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house speaker kevin mccarthy is working to keep his party together but also to keep his job. >> they might be in the same galaxy, but they are on different planets. >> hopefully some of my colleagues will see the light of day quickly. >> the former trump aide says trump told her to play dumb about boxes of classified documents. >> she was right outside the most important office in the world. >> i think it's incredibly damaging. >> that is textbook obstruction of justice. >> the attorney general taking the hot seat, what merrick garland plans to tell lawmakers. >> they spent a lot of time protecting democrats and lot of time hunting republicans. >> we stand up on our side of the aisle for the rule of law. >> the illegal weaponization of the department of justice. >> good morning, everyone. it is a wednesday, we're so glad you're with us, and it's a really particularly busy wednesday in your old hometown. >> it is groundhog day, also,
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not literally but feels like that on capitol hill. >> yeah, it really does, and merrick garland, by the way, is testifying. here's where we begin. this morning, house republicans at odds with each other. that's to say the least, as america hurdles towards a government shutdown. hear that? we saw the chaos on full display as republican lawmakers failed to pass their own defense bill after five consecutive hard liners voted to kill it. it's a huge red flag as speaker kevin mccarthy struggles to get his conference under control with about ten days left to prevent the government from shutting down. >> after the vote, a group of house republicans held an impromptu news conference and slammed their own colleagues to pass a defense bill. >> our inability to bring the package to a floor vote because of these five individuals who decided to put their personal agendas ahead of the basic requirements of our troops is extremely upsetting to us.
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they're confused and they just handed a win to the chinese communist party as a result of this vote, and we're going to do everything we can to keep folks at the table to get people back online. >> the white house is outlining the consequences of a potential shutdown, and warning that it could undermine the u.s. economy and national security. we have team coverage this morning. arlette saenz is at the white house. i want to start with lauren fox on capitol hill, and, lauren, i think it's important to distinguish here the bill that failed yesterday, the procedural motion that went down yesterday, which by the way, is extremely rare was a defense spending bill just for the pentagon. they have nothing moving when it comes to actually halting a government shutdown. two separate things, but both equally hugely problematic. >> reporter: yeah, phil, in fact, there were two issues with procedures yesterday, the defense bill that went down on the floor of the house of representatives, exceedingly repair, but they also had to
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make a decision from leadership yesterday to pull a vote on a procedural measure on the floor to advance the short-term spending bill, and that's where we stand today. that is where republicans are still engaged in around-the-clock conversations trying to find a way forward, and there was a marathon meeting all day yesterday in the office of republican whip tom emer, kelly armstrong said it was a therapy session as members were able to get a lot off their chest, have a conversation about what they might need to do to move forward as one united republican front. it's not clear they're ever going to get there, and in part, it's because you have a number of hard liners, who are not only opp opposed to moving forward with this negotiated one-month republican stop-gap spending measure, you also have a number of conservatives who are starting to make clear they may never get to yes on any short-term spending bill, and
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that is a problem for kevin mccarthy because he has such a narrow majority in the house of representatives, and if you zoom out a little bit and think about the bigger picture, we are still focusing on if republicans can come together in one side of the capitol. there is still no negotiation that is happening to avoid a government shutdown, even for a month, between republican leaders in the house of representatives and democratic leaders in the senate, and that is the negotiation that will ultimately matter if we are going to be avoiding a shutdown, so a lot of unanswered questions right now as republicans are hoping to find a way forward. it's not clear they're going to. >> if they remind the american people what a government shutdown would mean to them and our service members that defend this country that this may have an impact and push things along? >> yeah, poppy, the white house is seizing on the chaotic nature of these discussions amongst house republicans trying to
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paint them as engaged in extreme partisan politics, something we have heard consistently from the white house is that republicans have been prioritizing issues like a potential impeachment inquiry which the white house calls a political stunt, and also loading up a bill with items that would simply just not pass the senate. now, this morning, the white house is focusing on laying out what the consequences of a government shutdown would be. including furloughing federal workers. this would be active duty military members who would be forc forced to work without pay, air traffic controllers and tsa agents that the white house argues could cause airport delays down the road. there are also concerns that the fema disaster relief fund would be depleted. we have consistently heard from fema administrator, deanne criswell, if congress does not authorize the $60 billion request from the president, they're going to run out of funds quickly, after those wildfires in hawaii and the hurricane down in florida. there's concern about delay for infrastructure projects if reviews and permitting can't be
