trying to learn certain tishsly either online or underground schools like they first did when the taliban took over in 1996. but here, you know, the women just wish world leaders took their plight seriously. >> back to 1996, 25 years. thank you so much very much, christiane. and of course, as you see christiane's piece tonight, you can also see all of the pieces. don't miss the one-hour "champions for change" special. it is saturday night at 8:00 on cnn. thanks so much to all of you for joining us. for joining us. "ac 360" begins right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight on "360," fall out from what became the first confrontation of the biden impeachment probe. and the question that follows, did the house republican clash with attorney general merrick

garland do anything at all to help them make their case? also tonight, stunning sexual misconduct allegations from the white house aide who saw so much on january 6th against one of the central figures of that day, rudy giuliani. and later, chef jose andres, whose world central kitchen does so much for so many in need talks to anderson about his new cookbook and his recipe for hope. good evening, john berman here in for anderson. and today was essentially day one of house republicans' biden impeachment inquiry. it was also day one of many in their confrontation with attorney general merrick garland over the justice department handling of the hunter biden investigation, the prosecution of january 6th defendants, including former president trump, and the alleged weaponization of the doj. republican lawmakers call what they're doing oversight. and over sight is important, no matter who is in charge. but exchanges like this raise questions about their definition of that term. >> do you support more crime?

>> do i support more crime? >> yeah. >> no, i don't. >> attorney general garland today, before the house judiciary committee, was neither the only confrontation nor the sharpest. more now from cnn's sara murray. >> reporter: attorney general merrick garland squaring off against his toughest critics on capitol hill today. >> the fix is in. even with the face saving indictment of hunter biden, everyone knows the fix is in. >> i am not the president's lawyer. i will add, i am not congress's prosecutor. >> reporter: republicans on the hughes judiciary committee hounding garland for details about the criminal investigation into hunter biden, after his plea deal imploded in july and he was indicted last week in connection with a 2018 gun purchase. >> after five years, what stage are we in? the beginning stage, the middle stage, the end stage, the keep hiding the ball stage? >> i'm not permitted to discuss ongoing investigations. >> isn't that convenient.

>> i think it's brave whistleblowers came forward and the judge called bs. >> reporter: garland rebuffering republicans' questions and deferring to special counsel david weiss, who is overseeing the hunter biden probe. >> i left it to mr. weiss whether to bring charges or not. that would include whether to let statute of limitations to expire or not, whether or not there was sufficient evidence to bring a case that was subject to the statute of limitations or not, whether there were better cases to bring or not. >> reporter: the attorney general reiterating that he stayed out of the hunter biden investigation. >> i promised the senate when i came on before it for confirmation that i would leave mr. weiss in place and that i would not interfere with his investigation. >> has anyone at the department told president biden to knock it off? with hunter. >> no one that i know of has spoken to the white house about the hunter biden case. >> reporter: and insisting no one ordered him to bring federal charges against former president trump. >> no one has told me to indict, and in this case, the decision

to indict was made by the special counsel. >> reporter: but the political interference accusations are sure to reimmerge, as the gop controlled house proceeds with an impeachment inquiry into president joe biden. >> these are allegations of abuse of power, obstruction, and corruption. >> reporter: leaving garland to fend off threats of being held in contempt. >> aren't you in contempt of congress when you refuse to answer. >> reporter: and democrats to defend garland, pointing out jim jordan's refusal to comply with the january 6th committee subpoena. >> that is quite rich because the guy who's leading the hearing right now, mr. jordan, is about 500 days into evading his subpoena. >> reporter: garland beating back criticism of the department and career civil servants, some of whom have been named by republicans, as they barrel ahead in their probe into alleged political bias at doj. >> singling out individual career public servants who are

just doing their jobs is dangerous. particularly at a time of increased threats to the safety of public servants and their families. we will not be intimidated. >> reporter: sara murray, cnn, washington. a quick note about the biden at the center of all this, hunter biden. late today we learned his arraignment on gun charges has been rescheduled to next to october 3rd. ray epps, the man at the center of right wing conspiracy theories about january 6th pleaded guilty today to disorderly conduct that day. at the end of today's hearing prosecutor michael gordon asked to make a statement and said eps was not before, during, or after a confidential source or undercover agent for the government, the fbi, dhs, or any law enforcement. that was the unfounded allegation before epps was charged. it continues to be part of the as yet unfounded argument that the justice department has been weaponized by the biden

