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up and into his karate students' lives during the pandemic. he helped them not just survive but grow stronger. you said if you are not learning and growing, something is wrong. you say this after doing this for 46 years. how do you inspire your students to take that on, to learn and grow? >> it's like having a pilot light. if that starts to dim, you need to find a way of motivating yourself. sometimes it's hard. i'm not going to quit. i just don't believe in that. i believe in, let's just keep going. see if we can become better than we were today. let's see what tomorrow has in store. >> he has inspired so many. don't miss "the champions for change" special saturday night at 8:00.
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tonight, breaking news. new reporting the former president told an aide not to acknowledge that she knew about classified files he kept at mar-a-lago. with 11 days until the government shuts down why house republicans can't get their act together long enough to stop it. canada says there are credible allegations tieing india to an assassination of one of its citizens. the u.s. is being drawn into the controversy. we begin with breaking news and this quote attributed to the former president. you don't know anything about the boxes. the boxes, of course, being boxes of classified material kept at mar-a-lago. the reporting just hit "the new york times," the headline reads, trump is said to have told aide not to acknowledge she knew of documents. here is the lead. a former assistant to donald j. trump informed investigators that the former president told her to say she didn't know anything about the dboxes
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containing classified documents. her name is molly michael, who first gave her account to abc news. quoting from "the new york times" reporting, she told investigators that mr. trump would write notes to himself on documents that he gave her listing tasks he wanted done. she realized in some cases the dockuments had classified documents. this makes two witnesses with evidence the former president sought to instruct the investigation. the other is that mar-a-lago i.t. worker. joining us now is former january 6 committeed edmember adam kinzinger. how damage could this be? >> could be very damaging. she's an insider. it's a direct statement from the president. shows his intent, as does his
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action with telling her -- or making notes on the back of a classified document. she will be a valuable witness. i suspect this is just a sliver of what she has told them and what she knows. >> congressman, when you hear -- there's nothing that one can be too surprised about, that one hears about the former president. writing notes on classified documents and giving them to an aide, if true, is extraordinary. >> yeah. it's reckless. it's everything we know about donald trump, which is the only thing he cares about is himself. whether it's classified information or not, if that's the convenient paper to grab and write a note, that's what he is going to do. once again, molly michael -- you think of people like cassidy hutchinson, sara matthews, you have these young women in trump's orbit that have the courage to say the right thing. i don't know the whole fstory
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with molly, but for her to say this is very important. this is probably the tip of the iceberg. donald trump could be going away for a long time. it doesn't mean that we are going to convince his current supporters that he has done anything illegal. they will channel on hunter biden or something like that. >> for the person who campaigned about hillary clinton and her email systems and her server, again, just old-school writing notes on classified documents and handing them around, i would say it's unbelievable, but it's actually not. >> it's kind of like if you or i were like, i need something to write something on, and you are fumbling around and you grab a receipt from the grocery store. in this case, you grab a classified document and write a note on it to your aide who doesn't actually have the status to be allowed to look at that document. she's important for a number of reasons. she was a close aide to donald trump both when he was in the
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oval office and her desk was outside and after he left office. there's that continuity. this is direct knowledge rather than hearsay or someone else told me that trump wanted me to do something. this is her conversations with the president. it goes to two possible things. one is the argument the prosecutors will make that he was reckless. the other is the idea that he was telling people in his orbit not to cooperate. for all of those reasons, this could be really important from a legal perspective, even if it won't move the needle politically. >> just from a legal standpoint, what do you make of this? >> anderson, this is potentially devastating evidence for prosecutors and against donald trump. let's consider the source of this evidence. this is molly michael. this is a person who has been as local as it gets to donald trump both when he was in the white house on to now. prosecutors are going to offer up this testimony and say, what possible incentive does this person have to go out of her way to lie to harm donald trump?
