>> turn on three, 60 follow-up in the first confrontation of the biden impeachment probe. and the question that follows. did the house republican clash with attorney general merrick garland to anything at all to help them make their case. also tonight stunning sexual misconduct allegations from the white house aide who saw so much on january 6th against one of the central figures of that day. rudy giuliani. and later, chef jose andrés. who's world central kitchen does so much for so many in need. talk to anderson about his new cookbook and his recipe for hope. good evening, john berman here in for anderson. today was essentially day one of house republicans biden impeachment inquiry. i was also day one of many in their confrontation with attorney general merrick garland over the justice department handling of the hunter biden investigation. he department prosecution of january six defendants,

including former president trump. and the weaponization of the doj. republican lawmakers calling what they are doing oversight. and oversight is important nobody who's in charge. those changes like this that raise questions about their definition of the term. >> do you support more crime? >> do i support more? crime >> no i don't. >> attorney garland today before the house judiciary committee, it was not the only confrontation or the sharpest more now from cnn's sara murray. >> attorney general merrick garland squaring off against his toughest republican critics on capitol hill today. >> the fix is in. even with the face saving indictment last week of hunter biden, everybody knows the fixes. in >> i am not the president's lawyer. i will add, i am not congresses prosecutor. >> republicans and house judiciary committee hounding garland for details about the

criminal investigation into hunter biden, after his plea deal imploded in july he was indicted last week in connection with the 2018 gun purchase. >> after five years, what stage are we in. are we at the beginning stage, the middle stays the, and stage, the keep the ball stage, what stage we? and >> i'm not going to discuss ongoing investigations. >> i think that's convenient. well we's whistleblower came in, the -- >> garland rebuffing republicans questions and deferring to special counsel david white was overseeing the hunter biden probe. >> i love to mr. weiss whether to bring charges or not.

that would include whether the statute of to let statute of limitations expire or not, whether it is sufficient evidence to bring a case that to the statute of limitations are not. whether there were better cases to bring or not. >> the attorney general reiterating that he stayed out of the hunter biden investigation. >> i promised the senate when i came before for confirmation and i would leave mr. weiss in place and then i would not interfere with his investigation. >> has anyone at the department told president biden to knock it off? with hunter? >> no one i know of as spoken to the white house has spoken about the hunter biden. cases >> and nobody asked him to bring four charges against former president trump. >> nobody told me to indict. in this case's decision to indict was made by special counsel. >> but the accusations are sure to reemerge as a gop-controlled house proceeds with an impeachment inquiry into president joe biden. >> these are allegations of abuse of power, obstruction and corruption. >> leaving garland to fend off threats of being held in contempt. >> aren't you in fact in contempt of congress when you refutes to answer? >> congressman, i have the greatest respect for. congress >> and democrats to defend garland, pointing out jim jordan's refusal to comply with the january 6th committee

subpoena. >> that is quite rich, because the guy who was leading the hearing right now is mr. jordan 's about 500 days into evading his subpoena. >> aren't beating that criticism of the department and career civil servants. some of whom have been named by republicans as they barrel ahead in their investigation into political bias at the doj. >> singling out individual career public servants who are just doing their jobs is dangerous, particularly at a time of increased threats to the safety of public servants and their families. we will not be intimidated. >> sarah murray, cnn, washington. >> so a quick note about biden at the center of this. hunter biden, we learned that is arraignment for gun charges has been scheduled for next week to october 3rd. also today wraps the man at the center of a right-wing conspiracy theories about january 6th, pleaded guilty today today to disorderly conduct that they. at the end of today's hearing, prosecutor michael gordon asked to make a statement in that it said that absent general six quote was not before, during or after a confidential source undercover agent for the government, the fbi, dhs or any law enforcement. that was the unfounded allegation before epps was charged. it continues to be part of the as yet unfounded argument that the justice department has been

weaponized by the biden pepper it administration at that notion is motivating the impeachment probe. not just before airtime, i spoke with california democratic congressman ted lieu, who took part in today's judiciary hearing. >> congressman lieu, what do you think your republican colleagues were trying to accomplish with this hearing? >> john, they were trying to distract from what democrats are trying to do which is to help american people lower every day costs such as drug costs and the cost of insulin. republicans don't have a plan, and they can't even fund

