i'm not sure where the airplane is. >> it would take more than a full day to find where that $100 million aircraft went down. the cause of the crash remains under investigation. . >> good news, a 4-year-old girl back safe with her family after police say she walked barefoot three miles into the woods with two family dogs. michigan state police put out requests for drones, search and rescue, canine teams. neighbors formed a search party and she was found sleeping using one of the dogs as a pillow. police reportedly said the second dog, a rottweiler, was in, quote, guardian mode. isn't she just so preciously cute? we are so happy she's fine. thank you so much for joining us. cnn primetime with abby phillip starts now.

♪ tonight, a sitting united states senator is accused of using his official position to help a foreign power in exchange for riches and rewards. and while the allegations of cash, gold bars, even the convertibles, are getting all the attention, the other end of those alleged bribes is downright chilling. the justice department indicting senator bob menendez and his wife among allegations he sought and received sensitive information about u.s. diplomats in egypt, information that eventually made its way to people with ties to the government. in addition, prosecutors say that he gave nonpublic information about u.s. military aid. also accused of ghost writing a pitch to senators on behalf of a foreign government. that would ease restrictions on arms and ammunition to egypt.

those restrictions in place in part due to concerns about human rights and democracy. all of this as he is chairing the senate foreign relations committee, one of the most powerful positions in the entire government. these schemes allegedly ended with stacks of cash, more than a dozen gold bars, help on mortgage payments, a mercedes-benz convertible. you're seeing right there pictures of the evidence. but the timeline is important and also stunning here. this alleged conduct started not long after melendez escaped conviction on previous bribery charges when a jury deadlocked, but also it allegedly began around the same time that he said this about then president donald trump. >> the american people deserve to know who they elected to be their president. they deserve to know if he's in fact putting america's interests

first. they deserved to know if donald trump is wittingly or unbyingly an agent for the russian federation. congress must carry out its constitutional duty to fully and thoroughly investigate where the facts lead. >> tonight, the pressure is mounting. the number of democrats calling on him to resign is growing. both from congress and his home state of new jersey. but menendez is maintaining his innocence. he says his ethnicity is to blame. "those who believe in justice believe in innocence until proven guilty. i intend to continue to fight for the people of new jersey with the same success i've had for the past five decades." this is the same record of success these very same leaders have lauded all along. it is not lost on me how quickly some are rushing to judge a latino and push him out of his seat. i am not going anywhere." as for the man in charge of the united states senate, chuck schumer is praising menendez's

work, says he is temporarily stepping down from the foreign relations committee, and he says menendez has a right to due process and a fair trial. that may be so, but many of his fellow democrats aren't as forgiving, including my next guest, joining me now, new jersey democrat steven philip, mayor of jersey city, also a candidate for new jersey governor in 2025. mayor, thanks for joining us. you are now a part of this growing chorus of democrats calling on senator menendez to resign. what did you find to be the most damning allegation in the indictment against him? >> i mean, i think your intro was pretty spot-on. if you read the indictment, i mean, it was 40 pages. it read like a boogie script. it was hard to take in from dma on money, gold bars, of course cars, then giving information to the egyptian government. so it was kind of really kind of a salacious 40 pages.

and it makes it really hard to say that everything in there is not true. maybe senator menendez could defend some of it. it would be really tough to say any component of that is defensible, if any of it. >> tonight senator menendez is pushing back on calls to resign. he says, as we read, "it's not lost on me how quickly some are rushing to lunch are judge a latino and push him out of his seat." he says he's not going anywhere. do you make of that, that this is about his ethnicity, to trying to push out the highest-ranking latino in the senate? >> any reasonable person knows it's not about ethnicity. bob men then nez is not a tough guy. he's not going to bow down to pressure. that's unfortunate, the pressure's going to build. it's not in his dna to resign. so absent the senate taking action, you know, i think he's going to dig in. and you know, from a democrat

standpoint, it's really hard to be critical of indictments that surround former president trump or be critical of clarence thomas and then at the same time from a senate standpoint not take aggressive action against bob menendez with the same sort of allegations. >> mayor steven fullup, thanks for joining us tonight. former special assistant to president biden, michaela ross sa. shermichael singleton, cnn political analyst. laura baron lopez. and former federal prosecutor joseph moreno. joseph, i want to start with you here. as the mayor said, it really does read like a movie script. meeting a girlfriend, marrying her quickly, she just happens to have contacts who are close to the egyptian government that then are seeking information from a sitting united states senator. how strong do you think this

