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morning for his first court appearance on bribery charges. we are live outside the courthouse. ransacked stores in philadelphia, multiple people arrested after a crowd goes on a looting spree. and prets cryptions for popular weight loss drug like o ze zechlic, they're soaring and plummeting for people who need the medication for diabetes. i'm ksara sidner with john bermn and kate bolduan. this is cnn news central. more breaking news coming in this hour. now details about the army soldier who has been in north korean custody since july. he is now back in u.s. custody. north korea announced just this morning that it was expelling, those are the words they used to army private travis king and this whole thing, the -- all of the circumstances around this
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are quite extraordinary starting with the u.s. government believes that he intentionally crossed into north korea during a civilian tour of the demilitarized zone. cnn's alex marquardt is at the state department. there is nothing, but questions about this. they're starting to get some answers. what more are you learning? >> we are starting to see a fuller picture of what happened, not just today, but in the course of the past few months. the u.s. has said private travis king had crossed into north korea willfully and without authorization back in july. everything we'd heard until just moments ago had come from the north korean side especially from north korean state tv. we are now getting a little bit more from the biden administration and a u.s. official saying that private king is now in u.s. custody. that means he would then be on his way home after two months, just shy of two and a half months of being in custody in north korea. kate, just moments ago i spoke
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to the swedish embassy in washington, d.c. that confirmed that sweden did, indeed, play a role in the release of private king. that's important because the u.s. does not have an embassy in pyongyang. sweden represents an embassy in protective power. there is a role of sweden and it is not clear at this point what exact three that role was in terms of negotiations to get private king out. we're also trying to figure out how it is that private king got out of the country? did he cross over the dmz into south korea? did china play a role? there is a good chance that china did, indeed, play a role and the u.s. has an embassy in beijing that would monitor and be on top of all kinds of north korean issues and north korea and china being very close allies and these are the details that we are trying to figure out. kate, what is clear is this is still an extraordinary story
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that we will want to be hearing from private king directly about, why he crossed into north korea back in july, why he fled the airport when he was being sent home and what drove him to go to that border, and of course, his family is going to be very happy to see him, kate, but there will be a lot of questions about the condition that he's in. so there's good news for the king family today that their son, their grandson is on his way home, but certainly he is going to be facing a lot of questions in the coming days and month, kate. >> absolutely. alex, thanks for being on top of it for us. sara? >> right now, senator bob menendez and his wife are at a federal court waiting to be arraigned on bribery charges and they are expected to be charged with hundreds of thousands in bribes and prosecutors are misrepresenting his normal work and many of his fellow lawmakers are demanding that he resign.
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cnn's paula reid is joining us outside of court. this is normally an arraignment and something that is a natural progression as the case goes forward, but what is unprecedented this is a sitting senator going through it. what are you expecting today? >> the senator and his wife arrived in federal court new york a short time ago and any minute they're expected to appear been are before a magistrate judge for the first hearing since these charges have been filed, but this hearing comes as over half of senator menendez's democratic colleagues in the senate are calling on him to resign. let's take a listen to how he has responded to those calls. >> will you run for reelection? will you run for reelection, sir? >> i am here to do the work for the people of new jersey. >> why won't you resign, sir? >> because i'm innocent. >> as he remains defiant, he
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often points to the fact that he's previously been charged with corruption and he was not convicted and the justice department has had a pretty weak record on successfully trying government officials when they have been charged with accepting bribes or gifts for wielding their political influence. that is accurate, but what is different about this case is the fact that the senator here is also accused of sharing sensitive information with a foreign government against u.s. interests. sara, that is a grave allegation against the sitting u.s. senator. >> as menendez says he is innocent until proven guilty and so far defiant against those asking him to resign. >> cnn legal analyst jennifer rodgers and chief law enforcement untelejens analyst john miller. john, i want to start with you. what will happen today is prepro forma, but soon there will be discovery. bob menendez and his team will
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get to see all of the evidence and then you say some key decisions will have to be made. why? >> well, because then they'll know what the case really is. we've all seen the indictment that lays it out pretty clearly, but he wants to see what's behind that. all of the texts and e-mails that was obtained in the search of his home. that will be the time for them to make decisions, is he going to seek a plea in this case or is he going to agree not to run again and those sorts of decisions will be. >> why do you think that is more or less likely in this case? >> the guidelines are very high and the case seems open and shut from what weave seen in the indictment and i think the discovery will bear that out because they got a title 3 and got the text messages that way and it's pretty open and shut in that sense. is he going to go in and get some sort of deal that will be less than what he is facing on the counts which will lead to a 12-year sentence unless a judge decides to go below.