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she's going to be a difficult person for donald trump's defense team to cross examine. then let's think about the substance of what the reporting is saying molly michael will testify. which is that donald trump told her straight up, you are to lie to investigators. you are to tell them you know nothing about boxes or documents, which was untrue. that is right down the middle, that's textbook obstruction of justice. that's textbook witness tampering, potentially devastating evidence. >> according to the notes by one of his attorneys, he had indicated that perhaps the attorney could take the boxes back to his hotel or motel room and pluck out the -- the attorney talked about him fingering -- motioning with his fingers, plucking classified -- the not good documents to have out there, take them out, remove them from the chain of evidence. >> yeah. the indictment references a plucking motion. this is not out of nowhere. this is part of a broader
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pattern. if we look at the indictment and what's known, there's really several different lanes of obstruction of justice. one, what you referenced, the effort by donald trump to hide documents from his attorney and to have his attorney hide documents from the fbi, the doj, and the grand jury. second of all, we know that there are new charges relating to the attempt to tamper with the video surveillance system at mar-a-lago. whether that was successful or not, we don't know. we know there was an effort. that's charged in the most recent indictment. now this direct tampering with molly michael, this effort to have her lie to investigators is a third lane. when you take it all together, prosecutors can argue to a jury, this is a pattern, a way of doing business. >> the classified document saga has the case to many of the lawyers we talked to that's considered the most straightforward, clearest to prove. does this revelation -- it seems to bolster that argument. >> it does. one of my reactions when i first
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heard of the story was that the prosecutors seem to know that they weren't being given everything when they prepared their -- to have the fbi go in and seize material, like they had an inside witness. this could be that inside witness. no one could at that time figure out who it might be. she certainly apparently was in a position to know, both during the white house days as well as the early days after he left the white house. this could explain why they did what trump calls the raid. >> if republican lawmakers are largely going to keep slugshrug this off, does it underscore what senator romney said, which is that republicans are too afraid to speak out against trump or they don't care about the constitution? that was coming from mitt romney. >> there's no other conclusion
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you can come to. look, i have been around these folks. they are scared to death of the base. they are scared to death of going to a town hall or a lincoln day dinner and having the base be upset. they have acquiesced to everything donald trump says. it's important when we talk about why is the base supporting donald trump, it's because everybody else that they trust besides donald trump is telling them that this is a witch hunt. it's important to keep in mind with this investigation, the classified documents, donald trump had many opportunities to return this information. it's not like doj just found out that he had some documents and they did a raid on mar-a-lago. they tried for i think almost a year to get this back. he simply refused to do it because he feels above the law. you cannot claim to be the party of law and order if you continue to defend this completely lawless behavior. >> the congressman was talking
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about how this will not change republican voters' minds. that has been the case in the past. it may though start to weaken some of the other potential witnesses. you have the i.t. worker flipped as soon as he got rid of the trump pac-paid attorney. the question is, would the property manager who also has a trump-paid attorney or a trump-pac-paid attorney, would he wobble if there's more witnesses coming forward? raisi good point. if i was trying to crack a locked box and one person started talking and it became a second person, i would know. i would smell blood in the water. i imagine that maybe you are thinking about it the same way. from those witness perspectives or people who could be called to testify, people who could be in trouble or implicated, there is
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safety in numbers, when you see other people based on the advice of counsel change their story or come forward with stories like this. i think it gives some could have -- some cover or encouragement. i think from a political perspective, you are in a situation where this just raises the stakes for the jgeneral election showdown that we are barrelling towards. republicans can't quit donald trump. on the other hand -- this could be a general election where -- these are not just allegations but evidence like this against the person who could be standing as the party's nominee. >> thank you so much. congressman jamie raskin, i don't know if this surprises you. how damning do you think this is for the former president? >> it's doubling damning when you consider that there's also an i.t. worker on the staff who
