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the ukrainian president and the american lawmakers. zelenskyy is on capitol hill making a plea for more financial help. and rudy giuliani being described as a wolf closing in on the prey as cassidy hutchinson states in her new memoir, and giuliani is responding. and kaboom! is the sound that you will hear as rupert

murdoch steps down at fox. i'm john berman with kate bolduan and sara sidner here at cnn "news central." >> all right. happening right now, ukrainian president zelenskyy is in washington, and he is making the rounds. he is going to be leaving capitol hill for the pentagon where he is going to be lay a wreath at 9/11 memorial. you see him walking in where the democratic leaders of the house and senate. and then he satdown with the house members, and specifically no meeting with the house republicans which is critical, because zelenskyy is urging more aid in funding in congress as some hardline republicans are

pushing back, and essentially sag there is no money here for you are right now, and this is as russia is launching a new wave of attacks on ukraine, and five major ukrainian cities were targeted overnight. the new images of the utter devastation is coming in which is a grim reminder of zelenskyy's urgent and desperate pleas for assistance for his people. ahead of the meeting later today with president biden. oren liebermann is there at the pentagon, and zelenskyy is headed there this hour, and what are the meetings expected to be like there, and what is he expected to see? >> well, kate, let us show you a picture of the river entrance, and this is where the yu yanian president volodymyr zelenskyy is expected to arrive and lay a wreath from the 9/11 memorial which is on the far side of the pentagon. our producer, haley britski is

out there, and she says it is the largest crowd she has seen out there in years. pentagon secretary of defense lloyd austin is going to be out there, and also mark milley. this is going to be a significant meeting, and it comes eight days before his retirement, and a new chairman comes in, the former chief of staffs of the air force coming in, and that vote taking place last night. this is a chance for zelenskyy is to point out what weaponry he is looking for, and what type of aid package he is look for later today. is in the middle of the busy day, and the schedule of events for zelenskyy, because he was at congress earlier today, and he met bipartisan members as well as chuck schumer and leader

mitch mcconnell, and the house leadership. he is expected 11:45 for the wreath laying. the meetings with milley and austin in between and then he goes to the white house. the first lady of ukraine is expected to speak at georgetown, and then the biggest event of the day is the president and first lady to meet at the white house. we expect that arrival any moment, but it is not the beginning, but the middle of the day for zelenskyy, and then it continues from there. kate. >> i did not realize that this is the first time to go to pentagon which is very significant which is especially the final meeting for mark milley with the official capacity as milley is retiring. great that you are there, oren. but zelenskyy is going to need to keep up with the pace to keep up with the military precision and timing. >> he has a lot to go on with

his country with missile strikes. to the white house and on that agenda, arlette saenz, how is the white house viewing his visit and what they are expecting. >> president biden is expecting to hear a battlefield perspective from president zelenskyy as they assess what additional needs that zelenskyy needs as the war against russia is well into the second year. in addition to the meeting today, president biden is going to be approving an aid package, and artillery, anti-aircraft systems, and anti-missile capability ies capabilities, and what it does not include is the long range military tactical systems that have a longer range and firepower, and the white house

has said it is not off of the table to provide them at some point, but they are not expected to be off of the package even as zelenskyy told our colleague wolf blitzer that he would be disappoint if it is not something that comes. and so he is here to convince the lawmakers for the continued and sustained support for his country. it is coming at a time where there is not a debate among the capitol hill, but also in the american poom. there is a weariness of the people leaving their children, and if you are breaking it down, the known number is higher, but the president is making a force ful case to pass for house ott representatives where the republicans are facing real opposition. kevin mccarthy is not sure he would bring up ukrainian aid for

a vote by the end of the year, which is speaking for the complicated difficulties of zelenskyy and president biden to convince the people that they need more money to continue with the war, and fight the consequences that the war of russia could have around the wor world. >> and there is an immense amount of work to do today. thank you. and now, trying to avoid a government shutdown, but it is unclear if kevin mccarthy will have the votes pass. there is another option on the table a bipartisan deal put together by the house problem solvers caucus. melanie zanona is there on capitol hill, and joining us.

