so glad you are with us. 8:00 a.m. on the east coast. five things to know for this tuesday, september 26. four days left until a possible government shutdown. kevin mccarthy in standoff. insisting gop threats to oust him are not influences negotiations. president biden will be in michigan joining members of the united auto workers on the picket line. he will not be involved in the talks, but the white house says he is lending his support. police looking for this man in connection with a fentanyl death of a 1-year-old at a bronx day care.

prosecutors say he was seen on video fleeing through a back alley carrying two bags. cassidy hutchison out with a new book that paints the closing days of the trump administration more lawless than previously disclosed. cities across the u.s./mexico border dealing with the recent influx of migrants. the border city at a breaking point. that's live. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts now. we begin with news into cnn. president biden's son hunter biden is now suing former trump attorney rudy giuliani and others over the data obtained from his now infamous laptop left in a delaware repair shop. katelyn polantz with more. what grounds is he suing him on? >> this is about data privacy and hunter biden is going to court here in federal court in california suing not just rudy giuliani, but also giuliani's companies and a lawyer that was representing giuliani for some time, a close friend, robert

costello. and what hunter biden is accusing robert costello and rudy giuliani of doing is getting access to data that was taken from his laptop. so that laptop was the laptop that he had given over to a computer repair shop in delaware and at some point rudy giuliani and robert costello got access to a drive of information that hunter biden says at least some of that was indeed from the laptop. he is not saying that everything was. there might be have manipulated data on there. what they are accusing giuliani and costello of doing here in this lawsuit is essentially unlawfulfully invading his privacy. hacking into a computer. that's some of the language that they use in this lawsuit. and one of the things that they say is that defendant statements suggest the unlawful hacking activities are ongoing today and unless stopped will continue into the future, thereby necessitating this action.

so that's the reason that they are going to court on this. but it's also just one of these moments where hunter biden is on the offensive bringing a case against rudy giuliani quite a well known figure in the world of people who were talking about hunter biden and at one point a person who held up the laptop or held up a drive on air and said, this is the hard drive that all of the hunter biden material is on. >> to that point, there has been a lot of talk the last several months about hunter biden's legal team being more aggressive in these moments. is this part of a counteroffensive strategy? >> absolutely. and we see that because we see multiple lawsuits from hunter biden now. this is not the first time he has sued over some sort of invasion of his privacy. there has been another lawsuit against a man, garrett sigler, a researcher who had ties to the republican party who was working with a woman in arkansas. he sued that man. he is also suing the irs because

of statements he believes were infringing on his tax privacy related to that republican investigation that is ongoing around him. so there is a couple of different lawsuits here. rudy giuliani is just the latest at the same time he is facing his own criminal issue in the state of delaware. >> all right. thank you. house speaker kevin mccarthy is facing a ticking clock. four days left to avoid a government shutdown. mccarthy has to get republicans to unite around a herm short term spending bill to strengthen leverage in talks with the democratic-led senate. now the promise he made in january are catching up with him. this as house lawmakers are returning today to vote on a series of appropriations bills. those bills, of course, dead on arrival in the u.s. senate. >> the if the and former president are joining in the fire. warning of dire consequences, saying the speaker has to do his job. trump is encouraging republicans

to let the government run out of money and shut down if all their demands are not met. mccarthy faces the stark dilemma. ken buck says he believes mccarthy can get through this. >> do you think speaker mccarthy will weather this? >> i do. and i mentioned before, i don't think anybody wants his job. it is a horrible, you know, hurting cats is a very difficult process. when you have cats with big egos in in buildings it is very difficult. >> interesting take from congressman buck, no one else wants the job. they don't want him to lose? >> no one else may want the job at this moment given how difficult it is, but the reality is that mccarthy potentially still does face potentially an ouster from some of his colleagues because of the pickle he is in when it comes to government funding. one of the things to be watching right now is there is a lot of