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>> john miller, when you look at not so much what will happen today, but the case at large, you see major questions not completely on the law, but intelligence, why? >> you have to look at this case and ask first, is it a public corruption case? yes. does it involve bribery? those are the allegations. it would strain credibility to believe that a new jersey businessman was arranging meetings between egyptian generals, intelligence officers, officials to get things done for the government while getting a contract, an exclusive monopoly contract from the egyptian government worth tens of millions of dollars without the involvement of the egyptian government and the egyptian intelligence service. so the question is where is that involvement? is it in the case? will it come out in the case if it exists and was the attempt to recruit a powerful u.s. senator being directed by the intelligence services of a u.s.
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ally that gets billions of dollars? these are questions that lurk in the background that are not inthat indictment. >> and there are u.s. officials who don't want that in a courtroom which could lead to more conversations about a deal for both sides. i want to ask you about another major legal moment out of 24 hours which is a new york judge in a summary judge that lied and stripped them of controlled of some of their businesses. for a judge to do this in summary judgment, how rare is that and what does this mean over the next few days? >> this is a civil action and not a criminal act and the facts are so clear that as a legal matter they need to be dissolved. these companies need to be dissolved and the trial will only be about the amount of money, right? the damages. so it's fairly rare, but
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certainly not unprecedented and of course, it's appealable so after the trial and everything is done, trump will have an opportunity to appeal and we'll have to see if it holds up. >> his businesses are one thing he holds very dear and he may be stripped of control of some of them. house speaker kevin mccarthy, we are hearing, spoke to reporters on capitol hill. this was shut down three days away and very real questions about whether mccarthy can maintain his speakership. let's listen. >> i want to sit down with the president to secure that border. what are they going to do with the president -- >> it's not my problem. it's america's problem. >> it's the house responsibility to fund the government right? >> let's compare that. how many bill has the senate passed? how many appropriation bills has the senate passed. you ask me questions every day.
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name me 12 appropriation bills the senate has passed this year. >> it has not passed any. five bills. 73%. okay. okay. i'm sorry, what does an appropriation bill do? how many appropriation bills does it take to fund government? 12. the senate has passed zero. -- [ inaudible question ] >> let me answer your questions and first let's get the facts right. your first question was and i answered it. the senate has done nothing. the senate has not done one thing when it comes on to appropriation. is that different from what we have in the past? the senate has done nothing. the house is passing 73% of all of the appropriation bills of the job we're supposed to do on thursday. we're bringing up on friday the ability to fund the government, but at the same time secure our border, so yes, we're doing our job. so what does the president have
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to do with that? if he has to sit and hide in the white house and put government into a shutdown that's on him, but that's the wrong thing to did. i'd like to see anything out there, if it's a challenge, i want to solve the problem. if you look at what the senate is doing, too, we have the faa to deal with. that goes away on september 30th. has the senate passed an faa bill? no, it has not. have they passed bills themselves. they're a different body on something to deal with the border and even if the leader from the senate comes from new york and the mayor are crying for something to be done, no, they've done nothing on it because if the house passed a bill we can go to conference and solve that. the senate has not done their job. the senate has not taken up the house work so no, the president should step in and do something about it otherwise the government will shut down, just like we had strikes in michigan
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and the strike in california and embassies evacuated around the world. that's a lack of leadership. social leadership. this was your policy and this wasn't a policy that opened up this border. it was simply your decision and you can do something to change it. it would keep government open while we finish the job and hopefully the senate can get around to the appropriation bill. thank you all very much. a somewhat irritated house speaker kevin mccarthy there. a government shutdown looms just three days away. mccarthy there trying to deflect some of the blame to the senate and the white house though the real issue over the last several weeks has been that mccarthy has not been able to corral his own caucus, republicans, in the house of representatives to get them on the same page to fend off this shutdown, but there trying to say don't look here, look elsewhere. we will see if that bears any fruit. we will talk to our manu raju senior capitol hill reporter in just a few minutes to learn
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about the latest development in that. >> that was an interesting twist. thank you so much, john. tonight, seven republicans will take to the debate stage minus the front-runner and new polling saying that debate may not matter that much in the long run and a death-defying challenge. the journey from central america to the united states is excruciatingly dangerous and cnn is on the ground speaking to people who made the trek and first hand what they saw. the accused gilgo beach serial killer is back before a judge today. what we can learn coming up.