indictment is? >> gold bars, wads of cash, a mercedes convertible? tawdry, absolutely. but tawdry does not always equal illegal. supreme court has made it pretty difficult to bring these bribery cases against elected officials. you need not just quid pro quo, you need an official act, an exercise of governmental power. a vote on something, approval of a policy. when i go through basically those four kinds of conspiracies that senator menendez is confused, i sew holes in at least two of them. >> what about providing that information? according to the allegations, he received -- sought information from the united states government that was nonpublic and provided it to these contacts who then passed it along to the government. >> unclassified but sensitive, absolutely. but he's not facing espionage charges. maybe he should be, but they're not in there. again, it looks really bad, optics are horrible here. but as defense counsel, i can

definitely poke holes in this. >> michael? >> i think one of the things i noticed today, it was a very splashy presentation. sometimes i think -- i'm not a lawyer, but from a communications perspective, it seems as though when prosecutors make these kinds of large presentations before the media, sometimes it seems like their cases might be weaker than perhaps we think they are and are trying to argue their case in the public opinion instead and that's why they're doing the visual presentations. >> i mean -- go ahead. >> no, i was going to say, i don't think that the seat will be competitive from a political perspective. whether he should resign or not, you know, i think -- what's funny about my party is, we quickly fall apart, whereas the other party tends to fall in line pretty quickly. we have no problem throwing each other under the bus, eating our young. it seems like republicans stick with each other. >> look, i hear what you guys

are saying. but again, just a normal person reading this document, what it sounds like he's being accused of doing is taking money, almost $500,000 in cash, in exchange for providing information -- actually, even acting to facilitate the interests -- >> there's no doubt it looks terrible. but should he be held to a different standard when it comes to running for office than santos or donald trump? >> well, actually, that's exactly the question. >> that's a fair critique, but i would say as someone who had a top-secret clearance, i've gone through that process, this has been a one-year investigation. this guy's the chair of the foreign relations committee. the second most prestigious, one of the most powerful senate committees that's over foreign relations for this entire country. essentially acting as a foreign agent against the interests of the united states. i agree, george santos is a problem and republicans should have expelled him from the house. but i expect democrats, including the president, to

speak to this. because if this were a republican, i would argue that the expectation would be for republicans to speak out against that individual. >> how, if you are senator schumer, would you be able to say that george santos, for example, should leave the house and not say that the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee, who's under this kind of investigation, should not be in that post? >> that's exactly why i think you're seeing so many democrats, in particular new jersey democrats -- the governor of new jersey, also a number of menendez's colleagues in the house, saying he has to go, he has to resign. because -- even one of his former colleagues, tom malinowski, who used to serve in the state department, said, how can we as a party be calling for donald trump, say that donald trump is not fit for office, but then not call for the resignation of menendez? it doesn't look as though it will be sustainable position from schumer to not speak out

more aggressively on this matter. >> he's also now bringing in the fact that he's the highest-ranking latino in the senate. >> his state is 22% latino. he has a huge base of support. this is like a kennedy in massachusetts. >> abby, i would say that's like clarence thomas all of a sudden saying, but i'm the black guy on the supreme court. i'm not exactly sure how much room he has to maneuver by saying, i'm the senior latino in the united states senate. i think this puts democrats in a very precarious political predicament. they've gone after donald trump under the idea donald trump would somehow sell the secrets of the united states to any highest about iter. here you have bob menendez, chairman of the foreign relations committee, essentially selling secrets to a foreign interestly, at least acting in the interests of a foreign en entity. i think democrats have to address this. >> help me understand this. sounds like you're saying, generally speaking, unless he

took a vote for the egyptian government, he can accept hundreds of thousands of dollars in gold bars, he can accept $500,000 in cash, in exchange for facilitating their interests informally? almost like a lobbyist would, from the halls of the united states senate. is that what you're saying? >> don't get me wrong, i'm horrified by this -- >> i'm just asking. i think that's kind of what it sounds like you're saying. >> if you're looking at purely legalistic, it has to be official act. throughout the indictment you'll see that term peppered throughout. it doesn't mean they can prove that beyond a reasonable doubt. setting up meetings, making phone calls, right? establishing goodwill in terms of a relationship. those are not official acts. >> sharing staff details about a u.s. embassy in egypt? >> it's wrong, but it's not part of his job as being a senator. making votes, making nominations. maybe putting a hold on foreign aid. now that's a good one --