government right now so they're doing these hearings where they're asking nonsensical questions of attorney general garland. that's what we saw today. we saw our circus because republicans can't move forward in governing. >> i want to play what was part of the house judiciary gym chair jim jordan's opening statement. let's listen. >> the fix is in. even when the face saving indictment last week oven hunter biden, everybody knows they fixes in. there's one investigation protecting president biden, there's another one attacking president trump. justice departments got both side of the equation covered. >> what's your reaction to that? >> that is absolutely false. attorney general garland was very clear. the law applies equally to everyone, regardless of your party or whether you are rich or poor, or whatever race you are. the law applies equally in america.

and i know that hunter biden has been indicted twice. >> congressman, in a cnn poll a majority of americans say they think that president biden had at least some involvement in hunter biden's business dealings. other poll said it nearly two thirds of americans believe that hunter biden definitely or probably did something illegal. what if any question to you think are appropriate to ask about the hunter biden investigation in an oversight hearing? >> the department of justice has the facts. they have indicted hunter biden in its ongoing investigation. it is completely inappropriate for members of congress to interfere in an ongoing investigations, and we will know soon enough in a court of law what the facts are, and a jury will decide whether or not hunter biden gets convicted. that is a process. that's how the criminal system works in america, we don't have political interference for members of congress. >> the attorney general push back hard on allegations of political bias.

to you think he pushed hard enough? what do you make of his response? >> i thought attorney general garland was terrific at the hearing. he was honest, he was straightforward. he tried to answer the questions and he repeatedly said the law applies equally to everyone. he gave full discretion to u. s. attorney weiss for charging decisions with respect to hunter biden, and attorney general garland said he did not interfere in that case and will not interfere in that case. >> do you support appointing david weiss as special counsel? >> i do and i know that david weiss was first appointed by donald trump. >> congressman ted lieu thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you. >> some legal and political perspective on all this. with us cnn political commentator and democratic strategist paul begala and also cnn legal analyst carrie cordero. paul first you. i mentioned this to ted lieu, i mentioned the tone that merrick garland set their. it is more strident maybe more

than usual nothing compared to what he was facing with some of his questions from republicans there. would you like to see more from her, maybe a little more bolder in his responses? >> actually no. i thought the contrast was really marked. he's got way too low plot pressure from the. but i'm kind of a high blood pressure guy. i liked when these people are coming after me, and i think frankly showing themselves to be extremists or fools. he stayed calm, he stayed measure and he stayed on message. the one thing i would've

pointed out if i were him is there is really good news here. the good news is the republicans have finally found a gun purchase that they oppose. now we would have to be from a harmless former addict, not the likes of me and let's not sea but, there's one thing i like. but i thought garland was exactly right to be measured and judicious. >> carey, i know this was a political procedure in our legal proceeding but if you look at the lens from somewhere in between there, was there anything that the republicans got from merrick garland? was there any gotcha moment that would truly stick? >> no, i don't think there was anything that he said that was really unexpected or any big new revelation. i think though that by having a hearing and by focusing the majority of the hearing on the hunter biden, really put him in a position where there was no great way for him to get through this hearing, because the approach that he has taken is to be completely hands off of the investigation, so that there is no question that he is influencing it or making decisions in it on in any way. so he's given the u.s. attorney now the special counsel in delaware wide range to make the decisions in that case. what that means is that the attorney general himself is not steeped in the facts of the case itself, son so he cannot answer substantive questions about it. so then he can be criticize for that. on the other hand, had he got in the other direction and said yes i am actively managing it. i am fully briefed on it, i have consulted with the u.s. attorneys, and that of course would open him up to tremendous criticism. so he got through it the best way that i thought he could. >> paul, you have been through an impeachment or two, one with

president clinton. and when that one happened, it was seen is actually harming house republicans. it certainly didn't help them in the midterm election elections there. one of the risks for the republicans holding this doing this process? but also one of the risks for president biden here? >> well, let me start with the republicans. this is extraordinary. this is their agenda for real. they say they want to impach to democratic president, they want to remove the republican speaker, i want to shut down the whole government, they want to block every appointment of every admiral and general in america, crippling our military. that's their agenda. that looks extremist. joe biden's week in the polls, countries moving in the wrong direction in the polls. the republicans should have a very strong hand. but they are killing their chances, they really are, honestly, they're killing their chances by seeming s o