there is a number of paths, but hearing from the republicans, and if they are feeling that the moderates are taking, and it is a clown show, and what do you think that might just stop a shutdown from happening? >> well, first let me they the house gop plan would not stop a government shutdown, because it is dead on arrival, because it is consensus amongst republicans, and they are trying to find the level of negotiations, and that, and with a number of oppositions, there are a group of hard-liners who say they will oppose any short term spending bill under any circumstance. and i spoke up with one of those supporters matt gaetz.

and of course, trump is going to be making kevin mccarthy's life more complicated, but there is a bipartisan plan to come which is hatched out with growing frustration from the gop and republican colleagues, and that plan would fund the government to january, and including ukrainian and disaster floor. they are looking to lead around time consumer. another deal is to ask kevin mccarthy if he is motivated to vacate that speaker chair. no word on how they are going to avoid aefrt a government shutdown. >> we see you inside, and outside as well, and we are waiting for zelenskyy to come out and wait for comments. thank you, melanie. >> it is always good to have class outside.

joining us is the democratic councilwoman from pennsylvania, christine houlihan, and thank you for joining us. kevin mccarthy says he has a plan, and does he have a plan in terms of getting these spending bills ready to be i think that whatever it is, it is a nonserious solution, and whatever it is, it e involves ukraine spending or disaster spending, and that is tep nabl on his side of the party as well. >> and one thing is a bipartisan agreement, and how ready are you the run to the assistance of kevin mccarthy? >> well, so don't know if running to the assistance of kevin mccarthy would yeehaw praise it. but it is my responsibility to do the things that are good

about this compromise and i have been in the conversations of what a compromise would look like. we need to be grown-ups, and i am hoping that kevin mccarthy is going to realize that there are 435 of us, and come to work with us as well. >> live pictures of whether the president will run long now. how important in your mind, zelenskyy, to get everything that he wants from the united states? >> well, my father was born in what is now ukraine and what is now poland and lviv, and this is important to all americans, because it is an existential threat to the world. and so this visit is timely, and emphasizing the importance to all of us with the support for him, and the other nations as they fight democracy across the

world. and this meeting break up, a bipartisan meeting, but there are some needs to limits such as cluster weapons. >> to me, that is not something that would be useful at that point in time, and not necessarily sustainable when there was a peace, because these are very, very dangerous weapons, with that i am a part of another committee on congress that is concerned about unarmed weapons such as mines that the drone could agra vachlt.

>> representative, as you mentioned, you are an air force veteran. late yesterday, finally, the senate did vote to confirm a new chair of the joint chiefs. the holdup had been assistance, funding assistance to pay for travel for reproductive health care. what's your view of the senate finally getting a few of these confirmations through, and the fact that tommy tuberville has been able to hold them up to long on that issue? >> so, i have been very vocal and outspoken about what senator tuberville is doing, is asinine and harmful to the military readiness, and harmful to recruit in the military, and the responsibility is to do no harm, and not dissimilar to the

hypoh hippocratic oath. and he has relented in that we were able to eke out a few nomination, and this is the beginning of getting this process to have our military ready. >> again. zelenskyy is shaking hands of both parties, marcsha blackburn there and ted cruz earlier. and now, there is a bill where josh shapiro wants to make voting registration universal when you get your license. >> i hope it is going to make a difference that every eligible voter has a opportunity to start. i hope that it is going to be a to vote, and that is a great first step to make sure that everybody who wants to vote has the right.