administration. and that notion is motivating the impeachment probe. now, just before air time, i spoke with california democratic congressman ted lieu, who took part in today's judiciary hearing. >> congressman, what do you think your republican colleagues were trying to accomplish with this hearing? >> john, they were trying to distract from what democrats were trying to do, which is to help american people lower everyday costs such as drug costs and costs of insulin. republicans don't have a plan. and they can't even fund government right now, so they're doing these hearings where they're asking nonsensical questions of attorney general garland. that's what we saw today. we saw a circus because republicans can't move forward in governing. >> i want to play what was part of the house judiciary chair's jim jordan's opening statement. listen. >> the fix is in. even with the face-saving indictment last week of hunter biden, everyone knows the fix is in. there's one investigation

protecting president biden, there's another one attacking president trump. justice department's got both sides of the equation covered. >> what's your reaction to that? >> that is absolutely false. attorney general garland was very clear, the law applies equally to everyone regardless of your party or whether you're rich or poor or whatever race you are. the law applies equally in america. and i note that hunter biden has been indicted twice. >> congressman, you know, a cnn poll, majority of americans say they think that president biden had at least some involvement in hunter biden's business dealings. other polls say that nearly two-thirds of americans believe that hunter biden definitely or probably did something illegal. what, if any, questions do you think are appropriate to ask about the hunter biden investigation in an oversight hearing? >> the department of justice has

the facts. they've indicted hunter biden. it is an ongoing investigation. it is completely inappropriate for members of congress to interfere in ongoing investigations. and we'll know soon enough in a court of law what the facts are. and a jury will decide whether or not hunter biden gets convicted. that is a process. that's how the criminal justice system works in america. we don't have political interference from members of congress. >> the attorney general pushed back hard on allegations of political bias. do you think he pushed hard enough? what did you make of his response? >> attorney general garland was terrific at the hearing. he was honest. he was straightforward. he tried to answer the questions. and he repeatedly said, the law applies equally to everyone. he gave full discretion to u.s. attorney weiss for charging decisions with respect to hunter biden. and attorney general garland said he did not interfere in that case and will not interfere

in that case. >> do you support appointing david weiss as special counsel? >> i do. and i note that david weiss was first appointed by donald trump. >> congressman ted lieu, thank you so much for being with us tonight. >> thank you. some legal and political perspective on all this. cnn political commentator paul by gala and carrie cordero. i asked ted lieu about the tone attorney general garland set there. would you like to have seen more from him, maybe go full bull worth in his responses? >> actually, no. i thought the contrast was really marked. he's got way too low blood pressure for me, but i'm kind of a high blood pressure guy. i liked that when these people were coming after him and i think frankly showing themselves to be extremists or fools, he stayed calm. he stayed measured. and he stayed on message.

you heard ted lieu, the law applies equally to everyone. i will say, the one thing i would have pointed out if i were him, there's really good news here. the good news is the republicans have finally found a gun purchase they oppose. it happens to be from a harmless former addict, not from, like, a white supremacist or neo-nazi or someone on a terrorist watch list. there's one gun purchase they didn't like. i think garland is exactly right to be measured and judicious. >> carrie, i know this was a political proceeding, not a legal proceeding. but if you look at the lens from somewhere in between there, was there anything that the republicans got from merrick garland? was there any got you moment that would truly stick? >> no, i don't think there was anything that he said that was really unexpected or any big new revelation. i think, though, by having the hearing and by focusing the

majority of the hearing on the hunter biden case, they really put him in a position where there was no great way for him to get through this hearing because the approach that he's taken is to be completely hands off of that investigation so that there is no question that he is influencing it or making decisions in any way. so, he's given the u.s. attorney, now the special counsel in delaware, wide range to make the decisions in that case. what that means is that he's not -- the attorney general himself is not steeped in the facts of the case itself. so, he cannot answer substantive questions about it. so, then he can be criticized for that. on the other hand, had he gone in the other direction and said, yes, i'm actively managing it, i am fully briefed on it, i have consulted with the u.s. attorney, then that, of course, would open him up to tremendous criticism. so, he got through it the best way that i think he could.