drama that will play out in the house this week. they will try to move forward with one-year individual spending bills while leadership is simultaneously trying to rally members around a short-term spending package to get leverage with the senate that. is largely going to be a distraction because most of those options, all of those options would not avoid a government shutdown at this point. right now the focus is in the senate where you have republican and democratic negotiators and leadership trying to find a path forward on a short-term spending package that source ares sayin would be around 45 days long. that's not a lot of time. one of the reasons for that shorter timeline is because they may not be able to include the full $24 billion in ukraine funding that the white house has requested, nor will they necessarily be able to include disaster aid. those conversations are fluid right now and there is a lot of things that could change in the

next several hours as they try to get members of their respective caucuses behind this short-term spending plan. but the senate is trying to find a way forward and they need to move quickly so that they can send it over to the house of representatives and then it will be up to house speaker kevin mccarthy to decide what to do. depending when the bill goes over to the house of representatives, it's possible there may not be enough final for mccarthy to have any option other than deciding whether or not to put the bill on the floor in the house. it's possible that the house may find some way to come together, that republicans may try to change that bill that comes from the senate. but so many moving pieces here. because we have such a short timeline, that these leaders are trying to work within, that is the challenge and that that is why mccarthy certainly does not have any good ochgss left on the menu right now. >> to that point, i mean, he does, right? there is an option that always ends these types of issues, which is a bipartisan vote with half of the republican

conference gets whatever the senate jams them with across the finish line. is there any indication in your reporting that this is becoming a real option now or are we just going to play this game for calm of days? >> reporter: every single day we push house speaker kevin mccarthy on that question. would you put the senate pass bill on the floor of the house? every single day his response is, that is a hypothetical and if we get to that point, give me a call. but, obviously, that is becoming more and more of a potential reality for the speaker. again, it assumes that the senate can associate a short-term spending package, can pass it out of their chamber in short order and volley it over to the house of representatives. a lot of things have to happen for that to be a choice mccarthy has to make. if it happens, that is, obviously, the easiest path forward if you forget about the fact that any one member could call to oust the speaker at any moment. certainly working with democrats could trigger that from some you have his hardliner. >> just one. thank you.

for more on the negotiations to avert a shutdown republican congressman from new york, he helped bring some house republicans around a plan to pass individual spending bills. congressman, i appreciate your time, particularly because you have been in the room trying to navigate a path forward at this point. you have helped spearhead the idea of moving full-year bills that will start at least procedurally today s that enough to unlock enough republican support to move a republican stopgap bill? >> you know, i think, you know, we have been engaged in this conversation and there are deeply held beliefs from both ends of the idealogical spectrum. the goal is to show good faith that we mean business about shrinking the size of the federal government and by moving those billings -- which by the way the speaker committed to.

house appropriations committee was moving those individual bills showing. getting them on the floor and debating them, amending them, we are hopeful that unlocks support for short-term funding. it's critical that the house and house republicans present something that respects taxpayers, presents to the senate our best offer, which is we hope to drive down federal spending, secure the border and ensure that we respect the people paying the bills. >> yeah. understand kind of the plan, the proposal. but at this point you don't have any assurances that you guys have 218 vets on a short-term bill? >> i think that the movement will produce more time to continue moving down the path of adopting appropriations bills. so i am not, obviously, the speaker nor in a position to say there is a final agreement. what we came together is an ernst effort, move the bills forward, have the debate, try to move forward a proposal that respects taxpayers and with that brings forward support for

short-term funding. there has to be -- listen, a government shutdown is in no one's interest, the people that work for the government, not in the best interest of the american people, not in the best interest of the people we respect. so we think that by pushing forward earnestly with this effort we hope to garner the support necessary to move a cr. >> the reason i ask is you are a member of the problem solvers caucus. you expressed openness if there is no path forward inside the conference to consider a discharge petition working with democrats. what are the triggers to break off from your path and work with democrats or move forward or push the problem sofrs proposal out sted? >> it's a bit of a hypothetical. i think it will gorn garner support for short-term funding. i like many of my other colleagues recognize two important things. we don't want to see a government shutdown. we want avert giving that authority to the president.

