller explains. >> this is a national special security event. we have 170 or so protectees with their spouses we're responsible for protecting. i think it is the largest
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assembly we've hosted. >> reporter: kimberly cheadle is the director of the secret service, the agency that protects the president of the united states, but is also responsible for protecting every world leader attending the united nations general assembly. the nypd is a key partner with resources on the ground, in the sky, and on the water to protect what is annually the largest gathering of world leaders anywhere on the planet. 151 heads of state, 41 foreign ministers, that's nearly 200 security details. >> their job is to discuss the future of our world, and our job is to make sure they can do it without disruption. >> reporter: at a pier in brooklyn, 315 police cars are gathered to be deployed in the motorcades that will run through the city day and night. that means traffic closures, frozen zones, and detours in the city that's already snarled with
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traffic on a good day. that's a lot of choreography. >> a lot of choreography, but we dance well. we have our federal partners, our intelligence bureau constantly monitoring threats and quite frankly it's new york city. we're always had a threat level one way or the other and we're also prepared to move and protect the city. >> southbound. >> reporter: at the nypd's command center, police access feeds from thousands of cameras, hundreds of license plate readers and even a map that tracks flight patterns and an early warning system in case a plane goes off course, and if there's an incident or attack -- >> immediately this room as you can see, through its ability with our cameras and technology, it would immediately be pumping information out to our incident de commanders in the field as well as keeping the commanders of the nypd informed. >> reporter: at the secret service, a protective intelligence cell scans all active threats, not just to the
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president of the united states, but against any of the world leaders under their protection in new york. >> we're looking at the technological of it, and the human element itself. >> reporter: they have planned and practiced for every scenario. chemical weapons, biological attacks, even a nuclear device coming into the harbor on a ship. this nypd counterterrorism launch is equipped with advanced radiation detection technology. >> so this vessel is part of our fleet with our maritime unit. we actually have three vessels. this has radiation detection equipment in the bow of the vessel that will be able to detect any radiation emanating off of any objects. the strategy is to be able to detect any anomalies and to be able to address that and to check it out and see what it is, and make sure everyone in the area's safe. we want to do that as far out as possible so that we can get a jump on anything and be able to
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clear the area, shut down the waterways, you know, anything that we may have to do to nucn neutralize the threat. >> and john miller is with me here outside the united nations. obviously there were representatives from countries inside this building that are at war with each other. so how does that change the dynamic when you are talking about security? >> world events all ripple to new york and when you bring the players to new york, that magnifies it. you'll remember in 2016, we had bombings on the west side of manhattan during the u.n. general assembly. we were at war at the time. those were spinspired by isis a al qaeda, but you have countries who are sponsors of state terrorism, and you have countries at war, and all that factors into the threat assessment they do for each world leader and how they move them around. >> john miller, thank you very much for all of this. i feel safer standing right next to you after the tutorial you
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just got. sara, back to you. i'm trying to blame john for the traffic. he is saying it's not his fault. >> john berman, it is not. i'm with him and we'll discuss this when you get back into the studio at some point. it will take you all day. all right. now we are coming back to the united states where there are some tensions. they're bum bubbling over at capitol hill over a bill that would fund the government for just one month. it has cleared at least one hurdle, however, there is no guarantee that the speaker of the house is going to be able to push that bill through the house, facing a deadline to avoid that government shutdown. one republican called competing proposals from his colleagues stupidity and a clown show. a funding measure must pass by the end of this month, but mccarthy can only afford to lose four votes without relying on democrats. >> it's hard to pass everything in this place. we start out with a five-seat
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majority. i have one member who's now resigned. i have a couple of members who are out as well. anything we do is pretty tough. >> all right. cnn's lauren fox is joining us now. lauren, i see that you are in the bowels there, waiting for some information. what is happening with this bill, and how close are we to seeing this either not get pushed through or get pushed through? we don't have much time left. >> yeah. one of the points that you heard from house speaker kevin mccarthy yesterday was that his members needed time to read over this proposal. well, this morning is another opportunity for leadership and those who wrote the legislation to walk members through the details of this proposal, but we are told there are now more than a dozen republicans either leaning opposed or planning to vote against this proposal in its current form which leads you to a lot of questions about whether or not republicans are going to have to revise this proposal or whether or not they
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may have to go in a different direction. you're starting to see some cracks within the republican conference as some republicans from swing states say they may just work with their democratic colleagues. they could use a rarely used and arcane procedural step to try to force a vote on the floor, but if they were going to go in that direction, they need to act fast. i asked one of those republicans, representative mike law lawlor, if it's time to move in that direction. >> if the clown show of colleagues that refuse to actually govern does not want to pass the cr, i will do everything we need to, to make sure that a cr passes. the bottom line is this. we're not shutting the government down. these folks don't have a plan. they don't know how to take yes for an answer. they don't know what it is to work as a team. they don't know how to define a win. >> reporter: and sara, this question of how to fund the government for just a month,
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it's important to keep in mind that these republicans are fighting within their own ranks, and you have people, conservatives like byron donalds and matt gaetz basically at each other's throats over this proposal with byron donalds arguing that this is a good proposal that he came up with, and you have people like matt gaetz saying that it's not good enough, so internal sparring happening within the republican side, within the conservative faction. it's a huge mess right now on capitol hill. sara? >> and it is clearly bananas that this is only to fund the government for 31 days which is one month. all right. i know you'll be watching. thank you so much, lauren fox. kate? and to state the obvious, when funding the government and passing budgets and appropriations is the job of congress. sin singularly. joining us for more is democratic congressman from new york, gregory meeks. he's the top democrat on the house foreign affairs committee. let's start where lauren fox's reporting left off, congressman.