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completed. one thing that the white house has consistently pointed to is their belief that house republicans need to stick to the budget agreements that they brokered with the white house back in may. we haven't seen any direct involvement with president biden as republicans are engaged this chaotic nature up on capitol hill. we will see whether that changes as they barrel closer to a potential shut down. >> we'll watch closely, thank you very much. we want to turn to new reporting in the investigation into donald trump's mishandling of classified documents. reporting that a klclose aide t trump told her investigators told her not to talk about the boxes of documents. here's the exact line trump told her, quote, you don't know anything about the boxes. this assistant is molly michael, not an unimportant person in trump world. she worked closely with trump at the white house, and followed him to work at his florida resort. she resigned last year. according to reports she told
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investigators trump would write to do plists on documents marke classified. jennifer rogers, thank you so much for being here. i want to start with something chris christie said, former federal prosecutor, also running against the former president, political and legal always intertwined here. take a listen. >> that's active witness tampering, obstruction of justice. if she's telling the truth, then we have more evidence that will be presented at the time of trial, and this case will be tried, and this is the guy that we want to make our nominee? >> putting the political race aside, is chris christie right in terms of the implications of this? >> if it's as reported, this is obstruction of justice, knowing full well that trump and michael did, she knew all about the boxes of documents. you don't know anything about
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them as she's poised to go in to talk to investigators, it's classic obstruction of justice. what do prosecutors do with this? she's obviously a valuable witness on the case that existed now, on the side of the documents and the obstruction cases they have charged. do they now add another obstruction of justice count as they move forward. >> that's interesting. also the question is, chris christie will note, if she's telling the truth. there's no reason to believe she's not, and i just want everyone to listen to sarah matthew, what was the deputy press secretary for trump explaining how crucial she is in terms of was in her role and in close proximity she was to then president trump. here's that. >> so this is something he knew very well, who would have had a lot of face time with the president, and they can't simply dismiss her, you know, as someone that he would not beware of or who wouldn't be in the know because she was quite literally standing rite outside the most important office in the world, someone who the president knew by name, and i think that
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makes hear very credible witness. >> your thoughts? >> yeah, i agree. i mean, a couple of things here. one, there's no intermediary to the statements that she allegedly has. just directly trump into her ear. we had the prior witness, who said this is important. she's unimpeachable. she didn't lie first and now she's in trouble, coming clean. she's someone who was called in, wasn't about to lie for everyone. terrific witness for prosecutors. >> we should note that the trump campaign put o out a statement, this was taken out of context. we'll have to wait and see on that. all eyes will be trained on capitol hill not because they're wandering their way into a boxed canyon of a government shutdown but attorney general merrick garland will be testifying today, the first time since the
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hunter biden indictment, since republicans launched the impeachment inquiry. it's striking in the excerpts that the justice department released in his opening statement, i'm not the president's lawyer. i will also add i'm not congress's prosecutor. the justice department works for the american people. our job is to follow the facts and law wherever they lead, and that is what we do. the ag getting out in front of this hearing, releasing these excerpts and making that statement. why do you think he did it? >> you can see why he's getting, at least for garland, maybe a little testy, if anyone has demonstrated his independence from the white house and everyone else, it's merrick garland. you could even argue that he's been too laid back, it took them too long to focus on the true causes of the january 6th insurrection, you know, that he went too far in saying, sure, go after hunter biden for something that frankly no one else in the country would have been charged with. if anything, he's putting his thumb on the other side of the scale, i have been as independent as i can possibly be, you know, if you're paying attention, you know that, and all of the rest of this is political.