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>> thank you very much, kate. >> indeed, it is. seven republican presidential candidates will make their case to voters tonight. none of them are named donald trump. what do the numbers tell us about the task that these people have in front of them? one man has the answer. cnn's senior data reporter harry enton. how tall is this task? where is donald trump in the polls? >> i'm not sure i'll be ready to top that intro. let's take a look here. all right, donald trump is well ahead nationally, right? the polls have looked the same basically for months. donald trump has gotten stronger and stronger and stronger. 58% of the vote. ron desantis at second place at just 15% and we basically got a clown car for third place and nikki haley technically in third and this is well within any margin of error at 6%. i just want to know historically speaking and these are the other notes in the primary.
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al al gore, george w. bush, hillary clinton, what do they have in common? they all went on to win the party's nomination. >> it's true these are national polls we're looking at and what matters more are the state polls and is iowa closer? not so much, a little closer, but basically it's the same idea here, harry. >> all right. the historic again and all these people won. these indictments against donald trump and the legal problems he has been having and what impact have they been having? >> i mean, i think this gives you an understanding. gop voters concerned that the criminal indictments make trump a weaker candidate. just driv25% of republican vote are concerned. the vast majority, 74% are not too or not at all concerned which, of course, makes sense, folks, because the fact is if they were very concerned donald trump wouldn't be getting nearly 60% of the vote nationally and near say 40% to 50% of the vote in the early states.
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>> any way to tell what impact this has in a potential general election matchup? >> to give you an understanding, the most likely gop candidate to beat donald trump -- >> 72% -- >> thank you very much. sometimes that happens, folks. to beat joe biden, donald trump, 72 believe it's donald trump compared to just 25% someone else. they believe donald trump's the most electable and they believe him most on the issues and that's the reason why donald trump has this mammoth historically. >> let's see how it translates on stage tonight. trump can't win because of the problems facing him. that's not what voters are saying. >> voters don't believe them and that's what makes it difficult and they are trying to pierce the armor and they haven't been able to yet. >> stand by to stand by. joining us now, joining us now s.e. cupp and former
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presidential campaign and founding partner of firehouse strategies. okay, let's have some fun. two questions. what should the candidates do on stage tonight? what should the candidates in reality do different on stage tonight? >> what they should do is try a novel concept. go after the guy in first place or heck, go after the guy in second place. last time it was a bun of people in the single digits attacking people in the single digits and it didn't make much sense and that's what they should do, and it seems rather obvious. i don't know if that's what they're going to do and if they're sending out the early positioning last night that they'll be aggressive. donald trump is 58% in national polls and he's walking away with this thing and it's not to consolidate the anti-trump vote and in order to do that they have to go after him. >> if you'll continue to score
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analysis, you have to watch the tape. lessons learned from debate one. what was the moment in debate one that these candidates should learn from from debate two. you believe it was the hand raise moment. just remind everybody. watch this. >> if former president trump is convicted in a court of law would you still support him as your party's choice? please raise your hand if you would. [ cheers and applause ] just, hold on. >> all but two raising their hands. >> right. >> why should that be such a teachable moment. >> well, it was a national embarrassment. it's an embarrassment that you have six republican candidates for president who say they would support a criminal if he were nominated. gone is the legacy of law and order in the republican party. gone is the legacy of a moral compass. these people are clearly