>> paul, you've been through an impeachment or two, one with president clinton -- and when that one happened, it was seen as actually harming house republicans. it certainly didn't help them in the midterm elections there. what are the risks for the republicans holding this, doing this process? but also what are the risks for president biden here? >> well, let me start with the republicans. this is extraordinary. this is their agenda for real. they say they want to impeach the democratic president. they want to remove the republican speaker. they want to shut down the whole government. and they want to block every appointment of every admiral and general in america, crippling our military. that's their agenda. that looks extremist. you know, joe biden is weak in the polls. the country is moving in the wrong direction in the polls. republicans should have a very strong hand. but they are killing their chances. they really are. i'm being honest. they're killing their chances by seeming so extremist.

i did live through this with bill clinton. when the republicans shut down the government the year before his election, it took him from a guy that was trailing in the polls to a guy who was leading in the polls. it is a recipe for failure for them. joe biden, look, if they keep it up, kevin mccarthy and jim jordan have to register as a democratic super pac because they're going to save joe biden's bacon here. >> how much would the special counsel be able to testify to? they'll certainly have a lot of questions for him. >> i think it would be really hard for him to answer any substantive questions while the case is still pending. first we have to see whether there's going to be a trial, whether there's some path -- it seems unlikely -- but some path to renegotiating some sort of plea. i don't see how the special counsel, the u.s. attorney, could answer substantive questions about an ongoing investigation and not absolute

will you fly in the face of everything that merrick garland has said and everything that this justice department is about, which is the norms of the department historically to not talk about ongoing investigations. >> great to see both of you. thank you so much. next, cassidy hutchinson's january 6th groping allegation against rudy giuliani. how he's responding to it and perspective from someone who worked with her at the white house. later, new developments in georgia's rico case against the former president and a big question, is a key player in the effort to overturn the election about to flip?

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in a moment, we'll speak to a friend and former white house colleague of cassidy hutchinson, who had an inside view of january 6th, as an aide to then chief of staff mark meadows. her testimony before the house select committee was telling. however it's what she left out about that day and is alleging now is stunning. she said in a new book that rudy giuliani groped her on the steps of the capitol. the corners of his mouth in a chess shire cat smile. her account continues, we have the evidence. it's all here. we're going to pull this off. rudy wraps one arm around my body, closing the space that was separating us. i feel his stack of documents press into the small of my back.

i lower my eyes and watch his free hand reach for the hand of my blazer. by the way, he says, fingering the fabric. she goes on, i feel his frozen fingers trail up my eye. my eyes dart to john eastman, who flashes a leering grin. in a statement tonight, giuliani's political adviser calls the allegation, quote, a disgusting lie and says, quote, it's fair to ask cassidy hutchinson why she is just now coming out with these allegations as part of the marketing campaign for her upcoming book release. as for john eastman his lawyer denied the account and called the accusations liablist. joining us now, sarah matthews, who like cassidy hutchinson, testified before the house january 6th committee. sarah, what's your reaction to this allegation from cassidy

hutchinson? >> cassidy hutchinson is someone that i worked with closely during my time at the white house. when i was working on the press team, she was basically the right hand of mark meadows. so, any time we needed anything from the chief, she was our go-to person. so, getting to know her really well in that role and spending time outside of the white house with her, she was someone that i knew to be someone of good character, someone of integrity. and i have no reason to doubt her account of these events. i fully believe that she would be in a position like that, where she was in close proximity to john eastman and rudy giuliani. and it just tracks with the behavior that we've seen from rudy giuliani, where he's had a former associate come out and sue him for sexual assault and sexual harassment. >> have you ever heard of this specific allegation before? >> this is not something that i have ever discussed with cassidy and have not been familiar with until i heard about it. >> do those in the giuliani camp

question why he's just going public with this now, what would you say to that? >> i think, yeah, i've seen a lot of speculation online and criticism, including from giuliani's spokesperson, asking why is she coming forward with it now. but i think we have to keep in mind the power dynamic that was at play here. when this alleged incident occurred, she was 23 years old working at the white house and was allegedly groped by then a beloved national hero. this was america's mayor. so, i think to come forward with this kind of accusation is really scary for someone, especially of that age. but i think through the course of her testifying and finding her voice and being able to speak her truth, she now is in a position where she feels comfortable and can come forward with her truth on this specific matter. so, i think it's, kind of, gross to shame any victim for why they come forward when they do. but i think that that just goes to show why a lot of women don't