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so i'm not surprised he's coming out swinging, again, for him, merrick garland swinging isn't swinging like other people might, but, you know, good for him to try to put the facts out there about what's happened in front of the american people. >> it will be an interesting hearing to watch. thank you as always. >> thanks. i want to show you this, new overnight, several protesters were taken into police custody. this is staten island, new york, and you see them blocking a bus carrying migrants fseeking asylm in new york. >> new york city has become an epicenter of the migrant center since the spring. with costs projected to run up to $12 billion in the coming years. these people line up in search of housing and other basic services. the finger pointing between new york city's mayor, new york's governor and president biden and the biden administration has been happening now for months. adams at a town hall event earlier this month says he sees no end to the issue, and it's
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possible that it could quote destroy new york city. a high school band director tased and arrested by police for refusing to stop playing after a football game. this happened in birmingham, alabama, coming up, the band director will join us live to describe firsthand what he experienced. new federal charges after a toddler at a new york city day care overdosed on fentanyl and died. we'll have that, stay with us.s. long lasting relief in a scecent free, gentle mist. flonase all good. also, try y our allergy headache and nighttime pills. hello 12 hours of relief. 12 hours!! not coughing? hashtag still not coughing mucinex dm gives you 12 urs of relief from chest congestion and any type of cough, day or night. mucinex dm. it's comeback season.
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booking.com, booking.yeah ♪ ♪ those are panicked screams after birmingham police tased and arrested a high school band director, and we are going to talk to that band director live in just moments, but first, we told you about this yesterday morning. police say they were clearing out the stadium at the end of a football game. this was last week, when they noticed both schools bands were still performing. according to birmingham police, when asked to stop playing music in order to get people to leave the stadium, the hometown's band complied but the visiting school's band director, johnny mims and his band continued performing.
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>> physical altercation then ensued and they released this body cam video of the incident. a warning, some of this may be distressing to watch. >> hold on. [ screaming ] >> now, mims was charged with disorderly conduct, harassment and resisting arrest. the school he works for has placed him on administrative leave. birmingham police's internal affairs division is investigating. joining us is johnny mims, the band director tased by police and his attorney alabama state representative, thank you very much for joining us. i can't imagine what the last several days have been like for you, but, johnny, on that front. i know you went to the hospital after this occurred. mentally, physically, where are you right now? how are you feeling?
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>> i'm still of course grappling with the situation that took place. it's kind of been an ongoing thing for me daily, just, you know, taking it one day at a time. as you did explain, i did get an opportunity to go and get checked. i had an opportunity to go yesterday and to get a follow up, and so i have a great doctor that i have been working with to try to, you know, help me get, you know, readily used to my arm because i was tased in the shoulder as well as the lower torso area. and then on my other side of my -- and of course i use my shoulders for of course most of the things that i do, so mentally, of course, you know, just hearing those screams from the video again, and just, again, recounting everything as educator, of course, you know, you're always trying to figure out anything that happens, you're always going through that process again to see, you know, what you could have, you know, how you can move forward on everything and so it's just been a day-to-day process. it's something i'm still
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grappling with and very very concerned about the students who had to witness that situation. >> we do want to hear about the students in a moment. i watched, you know, the video more than our viewers just saw, and it appears and the text on the screen says that you were tased three times throughout this. i do want to play for you what police are saying in terms of putting out this body camera video because you hear multiple officers requesting for you to stop. so let's play that, and i want your reaction. ♪ >> we're a band. tell them to stop. >> we got to go. >> we got to go. what you going to do. >> that's okay. >> at the end, they say you will go to jail, and you say that's cool and give a thumbs up, can
