underway to find out who threw a molotov cocktail at the cuban embassy in washington. that incident happened last night, an incendiary device hit a front window of the building. u.s. officials say that no one was hurt, and there are no signs of significant damage. the investigation is being conducted by the u.s. secret service, which provides policing and protection functions for embassies and for foreign missions in washington. and that is it for me and cnn prime time. cnn tonight, of course, with laura coates starts right now. hi, laura. >> i, abby, nice to see, you happy evening to you. >> good evening everyone, i'm laura coates, and tonight, there are even more calls, you, gasquet senator bob menendez, to step down. but he says, look, i'm not going anywhere. and he says he can actually give an explanation for those envelope of nearly $500,000 in cash, including those stuffed into jackets. >> for 30 years, i have

withdrawn thousands of dollars in cash from my personal savings account, which i have kept for emergencies and -- the history of my family facing confiscation in cuba. >> he did address these on your screen, the gold bars, the stash of gold bars. he did address the gift of the mercedes-benz convertible. and of course, he is absolutely innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. and he is not the first lawmakers to even face corruption allegations. in a moment, i'm going to talk to former illinois democratic governor ron blagojevich. he served eight years of 14 year sentence for a pay for play crimes. plus, as you, know we are on the brink yet again of a shutdown of the federal government as of 11:59 pm this saturday. and -- as a pretty stark choice to make, will he save his job or the government, is that really the rock and a hard place we're

at right now? well, right hard-liners are threatening just that. and now, while, donald trump. and everyone, she also spoke and broke the internet over the weekend, you see her right there, i'm talking with taylor swift, of course, and travis kelce. but not what everyone's talking, about are they dating or not, i can't really pretend to care. but i can tell you she has an effect on jersey sales. and could she have a role in a another way on the actual kansas city team? we'll talk about that. i want to begin by bringing in former illinois governor rod blagojevich. he went to present in 2012 after being found guilty of corruption charges. his sentence was commuted by then president donald trump in 2020. governor, nice to see you again, how are you? >> it's great to be home. i'm doing well. how are you? >> i'm doing well. you know, i've been eager to talk to, in particular, because you of course served eight

years of your sentence, in part, for charges having to do with the filling of barack obama's former senate seat. i'm wondering what have been your thoughts when you have heard from a defiant senator menendez today, saying he's not going anywhere, he feels he will be exonerated fully. and yet, we all saw those photographs, governor. what do you say? >> first of all, i say that i didn't do what they said they did. what they sent me to prison for. i went to prison for sex -- by then president elect obama to make a political deal on his senate seat. obama did nothing wrong. i did nothing wrong. eventually, the appellate court reversed those charges. the gunman told a big lie. so naturally, very sympathetic to other people who find themselves in circumstances where weaponized weaponize, criminal federal prosecutors come after you. having said that, i will say the obvious, and that is that senator menendez deserves a presumption of innocence. but i will also say that i think it's reasonable and fair for people who presume there may be some wrongdoing, when

you find in a politicians home $480,000 in cash, -- in gold bars, the allegations of the mercedes and all the rest, in my case, they never even accuse me of taking one single penny. it was all politics. and there's a big difference between criminalizing routine practices in politics, which is what they did to me, they wanted me to tell on president elect obama. neither one of us did anything wrong, and a politician who's got a whole bunch of cash. and that explains it the way that senator menendez did today, which is highly incredible, that discussion about withdrawing money because of his parents coming from cuba and the fear that the government was going to confiscate his money. that's a -- anyway, i'm sorry, go right ahead. >> no, i was asking to say, i certainly understand. you and i have had conversations in the past as well. you have been very, very unequivocal about your own innocence. obviously, we know that you did serve, there was a commutation in the end. but -- mean particularly, given your own personal experience that

you still see a little bit of a turning of the side eye to the explanation the senator gave, even in spite of the fact that there are times when prosecutors can get things wrong. we've certainly covered a number of expungement, including exonerations and people who have been freed under faulty evidence. this somehow feels different to people though. and there already are calls for him to resign, even in light of the presumption of innocence, and in light of of course the fact that he says he did not do it. but there is politics in the fallout involved. do you think that senator bob menendez should resign? >> i think it's very simple. if he didn't do it, he should not resign, and he should fight. if however he did it, he accepts responsibility, he should seek atonement and forgiveness and mercy and pay his debt to society. now, do i think he did it? again, as i, said when you find that kind of cash in a politician's house, i think the fair to say there's something