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is apparently prepared to testify that donald trump tried to get him to delete security camera footage from the trump servers. obviously, donald trump was trying to cover his tracks. sometimes he tries to play the fool and act as if he doesn't know what he is doing. maybe he is too crazy to be found criminally responsible. this demonstrates a clearly premeditated pattern of obstruction the investigation of the evidence. he has been charged in that case with not just stealing those documents and concealing those documents over repeated efforts to get them back, but also of obstruction of justice. i think there's promising progress for the prosecutors in all of these cases. this one just seems like an open and shut case to me. >> also, so much of this seems like dialogue from a mafia
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movie. he tells this aide, you don't know anything about the boxes. you would see that in a movie. the idea that someone would -- an aide facing legal jeopardy would be -- continue to lie for the former president, it's kind of extraordinary to me how he patterns himself. >> well, i remember when i was an assistant attorney general and i had just started out. i was watching some footage kind of along these lines and saying, it's amazing to me how well the godfather in the mob movies capture the way the people talk. a senior prosecutor said it's the reverse. the mobsters watch the movies cmovies. donald trump is imitating the way he thinks a tough guy acts and what he thinks a mob boss
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does. >> i asked this to an earlier guest. for the candidate who campaigns against hillary clinton, lock her up and the idea that he is writing to-do lists on the front or back of classified documents and handing them to this aide, it's -- you can't make it up. >> well, our colleagues in the gop have to completely shelter themselves from the actual news. they have to wrap themselves in this ideological vacuum where they are just playing donald trump propaganda cult tapes all the time. if they really listened to that and tried to compare it to things that they said about hillary clinton or about security breaches in the past, there's nothing that they could do to defend any of this. they are all just about to have
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the problem of explaining why they voted not to impeach or to convict a president who incited a violent insurrection against the un ynion and impeach a president for a crime nobody can identify or specify because the evidence is debunked. if they had a single damning fact against joe biden, believe me, it's all we would hear about. but they don't have a single one. >> appreciate your time. thank you. coming up next, the looming government shutdown, the dysfunctional congress and why nothing is getting done. the growing fallout from sexual misconduct allegations against comedian russell brand. at farmers, we offer both quality insurance and great savings. (crowd cheers) here, take mine. (farmers mnemonic) (ella) fashion moves fast.
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>> we must act united to defeat the aggressor and focus all our capabilities and energy on addressing these challenges. >> if we allow ukraine to be carved up, it's the independence of any nation. i would suggest no. we have to stand up to this aggression today to deter our would-be aggressors tomorrow. >> president biden is seeking more funding for ukraine which could be hard to pass. it's a sticking point for hardline republicans who don't want to spend any money ouukrai. the more immediate problem is that house republicans, who hold a slim majority, cannot pass the easy stuff let alone hard stuff like that. last week, whether they failed advance a defense bill. they failed again on that same defense measure today.
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they didn't bring a separate sto stopgap funding bill to the floor because they didn't have the votes for this. this comes after house republicans met to try to work out their differences. there were a lot of no votes in the room. i don't know how they will get to 218. they couldn't. not on defense which five conservative republicans voted against, not on the bill pulled. something a republican lashed out against last night. >> this is not conservative republicanism. this is stupidity. these people can't define a win. they don't know how to take yes for an answer. it's a clown show. >> just a reminder, that's a house republican talking about other house republicans who the top house republican speaker, kevin mccarthy, cannot bring on board, even though the price of failure say shutdown his senate counterpart warned against.
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>> i think all of you know i'm not a fan of government shutdowns. i have seen a few over the years. they never have produced a policy change. they have always been a loser for republicans. >> the problem is kevin mccarthy can only lose four republican votes to pass anything without support from democratic members. his move to start that impeachment inquiry has not apieced d -- appeased the hare republicans. mccarthy faces a possible challenge to his leadership if he seeks help from democrats who show no sign of wanting to help. he is in a box. his members are in disarray. the shutdown clock is ticking. how dire is this? >> these are high stakes.