>> thank you, congresswoman. we will listen in to president zelenskyy for a moment. >> thank you for having me here in the white house of the united states. we have spoke n and now togethe with this important work to talk to those who are worried about our plans and i think that we have had very strong very strong ties. >> what is your message to vladimir putin? >> thank you. >> what is your message to vladimir putin? >> i am not speaking to him. what is your message to vladimir putin, and he said i am not speaking to him. he said that he had a good

dialogue to the united states senate, and it is as good for you with pictures and he has the republican minority leader mitch mcconnell on one side, and the democratic leader chuck schumer on the other side, and this is intentional to show the bipartisan support. wait, let's listen. >> we would like to thank for helping us, and work on so many details. and sorry, thank you. >> do you think that you will get the money that you -- he is scheduled to go off to the pentagon and then the house, and we will hear more later, and mitt romney and susan collins, and others in this bipartisan meeting. >> it is so great to have live camera in that room lingering, because that never happen. these behind closed door

meetings, we never get that view through, you know, into the room like that. seeing the kind of the behind the scenes moment of zelenskyy meeting with the senators and getting the pats on the back by a group of bipartisan group of senators. that is something as someone who ran around those halls for years, and the will rogers area there. >> and shaking his hand. >> and you said it perfectly, it is the picture and what we could not hear, because the audio was not great in the echoing halls, but the image of mcconnell and schumer standing side by side with him walking through the halls of congress, and the message that he wants to spend. and great interview there. >> and so, now after four months of striking in hollywood, is a

breakthrough on the way? the big names are headed back to the tables, and what this mean for the production companies and the strike organizers. and rupert murdoch is heading to the sidelines, the former president of fox corp and fox news. and now, also, what we have with new allegations against rudy giuliani, and what aide cassidy hutchinson said happened toto her on january 6th. it's daniel jones, holyly mackerel. up against christian mccaffery. for a touchdown! as the new york giants take on the san francisco 49ers. stream thursday night football. only on prime.

all right. you are looking at the live pictures right now outside of the pentagon where in a few moments, we are expecting the ukraine president zelenskyy to arrive there. he has just left the capitol and on his way. he will be greeted by an honor cordon and defense secretary lloyd austin as well. as i mentioned, h left the capitol, and we saw his face, and we saw him smile with lawmakers from both sides of the aisle stands next to him and notably the leadership of the senate. we will bring that event to you at the pentagon live ahead of one of the world's most influential news em pires -- an we are moving on to this story that broke during our news. rupert murdoch is going to step

down as president of fox news and news corp. today. at 92 years old, murdoch says it is time to take on different roles. oliver dorsey is joining us, and katy larson who is with the media times. and oliver, you reported this a couple of hours ago, and give us a sense of what this means not just for the murdoch family, but for fox as a whole. >> this a huge moment, because rupert murdoch is one of the most powerful company, and murdoch corp is the head of fox news, and new york journal and other notable print news. he is teping down at this time, and pivotal time in media as there is a shift from linear television to streaming, and also at a pivotal time for politics where the 2024 presidential election is heating up. murdoch is responsible really

largely for a lot of of the right wing rhetoric that has satisfied the digital discourse, and his information follows the vaccine, and the election, and settled a lawsuit with dominion over election lies. if you think that fox news is going to temper the right wing rhetoric, i warn you that in the note here he is suggesting that lachlan shares the ideological perspective saying that there is a battle for the free speech, and a battle for the freedom of thought, and lachlan is a firm believer in freedom, do not vision over at fox >> and he is said to be more further right and more conservative than his father.

what should people expect to see on fox business, fox news? >> sure. i think that it is correct that lachlan is considered very conservative, and perhaps even further to the right than rue bert. it is going to remain to be seen whating now, when he looks to stop, he is around for advice, so i don't know how much is going to materialize. we won't notice a difference of the programming on fox news or fox channel. lachlan has been the heir apparent and that he is going to continue the legacy in how his father is staying competitive. >> this is a big moment. i want to ask you, oliver, was this expected? a lot of people were looking at rue bert murdoch's age at 92,

and a lot of talk, and books written about when get out of the picture like lee, but is this expected? >> well, he is 92 years old and he is running a huge global operation. so, you know, maybe not too surprising that he wants to give the throne officially to his son lachlan. of course, lachlan has been chief executive of fox corporation for the last several years, and this is not going to disappear, because he is going to be around for advice and involved in the contest of ideas, so maybe he is not making day-to-day business decisions burk he is certainly going to be