choose to come forward with these types of allegations, when their character is coming into question, rather than maybe questioning the person who's being accused of said crime. >> i've asked you a version of this question before. but what was the view of rudy giuliani from inside the white house, particularly toward the end of the administration? >> yeah. he was someone that i personally once looked up to. i mean, i grew up -- i was in the first grade when 9/11 happened. and i remember distinctly looking up to him as an american hero. and it's so crazy to think then that by the time i was working at the white house, that he was, kind of, regarded as a joke in many ways. i remember watching the press conference at the rnc with him and sidney powell and jenna ellis and making remarks to colleagues. and we were, kind of, laughing at the situation and talking about how it was a freak show. so, now to see where he's at,

where he has lost his, you know, license to practice law, he has these sorts of allegations against him for sexual harassment and sexual assault, it's, kind of, sad to see his fall from grace. but i think that clearly when he started pushing the lies that trump stole the election when there was absolutely no proof -- and there is still no proof to this day of any of the claims that they've made -- he, sort of, lost all credibility in my eyes. and many folks at the white house, a lot of people, were saying those things privately. >> sarah matthews, we appreciate you being with us tonight. thank you so much. >> yes, thank you. now an update from dysfunction junction. there are ten days left for the house and senate to agree on a string of budget legislation to temporarily prevent a government shutdown. for weeks now the house has been unable to do it because house

republicans haven't been able to get their act together. house speaker kevin mccarthy said his members are, quote, very close to an agreement on some kind of stopgap measure. any deal would have to be reconciled with the senate version. joining me now, adam kinzinger. congressman, great to be with you. the speaker sounds optimistic tonight that the house might be able to get something through. by that i mean the republicans would be able to get something through, but it would still be dead on arrival inside the senate there. where is this headed? is this still headed toward an inevitable shutdown? >> i'll tell you what, john, if i could, like, count the number of times i sat in this exact situation -- if people would pay attention to the script, this is every year. we're always down to the wire every year. it's always the same people holding out every year, and they always end up pass something that's not going to go past the senate every year. the play is let's get it out of

the house so we can go on tv and tell people we did our job and now it's the senate's job. here's the problem. they may get something passed. it's going to be a piece of garbage that everybody knows will never become law. this is my concern. the moderate wing of the party -- the so-called moderate wing of the party -- is seeming to capitulate on the issue of ukraine funding. that's something i don't understand. i don't know they're doing that. they have to start playing hard ball against the freedom club as well. but, look, do they end up getting something done? maybe. it's not going anywhere. and i think it's a pretty good shot we end up in a government shutdown. >> matt gaetz said today that any moderate republican that worked with democrats would be, quote, signing their own political death warrant. so, what do you make of that statement and of what matt gaetz is doing here? >> well, you know, matt gaetz is matt gaetz. he's not a serious person. he's a good speaker, and he does well on certain tv networks. but he's not actually interested

in legislating. so, this is what he does. he threatens big things. so, when he says, like, you know, you're going to sign your own death warrant, he's trying to put fear into so-called moderate republicans and say, look, if you go against us, we're going to primary you. all of this, by the way, everything that he says or that's said like this is all about a threat of a primary. that's unfortunately what drives the house of representatives, particularly republicans now. it's always a concern of a threat of a primary. unfortunately, i think in this case, you know, the moderate republicans are always interested in working together as a team. so, they're always the first to capitulate. we'll see if they hold out. gaetz has made it clear. he doesn't want ukraine money. he doesn't want any of this stuff. why people pay attention, i don't know. >> i've got to let you run. but if it comes down to survival of kevin mccarthy as house speaker, do you think democrats should step in to rescue

mccarthy? might they end up something they like even less than him if they didn't? >> they could. i don't think they should unless he basically promises he'll start passing bills with democrats. you're going to have to play the centrist game a little bit. but i don't think you'll see democrats come and rescue him. he hasn't done anything to earn that, i don't think. >> adam kinzinger, great to see you. thank you so much. coming up, the help the former president in his attempt to overturn the election results in georgia. now they're being called to testify for the prosecution. good news if you're vivek ramaswamy or nikki haley. bad news if you're ron desantis. the latest poll out ofof new hampshire of republican voters next. (jen) so we partner with verizon to take our operations to the next level. (marquis) with a custom private 5g networork. (ella) with verizon business, we get more control of production, efficiencies, and greater agility. (marquis) so our customers get what they want, when they want it. (jen) it's not just a network. it's enterprise intelligence.