rotten in the state of denmark. and i think requests for senator menendez to resign will increase as the days go by. one political party, the republican will make a big political issue out of this. democrats find themselves in a difficult position to defend him. so let's see whether or not he can withstand the pressure. i would say to him, senator menendez, who i served within congress, if you didn't do it, go down fighting. that's what i did, maybe that was a mistake, but i know that was the right thing to do. and if you are him and were both elected by the people, we have a duty and responsibility to fight against weaponized prosecutors who are criminalizing things that are crimes. having said that, again, cash, gold bars in a politicians home, why is it not in a bank? why is he not putting it on his financial disclosure forms of its campaign contributions? these are all very serious questions. and this is breathtaking corruption, if in fact he's guilty. >> his statements today certainly invite the prosecutors to do a thorough analysis of how that money came to be, how he was able to

obtain it, the amount, the withdrawals. he really created an opportunity for a map to be drawn, essentially from point a to point b, and it better matchup. of course, this is all in the infancy of an investigation, and of course, an indictment. they still have a long way to go. but i am curious, based on what you said, and people have said he's got to resign right away. some of said, like you have, maybe go down fighting. but there's a lot of leverage in him being a current member of congress, particularly if he were to engage in any plea discussions with prosecutors. did you find that your tenure and your actual office itself was a bargaining chip, or at least one that was perceived by prosecutors as a bargaining chip they tried to use with you? >> very much so. they fully expected it. and that's how most politicians who find themselves in the hot seat like ida, and like senator menendez does now, operate. they use their office, the duty that they have to the people's put aside, they use their

office as a bargaining chip to cut a better deal and to eventually leave after they work things out. the former attorney general of new york, the former governor spitzer did something similar to that. will senator menendez do that? perhaps. but here again, i will say this. if you didn't do a senator menendez, you must go down fighting. you have a duty and responsibility to the people who elected you. if you did it, you have responsibility to not fight to accept responsibility and atone for your sins. my position with me was always i did not do it. i knew i was up against powerful forces. they failed to convict me on a first trial. they tried me a second, time no one ever said i took a penny, much less gold bars. i said ethan gold because obama want to make a political deal. and they did all kinds of things and that second trial that was corrupt. and as a result, they sent me to prison for 14 years. i was a politician who never took a penny. and the reason they did it was they were bearing the truth and what they did. now, there is good cops and there's bad cause. the people that did to me, bad

cops. the prosecutor doing it to senator menendez, he sure does look like he has a strong case. and it is in fact this is true, this is the kind of sordid venal corruption that prosecutors should go after, not criminalizing things that are political. and i know your audience hates president trump, but this is what they're doing to president trump, formalizing things that are routine and necessary in politics and government. this sort of corruption that menendez is being charged with, that's venal, that's corrupt, that's the stuff they should go after. >> well, governor, two things. one, the jury did not agree with your stance. and two, you'd be awfully surprised about the scope of my audience. i'm known for being a straight shooter, calling balls and strikes. and my audience welcomes the opportunity here from both sides of an issue. they have not come to a conclusion until they've gotten all the information. i'm glad you contributed to that today. thank you so much for joining me. >> thank you very much. congratulations on your success. >> thank you. i want to bring in a former u.s. senator from alabama, jug

-- doug jones. i'm glad to hear senator. well, not only because your prosecutorial troughs, but also your rule as being a former senator. and this is a moment where politics and law meet yet again. and everyone, you and i both agree, everyone deserves the presumption of innocence. you would not be worth your salt as a prosecutor if he felt differently. but i am really curious about what you think of the strength of the prosecution's case here? >> well, you know, laura, i appreciate you asking the question. but i'm not going to a pine on the strength of the case, that i've only seen an indictment, i haven't, seen i was not a grand juror. i haven't seen all the evidence. and i certainly haven't seen evidence that's been tested by the defense. and we're talking about a couple of different things here. we're talking about evidence that can prove a crime beyond a reasonable doubt. first is simply conduct, as alleged, then i think should