extremist. i did love this through this with bill clinton, when republicans shut down the government the year before his reelection, it took a guy who's trailing in the polls to a guy who was leading in the polls. that was just one of the fou r things that they are doing a. it is a recipe for failure for them. if they keep it up, if kevin mccarthy and jim jordan after robert registers us democratic super pac, still say joe biden. >> carry very quickly, jordan

was to get special counsel differ was before his committee next month or so. how much would the special counsel be able to testify though? certainly the level of questions for him? >> i think would be really hard for him to answer any substantive questions while the case is still pending. first we have to see whether there will actually be a trial, whether there is some path it seems unlikely, but some path to renegotiating some sort of plea. i don't see how the special counsel, the u.s. attorney could answer substantive questions about an ongoing investigation and not actually fly in the face of everything garland has said and everything this justice department is about which is the norms of the department historically to not talk about ongoing investigations. >> paul begala, carrie cordero thank you so much. next cassidy hutchinson's january 6th groping allegation against rudy giuliani. how he's responding to it and the perspective of someone who worked with her at the white house. and later, new developments in georgia's rico case against the former president. and a question: is a key player in the plot to overturn the election about to flip? wins the series.] struck out with the cheap seats? important things aren't worth compromising. at farmers, we offer both quality insurance and great savings. (crowd cheers)

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we are citi. ♪ in a moment we'll speak to a friend former colleague of former white house aide cassidy hutchinson who was an aide for chief of staff mark meadows. her testimony before the january six house committee was great. but what she alleged was stunning. she said in her new book that rudy giuliani groped her shortly before meeting at the white house capital. said chinese man watched. or she said most broken new chester can smile, any move towards me like a wolf moving in and it's.

pressure account continues. we have the evidence, it's all here, we're gonna pull this off. rudy wraps one arm around my body, closing thspe that was separating us. i feel his stack of documents press in the small of my back. free and reach for the ham of my blazer. byhe way he says fingering the fabric, i'm loving this leather jacket on you. his hand slipped under my blazer, then my skirt. she goes on, i feel his frozen fingers trail up my thigh. he tells his chin up, the whites of his eyes look jaundiced. my eyes dart to john eastman flashes leering grin. in a statement tonight giuliani's political advisor ted goodman calls the allegation quote, a disgusting lie and says quote, it's fair to ask cassidy hutchinson why she's just now coming up with these allegations from two and a half years ago as part of the marketing campaign for her upcoming book release. as for john eastman, his lawyer categorically denied cassidy hutchinson's account and called the allegations libelous. joining us now, former trump deputy press secretary sarah

matthews who like cassidy hutchinson testified to the january six select committee. what's your reaction to this allegation from cassidy hutchinson? >> cassidy hutchins is somebody that i worked with closely at my time with the white house, when i was working with the press team, she was basicall y the right-hand of mark meadows. so anytime we needed anything from the chief, she was our go-to person. so getting to know her really well in that role in spending time outside of the white house with her, she was someone i knew to be of good character, someone of integrity and i have no reason to doubt her account of these events. i fully believe that she would be in a position like that where she was in close proximity to john eastman and rudy giuliani, and it just tracks with the behavior that we have seen from rudy giuliani where he has that a former associate come out and sue him for sexual assault and sexual harassment. >> have you ever heard about the specific allegation before? >> this is not something that i have ever discussed with cassidy and have not been familiar with until i heard about it. >> to those in the giuliani camp in question why she just going public with this now,

what would you say to that? >> i think, i've seen a lot of speculation online and criticism including from giuliani's spokesperson saying why she coming forward with it now, but i think we have to keep in mind the power dynamic that what is a play here. when this alleged incident occurred, she was 23 years old working at the white house, and was allegedly groped by then a beloved national hero. this is america's mayor. i think to come forward with this kind of accusation is really scary for someone especially of that age, but i think through the course of her testifying and finding her voice and being able to speak