it never ends am well. it's not good for america or the american people. we recognize there is a slim house republican majority and a democrat senate. even if the senate comes forward with something, there needs to be agreement between both parties in both houses and that by default or design is what america has elected. >> it's a great point because there is no outcome here, there is no end game that doesn't involve democratic votes, yet members of your conference are saying if the speaker allows diction votes on a proposal they are threatening his job. >> yeah, with all due respect, the senate is in the same boat, assuming they will pass something and we are forced to accept it. at the end of the day, what i think is in our best interest as a nation and certainly in the house is to present a conservative offer that respects taxpayers. we know this. when the democrats controlled both houses they forced trillions of dollars into the economy that fueled inflation, gas to groceries on the rise, and by the way, i represent

people in upstate new york who know their government and this -- you know, with all due respect, this president living in some kind of fog, expecting people to believe something they know isn't true. the economy is certainly at risk. there are folks paying too much to get too little in return and they want a government to respect them. so irrespective of where we end in a bipartisan agreement, it's in the best interest of america we come forward with a conservative offer and negotiate from there. we are hopeful, and i think the negotiations and conversations -- which i have been very much a part of -- will generate that support. >> before i let you go, you have run tough races. you are a front line member. you are kind of in -- you are in the room right now. what is the political effect, do you think, on the fact that this intraparty warfare has broke out and continued over nine months? >> we don't want to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. the people that sent us here expect us to govern. while we can't make those

choices based on politics, i recognize the people i respect want me to be pragmatic and at the end of the day if i can bring people together and be a part of a strategy that strengthens the american economy, supports the people we serve and respects taxpayers, i will be at the table. >> thank you. appreciate your time, is ir. >> thank you. former white house aide cassidy hutchison is painting an even more chaotic picture of the final days of the trump presidency who was previously known our own jake tapper has some of those claims in her new book. before he talks to her, he is going to join us. ♪

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of dysfunction, chaos, lawless alleged behavior in the final weeks of the trump white house from former aide cassidy hutchison. including chief of staff mark meadows burning so many documents in his office that his suits smelled like a bonfire. that one of the claims. jake tapper has read the book. you are going to talk to her later today. pretty stunning claims she makes. >> indeed. she was the star witness at the january 6th hearings last year and now she is back on the scene with a book telling her story from childhood to her courageous testimony, including all those years when she was loyal to the man she is now warning the country about, donald trump. >> it was just last summer that cassidy hutchison, a former aide to white house chief of staff mark meadows, became a star witness in the january 6th committee's hearing. and in her new book, "enough," hutchinson paints the closing days of the trump white house as even more chaotic and lawless

than described in that shocking testimony. quote, cass, if i could get through this job and manage to keep trump out of jail, i'll have done a good job, meadows tells her. it's a front row seat to madness. at a mask-free trump rally during the height of the coronavirus pandemic, former presidential candidate herman cain contracts the virus and later dies. we killed herman cain, meadows tells her. but this does not change the white house's mask policy. in fact, during a visit to an n95 manufacturing plant, hutchinson advises president trump to remove his mask because his bronzer is smearing it. >> time and again -- >> reporter: at one point on the 2020 campaign trail, meadows asks hutchinson if she would take a bullet for president trump. yeah, sure, she responds. but could it be to the leg? i would do anything to get him re-elected, meadows tells her. and after the election, in the wild scramble to overturn its

results, hutchinson says meadows was constantly burning documents in the chief of staff's fireplace. and at one point leaked classified documents to far-right wing media figures. meadows constantly reassures his boss he will work to overturn the election that trump clearly lost. quote, i was irritated that mark gave the president false hope, hutchinson writes. of course, that's what the president wanted to hear, but he was damaging the country, but concocting false rationales. this is a theme in the book. soon to be house speaker kevin mccarthy and director of national intelligence john ratcliffe both expressed concern to hutchinson about the president a's erratically acknowledging he lost, backtracking and saying he didn't. are both men blame meadows. but it's trump who was most erratic. after the u.s. supreme court refuses to take up the non-sensical lawsuit files by texas to overturn states that biden won, trump pushes meadows, quote, why didn't we make more calls?