prompt senator menendez to resign. i said that this weekend. but i just think it's really premature for all of us to kind of talk about the strength of a case visalli on a press conference and indictment. this is got a long way to go. and the senator is presumed mustn't. presumed innocent, that is a piece of evidence folks, that's not just the saying, that is real. he's presumed innocent, he will go into a trial with the presumption of innocence. we've got a long way to go. he's got a long way to go. him and his wife has a long way to go, and the codefendants, before anyone can really assess the strength of his case. >> certainly, and of course, the prosecutors recognize that their job has really yet to begin. when you have an indictment, is the beginning, the end of the beginning of the case. they've still got to prove a whole lot of information. and he has the opportunity to choose to present a defense. one of the things that he is doing already in a statement is

that he has given a kind of a preview of his stance on likely what the defense might be. and part of it might be that he's been arguing that parts of his job as a senator who are being misrepresented by the prosecutors, and that is actions fall under the official acts of a senator. now that phrase, official acts, has been part of the supreme court precedent as it relates to the former virginia governor bob mcdonald. there is questions as to whether his entertaining of a constituent who wanted to have, i think, a nicotine based dietary supplement meetings called, opportunity for someone to meet with the person and test on their own lab work. that was that case. official acts were kind of carved out in the supreme court for that reason. but here i am talking to a former senator. you know what your official acts really were. when you think about an official act of congress of a senate office, do you think that what is being alleged meets that criteria?

>> you know, again, laura, and i hate to -- i'm not trying to dodge your question. >> oh, but you are. >> no, well i'm not really trying to dodge. you're basing the question on a piece of paper. you're also basing it on something that senator menendez said. and as you said, it's a preview of his defense. but there is going to be a lot more of this. there was in the case of the governor of virginia, there is an every case. there is more in the governor that you interviewed, there wasn't his case. he is still proclaiming his innocence. people often do that. what i'm really looking this weekend for people to simply say, let the system work. let the system go forward. he -- you can talk all the evidence if you want to. but the fact, and i want to emphasize this again, none of this evidence has been tested by the defense. and i'm not taking up for

senator menendez on this by any stretch. >> but former senator, i'm asking -- >> he's got a very good lawyer. >> i don't want to cut you off, but if you like to be processed to kind of roll out as it is, why are you calling for him to resign? because when the process mean that he goes all the way through a trial, that it would be tested in the way you're talking about? why would he -- why wouldn't he resign based on that logic? >> that's the legal process. i totally agree with that. that's the legal process. i think we're at a point in this country though, laura, where people have such distaste for the political parties, for the institutions of government. the respect for the institutions of government, including the senate of the united states and house representatives, has had its among the lowest it's ever been in the history of our country. i think that there's also a duty that people have that is a higher duty and simply to yourself in that legal process. i disagree with what the governor said a few minutes ago. i don't think that whether or not you resign depends on whether or not you did it or

not. the minute you resign under his theory, you're making an admission of guilt. i don't think you have to do that. what i think though is that the senate, as an institution, and its reputation is at stake. i am looking at a bigger thing right now, when the people of this country are really tired of politicians, or even our alleged as the alleged allegations are here. i think that people really need to look at this. and i would hope that there are clearly factual allegations that are made in this indictment that i think would simply rise to the level that senator menendez should resign. i think he owes that to the people of new jersey. but at the end of the day, it's going to be his decision, as it is everyone. we're seeing the same thing play out in the house representatives with george santos. there is a time in this country where the charges themselves would likely lead to a resignation, so that they could defend. i think that they are -- i'm just looking at it in a different way, and setting

aside whether or not he is legally guilty versus not guilty. that is -- and by the way, not guilty is not necessarily at all an exoneration. and then we have to understand the terms that we have as well. >> before i let you go, this is very intriguing to me, on that, note i certainly understand the distinctions you are drawing between what might be politically the right decision, and what would be the lawful legal process based decision of things. but when you look at this taking a real step back, and you see the accusations by a number of republicans about a weaponize department of justice. normally they're talking about attacking republicans. i don't know that the indictment of a democrat actually will even that playing field in their mind. but wouldn't interest incentivize then people to believe that as long as you have an indictment, view could essentially go down the line