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you explain why you did not have your students stop playing? >> the students were already, of course, engaged in the playing as you can hear what i'm saying there. i communicated to the officers, hey, we're on the last part of the song. there's of course, we call it a cadence point of a song where you -- the students know to go into the last part of the song to cut off. again, i had students in the stands, about 130 in the stands, then i had 15 students on the actual track, and so there's a coordination that must happen between those two entities of the band. it's not one of those things that you cut the group off. part of the band is in front of me, and the other part of the band is on the floor, and so, as i communicated with them, you know, we were at the end of the song, that would be the most appropriate situation to happen because those two groups are not together. the other band, if you look in the footage on the other side, their entire band was up in the
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stands, it's much easier for that director to get total control of what's going on with the group while they're playing, and so that's the reason why, again, you can see in there that i did communicate that. and of course you know, as a person, you're up, what do i do. you're caught off guard. you're confused about why did the officer come and directing the questions in a way that they are directing it towards me, and so of course that's going to cause some confusion for a person, and, you know, so my reaction was just to let them know, we're towards the end of the song, and as the person, i wanted to make sure they were aware to make sure this is the best way to get to the end of the song, so i can cut off the band appropriately, and both groups would know what's going on. i want to understand too, getting towards the end of the song, the lights were turned off. that also further complicated the situation for me allowing to
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be able to cut the band off. you can see that, i'm trying to cue the group to cut off. at that time, because i'm a darker person, it's difficult for the students to see me. >> i want to ask you, i read what you said, and what you have seen and what you have described over the course of the last several days related to the events that transpired, the police, i believe, claim that johnny hit them, swung at an officer when he stepped off the platform. it's hard to always kind of put everything together when you're looking at body cam footage or looking at different pieces of things. is that an area of dispute right now? is there something the police have described that you think is wholly inaccurate or doesn't tell the full story? >> it's an absolute lie and a fabrication by the birmingham police department. i have seen multiple angles of the footage. i met with the city attorney yesterday. and immediately what you all --
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i'm sorry? >> i apologize for interrupting. go ahead, i wanted to make sure we also had a statement. please continue. >> i'm sorry. what you all have before you on monday, what was released, that was the police department's first -- what they chose to release, but there are about four, actually, maybe four or five other pieces of body cam footage that they chose not to release initially because it really depicts a different story, and i, again, state that there is a fabrication of the truth, and it is unfortunately that in this day and time that the police officers of this country, many of them, the first thing they say is that someone attacked them or they thrust at them or they made some type of inappropriate gesture. i met with the city attorney yesterday. i started going through all of
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the video footage. my client not at one time attempted to assault in any fashion the birmingham police department and it's an ultimate fabrication, and also there's footage, and i think that has now been sent to you-all that some of the officers that are birmingham police officers that were there were amazed at the fact that my client was even tased. they were totally stunned and they thought it was totally inappropriate, the actions of the birmingham police department. and regardless of how this may have started, there is nothing that happened that would have warranted my client being tased multiple times even while on the ground like some total criminal at that point in front of 145 students at minor high school. those kids were traumatized. they have been i think distraught over this situation. this is an embarrassment to law
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enforcement. we have never witnessed this that i can ever recall in this country, that an educator would be tased in front of students by law enforcement is unacceptable. it's excessive, and not only that, we are going to be seeking also the information as to who cut the lights off at the school, as well as who the other security was in attendance, and the other question i want answered is where were the administrators for both schools, the principal for minor high school and jackson high school. those are questions that need to be asked and answered. >> we will continue to follow this, ask those questions, of course, we awelcome the birmingham police to join us and answer the questions, and i'm also sorry for interrupting you as well. it was not intentional. we appreciate you coming on the program. thank you. >> thank you so kindly. >> thank you. two people are now facing federal drug charges in connection with the overdose death of a 1-year-old boy and