>> you say his role as a senator to access that information -- if he were a regular joe, he would not have access to that. >> that's right, this is the loophole. bob mcconnell from virginia, bob menendez, that's why they couldn't get him the last time. if they can drive through the same holes that prevented the doj from getting him the first time around. >> shouldn't we have standards about ethics in this country? whether republican or democrat, i think the american people have expectation elected officials serve our interests, not their own interests, let alone the interests of a foreign country. that appears to be what menendez is doing. >> do you think on the issue of trump, the central issue for trump with democrats is law and order. can they make that case with this sitting in front of them, bonn menendez? >> given the speed of how many minnesota new mexicos, including the governor, have come out to say he should resign. as soon as lawmakers come back next week, they'll be back by tuesday, they are going to -- democrats are going to be

peppered with questions in the senate -- >> the president will, too. >> the president as well. and i think that we are going to see more and more democrats start to say that he should resign. >> we should be clear. a lot of the democrats that came out tonight, they want his seat. because these seats don't come up very often in massachusetts, new york, new jersey. the governor would probably love to run in a year for that seat and spend his own money, millions of dollars, running for senate the way he did for governor. several congressmen who have been in office for decades want that seat. >> i imagine they also want that seat because menendez has been indicted twice in the last decade and it seems like it ought to be -- >> they spent $30 million against him last time and he still won by 12 points. now he's running in a presidential year. >> this will help him. >> stranger things have happened. interesting conversation. we'll continue to follow this story. coming up next tonight, we are now seven days away from a government shutdown. next, i'll speak live with one

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you're looking there at live pictures of capitol hill where the clock is really ticking on a potential government shutdown. it's just now seven days away and time is of the essence. except that most members are now nowhere in sight. they were sent home for the week without a clear plan after conservative hardliners once again scuttled kevin mccarthy's plans. one of those hardliners, congressman matt gaetz, joins me now. thanks for being here, congressman. >> absolutely, thanks for having me, abby. >> we should note you are still on the hill. so i'll take that as a sign, perhaps things are moving forward. but i have to ask you, because this is starting to come to a head here. if speaker mccarthy puts a continuing resolution on the floor to keep the government open for 30 days, is that enough

to get him out of his job? >> i agree with many who say, if speaker mccarthy embraces a clean continuing rest resolution to continue the spending policies of nancy pelosi and joe biden, that would most likely trigger a motion to vacate. remember, i gave a speech last week detailing multiple areas where kevin mccarthy has breached his agreement with house conservatives. there was a big thrust of that that was the spending commitments. also a vote on term limits, a vote on a balanced budget amendment, release of the january 6th tapes. these are things kevin mccarthy promised, he hasn't done those things, we're here to hold him to account. i left a meeting with congressman biggs about the finer points of our department of homeland security appropriations bill. we have a rule being drafted right now so that we can pass appropriations bills for our military, department of homeland security, for our agriculture priorities, and also the department of state and foreign ops. those will have a good

amalgamation of policy and spending cuts and put our country on better fiscal spotting. >> do you have support to take away mccarthy's gavel? >> depends on the democrats. i saw in an interview this morning that democrat whip katherine clark said if democrats were to bail out speaker mccarthy, they would require concessions. that should trouble a lot of republicans because if we have a republican speaker who is working for the democrats, because they're the ones who bailed him out, then i doubt we'll be able to make much progress to the voters who elected us. >> what i'm really asking is, what's the plan "b"? if not mccarthy, then who? you? >> no, i don't want to be speaker. but i do know we have a very talented group of members. it's a little uncomfortable to discuss right now because our number two who would be naturally someone we would look to is right now getting treatment for blood cancer and is not with us. we hope he has a full, fast recovery and be right back into our leadership structure.

number three is tom nimer. he's our whip, a lot of credibility across different sections of the conference. getting rid of mccarthy if he has failed us for eight months, delayed the appropriations process as even his allies conceded earlier this evening in the rules committee, getting rid manyis an end unto itself. it shows we've got the ability to pivot, make a better choice, and go forward and actually deliver. >> how is getting rid of mccarthy an end unto itself? if you get rid of him but you can't elect a replacement who will do what you want them to do, that seems to kind of defeat the purpose. do you have the votes, do you think, to elect someone who, in your view, would be better than mccarthy? >> oh, sure. i think if we were back in a speaker contest, there be any number of people who would be able to assemble a coalition -- >> there weren't the last time around. >> right, but we've had eight months of experiences that inform how we think about these things now. eight months ago, kevin mccarthy