and figure out who you don't want to be in office, under the logic of, well, politically, it would not be a good thing to have charges like this? are you concerned that this might separate, of course, what's happened with the senator in the accusations, that an indictment alone could lessen the credibility of a sitting member of congress, such that it would encourage that argument that it's all being weaponized? >> no, i don't believe that at all. i give the department of justice a hell lot more credit than that. i'm not cynical about the department justice. i've never have been. even when i was defending people. what you're saying is that every time, every time a politician, whether it's a republican, democrat, or independent gets under the crosshairs of law enforcement, politics is the first thing to claim, that they're being targeted because of their politics. that is the -- the public defense du jour for anybody. that happens every time. we always see it.

so, i don't believe. that and i don't think that cynical for you about our prosecutors, not that there is problems in the past. of course there have been. but prosecutors are humans, just like everybody else. and they have their false. and they make mistakes. but overall, i think the department of justice, over the years, has consistently shown that they are fair, they are impartial, and we are seeing that playing out right now because we are seeing political figures on both sides of the political aisle that are being charged. whether they are ultimately pretty guilty is going to be for a jury, not the department of justice. remember, and you know this full well, the department of justice doesn't indict anyone. only 23 members of the community. the public indict people. the department of justice will not convict anyone. 12 members of that community will either convict or find someone not guilty. and by finding they have found

not that someone is innocent, but the government has not proven their job unreasonable doubt. and that's the way the rule of law is in this country. that the rule of law should be. and i think it will play out appropriately in all the cases were seen, when it's donald trump or senator menendez. i certainly hope the pursuit of justice and up with him getting caught. former senator doug jones, always a pleasure to speak with. you thank you so much. >> thank you laura. >> up next, a leading democrat tonight saying it would be a good idea for senator menendez to resign, we'll tell you just to that person. is next,.

well former house speaker nancy pelosi tonight joining us shortlist of democratic lawmakers calling for senator bob mendez tune out resign. so far in the, senate senator sharon brown, john fetterman, pedro wells, they have all called for him to resign as well. let's dig now into the washington post --

he's also a senior fellow council on foreign relations. along with former republican congressman joe walsh, who's the host of the white flag. podcast karen finney is here as well. here we have it. we've got these calls for menendez to resign. not a long universalist, i might add. it's almost like, it's trickling. out why do you think it's not. stronger? >> i think there is a belief that if we're going to say that no one is above the law, and that we should follow the legal process, if we're going to say that for donald, trump ever going to say that for hunter biden, regular say that for bond menendez. he does have the right to have his day in court. at the same, time that's the legal case. there's also that the court of public opinion. clearly, some members still very uncomfortable with particularly in a moment where you know, we are talking about a former president, no

comparison, let me just be very clear, to what is alleged with bob addendums and what is alleged with donald trump. no comparison. at the same, time there's a feeling that it's important that we maintain a clear eye about having the public trust. >> it's important that bob donald trump does not get reelected, and this is all, we're going to see the pressure from democrats for menendez to resign grow. this is gold for trump, and republicans. there is zero comparison to the former president, indicted for trying to overthrow an american election. the, republicans have done a really good job of blurring everything with hunter biden. the american people think joe biden has something to do with the hunter biden, and now you throw in this menendez, thing i think to a lot of the american people, it just clouds everything up. >> there's even a pull, out i think it's the nbc news poll that shows a comparison being

drawn between joe biden and donald trump. max, it's 46% to 46%. if the election for president, today who would you look for? again, one has an issue with the messaging on economics. the other has foreign diamonds. they have a track record of the people are -- to be generous on that notion. you have a new op-ed out about how you say, anyone who believes and preserving american democracy, and the u.s.-led world order, therefore has no choice but to back biden in 2024. however, i uninspiring that might be. that deadlock 46%, that does not look inspired. >> that's certainly causes me a lot of concern about the future laura, and constantly wants to doubt the judgment of the american, people words joe, yes joe biden's three years old, or the donald trump, but it also does not have 91 felony counts against, him he is not been impeached, twice he's never try