there looking at the big picture, and someone that lachlan can count on the help guide limb as the media, these media company, and they reach an familial intersection, and will the other children have any roles? >> i think that -- sorry. >> that is to katy, oliver. >> yes, and the question that everyone is asking, and it is all boiling down to family trust of which the children each hold a stake, but the older mr. med dose needs to have a ability to be up to date, and he has placed

the bets on lauklan, but we want to see if the children will vote against him or separately, and we don't know what is going to happen. that has been a question that has been around for some time. i think that one thing that is important to note here, as oliver noted, fox is going through incredibly tumultuous time this year, and it is a tough time in media as well. so this succession is really them showing that there is something happening here, and it is just business as usual, and planned succession, and you know, it is going from the hands of rupert to lachlan and trying to portray that the company is operating in an orderly way. >> yes, and you agree and almost finishing each other's sentences in that people won't change a whole lot of what people see on air? >> that is correct. i would not expect immediate changes. >> i am sorry, oliver, i have to cut you off, i apologize, because we are watching the pentagon, and you can see lloyd austin there, and president

zelenskyy is coming ut anout an talking. >> sir, what do you need from the pentagon? >> sir, will you send the attackums to ukraine? >> sir, why won't you approve those attackums. okay. so we have watched volodymyr zelenskyy on capitol hill be greeted at the door of his car by lloyd watson and going inside to have a bilateral meeting going on there, and after the meeting they are all expected to go to lay a wreath at the 9/11 memorial, and significant moments as ukraine is in the

midst of a terribly deadly war, and zelenskyy is asking for more help for his country. kate. we will follow those developments, and we are also watching closely this, a possible breakthrough in hollywood after nearly five months of the standoff. the studios and the writer's union seem to be ik mag strides in contract -- be making strides in contract negotiations. they are planning a second day of talks. yesterday ended with people feeling, quote, encouraged is how they said close no discussions. and issued a joint statement that they will be meeting again today, and that is in itself a sign of progress. natasha chen is live in los angeles, and at this point, the strike has been dragging on, and gone on for months now. how significant would a deal be? >> very significant, kate.

the fact that they got together, and the talks did not go well, and it is a good sign they are back at the table this week after more than 4 1/2 months of being on strike for the writers. and of course, the actors joined them for the last two months. and just to remind folks, because it has been several months what the writers are fighting for. and take a look at the bullet points. they would like to see the better residuals coming to streaming content, and right now, one of the problems is that when you are watching a netflix show or a show on any streaming platform, there is very little information of how many times that is viewed versus a traditional network show where those residuals, and people would wrant to have an artificial intelligence taking over a lot of the writing, and they would like to see the minimal staffing levels and duration of the employment

instead of what is trending to what is called the mini rooms. so there are a lot of the issues that they have to go through. and there were ceos of major studios in the room yesterday. the ceos of disney, warner brothers discovery, netflix, nbc universal, and so, yes, the description is that they were feeling encouraged by this, but there is a lot of skepticism as well with the rank and file writers, and our show caught up with noah wile who you may remember from "e.r." >> it is significant and if we can get back to production, we can finish by the holidays, and if not, it is de facto pushed after the holidays, because nobody wants to push to get back to work after that, and so it is going to be a tight christmas for a lot of people and really uncertain new year. >> it has already been extremely

tight financially and not just for the actors and writers, but so many businesses that support businesses in california and georgia and new york, and a number of layoffs have happen hd, and the millken institute says that the damage has pushed $5 billion and push pg $6 billion and we will see what happens with today's talks. >> natasha, thank you for keeping a close eye on this. john? >> new allegations of groping against rudy giuliani, and the white house aide who says it happened the day of the capitol attack, and how giuliani is responding.