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we are talking about paying our troops. this used to be the party of national security. the party that used to champion national security is now against paying our troops. they won't stand up to russia. they refuse to meet with zelenskyy who is fighting for democracy and freedom, principals that used to matter to the republican party. you have one republican senator from alabama who knows a lot about coaching football, nothing about serving in the military. he singleh-handedly is crushing the military and their families. this is serious. look at the national security implications. this is a bigger gift to russia and china than they could ever have imagined. i'm not a partisan hack. some of my greatest accomplishments, i have done those with republicans, republican veterans. you can't defend this right now. when i look at the threats to our national security, the
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republican party has become a great threat to america's national security. >> you believe that? >> yes. i do. you hear -- republican veterans walked out the house today and just were assailing the fellow members of their party saying they are helping china. that's what republicans said about fellow republicans on the house steps this afternoon. it shows how much they are in disarray and how high the stakes are for our country. >> do democrats -- at some point -- see room to keep the government open, a stopgap? without a deal with democrats, i don't see it passing, said one republican. >> democrats have always stepped in. you have to have a republican party willing to work with us. their defense appropriations bill has all these crazy provisions like -- they are trying to ban books and everything through the defense department that are never going
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to -- they are total non-starters with any sensible republican or any reasonable democrat. the republicans have to be willing to compromise. that's what's happened in the past. it's not happening today. >> you heard president biden calling for the world to stand up to russia's invasion in ukraine. you are a veteran. what message do you think it will send to the world if the chaos in the house causes an actual disruption in u.s. aide? >> it tells the world america is not a reliable partner. america does not take seriously the values that we have stood for for two centuries, that we are not willing to stand up to the greatest enemies we face like russia and china. we can't get our own house in order. we are talking about national security here. what about the fact that the so-called compromise bill that they put forward to fund the government would cut 60,000 seniors off of meals on wheels? i remember when my grandfather depended on meals on wheels to eat every day. it's going to cut 800 customs
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and border officers. i thought this was the party that cared about border security. it's just a mess. it's dangerous for our country. >> do white house congressional supporters of ukraine need to do a better job explaining to the public why they feel more aid is vital? cnn polling indicated a majority of americans oppose it. >> the problem is right now in the house the majority of republicans actually support it, but they are not willing to say that publically. >> because they are afraid of the constituents? >> yes. instead of going home to their district and explaining to them why this is important, why funding ukraine, supporting ukraine is a great investment in our national security, because they refuse to explain that to their constituents, you have terrible poll numbers. you have republicans who behind closed doors say they are with the ukrainians and they are with us. they agree with the biden administration on the ukraine policy. then go out five minutes later on tv and say something
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different. >> you hear that from republican colleagues? >> all the time. we have classified briefings on ukraine, we have for months on the house armed services committee. sometimes they come in with legitimate questions, concerns. when those questions are answered to their satisfaction it doesn't affect what they say on tv. that lack of basic political courage to tell the truth is a real problem if you are trying to make a deal to fund the government. >> appreciate it. thank you. we will get a check on the republican presidential primary from the independent-minded voters in new hampshire. john king takes his series all over the map to the early contest to gauge the strength of the former president to understand why some republican voters in new hampshire are eyeing a kennedy instead. althcam with five nationally ranked hospitals, includining two world-renownd academic medical centers. in boston, where biotech innovates dailily
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with the new hampshire primary months away, john king decided to gauge the mood of voters there. he tracks the presidential campaign through the eyes and experiences of voters who live in key battleground states. new hampshire isn't just a critical early test for the former president's control of his party. >> reporter: heading out in the moonlight. andrew often spends 80 hours a week on the water. sometimes more. it is grueling work. it shapes his politics. >> i'm republican. they are more for the working man. >> reporter: fishing boats have filled this harbor for 400
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years. a proud but struggling industry. a blue color craft where workers feel ignored by the regulators who set the rules and by the politicians who now want to line the coast with wind turbines. >> that's going to destroy the fishing industry. >> reporter: so your political positions are based on -- >> my livelihood. >> reporter: the men we met are not climate die nighe >> my livelihood. >> reporter: the men we met are not climate dimate deniers. they say the people deciding what to don't ask those who live it every day. >> i don't think he will understand unless they come on the boat. >> reporter: any offer to come on the boat? >> no. >> reporter: distrust is easy to find. >> the working class, fishermen, all of us, we are struggling in this economy. >> reporter: anger at traditional politicians drew lukas to donald trump in 2016. he sees a new insurgent in the
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2024 presidential field. >> i am likely to vote for robert kennedy. >> reporter: why? >> he is willing to state that we should not blindly trust corporations or our government. i think he believes in caring for our environment. >> reporter: raymond says many republican-leaning friends feel the same way. >> my crewmate sent me the interview with joe rogan. i started listening to him. i found many things about him pretty impressive. >> reporter: two things to know. i love craft beer. i obsess about political math. how choices like raymond's could impact not only the primary but the vote here next november. stanley shares raymond's disgust with politics as usual. 2016, clinton, trump? >> i wanted neither. i didn't vote for either of them. >> reporter: third party? >> third party. >> reporter: 2020, biden, trump? >> neither.