to overthrow the constitution or storm the capital. >> details, minor things, so i don't understand how people can weigh those two things and say, trump or biden could go either. why that's pretty crazy, because i'm honestly not sure we're going to be a democracy if donald trump wins next year. i think it's pretty imperative to get behind biden if you believe in democracy. i say that is someone who is not a democrat, because i don't think there's a realistic alternative, because a lot of people are saying, hey butternut sold. >> it's true, and i wish you were younger 20 years younger, but what is the alternative? unfortunately, if joe biden steps down tomorrow, who is going to represent the democratic party and take on donald trump? it's probably going to be vice president, harris and she doesn't have a very inspiring track record, in all takes, ball and i have yet to meet a single democrat who thinks that she would actually beat donald, trump so basically, at the end of the, day the hours late. it's either joe biden or donald, trump and you have to realize that is the choice. it's not an ideal candidate who

does not, exist versus donald. trump >> identity democrat, and i think she could be done. trump i know several who. do >> what matt so, now but there aren't many. i want to say something about the, polls because our own cnn poll last weekend, in new hampshire showed joe biden beating donald trump handily. i want to be very careful that the more we have tell voters through all of this police what they should, think we should not be surprised when we get to that answer back. i always think, what's actually, let's do a john, king tut let's go talk to voters. let's hear what they're saying. let's let them tell us, not just through polls were, let's just remember it is a snapshot, it's when you caught me on my phone, and i want to get off the phone, my kids or whatever. a lot of people are not paying attention. >> it's a snapshot when democrats are not engaged yet. the publicans are engaged. now they have been act -- democrats are not. yet i just think there's a

little bit too much democratic, bed-wetting. going on >> i see a lot of conversations around how much and -- you can trust, poll ambushed a horse racing, event and then, that extra tortoise, but if you like that, pull oh you put it on your forehead. it's worn, everywhere but if you don't like the, poll then it's a matter of advice, but it is very, early but i do want to play for you tonight what cassidy hutchinson had to say, because she raised the question of why more people were not taking the stand that i think max just alluded to as well. she says it's time now for them to take that stand. listen. >> now is the time. if these politicians, this man and some women that are currently and want to make the break, and wants to take, the stand they have to do it. now we can't wait any longer for them to do it. i don't know why they're so willing to support him, i think it's extremely disappointing, and it is not a hard issue to

take. we're talking about a man who at the very essence of his being, almost destroyed democracy in one day. he wants to do it again. >> i have to just, the elephant in the. room she doesn't know why there was support from. trump we know about, her because she was still in service of the president as an employee to the white house on january 6th. there is something to be said about the fact that she was able to last in spite of what she's saying. however, why do you think people are not more inclined to take the stand? what is it? >> it's a great question, and frankly i have a very low estimation of my former party the republicans, but keeps getting lower. all-time if you could ask me that your two, ago i would've said if donald trump were indicted in for criminal, cases in who are facing 91 felony, counts that we finally heard. support that would finally diminishes standing. it is not happened, if anything is probably helped him a little

bit in the republican party. that to me is just horrifying, and appalling. you can talk about why that is the, case but the bottom line is it is the case, and i just can't believe that all of these republicans think that he is still fit to be president of the united states. >> we're going to get back and talk more about, this but there might be one reason, the next primary debates, he's like voldemort still. he is he who shall not be named. he's not going to be there, either but everyone is looking more and more like the federal government will shut down that, midnight this coming saturday. he's going to get hurt in all? this who will the american people blame, when they do, my panel has a lot of thoughts on this. next --

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or now five days from a government shutdown. the question on capitol hill tonight will speaker mccarthy save his job as well? speaker mccarthy, or will he saved the government. is that the really question that they've got to make? we told on my neurology today. >> how much is the fact that if you do cut a deal with democrats, there could be a vote to push you out? how much is that driving your decision-making right now? would that not drive musician making 15 times before? you cut a deal with democrats, and that could be the end of you. >> did i cut a deal with them? . from talking about right now. let me explain something to, you i'm no different than i was, then or before. my whole focus was in my mind what drives, me is the american

people. i'm not going of someone makes a motion, i'm not worried of someone votes no. >> back with me, now -- a little bit of chest beating, there he does not, care he's not, scared whatsoever. do you believe him? >> he's superpower is that it seems like nothing, he has no shame. he will go as low as he has to go, and then find a way lower. here's the truth about this shutdown. i think we're probably going to get a shutdown. even if he gave them everything they wanted, they probably would still kicker, matt that's how we he is. that's how strong donald trump is in this equation. that very right-wing staying seems to love to embarrass, him and he seems to be able to keep taking at. that's trump superpower to, he's incapable of shame. i served under mccarthy law, all he cares about is being speaker. that's all he's ever wanted.