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while republicans on capitol hill were trying to build their case against the attorney general and president biden, the georgia district attorney, who indicted the former president and allies on state rico charges, laid out her trial strategy in a new filing. among her key witnesses are names central to the alleged plot to overturn the 2020 election results. nick valencia is in atlanta with the latest here. nick, what more can you tell us about what the d.a. says and who it says is on the witness list? >> reporter: perhaps the biggest revelation of the day related to this case is on the list of state's witnesses is lynn wood who was never part of trump's legal team was did parrot a lot of things the former president was saying. wood was one of the most prominent peddlers of 2020 conspiracy theories. some people even described him as being unhinged.

we reached out to wood to get clarity to see whether or not he's cooperating with the district attorney. some have claimed he's flipped on the former president. wood did not confirm to us, but he did deny the claims on social media. saying, quote, i have no idea why i'm being asked to testify at the trial. i've had no discussions at the d.a.'s office since i testified several months ago. those special purpose grand jurors recommended for wood to be charged in this indictment, but the d.a.'s office declined to do so. his name was buried in a 100-page conflict -- cross examined by his former attorney, who's currently representing former doj official jeffrey clark in this case. john? >> what's going on with the fake electors who are trying to get their cases moved to federal court? >> so, this is a long shot, and we should remind our viewers that this very same judge struck down a similar motion of the

former chief of staff of the former president, mark meadows. but the case today was addressing motions. it turned into a pitch battle between the district attorney's office and defense attorneys, who claim that this was politically motivated. one of the defense attorneys said that trump supporters who participate are at risk of being indicted by the fulton county district attorney's office, saying the fake electors were doing their duty. the district attorney's office, they pushed back on those claims saying they were 100% unaccurate, borderline offensive. they said anyone who signed fake elector certificates, trump supporter or not, would face similar charges. now to the current presidential race. last night, as part of "360's" all over the map series, john king introduced us to republican voters in new hampshire. just months away from the primary, many told john they still support the former president. others clearly do not.

today, new cnn poll numbers verify that divide. the former president is at 39%. the big change in cnn's last new hampshire poll, four candidates now poll in double digits behind him, up from just one, vivek ramaswamy and nikki haley have doubled their support since july. chris christie is at 11% up from 6. now, ron desantis has taken a bit of a nose dive. two months ago, he was at 23%. today he's at 10%. essentially it's a four-person contest for second in new hampshire. john king is with us now. let's start with the biggest mover here, and it's ron desantis in the downward direction. what are new hampshire voters seeing and saying here? >> and remember, john, that's a big deal because he presented himself from the get-go as the conservative alternative to trump. he was trump without the baggage. new hampshire electorate is not

as conservative as iowa. desantis has lost mostly among moderates. look at christie's gain and haley's gain. trump is still a far away leader. trump in the mid, in this case the high 30s. it was the mid 30s in 2016 in a crowded field. he can be beat, right? more than six in ten republicans or people voting republican in the primary say they want someone else. desantis is suffering. trump wins when you have the fractured field. >> you mentioned independent minded voters. in new hampshire, they can make a huge difference in a primary, especially if there's only one competitive race. president biden doesn't have a supercompetitive race. there could be more people, including independents, who vote in the republican primary. chris christie saw a bump there. but are independents alone enough to make a huge difference in this field? >> i know. and the key question i have is how many independents are undeclared, as they're called in

new hampshire, go over to the democratic primary. some of them who previously voted for trump are attracted to robert f. kennedy jr. he says i'm the fighter against trump. i'm going to make the case that trump cannot win. trump is bad for the party. he's gone up. he has raised his floor and he's raised it quite a bit. but he has a ceiling in this poll. six in ten either republicans or republican-leaning voters say they would never vote for chris christie. so, yes, he's moving up, but he has to change that 60% who say never if he's going to really move up. >> so, four people essentially tied for second in low double digits. who's smiling when they look at that? >> nobody. i mean, donald trump is. none of those four -- look -- >> but donald trump -- why is donald -- why is that good? why is that good for donald trump? >> well, because as long as it's not consolidated around one other candidate, donald trump does what he did in 2016.