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third party. >> reporter: what will you do now? what if you get that again? >> probably not vote. >> reporter: his father was a vietnam veteran. his brewery is in an old fire station. signs of service are everywhere. he wants to believe but he can't right now. >> we need to get the old out and bring new in and reinvigorate what hopefully is a better united states. >> reporter: he would never vote trump. you could argue his sitting out the primary helps the former president. pete's change of heart hurts trump. >> national security is the number one thing that any president would need to take precedence over everything else. you don't have an economy if you don't have a country. >> reporter: he was a helicopter pilot. trump won him over in 2016. >> smart guy. i met him personally. >> reporter: he says trump 2024 is not trump 2016.
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>> he is not focusing on the issues going forward. he seems to be focusing on the issues of the past. i'm done with the past. >> reporter: nikki haley is his choice. signs of trump's new hampshire advantage are easy to find. >> it's very much pro-donald trump. from what i see, grass-roots on the ground. >> reporter: this woman adds a caveat. >> i personally don't think he is as strong as he was in 2016. people argue with me and tell me i'm wrong and get mad i'm saying this. i will be honest and say i don't see it. >> reporter: andrew agrees. then compared to now? >> i think less now. all the legal cases. >> reporter: in 2016, he sees trump as the best catch in another crowded gop field. >> donald trump as of right now. i'm going to keep it open so i can make an educated decision.
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trump would be first. desantis second. >> reporter: he may have to catch the second debate offshore on satellite tv. fishing season will be on winter break when the pry imary is hel next year. >> john king joins us now with the cnn magic wall. you hear voters. they are not always in lockstep. >> this is so interesting. this is the 2016 map. donald trump's first win came in new hampshire. you are heard voters saying he has a healthy lead there. they believe that. even voters not with him. at the moment. iowa, ted cruz won it in 2016. donald trump, we were there last month, donald trump is very strong there now. the states are so different. how is donald trump ahead in these two -- this is the 2016 primary caucus. iowa, 79% were republican. in new hampshire, that's 59% because only 20% in iowa were independent. more than four in ten voters in new hampshire in 2016 and likely again this time around are
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independent. look at the difference ideologically. 40% of the iowa voters in 2016, conservative. new hampshire, only 26%. ee evangelical christians, easy in iowa. hard to find in new hampshire. as of today, look how different the two states electorate. donald trump is ahead in both states. not impossible to beat but very hard. >> did you get a grasp on the level of excitement that exists for trump in new hampshire? >> there's no question he has a lead. everybody think it's sizable. it was interesting. the biggest takeaway was the disillusionment across the board. some republicans are going to robert f. kennedy junior. so many said i'm with him now but it's not as exciting as early 2016. some said, as we get closer to the primary, it will be probably
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in january, if desantis -- they mention desantis, but if somebody else was surging, they might reconsider. trump has a big lead. you do sense some vulnerabilities. in a crowded field, can anybody take advantage of it? we have lived that before. >> john, stanley's liquid therapy bar looked like fun. how was the craft beer? >> awesome. come along on the next trip. >> i would like to. >> i'm laughing about it. stanley is fascinating. had is my tenth presidential campaign. his dad is a vietnam veteran, has local officials into his pub, won't vote in national politics because he is disgusted. that's a problem. >> i would love to go there. thanks. >> beer is on me. a diplomatic conflict between canada and india is droedroe i drawing in the u.s. and others. we will have the latest n. but we help you shape your financial story.