her truth, she now is in a position where she feels comfortable and can come forward with her truth on this specific matter. so i think it's kind of gross to shame any victim for why they come forward when they do, but i think that just goes to show why a lot of women don't choose to come forward with these types of allegations when their character is coming into question rather than questioning the person who is being accused of said crime. >> a bastille version of this question before about what was the view of rudy actually any from inside the white house, particularly towards the end of the administration? >> he was somebody that i personally once looked up to. i grew up, i was in the first grade when 9/11 happened, and i remember distinctly looking up

to him at his american hero. it's so crazy thinking that by the time i was working at the white house that he was kind of regarded as a joke in many ways. i remember watching the press conference at the rnc with him and sidney powell and gianna ellis and making remarks to colleagues that we were kind of laughing at the situation and talking about how it was a freak show. now to see what where he is that he has lost his license to practice law, he has these sorts of allegations about him for sexual harassment and sexual assault, it's kind of sad to see his fall from grace. but i think that when clearly he started pushing the lies the trump stole election when there was absolutely no proof and there still is no proof to this day of another claims that they made, he sort of lost all credibility in my eyes, as did he with many of the folks at the white house. a lot of people were saying those things privately. >> sarah matthews, we

appreciate you being with us tonight. thank you so much. >> yes, thank you. >> now an update from one of keeping it honest statement from dysfunction junction. they're just ten days left in the house in the senate to agree on a string of budget legislations to temporarily prevent a government shutdown. for weeks now the house available to do it because house republicans really have made a look at their house together. house speaker kevin mccarthy was facing rebellion from the far-right members, says members are very close to an agreement on some kind of a stopgap measure. any deal that would have to be reconciled with the senate version. joining us now, one of speaker mccarthy's former conference members, senior cn n political

commentator adam kinzinger. i don't, great to have you with us is. that they might be able to get something through, by that i mean or republicans might be a look at something through but it would still be dead on arrival with the senate there. so where is this headed? it's still headed towards an inevitable shutdown? >> i'll tell you what don john, if i could count the number of times i sat in this exact situation, if people would pay attention to the script, it's every year, and we're always down to wire every year. so always the same people holding out every year, and i always and not passing something that's not gonna blow past the senate every year, but the play is, let's just go get it out of the house, now we can go on tv say we got it out of the house, announced to send its problem. they make get something passed, it will be a piece of garbage that everybody knows it won't become law. we're gonna see again this, is my concern the so-called moderate wing of the party, it seemed to pick through late on the issue of funding, i don't

know why they are doing that. they have to start playing hardball against the freedom club as well. but look, to the end up getting something done? maybe, it's not going anywhere, and i think it's a pretty get shot we end up in a government shutdown. >> matt gaetz, you talked about moderate democrats, he said that any moderate republican that worked with democrats would be quote citing their own political death warrant. what do you make of that statement of what matt gaetz is doing here? >> well you know, matt gaetz is matt gaetz. he's not a serious person, who's a good speaker need a certain well on certain tv networks because not actually interested in legislating. this is what he does. he threatens big things. so when he says you can assign your own death warranties, try to put fear in the moderate republicans, so-called moderate republicans and say, look if you go against us we are going to primary. all of this john by the way, interviewers need to know this, everything that he says or that is said like this is all about a threat of a primary.

that's unfortunately what drives the house of representatives particular the republicans. it's always over the concern of a threat of a primary. unfortunately i think in this case, the moderate republicans are always interested in working together as a team, so the first to capitulate. we'll see if they actually hold. outlook gaetz has made it clear, he doesn't want ukraine money, it is not any of the stuff, so why people pay attention to him i don't know. >> i've got to let you run but if it comes down to a vote for survival of kevin mccarthy as house speaker, do you think democrats should specks step into rescue mccarthy? might they end up with something they like even less if they didn't? >> they could. i don't think they should unless he basically promises he'll start passing bills with democrats. enough to play the centrist game a bit, but i don't think you'll see democrats coming in to rescue him, and quite honestly he's done nothing to