i was involved in an effort back in capitol hill to shut down the government way back when. then it was all about the debates and argument about government spending this thing now is just all about doing trump's bidding. this is just all about retribution and, trying to shut down the investigations from trump of trump. it has nothing to do its government spending. >> trump says on truth social over the weekend he said, unless you get everything, shut it down. of course it's about longer statement on truth social, as well but max, is this a matter of mccarthy doing the bidding for trump, or is the real issue here that, look it seems that those who made it go to 15 rounds, there's some overlap of the people who are now continuing to be the thorn in his side. keep talking about this in this choice. either he sixes job as speaker,

or he saves the governments. is that really the choice here? >> i think he can probably due, both because he's done both before. we saw that with the deal to extend the debt limit. i don't think this is being driven by, trump i think trump is just basically -- stirring the pot, which is already, it's really being driven by a dozen, two dozen jackpot -- of the house republican caucus who are kind of the nihilistic, aukus they are the wrecking crew. they don't have any positive ideas. they don't have any real agenda. i just want to blow everything up, and they enjoy doing. that's most of the, house including most of republicans are horrified by what, going on but they're kind of perilous because the republicans have such a slim majority and so the leveraging that the cause as much, trouble but at the end of the, day i'm sure that the government will in fact, shutdown but it will also reopen again because i don't think that the majority of the house is going to let these guys hold the country hostage

indefinitely. >> i do wonder, though should the democrats we wondered that they're voters don't see that as a republican fault? >> having lived through the clinton shutdown, it actually matters if the shutdown is about something, i think americans recognize that this is about republicans fighting with each, other it's not even about can republicans and democrats get a deal at this point. >> we'll see what, happens because of course the end of the, day if people don't have what they, need the government is the issue. , max joe, karen, thank you so much. coming up, it's monday night football. taylor swift, goes the kansas city chiefs games yesterday. usher is going to be at the super bowl, and fans are going wild. what it all means for the game of football, and interesting twist next.

well, there's a frenzy erupting over one taylor, swift and the swifties who are cheering on kansas city chiefs player travis kelce over the weekend. swift appearing in the family sweet, right next to mom, donna, this is actually not about who taylor swift may or may not be dating. although that's fun to speculate i guess. if you need more proof of the economic power of taylor swift, after a summer when she raked in the big, bucks and of course even gave bonuses to the people who are working, i think $100,000 worth to each, all the sports retailer fanatic says that swift upper thinking, her appearance of the game sparked a 400% spike in sales of travis is jerseys. i want to bring in, michelle

turner, along with cnn contributor karen champion, as well. what a treat to say these lovely's ladies on the train together. let me begin with you carry. because taylor was cheering him on, during the game on sunday, a lot has been made about even her attendance at the game. it was a whole thing. oh, first i heard you earlier, and i have to say this -- you had i could care less who she's, dating but i would really -- don't care a little bit, just a little bit -- i could name the, milan pretending that i don't really, care i can him every one of them. that's fine. i'm a cnn, anchor i can't be -- but it is, i'm fascinated, you can talk to this just as much as, i can but the human condition, and the ideas being so closely associated with celebrities, it really is fascinating to me. taylor swift was not even, she was not even a mention in

football before this, and as we have these rumors for the last month speculating that they could or could not be dating, i don't think, they are i think this was a beautiful stone played out in a gorgeous way, but the idea that people want to be associated, or near something that she has already blasts -- as we see his instagram followers go up by 300 some thousand numbers, people who are just now following him, there was a blog dedicated to swifties who wants to know what it means to play football, because they had not paid any attention to this, before and travis kelce is the storm is on, right he hopes that -- he's something special, but her effect is absolutely fascinating to me. >> when my husband i laughed at the skit about men friends, and the bromance, and how they're so different than the way gross, interact and women. it's hilarious first of, all i hope they're able to pronounce his name, kelsey after the swifties, and kelsey. in addition to, this by the. white jersey sales, she's also being called upon by i native