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anger, outrage and calls for action against india after an explosive allegation by the canadian prime minister. justin trudeau said there are credible allegations that tie india's government to the murder of a canadian citizen. the murder occurred in june on canadian soil. trudeau says he was not trying
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to provoke india but since the allegations, both countries have expelled senior diplomats. the u.s. and british governments called it serious allegations. >> reporter: he was steps away from the temple he led in worship when he was shot several times by masked gunmen who marked him for murder as he sat in his gray truck. police say the suspects then fled on foot, possibly in this car, a silver toyota camry. canadian police released this image pleading for the public's help. that was mid june. there has been no trace of the car or suspects since. the trail had gone cold. many in this sikh community believe it had all the hallmarks of a political assassination. then in a stunning disclosure, their suspicions were voiced by canadian prime minister justin
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trudeau. >> any involvement of a foreign government in the killing of a canadian citizen or canadian soil is an unacceptable violation of our sovereignty. >> reporter: he cited credible intelligence the indian government may have ordered the killing. >> the government of india needs to take this matter with the utmost seriousness. we are doing that. we are not looking to provoke or escalate. we are simply laying out the facts as we understand them. we want to work the government of india. >> reporter: his lawyer confirms the canadian intelligence officials warned the sikh leader his life was in danger. did they offer protection? >> they did not. they advised him to relocate. they advised him, do not go to work. besides giving advice, how do you safeguard his life? they did not give him any
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protection. >> reporter: the indian government denied allegations linking it to the killing. trudeau confronted modi last week. modi would not accept the claims. trudeau went public with the accusations, but not before speaking with u.s. president joe biden and other allies. this awe dis now no closer to b solved. canada and india traded diplomatic expulsions with india firing back that canada shelters extremists. india has sought to put down the separatist movement to divide india. it labeled the man a wanted terrorist in 2022. while canada is leaning on what it describes as solid evidence, canadian police are still asking for the public's help, telling
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cnn, this homicide remains a priority investigation. make no mistake, the thought that india possibly, allegedly reached right into canada and pulled the trigger on someone they wanted to silence for political reasons is chilling to the si hsikh community and all canada. at issue is the white house, biden's indo-pacific strategy. they hardly wanted this. they are trying to use india as a counterbalance to china. having said that, unless true do can come up with evidence and show everybody or they get the suspects and it's revealed in court, most allies, including the white house, are ready to just stay on the sidelines of this and watch it unfold. >> thanks so much. new information on a court hearing in moscow today involving evan gershkovich and whether he would remain detained while awaiting trial. he was arrested in march on a reporting trip. russia's security service
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accused him of trying to obtain state secrets. he denied the allegations. the u.s. said he is wrongfully detained. matthew chance was at the courthouse where he briefly saw gershkovich. >> reporter: we have been let into the courthouse. you can see him. are you holding up already? no questions? understood. there he is. you can see him. looking relaxed. all the cameras being allowed in to take a close-up look at him. security is very tight. what's the problem ? what do you want us to do? it's okay. it's okay.
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>> joined now by matthew chance in moscow. it looked tense there. can you explain the moment in court we just saw? >> reporter: i think i can, in the sense that we walked into the courtroom, as you say -- as you see. i said hello to evan gershkovich. my cameraman was filming the scene. we were preparing to record something for broadcast later. the security services there and the court authorities moved very quickly to stop us. they didn't like the fact i asked a question. they didn't like the fact that i communicated with evan or that we weren't just filming him sort of tight in close. they want you to stand there with the camera and point it right at evan gershkovich and not say anything, which is very hard, particularly when on the or side of the glass cage is a colleague, somebody you know. i thought it was the right thing to do to sort of speak to him.
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they kicked us out pretty quickly. shortly afterwards -- the court session wasn't very long. shortly afterwards, his appeal against his pre-trial detention extension, which had been extended until november 30th, he was appealing against that, that was denied. the appeal was a failure. as expected. this is not the first time that this has happened. every time there's an extension, he appeals it. the appeal is denied. it happened again this time as well. >> the u.s. ambassador was able to meet with gershkovich on friday. have u.s. authorities made any comment on his detention? >> reporter: they have. they have been absolutely scathing about the fact that russia continues to hold evan gershkovich and other u.s. citizens, particularly paul whelan, also held for espionage. the u.s. ambassador said that.