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mike lawler, other republicans now talking -- suggesting that they could work with democrats in order to push through a short-term cr in order to keep the government open. are you aware of conversations, any of them, between democrats and republicans to do this? >> no, i'm not. that's not our job, you know. what we see is the maga republicans dysfunctional. we've seen that from day one, from the day that they took 15 times to elect mccarthy to be the speaker. they've done nothing for the two years or year and a half they have been in charge. it's been dysfunctional. they're delusional, and they haven't gotten their act together and who's paying for it is the american people. so i've not heard any of that, kate. we're sitting back and seeing whether or not the republicans can do something for the american people, and i remind you, kate, they talk about the five-vote difference. well, you know, just look at the example of democrats when we were in control.
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we only had a five-vote majority also, but yet we were able to have one of the most substantial congressional achievements in the 117th congress for the american people delivering for the american people, and that's what we stand for right now. we want to continue to deliver for the people while the dysfunctional republicans keep fighting among themselves. >> let me ask you this. you tweeted a couple of days ago about this whole mess which we know it is. you tweeted this. democrats are working to prevent this from happening, meaning a government shutdown. that does or does not in your view include working with a majority of house republicans to avoid an avoidable self-inflicted wound. you said it's not your job, but at some point is it your job to start those conversations? >> when you are the majority in the house, it is your job to get it done. so it's not my job to go get it done. the republicans to my knowledge have not come to democrats.
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they've not talked to us. they generally have had the position that they want it their way or the highway, and if that's the case, we're not going to be able to get anything done. it's not our job to get things done. it's the republicans' job to get things done. >> it seems among republicans, it's less than a shutdown is possible and moving more into the realm of a shutdown is likely. do you think there will be a shutdown of government? >> look, i hope not. i, you know, really, i'm hoping that they come up with something that's reasonable that is on the benefit for the american people. i doubt if that happens because they haven't done it yet. so here we are, sitting on the brink, you know, i've talked to some of my republican friends, and i asked them, what's happening? are we going to have the shutdown or not? i would say the majority of them believe at this point we're headed to a shutdown, but most of them don't know, but it is their responsibility, and this is why, you know, it is important when we are thinking about elections and moving
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forward, whether or not you've got the coalition of folks that can work together on behalf of the american people doing and thinking about the american people, or others that are just fighting among themselves and only thinking about themselves, and i think that's what we're confronted with right now. >> do you think if the government shuts down and this is because of fighting factions within the republican party, do you think kevin mccarthy should lose his speakership over this? >> again, that's a republican issue that they have to deal with. what i know is leader jeffries has us on the democratic side working and thinking collectively and together wanting to do for the american people. we want to deliver for the american people in the same manner that we've done when you were able to pass the five-vote majority in the 117th congress. when you talk about making sure that we had a bipartisan infrastructure bill putting americans to work, reducing the cost of drugs to make sure
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insulin, no more than $35, reducing the reduction -- the inflation rate in the united states of america. doing the people's work, and, you know, kate, on foreign affairs, i've traveled all over the place. i went to europe, and what i have found when we had a recent trip to sweden, finland, and the netherlands, that they are looking at what joe biden did to reduce -- and the democratic congress, to reduce the inflation rate in their countries because we're down and they're still up. so people are looking at what we did and trying to move forward to their countries by following what democrats and joe biden has done here in the united states of america. >> let me ask you as the ranking member on house foreign affairs. president biden is speaking at the u.n. today. president zelenskyy of ukraine will be speaking at the u.n. as well today, and then also coming to washington we'll be meeting with members on capitol hill later this week. do you think his visit --
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zelenskyy's visit this time to washington and to the hill is a critical moment for the future of u.s. support of ukraine given that, well, look what has been taken out of the funding bill that we're talking about in terms of republican -- what republicans are talking about in terms of funding the government, and also just public sentiment. we know that public sentiment at least in some of the latest polling is more against congress approving more funding for ukraine. how important is zelenskyy's visit this time? >> i think his visit as each visit is important. what the people, the heroes of ukraine have been doing to fight to keep their sovereign property, to keep to make sure that the infiltration that vladimir putin has done is stopped. it's important for all of us, and what has happened as a result of joe biden and his
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leadership, you know, the nato is closer together than ever. the eu is closer together than ever, and then even in the asian pacific, you know, unprecedented that japan is talking to south korea and we're working with incumbent governments of indonesia and malaysia and singapore. it's bringing us together because of the values which we have, and that is around the world significantly, and i think you also hear nations -- smaller nations coming on board andn't w -- wanting to be with us, to fight and make a difference and sharing to make sure we save this planet. so joe biden and democrats have done and been a shining example for others to follow bringing the world together. i don't know what the republicans are doing, but history will show that those of us that stand beside president zelenskyy and work and make sure that they're funded will be on the right side of history. there were some americans even