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the hospitalization of three other children at a day care facility here in new york city. police say the children were napping in close proximity to the powerful fentanyl. two suspects and others were running a fentanyl distribution business out of the building in an operation which quote shocked the conscience of the city. cnn's shimon prokupecz is live with details. look, i think this story has been rattling in my brain since i first saw the headlines, what's actually happening here? >> right now, the dea is involved and the nypd, federal prosecutors, they believe this was a drug trafficking ring that was being run out of this day care, perhaps this day care uses some kind of front to hide what was going on there. and pretty significant in the sense that what they found there after this 1-year-old who died, they believe because of an opiate overdose, fentanyl that was in this day care center, somehow came into contact with the 1-year-old and three other kids and if it wasn't for the quick actions by emergency
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responders, using narcan to save the lives of these other three kids, we could perhaps be talking about a worst-case scenario. so now the feds are involved. they have charged the two individuals, the day care owner, mendez, who's 41 and another individual, carlisto, who was living inside the location, with conspiracy to deliver narcotics and possession with intent to deliver narcotics but the investigation is not over. in fact, the nypd says they're going even further to see if this was some kind of global drug trafficking network out of the dominican republic. they're looking for the day care center's, the owner, her husband who fled the scene. she called him, text messaged him in the moments after all of this happened. even before she called 911, she's texting and calling her husband. he comes to the location, as police are arriving, and removes items filled inside a bag. they don't know what exactly it is, but obviously investigators
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believe it has to do with drug paraphernalia, other items that they found at the home. so now they need to figure out exactly was it part of some kind of bigger network, the three other children who were injured are doing okay, but if it wasn't for really the quick action of those emergency responders who had to use this nasal spray, right, this narcan, who would think that kid would need to be treated in such a way. and just to follow up, i mean, we're talking about a kilo of fentanyl, which the d.e.a. and others say can kill up to 500,000 people. this is enough drugs that you can sell to 500,000 people. it's a lot of drugs. it's certainly very deadly and dangerous, certainly, to have in a day care. >> it's horrifying as a parent, but also what are you doing as a human being. please keep us posted on this great reporting, shimon, thank you. ukrainian president, volodymyr zelenskyy will held to washington, d.c. after making his desperate plea for more aid at the united nations.
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of course everybody who lost families, it doesn't matter where you lost it, in new york, in the center of new york or in
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kramatorsk, it doesn't matter, you lost, and that's it. and you never will hear your children. of course when you lose your family, you hate russians. or another terrorist. >> the starkest of terms from ukrainian's president volodymyr zelenskyy. that was in an interview he did with our colleague wolf blitzer about how russia's war is impacting ukrainian civilians. zelenskyy sat down with wolf following his speech yesterday at the united nations general assembly. the ukrainian leader heads to washington, d.c. where he is expected to meet with president biden and also visit capitol hill. his trip comes as additional aid for ukraine is being held up as part of the house republicans' broader fight over funding the government. house speaker kevin mccarthy says he has questions for zelenskyy over aid ukraine has already received from the united states. >> is zelenskyy elected to congress? is he our president?
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i don't think i have to commit anything. i have questions for him. where's the accountability and money we already spent. what is the plan for victory? >> joining us now, democratic senator chris murphy of connecticut. he of course sits on the foreign relations committee. he will attend an all senators meeting with zelenskyy tomorrow. senator, good morning, and thank you. it's not just kevin mccarthy and house republicans. it's, you know, senators like mike braun, quote, why should we be paying for bills for something especially in a powder keg area like that. we can't afford to do it in the long run. josh hawley, we need to level with our european allies and say we need you to take the lead in the conventional europe, we'll take the lead on china. why are they wrong in your mind? >> because this matters to the united states. it doesn't just matter to europe. the united states has benefitted from the post-world war ii order in which big countries like russia and china don't use their military might to invade smaller countries. that stability has allowed