hadn't broken the series of promises that he only made at that time. eight months ago, kevin mccarthy hadn't stalled the appropriations process. i mean, a democrat from colorado, joe neguse, made excellent points haranguing some of the republicans in the rules committee, gosh, if the border's such a priority, if the appropriations committee had a border funding bill in the su summer,did more than 100 days pass before kevin mccarthy put that legislation on the nor? we don't have good answers to those questions other than the fact that it's always the parlance in washington to just wait until the very end and then jam all these bills together and get one up or down vote on funding the entire governmentress that is the way we have run since the mid-'90s. i'm trying to break the fever and liberate us from those upper on down votes and get to single subject spending bills. that's an idea even those on the left support because it's a more transparent, honest, and open government. >> a number of your republican colleagues say that they're at a

loss for understanding your strategy. listen to what they have to say. >> what are you asking for? we're trying to pass appropriations bills, you won't let us do that. i think everybody's just confused. there's not rational explanations on the opposition. >> at the end of the day, any final bill is going to be bipartisan. and if somebody doesn't realize that, they're truly clueless. >> i understand what you're saying, that you want to take this bill by bill. but the question is, how will you do that in the next seven days in a bipartisan way that will end up with something that is the law of the land? >> there's no doubt that we are behind in the house of representatives because we are poorly led. but my friend and colleague dan crenshaw, he probably should have watched your program ten days ago when i laid out exactly what we want. a vote on term limits, a vote on

a balanced budget amendment, single subject spending bills. we've been dilatory and delayed in that. it was frustrating to me that yesterday, 3:00 on a thursday, kevin mccarthy sent everybody home as if we're operating in the french workweek. we should be starting at 7:00 in the morning, finishing at midnight, getting our work done. there are members from across the congress and the republican conference who are here doing that. but we are doing that in spite of our poor leadership. certainly not because of it. and to my friends and colleagues i would say, pretty simple, we want to vote individually on these appropriations bills and we will not tolerate them being lumped together. >> i think a lot of americans would agree they'd like to see folks working through the weekend to resolve this before there's a government shutdown. but i wonder, i mean, don't you think it is reasonable for members -- i mean, you heard mike lawler there talking about a bipartisan fashion. don't you think it is reasonable for them to work on the other side of the aisle if it means

avoiding a shutdown that can actually hurt americans, including thousands of your constituents? >> no doubt. and mike lawler's right. the final solution in divide the government always has to be bipartisan. but the question is, what platform, what paradigm do we use to engage that negotiation? i believe that we should negotiate each agency of government and each appropriation bill separately so that we get to a programmatic level of analysis. what i disagree with is the notion we should start with the premise that we just fund everything the way it's been going the prior year, whether it's worked or not, whether it's exceeded its expected distributions of funds or not. you see, that just leads to more of the same. it's actually precisely the reason that we are $33 trillion in debt, facing $2 trillion annual deficits. we cannot go on as a country that's spending $7 trillion and bringing in $5 trillion.

>> i understand what you're saying about spending levels. how do we get from point "a" to point "b," from where we are right now which seems to be chaos to a point where there's a solution and the government's not shut down in a week? this could have real impacts on a lot of federal workers. people working without pay, military service members who are actually in the line of fire right now, in harm's way right now. are you confident that this will not have a shutdown, will not have a national security impact on this country in addition to the economic impact that it will have? >> we have endured shutdowns before. and while they're certainly not helpful and they do bring pain upon americans who have done nothing wrong to lead to us that moment, we're at a moment right now where we have to take the bold action to break the fever, to stop governing by omnibus and continuing resolution. i am not certain we are going to avoid a shutdown. but a shutdown of maybe 10 or 11

or 12 days certainly is different than a shutdown that would span multiple pay periods for federal employees -- let me make this one other point. >> how long would you go in a shutdown? >> i don't want to go at all, and the sooner we can get the government funded, the better. but there's a reason why we put the defense appropriations bill and the homeland security appropriations bill first, because we want to be able to say as house republicans that we moved options for the senate and democrats to negotiate with us on the military spending bill so that our troops are paid and on the homeland security bill so that we pay our border patrol and i.c.e. so there is a reason why we have prioritized some of our bravest and most valued fellow americans in what we're going to fund. if democrats and senators have ideas on those, we'd like to senate them, we're just not going to negotiate through the context of how washington has always worked with continuing resolutions and omnibus bills. >> i should note you did vote against the defense appropriations bill this week --

>> no, i didn't. >> the rule -- the rule to -- >> abby, this is going to be a very embarrassing moment when the internet corrects you on this. i voted for the defense rule both times. >> well, i stand corrected. congressman, appreciate you joining us tonight. thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up next, the mayor of dallas is leaving the democratic party to join republicans. i'll speak live with the head of the dallas democratic party who will respond to that. plus, melinda french gaits joins me on health care, on the strikes, and on criticisms of vice president kamala harris. >> i think it's ridiculous that when a woman reaches the position that she has reached, that they're asked whether they have the skills or they're qualified.