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and president biden. the georgia district attorney who indicted the former president on state r.i.c.o. charges laid out her strategy and state falling. among our key witnesses are named central to the alleged plot to overturn the 2020 election results. nick valencia is in atlanta with the latest. nick, what can you tell us about what the dea says and who it says is on the witness list? >> perhaps the biggest revelation of the day related to this case is on the list of states witnesses is lin wood, was never officially part of trump's legal team, but did hear a lot of the things the former president was saying. wood was probably one of the most common peddlers of the election theory of his election lost. he fired a foot series of baseless claims, some people even described him as being unhinged. we reached it to wood to get

some clarity to see if he's being actually cooperating with the district attorney's office. some say he's flipped against the former president. but wood did not respond to us, but he did deny that those claims on a social media post. this is what he had to say in part. saying quote, i have no idea what i am being asked to testify at the trial. i have had no discussions with the d. a.'s office it's i testify both of the special grand jury months ago. special purpose grand jurors recommended would to be charged in this indictment, but the's office refused to do so. his name is buried in a more than hundred page filing and ideas of us were referring to conflict of interest. what would have to be cross-examined by's former attorney is currently representing doj official

jeffrey clark in this case. >> what is happening with the fake electors who were trying to get their cases moved from state to federal court? >> this is a long shot. we should remind our viewers that this very same judge struck down a similar motion from the former chief of staff to the former president mark made us. but the case today was intended to address these technical issues, with turning to a pitched battle between the district attorney's office and defense attorneys who claimed that this was politically motivated. back one of those defense attorneys claimed that trump supporters participated in the political process or risk of being indicted by the fulton county attorney's office saying, that they were trying to do their civic duty to contest the 2020 election keep his hopes alive. the pushback in a claim saying there were 100 percent inaccurate, saying they were borderline offensive, and saying that anyone who signed fake elector certificates would face charges. >> nick valencia thank you very much. race as part of ac360 all over the map series, introduc t -- fit many told john they still suppt e former president. others in the independent state say ey clearly do not. cnn poll numbers, to that he's at 39%, the big change to cnn's new hampshire poll. four candidates now pulling double digits bynum. vek ramaswamy and nikki haley

have doubled to 5% since july. chris christie's at 11% up from six. rodentis has taken a bit of a nosedive. o nths ago is a 23%, today's it 10%. esntially is a foreperson contest for second in new hampshire. john king is with us now. let's start with the biggest mover here and it's ron desantis in the downward direction. what to new hampshire's voters saying and seeing here? >> remember john that's a big deal because he presented himself from the get-go as the conservative alternative to trump. it was trump without the baggage. while he is suffering right now. you know this well. you have actors electorate is not as conservative zion. what is happening? desantis is lost mostly among

moderates. look at the other games look, at ramaswamy's, game near l. a.'s game, is coming at desantis expense. trump is still a faraway leader. a little déjà vu all again here. amid i-30 is, it was the mid 30s in 2016 in a crowded field. he can be the right? or than six and ten republicans are people are gonna vote republican in the primaries say they want someone else. but desantis is suffering, frank says trump wins when he is a fractured. feel >> we mentioned independent minded voters, in new hampshire they can make a huge difference in a primary especially there's only one competitive race. president biden doesn't have a

super competitive race. there could be more people including independents who vote in the republican primary. chris christie saw a bump there. but our independents alone enough to make a huge difference in this field? >> no, and the key question i have is how many independents are undeclared as they're called a new hampshire, over to the democratic primary. because some who previously voted for trump are attracted to john of kennedy junior. look at kristie, he says i'm the fighter against trump. and to make the case that trump is bad for the party. so he has gone up. he has raised his floor, and he's raised it quite a bit. but he has a ceiling while six and ten republicans or republican-leaning voters say they intend to vote in the primaries say they would never vote for chris christie. he is moving up, he has to change that 60% would say never fees in test really move up. >> so for people essentially tied for second and low double digits. who's smiling when they look at that? >> nobody. donald trump is. >> but why is that good? >> it's good for donald trump. >> well because as a long long as it's not consolidated around one of the candidate, donald trump does what he does in 2016. plus the difference is he's also leading in iowa. came in second last time. then you have your set among the slingshot. the rest was history after you won new hampshire. he's leading in iowa.