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american economic and political power to grow. so this isn't just a european problem. this is an american problem, and as we saw in world war i and world war ii, when the united states takes the position at first that invasions of europe are european problems, they very quickly become american problems, and so we're learning from history by stopping this invasion early, rather than lettering putin take all of ukraine, and then perhaps move further into europe. so i just don't agree with my colleagues that, a, europe can handle this by themselves. there are capabilities that only the united states has that we can transfer to ukraine, nor do i agree that it isn't a priority for the united states. ukraine isn't asking american soldiers to die to protect ukraine. they're asking us to help pay some of the bills. we're still paying less than half the bills for military support and i think it's a wise investment. >> is it your belief now ten days out ukraine is part of the issue here, there are a whole
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host of issues, i know it's the other chamber, that we are headed toward a government shutdown, though? >> i mean, listening to the house of representatives in the last week, i really worry that we are headed to a shutdown. they have no path to passing a continuing resolution with republican votes. right now, mccarthy doesn't seem to have any interest in doing a bipartisan continuing resolution, which is really the only continuing resolution that can pass. and just yesterday, they couldn't even move the defense bill to the floor. translating that they can't even get pay raises for the troops passed, so the house republicans seem like a total chaotic mess right now. in the senate, you know, we have bipartisan support for the appropriations bills, and we would have bipartisan support for a continuing resolution, but the dysfunction of the house republicans seems pretty cataclysmic right now, and i worry, unless they change course
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and ddecide to start cooperatin with democrats that we are headed for a damaging shutdown in this country. >> given your position on global affairs and your particular interest in saudi arabia and the united states, i do want to ask you, as the president, by the way, gets ready to meet with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu today, what the "new york times" is reporting this morning, quote, the united states is discussing the terms of a mutual defense treaty with saudi arabia that would resemble military pacts with japan and south korea. and tom friedman framed it interestingly this morning, he says, netanyahu has formed the most extreme government in israel's history and yet biden's administration is considering forging a complex partnership with his coalition in saudi arabia. there are enormous potential benefits and risks for the united states. is it your view, senator, that the potential benefits are worth the risks of doing something like this? we'll all remember candidate biden said he would make saudi a
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pariah. >> so i think the united states should be in the room to try to help facilitate an agreement between saudi arabia and israel that normalized relations between those two countries. it is good for the united states if there is peace between the gulf and in particular between saudi arabia and israel. the question is what price should the united states pay for that? and i would be very wary of committing the united states through a treaty to the defense of saudi arabia. i will wait until i see all of the aspects of this deal. i trust the biden administration inherently when it comes to foreign policy, especially in this region that biden knows so well. but this saudi government chopped up an american journalist. there's just recently reports that they have been executing and torturing immigrants as they cross the border. the question is this the kind of stable regime that we should
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commit american blood to defending? i think that's going to be a really high bar for the administration to step over, but all of the administration's allies, you know, are very interested in seeing the details of an agreements if it comes to fruition. >> we should note just so people understand, the reporting is the u.s. and saudi if they agree to this would pledge to provide military support if the other country is attacked in the region or on saudi territory . before you go, i'm really interested in your thoughts, the biden administration is no longer sending people to detroit to help reach an agreement with the auto workers. trump is going to go there on debate night instead of debating. is it your view that president biden should be there? i mean, he is the, right, self-proclaimed union guy, union joe. should he have a more forceful presence there when obviously trump and the republicans are trying to pick up these union votes? >> listen, i think all of us should just say one simple thing, we stand with the union.