he's also leading this year in iowa. he came in second in iowa last time and new hampshire sent him on a slingshot. he's leading in iowa. that's going to get more interesting. you see desantis and scott trying to make abortion, cultural, evangelicals in iowa. you don't find them as much in new hampshire. okay. nothing has worked or at least hasn't worked well enough so far. if we're going to change the dynamic of this race, what do we do? trump, leading by big in iowa, leading by big in new hampshire -- although, again, those numbers show he can be beat. you need one person to beat him and it's all fractured right now. is there some other way, should i try something else? >> at that second event, if you're one of those tied for second, do you go after another second place candidate, or do you go after donald trump? >> that's a great question. the chess, right? if you're going to go after donald trump, you have to fundamentally change what you're saying. you're going to say he lost the

popular vote twice. he lost the electoral college to joe biden is 2020. he lost the republican majority in the house. christie does it, haley does it a little bit. most are afraid of doing that because you'll offend the trump voters who still believe he won in 2020. you are seeing it to adegree on the abortion issue, which might play in iowa, not so much in new hampshire. the other question is, they all look -- trump won't be there. do they look at each other and say, okay, is survivor second place edition? is that what this debate is about? is the second debate about can somebody emerge as the number two candidate as opposed to four of them? if there are three or four of them come january, february, trump wins. >> john king, great to see you. thank you very much. >> take care, john. next, chef jose andres talks to anderson about the continuous mission of his world central kitchen.

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jose talked about this with anderson. >> how are things going in morocco? i know you have teams on the ground there. >> we have great teams that got great experience in the earthquake in turkey a few months ago. so, kind of, the team is recreating the same mission this time in morocco with a complication that is very high up in the mountains. >> the atlas mountains, it's very difficult. >> we had to use helicopters because many of the roads, they've been cut off. they've been doing medical evacuations. so, fortunately, we don't solve major issues. we only bring food, water, some relief to people that are suffering a lot. >> you have a cook book out, the world central kitchen cookbook. all the proceeds go toward world central kitchen. it's not just really good recipes. it's also stories behind the recipes. they come from people all around the world, people you've met in the field, friends of yours. you even have, thankfully for

me, turkey -- which i'm very excited about. that's my go-to. >> everybody knows when anderson cooper is on a mission, his dish to go is -- i mean, you should write about the bolen yas you ate in your lifetime. this is a book, it's not really about the recipes. obviously the recipes are important because telling story of the different countries or the missions of the men and women of world central kitchen have been operating for the last 14 years. behind every recipe is a story of the person that made it happen, of the group of people that, under impossible circumstances, were able to be, six hours after a hurricane, there you're going to be learning, in essence, about the people that made those missions possible. >> it's also about making just with the ingredients that you

have and creating something you an unique from that. it's about improvising. this whole book is about, sort of, improvising. >> i think a lot of people in the essays that go alongside every recipe, they're going to be learning how world central kitchen keeps growing and adapting and learning from previous experiences. a lot of people always congratulate us because they say that we cook with local ingredients and local recipes. and i, kind of, laugh sometimes because what i tell them is, cooking with local ingredients and local recipes is actually the only thing we can do. why? because the local ingredients is what is available to us. the local people know how to cook the local ingredients. with those same ingredients. and at the end of the day, it's what makes a lot of sense. in the process, what would be easier? cook with something like around the corner or try to bring mres,

meals ready to eat, from 100 kilometers away, food nobody likes, that is very expensive, and requires a lot of infrastructure to bring from point a to point b. >> anthony bourdain would have loved this book. >> well, anthony bourdain, as you know, was a huge influence to not only me but many of us because i think he's a person that made the world more, a world that we all seem to be afraid of each other, he would be able to go to iran and make you feel like they're like us. a moment that seems we're scared of people that don't speak like us or they're different religions than us, anthony showed us that we were much alike and that we didn't have to be afraid of each other anymore. in a way, i know tony is looking down on us, and in essence, the