american organization called not neuron, or looking her, precedence looking at the sway that she, has and hoping that she will help to bring an end to the chiefs tomahawk chop, as a while. that is speculation about what she's dating, him or not but could she really have an impact on how people actually participate in the sport now? >> listen, taylor swift has never been shy about speaking out on things that she believes and, whether it's political, whether it's in the music business, whether it's women issues. whether it's taking back their own power, so i don't see why she would not have been something that she, believes in and i think that you're just seeing what we have been talking about. the taylor swift. effect when she shows up, there are people from all over different genres who will say okay, let's see if we can get taylor on our, side because she is such a spotlight soaker, and whenever she, says people listen to. swifties do not play about swift, they certainly do, not

and we can just, say i think they're her movies coming out, two people can get tickets, the game i do want to ask you about actual football first moments, because there was a big blow out over the weekend, we're talking about the dolphins scoring 70 points, and to the broncos, 20 by the way. they had a chance to go for an all-time single game record, but coach mike meltdown did not go forward. what did you make of that decision? >> i thought that was even more, embarrassing i thought for them to call mercy, just at that moment and say yes, what will just leave it here at. 70 it had to be arguably more humiliating for sean payton and russell wilson and the broncos, in fact he said as much after the game. it is really unfortunate that we are watching in realtime the demise of what i thought, if we are talking sports in realtime, russell wilson is a super bowl winning quarterback, and sean payton is a super bowl winning, coach and we are watching had the game has changed in the past them by so quickly. what's happening in miami is special. that's what we saw. but him not going for that

extra three points just to show mercy was a message that said, it's pasture. time at least that's the way in which i took it for sean payton and the denver broncos. >> but russell wilson didn't give up 70, they give the defense gave up 70. >> it's a great point. but we already know russell, i think that's a failed experiments. you know, that russell wilson and shot peyton, that broncos, team that's a failed experiment, and we are three weeks into the season. i know they want to try to salvage, but it was unfortunate that they had that. they had an old defense, they had an old offense, they need to refresh what my miami is doing so special. you could all test to the. >> well you know what special? ? the i hear refresh, i hear, special i think a. sure so the whole thing is happening right, now i can to not get to usher. what are you looking forward to?

>> all of, it all 13 minutes of. it's i'm looking forward to, but i'm really excited for the show. i think it's going to be great. the only thing that can cap it off with this halftime performance is if my chiefs, and yeah you guys, i'm a little biased in this whole story because i'm a born and bred chiefs fan, they are back in the super bowl again. we're gonna see usher do the hits, we're gonna see him bringing out some people. he was playing a little coy, today but he cannot do super bowl halftime show without bringing out ludicrous, without bringing out littlejohn, we may see adjusting bieber appearance, because i'm sure you know he found justin bieber when he was 13. we like to say -- back on the stage, and do a little bad growth assure if it was up to me. i think we're gonna say -- i think you're gonna see an amazing show. usher is a pure entertainer, and people sleep on that. people forget, the guy has 18

top ten hits, nine number one songs, and so many grammys. he has a discography that is worthy of a super bowl halftime show. he's gonna show he's a dancer >> if you did not know that already, i don't need to tell you. it's so nice again to see you ladies on the screen tonight. thank you so much. >> well if he needs backup dancers, the three of us can be available. >> i stand in applaud you, all because i've seen your workout videos. i will not be there with you. i will be there in spirit thank you very much. thank you. everyone next, the confusion over president biden's bow. watch automakers, that is tomorrow's news tonight coming up.

well before we leave you, here's tomorrow's news tonight. president joe biden will travel to michigan tomorrow, and actually walked the picket line with members of united auto workers union. there is some confusion centered exactly where he will be going, and what he'll be doing when he gets there, but the sources the uaw is not involved in the former presidents -- this, one state in -- the studios and striking writers have reached a tentative agreement, which means riders potentially could be back in work in a matter of days. perhaps late, night and talk shows could quickly follow. thanks for watching everyone, our coverage continues