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listen, obviously we want this strike to end as quickly as possible, but you know what, sometimes you need to make a fight. i mean, these greedy corporate ceos have been keeping worker pay down for way too long. you're talking about a 150% increase in ceo pay in the last ten years when the minimum wage hasn't gone up at all. this is a really important fight, not just for the auto workers, but for workers all around this country. i think everybody in the democratic party should be just making it clear that we stand with the workers. the administration has to play a unique role to try to help end this crisis, but i think we all should just make it clear that the workers are right. the company is wrong. and when right and wrong is at stake, you know -- >> on all of their demands, senator? four-day workweek included? >> listen, they're asking for a pay increase that is identical to what the ceo has gotten, and so if the ceo doesn't want to
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pay the workers a 9% increase every year, then the ceo shouldn't be taking 10% pay increases every year. >> senator chris murphy, thanks very much. this morning, president biden will meet with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu on the sidelines of the u.n. general assembly, poppy was just asking about that relationship and where it stands, how the president will address netanyahu's controversial reform plan. that's ahead. and after a long struggle to find the life saving drugs for this 9-year-old with cancer, this champion for change laun launched an organization with a mission to endnd drug shortages entirely. her mission, next. and if we proffer it, we know you'll proroffer it to. have y you been behind me this whole time? yep. that first time you take a step back and see everything you've accomplished. i made that. wi your very own online store. i sold tha
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it's time for a favorite part, of every day champions this week. champions for change, every day people who are making big changes and lifting humanity up. people like laura bray. >> she fought to get life saving medicine for her daughter, and now she's striving to change the american pharmaceutical business completely. dr. sanjay gupta has more on this amazing champion for change. we're lucky enough to be joined by him in studio. can't wait to see this. >> good morning, guys. >> good morning. we all have kids, and imagine that you get a terrible diagnosis, one of your children, and you're told, this is the medication that is necessary to help them, to save them. but that medication is in shortage. i mean, that happens all the time in this country. cancer meds are likely to go into shortage. what do you do? i mean, i think it's part of the dna of all of our champions to take on big establishments, but
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if it's the entire health care industry it can be a real challenge. here's what laura bray did. >> four years ago, my husband mike and i were sitting in a hospital room when our child abby was diagnosed with leukemia. i think anybody who's been in a life-threatening diagnosis, you know, will remember those moments. we go in, she's going to be able to her chemo, but she's not going to today, how come, it's on shortage. abby is clever. nothing gets past her, and she just said, what does this mean? does this mean i die? >> she asked you that question. >> yeah, it's hard enough that my 9-year-old had to contemplate her mortality when she's diagnosed with cancer, and also then wonder if she was going to survive because not enough drug was made. >> what she did next makes her a true champion for change.
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she put together a consortium of friend and family, and they essentially created a phone bank calling more than 220 children's hospitals around the country and asking all of them did they have the medication that could save abby. finally, someone said yes. >> it was a relief and a release of all the stress, and then i felt tremendous guilt. and i was haunted by the knowledge that somewhere in the country some other mom and child was going to be going through the same hopeless conversation. we launched angels for change, and almost immediately people began to call. so right now, we're in a ten-year high for drug shortages. there's more than 300 essential medicine shortages. there's four key reasons why there's shortage. the lower the priced medicine, the more likely it is to be in
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shortage. the more complicated the medicine, if there's a history of a qa event, all of it is made by one supplier or one area of the world, it's more likely to be in shortage. >> i think we've gotten so used to thinking about things like amazon, they can anticipate when you're running out of toilet paper, when you're running out of dog food. you think the same thing would happen with life saving medications, but that's not the case. >> the entire supply chain has to be engaged. >> so i thought what would it look like to partner with a manufacturer and use prediction. >> she calls it project test t companies before it's too late. the first effort, a $100,000 grant to manufacture two specific drugs. >> potassium chloride and sodium chloride, newborns, nicu, picu
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patients need to survive. >> you never think you will run out of those specific things. >> jared milton oversees all pharmacy and clinical services at children's hospital colorado. >> what if project protect didn't exist? what would have happened in that situation? >> i shudder to think about what we would have had to do. >> so you are able to anticipate the shortage, basically at risk, create the medications and they did go into shortage. >> more than 700,000 treatments were accessed. >> 700,000 treatments? >> yeah. >> that's incredible. >> it is incredible. >> when you see this now, you see this coming off the lines, what is that like afor you? >> what i see, seven to nine nicu babies are going to get fed today. >> how is abby doing?
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>> she is officially a survivor. she is doing great. she is a very normal, typical, bright, clever, fierce 13-year-old. >> not to tell you, we have been reporting on drug shortages for a long time. i had no idea how bad it was. 300 drugs nrp rwere in shortage the end of 2022. children's cancer meds were at the top of the list. this is now her life's work. abby is doing great. this is a problem. the policymakers have not been able to address this problem, so private citizens have taken it upon themselves. >> remarkable. great piece. thank you. tune in saturday at 8:00 p.m. eastern for champions for change, the one-hour special, you don't want to miss it. president biden calling on world leaders to better regulate artificial intelligence. are we too late to this?