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before the beginning and america entered into world war ii. and this one we don't have to enter any soldiers there, just funding. not any of our men and women giving up their lives, but there were people in congress and others who were against america entering that war. history proved we did the right thing, and we must stay in this for the long haul. this is not a magic wand that's going to be waved and the war will be over tomorrow or anything of that nature. this is a struggle. russia, vladimir putin, is counting on us being weak and divided and not continuing the struggle, and that's why we hear him agreeing with some of our republican friends saying he wants to see if donald trump and the republicans can stay in control because he believes that they will be with him, not with individual countries that share the values that we have. >> congressman greg meeks, thanks for comingen. >> thank you for having me. >> sara? now to the legal battles. one of trump's co-defendants, the former doj official says he
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only casts doubt because he was pressured by donald trump, but will his claims convince a judge to move his case at the state case to the federal courts? the latest on jeffrey clark's bid. that's coming up. ♪ it takes two to make it outta sight ♪ ♪ one, two, get loose now ♪ ♪ it takes two to makake a... ♪ stay two nights and get 5k bonus points. book direct at bestwestern.com. ♪ oh what a good time we will have ♪ ♪ you can make it happen ♪ ♪ yeah oh ♪ now, try new dietary supplements from voltaren for healthy joints.
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to remove boundaries... ( ♪ ) because this game is for everyone. this morning, a federal judge is showing skepticism of whether to allow jeffrey clark to move his case from a state court to federal court and whether he was working in official capacity to write a letter sowing doubt in the 2020 election. he says he is acting under
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trump's direction, but the judge is not so convinced of it and asked for some evidence there from his lawyers and they did not provide any. trump is one of the 18 co-defendants and the results of the requests could have bigger implications for donald trump, and joining us is jim schultz to discuss this. the judge in the courtroom said he was annoyed with couple of issues. one of them was that jeffrey clark didn't show up. and he said that he is not going to take a statement from him to be put into the court record. why didn't he show up to this court process, the court case? >> i have no idea why he wouldn't show as a, you know, even a former department of justice official, officer of the court, i would have recommended that he showed up for that hearing for that same reason,
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right. the judge is going to be expecting him to be showing up to be an officer of the court, a lawyer, and something that the judge expected and not a smart play for him. >> you don't believe it was a smart play, and strategy, but you believe it was not a smart strategy not the show up to court? >> perhaps they were worried a what about the judge would ask him, but i don't know what the strategy might have been there, and maybe he did not want the media attention associated with it as well coming in and out of the courthouse as well. but i don't think it served him well before this judge. >> can i ask you about this issue argued in court which could have, you know, some meaning to donald trump, himself. jeffrey clark's lawyers are arguing that the reason that he did what he did and sent the letter talking about there being an investigation that the doj was doing, which there wasn't
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into the 2020 election there in georgia, and he said, doing it as the direction of the president donald trump at the time, and what do you make of that argument? >> look, he was serving in the capacity as a justice department official at the time. meaning that, he was taking direction from the president, and that, you know, it is well documented that he was in the room, and that the president was pushing doj to do something there, and that the president wanted doj to come out to say something publicly about the corruption related to the election which we all know was not true. so i think that in this particular instance of everyone that is including mark meadows that would make this argument that jeffrey clark has the best shot of making to this federal court which is an uphill battle, because the judge is saying are you acting in the interest of doj or the interest of candidate
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donald trump, and so that is something to balance outside of the scope of what a doj official might normally do, and this is certainly seeming outside of the scope. if i am a judge looking at it, it is outside of the scope as a doj official, and therefore probably keep it in state court. >> i know this is not a legal issue, but as a former doj attorney that you are acting under the pressure of the president, there is supposed to be different branches of government at play here, and for so long, the republicans, donald trump is saying that the doj has been used by the biden administration for example, and this could be a real problem for them, could it is not? >> well, from a political perspective, yes, but from a legal perspective, no. donald trump was the chief executive, commander in chief, and you know, president, oversaw doj and this guy worked at doj, and from the legal perspective, no, but from the political
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perspective, cuts to what trump has been saying. >> thank you. kate? any moment, president biden is set to deliver remarks at the united nations, and we are looking at the entrance where the president is going to be walking very soon. we'll be right back. and it responds to snoring, so you don't have to. so, no more nudging yoyour partner. or sleeping on the e other side... of the house. because the tempur-ergo smart t base acactually detects snoring... ...then automatically adjusts to help reduce it. all night, every night. don't miss our biggest sale of the year, with savings up to $700 on select adjustable mattress sets, and experience the deep, undisturbed rest of tempur-pedic. learn more at tempurpedic.com
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