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backlash and some pats on the back for the mayor of dallas, texas, tonight. eric johnson announcing that he is switching parties from democrat to republican in a swurnl op-ed. he slammed the party which he was elected by saying, "the

future of america's great urban centers depends on the willingness of the nation's mayors to champion law and order and practice fiscal conservatism. our cities desperately need the genuine commitment to these principles as opposed to the inconsistent poll-driven commitment of many democrats that has long been a defining characteristic of the gop." joining me to respond to this is kordell coleman, party chair for the dallas county democrats. erratic johnson is blaming democratic policies for exacerbatesing, in his words, crime and homelessness. "crime and tax policies" are the reasons he's breaking with your party. what's your response to that? >> absolutely untrue. we can see in democratic cities throughout the country where crime is lower than even in republican states. we cannot allow these false tactics, fake news, if you will, to be shoved down the throats of texans and the voters in texas.

>> one of the things we should note for context, the city of dallas, he's been leading the city of dallas for some years now. the murder is down in the city over 15% over the last two years. rapes are down 40%. robberies down nearly 30%. aggravated assaults have declined 5%. it seems like his approach is working. but his approach has been characterized by kind of being at odds with democrats in the city. so how is he wrong to take a different approach from the party that he has been affiliated with? >> well, you know, things have been working in dallas. not only these numbers of these metrics. but we have to include community policing, conversations with our neighbors. we have been doing that type of work. so to take a pivot right now at this time, we have to ask the critical question, why now? what is it that's on the other end of this that you're not being transparent about with voters? >> you're saying he's taking a

pivot. the point i am making is he would say he's been governing from a centrist position. >> sure. >> and it's working. >> as far as the metrics? >> that's what he would say. >> i'm sure he would say that. >> you don't think it's working? even though the data seems to show that it might be? >> i believe that the data seems to point to that fact. however, if it is working, why now switch teams? that's the question. >> he also earlier this year invited republican senators ted cruz and john cornyn to his inauguration. both senators spoke highly of him. is there anything wrong with having bipartisan relationships? or do you think that this was a deception to the voters who elected him, basically as a progressive, as a democrat, although in dallas there's a technicality, they don't technically have party affiliation. >> sure. >> he was elected as a progressive. >> he was elected as a democrat, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with having bipartisan relationships, being able to get things done across the aisle. specifically in texas.

we know in the texas house, which he served, democrats are in the minority. so there has to be a bipartisan effort and a way to get things done. however, we must be real and transparent about who we are as candidates, who we are as elected officials. >> do you think he was not transparent? >> i do believe he was not transparent. he was just elected less than four months, unopposed, actually. he ran on democratic values. i believe the voters trusted him and thought he would uphold those democratic values. now we see a now mayor who's turning republican who has turned his back on the very voters who advanced his political career. >> ckordal coleman, thank you s much. president biden makes a big announcement about the auto workers strike. linda gates joins me on inequality in america. former trump aide cassidy hutchinson, she's speaking out tonight about her fear after testifying and what happened to her after that day.

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president biden announcing that he will join the auto worker picket line in detroit next week a day before donald trump is set to appear there as well. i sat down with may lin sa french gates to discuss this era of income inequality and vice president kamala harris and her mission to tackle what she calls the most urgent global issue today. >> there are so many issues that face the world that you could be tackling. which one, which is what happens to women, their health, their ability to have children, it's literally the old est problem

that we as a human race have faced. why is it still a problem in weapons health in the fact that we still have 800 moms dying in childbirth every day tells you right there, we know a lot of the right interventions to do, yes, there are new innovations coming and we can talk about that. but we don't invest enough in women's health to say, this is a priority, this is important, let's not lose this mom. why do you think progress on this particular issue seems to have stalled here in the united states? we may even be going backwards. >> the fact you're ten times more likely to die in our system than in japan or israel or spain? that makes no sense. the fact that a black or indigenous woman is three times as likely to die as a white woman? it's because we have a system that is not set up to serve everybody well. and to serve them equitably.