we we needed to do more. trump continues in a statement that could have legal ramifications, quote, i don't want people to know we lost, mark, this is embarrassing. when multiple lawsuits an attempt to overturn the election do not come to fruition, january 6th becomes the fail safe. much of hutchinson's story abo that day were part of her testimony. >> i overheard the president saying something to the effect i don't care that they have weapons. they are not here to hurt me. >> reporter: in her book, she reveals for the first time she was groped by rudy giuliani backstage. quote, he moves towards me like a wolf closing in on its prey, she writes, saying he put his hand up her skirt. giuliani denied this happened. but even the horrors of january 6th were not enough for hutchinson to resign. she stayed on with president trump through the end of his term and sought to get a job with his post-presidency. >> the witness will please stand

and raise her right hand. >> when she was called to testify before the january 6th committee, trump funded attorney told her to, quote, downplay her role as strictly administrative. she wans an assistant. he says he did not advise her it mislead the committee and hutchinson says she was never told to lie to the committee. i don't want you to purger yourself, but i don't recall isn't perjury. another time passantino tells her, we just want to protect the president. jobs are dangled and withdrawn from hutchinson as she begins to cooperate with the committee. she is shut out of and demonized by trump world all together. the rest and her courageous testimony is history. now, a spokesman for mark meadows denies the allegations made about him in the book. the spokesman says the burning fireplace was an absurd mischaracterization. it had nothing to do with documents. he claims it was newspapers to get the fire going.

meadows spokesman denies leaking classified documents to the right-wing media figures. he called that a ridiculous mischaracterization. he says the documents were declassified. in the regards to the we killed herman cain, know say it is offensive to suggest this was meadows' initial reaction and in the days after cocaain's depth thought the media would blame the president for cain's death. >> that's the response -- multiple responses. you say this book solves one the big mysteries in trump world. what is it? >> we know who told the committee all of that information between cassidy hutchison's second deposition and third deposition when she began disclosing so much more information, even though she still had that lawyer funded by trump world, who kept telling her to keep saying, i don't recall, i don't recall. the answer is hinted at in the book, but never truly spelled out. if you read between the lines,

cassidy hutchison and former trump communications director and cnn contributor alyssa farah come up with a plan where hutchinson tells alyssa farah everything she knows and farah tells congresswoman liz cheney what to ask cassidy about in the third deposition and that ultimately is how the truth finally got out. poppy. >> that's fascinating. jake tapper, appreciate it. tune in to "the lead" today 4:00 p.m. eastern. jake sits down with cassidy hutchison to talk about the book and what she alleged happened inside the white house as protesters breached the capitol. well, california's governor signing a series of laws aimed at protecting the rights of lgbtq community. the details and how long it will take to implement those laws ahead. president biden hits the auto workers picket line today in a first for a sitting u.s. president. ♪

the next 48 hours potential preview of 2024 in michigan. president biden and former president trump heading to the detroit area to speak with a workers. trump has been preparing for his event, also working the campaign

trail. he made some claums that are interesting to say the least. >> when i came here everyone thought bush was going to win. and then they took a poll and found out trump was up by about 50 points. everyone said what's going on? they thought bush because supposedly bush was a military person. he got us into the -- he got us into the middle east. how did that work out? there hassle only been -- listen to this -- one such whale killed off the coast of south carolina in the last 50 years. on the other hand, their windmills are causing whales to die in numbers never seen before. nobody does anything about that. they are washing up ashore. i saw this weekend. t three came up. you wouldn't see it once a year. now they are coming up on a weekly basis. the windmills are driving them crazy. they are driving -- they are driving the whales i think a little batty. >> that is indeed what people are saying. >> how do you feel about windmills, phil mattingly? >> not nearly as passionately as

former president trump does. natasha, adam and mora join us. guys, let's start with the idea that i don't think governor jeb bush in florida launched the invasion of iraq. the windmills thing has been a fixation for the former president. don't really understand where he is going with it. if biden said any of that stuff on the stump, people would have lost their minds. 77-year-old donald trump says it and it's like, eh. >> you know, it's interesting. i think that because donald trump has a lot of bluster and energy, people sometimes confuse that with being, like, rational and logical. but all of that aside, what's really fascinating is that he has to sell -- that he is truly about union workers after four years of policies that were actually quite mixed, didn't actually serve union workers.