that's gonna get more interesting. you see desantis trying to make abortion amongst evangelicals. you don't see that so much in new hampshire. watching the candidates heading into second debate. nothing's work, to lisa marie so far. if we're gonna change than i had vivek in this race what do we do so far? trump leading thinking you have cheerleading, begun iowa, haley's numbers say it can be, you need one person to be. anybody but trump has to figure out is there some other way? or should i try something else? >> that second debate, we have about 45 seconds left. if you're one of those tied for second, to you have to go another second place candidate, or do you go after donald trump? >> that's a great question. the chess right? it's gonna go after donald

trump, you have to fundamentally change what you're saying. have in his say, he lost the popular vote twice. he lost to the electoral college to joe biden in 2020. he lost the republican majority in the house. most of them, christie does it, haley does it a little bit, the most of the others have been afraid to do it because you are finding some of the trump voters who still believe he won in 2020. that's my first question. anybody make a fundamental reassessment about trump? you are seeing it to a degree on the abortion issue which might play in iowa iowa iowa not so much new hampshire. if the question is trump won't be there. they look at themselves and say, is survivor second place edition? that with this debate is about? the second debate about can somebody emerge as the number two candidate as opposed to four of them. if there are three or four them come january fabric, trump winds. >> you can say their call a b one. john king, great to see you. thank you very much. >> take care john. >> next chef josé andrés talks toanderson about the continuingmission of his world centralkitchen and a great testing wayfor home cooks to help its mission.

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world central kitchen cookbook, feeding humanity, feeding hope. jose andreas recently talked about this with anderson. >> so, it is great to have you. great to see you. first of all, how are things going in morocco. you have teams on the ground, there. >> well, the great thing is that we have great teams with great experience and this earthquake in turkey a few months ago, and so the team is recreating the same mission this time, and morocco. the complication is that it is very rural, high up in the mountains. we have to be using helicopters because many of the roads have been cut off. they have been doing even medical evacuations at times. fortunately, we can't solve any major issues, we can only bring food and water, some relief to people that are suffering a lot. >> this book that you have, a cookbook out, the world central kitchen cookbook. all the other proceeds go towards world central kitchen for relief. what is fun about it is it is

not just good recipes, but stories behind the recipes. they come from people all around the world, people you have met in the field, friends of yours, you even have, thankfully, for me, turkey bolognese, which i am very excited about. that is my go-to. you have a very nice turkey bolognese recipe. >> everybody knows that when anderson cooper is on a mission, his dish to go is -- i mean, you should be pride about the bolognese as you ate in your lifetime. >> a fascinating book, yes. >> but yeah, this is a book that is not really about the recipes, even obviously in essence the recipes are important and tell the story of the different countries and missions that the women and men have been going for. kind of a recipe is a story of the person that made it happen, of the group of people that, under impossible circumstances were able to be feeding people six hours after a hurricane in the north part of famous.

there it will learn and essence about the people that made those missions possible. >> it is also about making something with the ingredients that you have and creating something unique from that. it is about inspiration, and you are improvising. this whole book is about improvising. >> i think a lot of people in the essays to go alongside every recipe are going to be learning how world central kitchen keeps growing and adapting and learning from previous experiences. a lot of people congratulate us because they say that we cook with local ingredients and local recipes. i kind of laugh sometimes, because what i tell them is, cooking with local ingredients and local recipes is actually the only thing we can do. why? because the local ingredients are what is available to us. the local people know how to cook the local ingredients.

with those same ingredients. at the end of the day, it is what makes a lot of sense. in the process, what will be easier? cook with something around the corner, or trying to bring meals ready to eat from 100 kilometers away of food that nobody likes and is very expensive and requires a lot of infrastructure to bring from point a to point b. >> anthony bourdain you would love this book. >> well, anthony bourdain, as you know, was a huge influence on not only me but for many of us because i think, he is a person who made the world smaller. it is a world that we all seem to be afraid of each other. he would be able to go to iran and make you feel like they are like us. in a moment it seems like we are all scared of people that don't speak like us or our different religions than us, anthony bourdain was the one that showed us that we were much alike, and that we did not

have to be afraid of each other anymore. in a way, i know anthony is looking down on us and in essence, the spirit of a person like tony is in this book. he has always been the trophy door of the people. >> the book is the world central kitchen cookbook, feeding humanity, freezing feeding hope. josé andrés, thank you. >> every disaster you go to, josé andrés is there helping. this weekend, watch more of chef josé andrés when cnn presents a original of josé andrés and family in spain, sunday nine pm eastern pacific, right here. just ahead, the latest in our champions for change secrets, sanjay gupta discovers as to a woman who almost lost her daughter due to a shortage of lifesaving drugs. she is now fighting to make sure that doesn't happen to other parents. ♪