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this morning, a 9-year-old girl is among seven people injured after an overnight aerial attack on kyiv. new video in showing the firefighters rushing to put out the flames after that attack. the explosions just lit up the kyiv skyline. they say they targeted energy facilities in kyiv and other cities. the barrage is coming as the ukrainian prosecutors are investigating more than 3,000 cases of alleged russian crimes against children. that children alone. yesterday, secretary of state tony blinken described toll of

the people of ukraine while speaking to the u.n. >> soldiers forced more than 300 civilians, mostly women, children and elderly people into a basement and not fit for human habitation. there was no room to sit and let alone lie down. when they cried out to their captors that people were sick and needed medical care, the russian soldier yelled back, let them die. the russians only allowed removal of bodies once a day, so children, parents, and husbands a wives were forced to spend hours next to the corpses of their loved onces. >> the secretary is describing there is torture. and joining us is dr. alice jill edwards a u.n. special entre

peentrepor for the torture of war. you have explained your findings on the ground in ukraine, and to summarize some of what came out of your line, two lines stuck out to me. russia's armed aggression is becoming synonymous with torture and other inhumane cruelty, and even worse was this, these grievous acts appear to be neither random nor incidental, but rather orchestrated as part of a state policy. what did you see or find that led you to a horrific and brutal conclusion? >> thank you so much for having me on, and for continuing to broadcast these important issues. look, it is a very grim situation, and seems to be getting worse as the conflict

continues. i met with a number of victims and survivors with detention by russian occupiers, and the women and children and their stories harrowing with the brutal or the chus -- torture by the direction of highest ranks, and i have sent arun -- a u.n. report to describe this. and nothing has been responded. >> and this is directed to the top leadership from russia, and what have you heard from russia about this?

>> i have submitted a number of cases that came from a large collection of credible testimonies back in june, and they had 60 days to reply, and they have not done so. this letter i sent is part of the procedures i am part of which is to advise the human rights council of the united nations. vi put them on notice essentially that they are required and duty to investigate and prosecute their own forces who may have been engaged in the conduct. according to the ukrainian authorities they have opened up 1,903 case of criminal behavior and of detention cases, they report that 90% of the soldiers as well as civilians are

reporting torture, and other forms of inhumane treatment. the people i spoke to both victims and survivors, but the advocates and lawyers, i found the information to be credible. i found a pattern of abuse, and a system of abuse. you can't turn a blind eye once you are on notice, and if you don't do anything about it, it is part of state policy. >> everyone would have be excused to have very little confidence that the russian president would be changing tactic at this point if they have little confidence or hope that it would happen. because as vladimir putin currently himself is facing war crimes at the icc. so short of making war end, if you will. do you think that anything is going to stop this behavior as it drags on? how do you hold these people

accou accountable? >> look, the road to peace and justice is always a long one. what i was impressed about in this conflict and compared to many others is that the documentation and investigation of such war crimes is being undertaken in realtime. they are conducting as best as possible with the resources they have, which is increasing all of the time, and forensic dock yu men takes as well as taking the testimonies and as well as providing the support to victims and survivors, but short of the end of the war, there are challenges to the investigations and prosecutions that the ukrainians don't have control over much of the territory in which such crimes are being committed. i also heard worries now amongst the ukrainian authorities that in fact after the prisoner swaps those left behind are treated

far worse than those released kind of an intimidation and threat to all of us in the international community not the speak up and to speak out. so, it is a worrying trend. peace really is the only way to solve it. >> it is so horrific to even have to report on, and let alone the stories that you heard directly from so of the people who suffered, who have suffered through this, and it continues on and on, and as you have seen in your opinion which is so crucial is that you have seen it as a state policy now, and systemic policy which we directed from the russian leader. dr. alice jill edwards, thank you very much for your work and coming on, and we will continue to follow it. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> john? all right. breaking news, a sign that house