so we're not making the right investments in data to determine exactly why women are dying or make investments in the system to take bias out of the system and use all the right tools. it's just unnecessary. >> your daughter recently -- >> my oldest daughter, jen, recently gave birth. again, there's a lot of time when you're in the delivery room, if it's going well, where you're waiting. i could think about the other women who weren't being served well around the world. because i've been in delivery rooms, honestly, all over the world. thank god, i was so grateful she had a healthy birth for herself and for her child. >> from a policy perspective, especially here in the united states, what's stopping political lead ers from actuall addressing some of these issues? >> it's political will. it's saying, these lives matter. every mom matters. to not put women first in our policies, whether it's child care, whether it's paid family

medical leave, whether it's maternal mortality, to say moms are important to us and we're going to make sure that our system changes for moms -- that's what's not happening. >> perhaps not enough women making those decisions in the halls of power? >> i've become very passionate, and i'm actually putting money behind now trying to get far more women into state legislatures. there are 7,000 seats that are available. it's a great training ground to be up on the hill. when we get more women and people of color making our policies, our policies will change to support women and families. >> i have to ask you as we're having this conversation, we have a black woman as vice president of the united states. the first time that's ever happened. a woman or a black woman. but at the same time, she gets questions all the time about whether she's qualified for the job. when you hear that and you

compare it to the rest of the world stage that you operate in, what do you think? >> i think it's ridiculous that when a woman reaches a position that she has reached, that they're asked whether they have the skills or they're qualified. i mean, one of the things that to me is outrageous is that we have a senate in the united states that has no female black senators. not a single black female senator in our country. yet we have millions of black women. so how can we have a senate or a house that we say actually represents we, the people? so again, it's these biases in the system. it's the harassment. we're sending women and women of color into a broken system. and until we can get them to all these positions of power, we're not going to fix and change that system. >> i want to ask you just more broadly, we are also sitting in a time where we're in the middle of all these strikes, right? auto workers, actors, directors,

you name it. it seems hike in this country, there's a question about fairness in our economy. you've had the pleasure and luxury of being a fabulously wealthy person, deciding also to give a lot of that, most of it, away. but when you look at the broader society, especially here in the united states, what do you see? is it fair? >> it's not working for us. what we're hearing from workers is, these wages aren't working for us anymore to raise our families so that we become middle income or go from middle to high-income. that's the american dream. that's what my grandfather lived, my parents lived. i have been fortunate enough in the situation i'm in. everybody should be able to live that dream. i think you're hearing people rise up and say, let's fix this system. capitalism works in certain ways, but there's certain societal things it's not addressing and we need to

rebalance. >> you walk in so many of these spaces with a people that have a lot of privilege, world leaders, et cetera. when you're in those rooms, are you thinking the wealthiest should pay even more than their paying now in taxes? >> i do say that i think we should have stair-step taxes in our country. i do think it's more fair for the wealthy to pay more than somebody who's low-income. i do believe in that. and i believe it's up to the wealthy to give back and give back substantially. if you have anything close to $10 million, you can give back half of it quite easily. so it's our duty to give it back and give it back well and show models to other people of wealth of how they can do it also. >> so melinda french gates. there's lorraine powell jobs. mckenzie scott, formerly bezos. a lot of people would say, powerful women, women who prioritize giving back. is there something there?

why is it that women seem to be the ones really prioritizing this, putting a stake in the ground and saying, philanthropy is important once you reach a certain point of wealth? >> well, i think you see men and women giving back. but i think you see women doing it in a different way. we are the threads that make up the fabric of society. we are the ones who, in all three of our cases -- mckenzie, lorraine, and me -- we've all raised children. we have a different view on society. what you're seeing all three women do is invest in communities and invest in other women. because we know, if you invest in a woman, she invests in everyone else. >> do you all know each other? >> we do all know each other, yeah. we all know each other. we've worked on some projects together. everybody's also working on their own pieces. but these are both women i admire greatly. and when i need advice, they're both two women that i walk with

and talk with and ask them, how are you looking at this? how do you think about this? >> have you found that you have wanted to change your approach or re-establish yourself now as melinda french gates? >> i think i do both. i'm still a co-chair of the gill and melinda gates foundation and still traveling on behalf of that, but, yes, there is a mark i want to make on the world, and i have a little bit more degrees of freedom. now standing on my own i've gotten comfortable and feel like i can speak my mind freely and i enjoy just being myself. >> thank you so much, melinda. >> thanks for having me. and we have breaking news tonight, a hurricane watch is now being issued for parts of the east coast as a tropical storm gets stronger. stand by.

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