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welcome back. as congress works to confront the rapid evolution of artificial intelligence, president biden is calling on world leaders to take steps to ensure the technology is used for good. >> new partnerships, confront new challenges, emerging technologies such as artificial intelligence hold both enormous potential and enormous peril. we need to be sure they are used as tools of opportunity, not as weapons of oppression. >> our next guest just released a book getting a lot of acclaim, a lot of attention, the coming
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wave technology power in the 21st century. he writes we urgently need watertight answers for how the coming wave can be controlled and contained, but right now no one has such a plan. we are happy to be joined by my ste mustafa suleyman. you know this inside and out. we are glad you are here. your overall premise is essentially we have to make sure, not as america, as a world, that this ends well. it sounds simple, but that's why you're doing this? >> yeah, the most important thing is we remember stlr huge benefits. we shouldn't panic. all technologies that are new initially feel a little bit scary. like aircraft felt scary. cars felt scary. and over the years, with we did a pretty good job of regulating
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them. cars, for example, have all kinds of regulations on roads, emissions, seatbelts, airbags. it takes time to wrap our heads around the consequences and how to reduce the risks. >> what's striking is the upsides are significant, tremendous, and people acknowledge them. the down sides are catastrophic. >> huge, yeah. >> and you focus on the idea of containment. your definition in the book is the ability to control, limit and potentially close down technologies at any stage of their development or deployment. that's a problem at this point. that's at the crux of your thesis here. why? thrjts is a different moment in the history of invention. for the last few entries, as long as humans have been alive, the challenge in unleashing the power of technologies. we have been trying to invent things in order to make our lives happier and heals we will have the flip side of that challenge, with which is actually trying to contain the power we have unleashed and making sure it always works for
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us. >> one the questions is how you do that and one of the suggestions you make is to literally manufacture the chips that can do this processing in one plant and you say in taiwan, for example. that set off alarm bells because i thought of china. what about the risks of something like china if you it do it in taiwan? >> the reality is today almost all of the a.i. models built in the world are trained on a single type of chip made by nvidia, an american company. they manufacture their chips in taiwan, who then use a single supplier in the netherlands to produce their equipment. and so that chain is really good when it comes to containment because there are chokepoints we can use to monitor who has access to these chips, what they are used for and how they can be regulate. that's a sign to be optimistic because it can be controlled. >> a.i. came up in the u.n. general assembly. speeches jarring to some degree.
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important speeches that every word is very calibrated. you heard from president biden and president zelenskyy mentioned it. you note that president vladimir putin believes the a.i. will become the ruler of the world. listen to what zelenskyy said about a.i. yesterday. >> we know that possible effects of spreading the war into the cyberspace. the artificial intelligence could be trained to -- before it would -- the humanity. >> there is a clear race between the u.s. defense department and every other kind of defense operation around the world. what are the near-term risks related to what zelenskyy is talking about? >> a.i. is essentially a proliferation of power. so the ability to have influence whether on the battlefield or in education and health care is now going to get easier and cheaper. so many, many people will get access. that's quite different to technologies of the past.
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the challenge when it comes to regulation is making sure our adversaries play by the rules. that's difficult when thefacing challenges on their own. that's quite different than the challenge we experience. >> it's a fascinating read. you also talk about the good thing that it can do. thank you, congratulations. >> thank you. and "cnn this morning" continues right now. good morning. five things to know. in just hours, attorney general merrick garland will testify publicly in front toys for tots house judiciary committee. what we learned is he plans to tell lawmakers accusing him of weaponizing the justice department. continue days away from a potential government shutdown and in fighting in the republican party is threatening hopes for any teal. all iowa on the federal reserve. officials set to decide whether to keep the pause or r

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