speaker kevin mccarthy is losing or maybe has lost control of the republican caucus. he just lost a major vote on the house floor. melanie zanona is live on capitol hill, and leadership did not see this coming, and what happened? >> no, they did not. we asked them that after that, and they said, no, they did not see this coming, and this is an embarrassing defeat for kevin mccarthy and the leadership team, and the second time that a procedural vote on a defense bill has failed on the house floor for this week. and they usually don't fail at all. usually, it is party votes that go and they put it back after it failed earlier this week, and they had a two-hour meeting, and worked out the differences and they had a path ahead, but it turns out they didn't. two republicans who voted for the same vote this week, flipped

and they voted against it. so the math problems are getting worse, and the big picture here, john, the house is paralyzed right now. they can't move forward, and they are trying to do the spending bills on the long term, and they can't do that, and the short term funding bill, and they can't do that either, and they won't have are the bills, and the strategy of kevin mccarthy to try to work within his own ranks and only do things with the votes of his republican party is clearly not working, and so he may have to work with the democrats to get things done, and there a growing frustration in the party right now in the gop with each other, and with each other's colleagues, and you might start to see that happen, but the problem is if mccarthy works with the democrats he could face a motion to vacate his speakership. the house is paralyzed. >> i know it is arcane, but it

is a spending bill that goes down, and this is arcane, but kevin mccarthy and the team had been expressing optimism, and they thought they fixed it, but it is the exact opposite and lost votes from where they were and does he have a plan? >> that is great question. i don't think that kevin mccarthy even knows what the plan is at this point. as of right now, they were planning to put a short-term spending bill on the floor sat da saturday and then put it back on the floor monmonday. but it is going to be a big decision for kevin mccarthy to make, and when you ask them what they need or want, they don't have an answer, and kevin mccarthy loaded up the bill with the it still was not enough.

there's just some members who agitating for a fight and a shutdown. that's the problem for kevin mccarthy right now. >> government shutdown hangs in the balance, kevin mccarthy's job as speaker very much hangs in the balance this morning. melanie zanona, keep us posted. obviously, a lot of breaking news. we'll be right back. ♪ (upbeat music) ♪ ( ♪ ) woah. ( ♪ ) ( ♪ ) ( ♪ ) ( )

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duty personnel to help at the border. ed lavandera is live from eagle pass right now. what are you seeing? you're literally right there near the border. >> reporter: we're right on the river here in eagle pass. if you look just down the embankment into the rio grand, you can see right now there's a group of close to 100 people. i have been speaking with them. there's about 100 migrants from venezuela who crossed over here this morning, where we have seen hundreds of crossings this morning. we have seen also federal border agents process ing many of the migrants who have been able to make it through some of the wire that goes a rather long distance through this section of eagle pass. but many of the people who are down there who i've been talking to say they are not willing to go back across the river into mexico because it's simply too dangerous over there. many of the people say they have been waiting a long time to get

here to the united states. so here they sit in a very precarious and dangerous situation on the bank of the river here in eagle pass. and they i say they have been robbed. they have been attacked by mexican authorities on the other side of the boarder. that's why they are not willing to go across here. i asked one of them that crossing this way between ports of entry that the like lihood, according to federal authorities here, is that the likelihood of being returned and deported after being processed here in the united states is very high. they simply just told me that's a risk that they are willing to take. so this is the situation that many border communities are finding themselves in as they are coping with this large surge of migrants arriving here in the united states. really focused on this area of eagle pass, south texas and the el paso area as well. we have seen several hundred high grants who have managed to

get through some of the wire that extends a long distance here south out of eagle pass here. so a situation where exactly how this is going to unfold and what is going to happen to these people as they sit here and they are telling us they are unwilling to go across the river because it's too dangerous over there. >> the desperation has kept them there. ed lavandera, i know you have been there and in el paso. thank you soft for that reporting. >> a lot of breaking news. volodymyr zelenskyy in washington, d.c. kevin mccarthy, the house speaker, try os to hang on to his job. this has been "cnn news central." "inside politics" is up next. (e) (energetic music plays) there he is! it's right there! ♪ oh, he's straight ahead.d. he's straight ahead. straight ahead. gogo go go. ♪ cover more ground in the kia sportage turbo-hybrid.

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