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when she came out of the court, after the hearing ended, and made her point again that this was fundamentally wrong that evan gershkovich, who she denies -- the american government denies he engaged in any espionage on their behalf. she pointed out again how fundamentally wrong it is that he is being held by the russians. take a listen. >> evan is fully aware of the gravity of his situation. yet, he remains remarkably strong. true to his profession, evan is always eager to discuss the lailaid e -- latest headlines. he knew his parents delivered a petition to the u.n. last week, petition that calls on the u.n. to make clear that he has been arbitrary detained and to push for his immediate release. >> reporter: the ambassador went on to say journalism is not a
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tonight british comedian russell brand is blocked from making money from his show on youtube. the bbc has pulled some of their shows and his multi-city comedy tour is on hold. all this as he faces sexual assault allegations from at least four women dating as far back as 2006, allegations he denies. more now from 360's randi kaye. >> russell engaged in the behaviors of a groomer. looking back on it, i didn't even know what this was then or what that looked like. >> reporter: this woman says she was 16 when actor russell brand first took an interest in her. at the time, he was 31. the woman says brand would refer to her as "the child" and that he tried to separate her from her parents. >> he would try to drive a wedge between me and my parents,
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taught me to lie to them. i was at my dad's house, and it was 11:00 at night. russell was texting me. he's like, please come over. i'm really upset. i need to see you. >> their relationship allegedly lasted about three months and according to the alleged victim, brand forced her to perform oral sex on him. >> i couldn't breathe. it was just choking me. i was pushing him away and pushing him away, and you wasn't -- he wasn't backing off at all. so i ended up having to punch him really hard in the stomach to get him off. and then he, like, fell backwards, and i was crying, and he said, oh, i only want to see your mascara run anyway. >> reporter: the allegations were raised as part of a joint investigative report from three british media outlets. this woman, along with three others, are accused brand of sexual assault in separate incidents, allegedly occurring between 2006 and 2013.
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the women chose not to be identified by name, and cnn has not been able to independently verify their claims. brand took to social media before the investigation had even published to preemptively deny any wrongdoing. >> amidst this litany of astonishing, rather baroque attacks are some very serious allegations that i absolutely refute. as i've written about extensively in my books, i was very, very promiscuous. during that time, the relationships i had were absolutely always consensual. >> reporter: despite brand's denial, fallout from the sexual assault allegations has been swift. just one day after the report was published, the london metropolitan police said they have opened an investigation into one of the allegations of sexual assault but did not name brand, saying, quote, we are aware of reporting by the sunday times and channel 4's dispatches about allegations of sexual offenses. on sunday, 17 september, the met
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received a report of a sexual assault which was alleged to have taken place in soho in central london in 2003. officers are in contact with the woman and will be providing her with support. brand has also postponed the remaining dates of his comedy tour, and youtube has suspended his channel's revenue stream. >> that's the idea of sex. >> reporter: brand has been very open about his past struggles with sex addiction and often incorporated his sexual exploits into his routine. >> sex is a hobby. i like it. would you believe that there are people that are trying to spoil that for me now? >> reporter: brand-new says he may have been too open about his struggles, opening the door for others to attack him. >> i was always transparent about that then, almost too transparent. and i'm being transparent about it now as well. and to see that transparency metastasize into something
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criminal that i absolutely deny makes me question, is there another agenda at play? >> reporter: anderson, these allegations go back more than a decade, so the question, of course, is why are these women coming forward now? the reporters involved in this joint investigation say the women are coming forward and agreeing to talk with reporters because they saw the success that brand had as a wellness influencer recently, and so that's why they agreed to talk. it's also worth noting that these reporters say they have evidence to support these women's claims. they say that they have text messages, private emails, notes from therapists who treated these women. and it's also important to note just the date of these allegations. this was at the height of russell brand's fame. he had a show on bbc radio. he had a show on channel 4 in the uk. he had married pop star katy perry in 2010. they divorced a couple of years later. and he was in hollywood. he was making movies as well. so he had a lot of success in his life at that time, anderson. >> randi, thanks very much. we'll be right back.
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