so this strategy that he is employing now of sort of sowing division between the union workers and their cleadership a detract interesting the policies that didn't serve the laborers. >> the white house is sawing, look, under biden, 235,000 auto jobs created. that's their claim. they say that's four times under trump. is it just the union that actually wins out from the two of them being there this week as they continue to point at the ceo pay, continue to point at the hours they work, you know, what a.i.'s gonna mean. does this help the union to have both of them there this week? >> it helps the rust belt. i am from oyster. when you have two candidates coming into michigan, wisconsin, ohio, kentucky, indiana and across those states, you are getting finally the attention from the country and

policymakers on the east coast in washington that those people didn't really get. that's why trump was elected. they were the forgotten man he shined a spotlight on. now we have a democratic presidential candidate who is determined to make sure he is part of the effort to listen to them, to talk to them. so it's going to draw attention to the union vote, but also everyone else in the region, all the other economic sectors contributing to the economy and other people getting the bite from inflation, who suffered during covid, and who just want to be heard. >> what's interesting to me is it's a great point and if you talk to biden economic officials, as i know you have every day, probably, 50 times a day for the last 2 1/2 years, some of biden's agenda was -- with the exception of the immediate rescue plan, was long term, right. we want to build things that actually help communities or kind of sit and grow inside of communities that have long been

forgotten or left in places like ohio and michigan and wisconsin. and yet people don't seem to be feeling that based on the top line economic polls despite the macroeconomic numbers. why do you think that is? >> wie live in a society that's microwave, we need it immediately. if it's not tangible, can feel it, we don't pay attention it. think back when biden recently announced the medications that are now, you know, he announced two medications that he is going to make available and free and things of that -- that's not going to -- down the road. he won't get credit for it. so it's great to have the policies. great to have the infrastructure act. we have seen projects being built and you are seeing republicans tout that. they didn't vote for it necessarily. we live in a world we want to see it right now. if we don't, we are distract bid something else. trump is so good at distracting and pointing out, i'm here for you. he is coming in today, i am a

champion for union workers. he can point out biden is not looking out for you, he is hitting all the -- sending all the jobs to china and he can be a savior to them without getting fact-checked in real time. >> explain the electric vehicle that the biden administration is pushing so hard and why it's concerning to the union auto workers because many of the evs are not made by union workers. >> that gets to the heart of it. what the union workers see is we have a president right now who wants to support electric vehicle production. that means less workers in factories on assembly lines, less humans who are helping build those. also, china has a lot of ev production. so trump can come with his whole adage of jobs being shipped to china. what the uaw workers and union workers need to hear from biden

is that i will find a way to protect your jobs, even though i support the ev push. >> can he do that? >> it's a fine line. i don't think his half a century in congress is going to help him with that. let's see. we will see him on the picket line. >> we need cars. we need gas cars, right? we don't have the infrastructure right now to even have -- if everyone were to get an ev, we don't have the infrastructure to do it. we don't have enough generating stations in the country to sustain that. that's also a -- >> that's the point of subsidies. >> he could talk about that. we need more generating stations. people are nervous about nuclear but we need more nuclear generating stations in the country -- >> what these workers need is not false promises. lawrence town, ohio, donald trump said, know, don't sell your houses, right? i will -- excuse me, i will protect your jobs. and what happened was the factory didn't come back.