spirit of a person like tony is in this book. tony has always been the troubadour of the people. >> the book is "feeding humanity" thank you, jose. >> every disaster you go to, jose andres is there cooking. sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific right here. just ahead, the latest in our champions for change series. dr. sanjay gupta introduces us to laura bray. she nearly lost her daughter due to a shortage of a life-saving drug. she's now fighting to make sure thatat doesn't happen to other parents. booking.com, b booking.yeah ♪ ♪ moderate to severe eczema still disrupts my skin. despite treatment it disrupts my skin with itc it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema

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all this week we're bringing you amazing stories about everyday people doing the extraordinary to change our world for the better, people like laura bray. she fought to get a life-saving drug for her daughter. dr. sanjay gupta has more on this champion for change. >> four years ago, my husband mike and i were sitting in a hospital room, when our child abby was lyinged with leukemia.

i think anybody who's been in a life-threatening diagnosis, you know, will remember those moments. we go in, she's going to be able to have her chemo. so, she's not going to have -- today. how come? it's on shortage. abby is clever. nothing gets past her. and she just said, what does this mean? does this mean i die? >> she asked you that question? >> yeah, it's hard enough that my 9-year-old had to contemplate her mortality when she's diagnosed with cancer and also then wonder if she's going to survive because not enough drug was made. >> what she did next makes her a true champion for change. she put together a consortium of friends and family, and they essentially created a phone bank, calling more than 220 children's hospital around the country and asking all tof them

did they have the medication that could save abby. finally someone said yes. >> it was a relief and a release of all the stress. and then i felt tremendous guilt. i was haunted by the knowledge that somewhere in the country, some other mom and child was going to be going through the same hopeless conversation. we launched angels for change, and almost immediately people began to call. so, right now we're in a 10-year high. there's more than 300 essential medicine shortages. there's four key reasons why there's shortage. the lower the price medicine, the more likely it is to be in shortage. the more complicated the medicine, if there's a history of a qa event, all of it is made by one supplier or one area of the world, it's more likely to

be in shortage. >> i think we've gotten so used to thinking about things like amazon. they can anticipate when you're running out of toilet paper, when you're running out of dog food. you think the same thing would happen with life-saving medications. but that's not the case. >> the entire supply chain has to be engaged. >> so, i thought, what would it look like to partner with a manufacturer and use prediction. >> she calls it project protect, anticipating which drugs go into shortage and producing them with other companies before it's too late. their first effort, a $100,000 grant for the for-profit stack pharmaceutical to manufacture two specific drugs. >> potassium chloride and sodium chloride, which newborns, nicu patients, picu patients need to survive. >> it's like salt and pepper. you never think you're going to run out of those very simple things. >> jared milton oversees all

pharmacy and clinical services at children's hospital colorado. >> what if project protect didn't exist, what would have happened in that situation? >> i shutter to think about what we would have had to do. >> potassium chloride, one of the first drugs -- >> so, you're able to anticipate this shortage, basically at risk create the medications, and they did go into shortage. >> they did go into shortage. >> and -- >> more than 700,000 treatments were accessed. >> 700,000 treatments? >> yeah. >> that's incredible. >> it is incredible. >> when you see this now, laura, you see this coming off the lines, what's that like for you? >> what i see here is each one of those that's being filled up, seven to nine nicu babies that are going to get fed today. >> how is abby doing it? >> she's officially a survivor. she's doing great. she's a very normal, typical, bright, clever, fierce 13-year-old. >> she saved her daughter's

life. i mean, it's, kind of, incredible. not a lot of people get to say that. john, we report a lot on drug shortages. 300 drugs in shortage at the end of 2022. the average length of a shortage is a year and a half. it's hard to believe we spend $4 trillion on health care in this country and that's what we have to deal with. it's a challenging problem to fix, but you get a determined mom like that and she makes a difference in the system. >> it's wonderful that her daughter is doing okay and now she wants to spread that and keep it going for others. sanjay, thank you. great to see you. >> you too. the "champions for change" one hour special is saturday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern. the news continues.. "the source" is next.

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