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you amazing stories about everyday people doing the extraordinary to change our world for the better. people like laura break. she fought to get a lifesaving drug for her daughter, and now is trying to ensure that no other parent has to go through what she did. doctor sanjay gupta has more on this champion for change. >> four years ago, my husband mike and i were sitting in a hospital room when our child, abby, was diagnosed with leukemia. i think anybody who has been in a life threatening diagnosis will remember those moments. we go and, she will be able to have her chemo, but not able to have erwinaze today. how come? it is on shortage. abby is clever. nothing gets past her, and she just said, what does this mean? does this mean i die? >> she asked you that question? >> yes, it is hard enough that my nine year old had to

contemplate her my mortality when she was diagnosed with cancer, and then also wonder if she was going to survive because not enough drug was made. >> what she did next makes her a true champion for change. she put together a consortium of friends and family and essentially created a phone bank, calling more than 220 children's hospital around the country and asking all of them, did they have the medication that could save abby? finally, somebody said yes. >> it was a relief and a release of all the stress. and then i felt tremendous guilt, and i was haunted by the knowledge that somewhere in the country, some other mom and child was going to be going through the same, hopeless conversation. we launched angels for change, and immediately people began to call. right now, we are on a ten-year

high for drug shortages. there is more than 300 essential medicine shortages. there are four key reasons why there is a shortage. the lower the priced medicine, the more likely it is to be in shortage. the more complicated the medicine, if there is a history of a cue a event, then all of it is made by one supplier or one area of the world, it is more likely to be in shortage. >> i think we have gotten so used to thinking about things like amazon. they can anticipate when you are running out of toilet paper, dog food. you would think the same thing would happen with lifesaving medications, but that is not the case. >> the entire supply chain has to be engaged. >> so, i thought, what would it look like to partner with a manufacturer and use prediction? >> she calls it project protect, anticipating which trucks could go into shortage and producing them with other companies

before it is too late. their first effort, a 100,000 dollar grant for the for profit stacked pharmaceutical to manufacture to specific drugs. >> potassium chloride and sodium chloride, which newborns, nicu patients, pick you patients need to survive. >> it is like salt and pepper. you never think you will run out of those very simple things. >> jared milton overseas all pharmacy and clinical services at children's hospital, colorado. >> what if project protected not exist. what would have happened in that situation? >> i shudder to think about what we would have had to do. >> potassium chloride -- >> so, you can anticipate this shortage, basically at risk, creates the medications, and they did go into shortage? >> they did go into shortage. more than 700,000 treatments were accessed. and what we know -- >> 700,000? >> yes. >> that is incredible. >> it is incredible. >> when you see this, now, you

see this coming off the line, so to speak, what is it like for you? >> what i see here is, every which one of those being filled up is seven tonight nicu babies will be fed today. >> how is abby doing? she is officially a survivor. she's doing great. she is a very normal, typical, right, clever, fierce 13 year old. >> she saved her daughter's life. it is kind of incredible. not a lot of people get to say that. john, we report a lot on drug shortages, i don't know if you caught that, but 300 drugs in shortage at the end of 2022. the average length of a shortage's a year and a half. it is hard to believe we spent four trillion dollars on health care in this country and that is what we often have to deal with. it is a challenging problem to fix, but to get a determines mom like that, and she makes a difference in the system. >> that is what we need. it is wonderful that her daughter is doing okay and now she wants to spread that and keep it going for others and

make such a difference. sanjay, thanked, great to see you. >> champions for change one hour special is saturday night at eight pm eastern. the news continues, the source with kaitlan collins is next.

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