again, a lot of bluster. if you don't have the policy to back it up, what's the difference for the people on the ground? >> no one remembers that. he was promising people to their faces that he was going to save everything in lawrence town and it shut down three months later. as a respected political communicator, the idea of people are saying, much like the windmills, the idea that gavin newsom and ron desantis will be holding a debate, which was announced yesterday -- i know the biden team looks at governor newsom as a good surrogate. why is this happening? >> ron desantis needs something of a jumpstart to his campaign. he has seen numbers kind of slope down and it's an opportunity -- because a lot of people on the right think that gavin newsom will run for president. people have been speculating, well, president biden will he go through with running for president even in 2024 given his recent polling numbers are abysmal. so this is an tune tore ron desantis to go head-to-head who

he thinks is running for president and position himself as the number one candidate over donald trump. this is an opportunity for ron desantis to kind of show what he is made of because he has not done thus far in the first debate. we will see what happens tonight. >> is it a good venue for him? >> i don't. just being honest. >> candid. republican strategist. appreciate it. new developments following that fentanyl death of a 1-year-old at the daycare in the bronx. prosecutors released new images of a suspect leaving the building before emergency responders arrived. the latest on that probe ahead. and the city of el paso grappling with the surge of migrants. officials warning the influx isn't stopping anytime soon and shelter is running out. the mayor is going to join us next. stay with us.

cities along the u.s./mexico border are trying to respond quickly to these rising numbers of migrants arriving.

yesterday the el paso city council voted to buy a middle school and turn into an emergency migrant shelter. before the vote, the mayor told councilmembers the city found accommodations for 7,000 migrants and prepared 16,000 meals in just ten days. despite the efforts, the mayor says that his border city is at a breaking point and he joins us this morning. we really appreciate you being us with given all that you are going through. i want to begin with what one of the directors of the existing shelters there told our colleague rosa flores yesterday, 300 migrants slept in the street last night. as i ask you this, i want to show images -- i believe we have them of last december and may, what you guys were going through then. are you preparing for that again now? >> yeah, we're preparing for making sure that we have roving teams and they go through eligible and some of these people out there that select to

sleep outside because they want to be able to -- when people go by, they are looking for day workers, some will sleep outside sacred church because their kids, their wives are in there. we have roving teams and we offer them all shelter. we have gone from four hotels to nine hotels and we house that everybody had a bed, we had over 1,000 people last night. it's an ongoing crisis, as we talked about. we know that the amazings process is broken. until it's fixed we need to continue to work together really on the other side, on the south side, to be able to fix what's going on today. so our main responsibility is the safety of our community, but also to make sure that our visitors are safe and we help them to get to the next destination. only 1% of people coming to el paso are actually coming to the united states. >> you mentioned ongoing crisis. you said the city is at a

breaking point right now. i am interested how long can you go on like this, particularly as surges continue cyclicly? >> and the team here in el paso did an incredible job, the city, the county, we work to the to make sure that we provide a bed and warm meal for everyone. but we are at a breaking point. we are running out of hotels. we are running out of space. and when i talk to chief owens from the border patrol, preparing for about 2,000 crossings a day. so that's something we're preparing for. you talk to the -- we actually went out and bought a school closed, and we will prepare that for an emergency shelter. that school is on 19 acres. half of it will completely a part, will be an emergency shelter service and the other half will be an animal services where -- and we will have an animal park out there and they will be able to walk a dog, s there and play with a dog, so it

helps with mental health or they can do none of the above because there will be two separate facilities they can merge with. mental health is one of the largest things we need to help and work with. >> given that many migrants don't have money for transportation out of your city and other cities on the border, texas governor greg abbott's buses, he is having them taken to other cities like here in new york city, are those helping? >> well, we work with the office of emergency management for the state of texas and we want to make sure that everybody that gets on a bus signs a letter knowing that -- where they are going and make sure we know where the buses are going. we need to make sure someone is sent somewhere they -- to far we said we will work with them as long as it goes to where the destination of the asylum seeker but also make sure we communicate with the city, where it's going, have a manifesto, so

they are prepared for them. >> on the federal level, do you feel like the administration has been responsive to the scale of your needs? >> the city of el paso couldn't do it on their own. it's an impossibility we could fund millions and millions of dollars. we are thankful to secretary mayorkas, fema, that gave us the funding going forward. funding may end. it would be impossible for el paso to do that and make sure that the people are not on the street and we continue to protect the safety of our community and also our visitors. so it's important that we continue to be partners with the federal government to help us fund an immigration system that's totally broken, that really needs a lot of help moving forward. didn't break yesterday. didn't break a year ago. it's been broken a long time. we need to move forward in a nonpartisan way of fixing the immigration system. >> we appreciate your time, sir.

thank you. >> thank you. have a wonderful day. new images released following the fentanyl death of a 1-year-old child at a bronx daycare center. they appear to show a suspect leaving before emergency responders arrived. you see him there. authorities say he entered empty-handed and where he and his wife live next door, two minutes later out the back door with shopping bags they believe contained fentanyl. his wife owns the daycare. is facing federal and state charges a third person has been arrested in connection with the child's death. california governor gavin newsom has signed a pair of new laws that strike at the heart of america's culture wars. one requires gender-neutral bath flooms schools by the summer of 2026. the second law prohibits school districts from banning books and other school materials based on race, gender, sexuality. this comes after newsom fought with the season in southern california over opposition to textbooks colluding gay rightsoy con harvey milk. bob menendez refusing to

design despite some fellow democrats calling for him to step down. how are new jersey voters responding? harry enten is here to break it all down coming up next.

and the charges are formidable and it probably would be a good idea if he did resign. >> nancy pelosi, former speaker of the house, the latest prominent democrat on call on senator bob menendez to resign. menendez however says he will not stop down and is denying the bribery charges against him. congressman andy kim has already said he will challenge menendez in the democratic primary. joining us with more, cnn data reporter, harry enten. explain why menendez not willing to step down at this point. >> i think the number one thing you have to keep in mind is the last time a republican won a senate race in the state of new jersey was 51 years ago, it was all the way back in 1972.

this is a state that voted democratic on the presidential election every election since 1992. the idea that menendez would lose a general election seems far fetched to me. more than that, he has won elections before when even as new jersey voters said he lacked high ethical standards. in 2018, 68% of new jersey voters said he lacked high ethical standards. in 2006, 62% said he lacked high ethical standards. the idea we will present new information to voters to say he didn't have the ethical standards to be in the senate, they felt the way they elected him in 2006 and 2018 with that math. if you can't beat him in the general, how about a primary? so let's take a look. before menendez was indicted his standing with new jersey democrats, 58% approved him. that's the majority, right? just 23% disapproved. you had that 19% that didn't know.

not too surprising for a senator. it is not like a president so it is not shocking that you had that didn't know. so here is the question. with the new corruptions, with the indictments would it change the math? keep an eye here. three indeetments, a new jersey politician level. 49% of new jersey democrats said that new jersey politicians were either very or somewhat corrupt. they already believe that they're corrupt. >> that's like in general? >> in general they believe they're corrupt. it is new jersey, for goodness sake. >> not an excuse, hairy. >> not necessarily an excuse. but will the charges make a difference? we'll wait and see but menendez has a reason to be a little skeptical. the math is the math. >> thanks, buddy. >> thanks. if you needed any more proof taylor swift's appearance at a game sunday was resonating with people other than poppy harlow. >> it is not my story. >> according to fanatics travis

kelce was in top five of jersey sales this weekend, surging 400%, likely driven exclusively by swifties. one surprising swift fan, the only one that matters, weighed in yesterday. >> where do you fall on that? travis kelce, taylor swift, power couple of the nfl? >> travis kelce has had a lot of big catches in his career. this would be the biggest. >> that coach bill belichick and he is responding to a reporter's question which is notable in and of itself. he went to a performance earlier this year and after the performance he called taylor swift tough and impressive. >> we know the way to bill belichick's heart. you want to ask him a tough questions -- >> and he loves small dogs. >> you are telling me belichick has a soft spot? >> we all have soft spots. you just have to find the way in. >> thank you, harry, for being with us.

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