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corrupted by the cult of trump and they're too afraid to go against this cult of trump, but the problem is, as terry noted, they are trying to win and beat him. they can't suck up to him and beat him. they've got to differentiate themselves and they've got to call him out. i hope tonight on this debate stage they recognize that he's most likely going to be in jail at some point over the next year or two and at the very least is charged with 91+ charges. this is not the person we should be nominating and whether you like him or not, we should be nominating someone who can actually do the job and who isn't facing all these legal battles. >> whether or not he is convicted or of anything, we do know since the last debate one thing happened right directly the next day which was donald trump had a mug shot taken, a mug shot that has obviously the mug shot seen around the world. the mug shot that served as
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wonderful fund-raising effort for donald trump himself. ron desantis, terry, his campaign merger put out a memo saying a lot and this is included. desantis can vote joe biden and donald trump and we're the only campaign built for the long haul in terms of resources and organization. can he make headway in this debate or do you think to use an overused phrase, the cake is baked when it comes to desantis? >> well, the fat lady hasn't sung yet, but she's in the wings warming up, and at the end of the day he's right. his campaign manager is right. he's the one who has the best shot right now. the best organization. they've still got more money and for some reason haven't spent it which is shocking. they have the best shot to give trump a run for his money in the nomination process. it's not overly likely, but it's a real shot, and the best position he's in is that there are no expectation now. he's managed through no fault of
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his own or maybe through a fault of his own managed to lower his expectations so much. as long as he doesn't fall off the debate stage it's a win for him tonight. he needs to go out there and actually show he's a leader that can take on trump. >> it's also managing expectation heading in or by fault and it was not by design that this happened in the month that has transpired and it is interesting that he's going in this position. there is nothing to lose. >> i forgot about him, frankly. which is bad. i do this for a living, right? i was thinking about who was going to be on the debate stage and this is the story of the desantis campaign. i've said this for a while he seems a bit like the manchurian candidate. they propped him up to be savior of the republican party and he hasn't really delivered and i'm not sure that there's a lot of there there. he's made the culture wars his entire personality. he's failed at some of that taking on disney and losing and it really hasn't solidified a
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lane for him, and i think, you know, even kellyanne conway are saying the culture wars are no competition for a sound, economic plan, and he's really not talking enough about real stuff. so i think he could probably get elected president of florida, but i don't think he's going to show donald trump a run for his money. >> so some of the polling i was looking adheading into this is who is out there and how much of an appetite is there for anyone other than donald trump which is little and it's becoming less, right? nbc had asked a question on the issue of the republican party should continue to be led by donald trump 58% in september. that's grown since june. on the question of trump was a good president, but it's time to consider their leaders, 19%, that's down from june. republican party needs a new leader with better personal behavior and a different approach down since june, as well. i'm trying -- if these candidates are, i don't know, fighting over 19% to 22% of republican voters, what does
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that look like? if you're back there with them what's the piece of advice to focus on as they head out to the stage? >> they shouldn't focus on that group. they need to focus on the pot of voters that he has. they have got to take votes away from him. >> you've got to take that on. >> you have to do more than that. you have to draw blood and continue to draw blood on this. there's been polling since the beginning of mankind that nobody likes bad polling. you dip it first and then you start to rebuild because the other candidate starts to really feel it. they've got to go after him. we made this mistake in 2016, but we haven't seen this movie before of donald trump. this time, look, this is a rerun of a rerun. we know it's going to happen. it's like watching "jaws iii," the sequel. we know when you get in the water we know what's going to happen. >> we than is going to be awful so do something different.
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don't send the kids into the water. do something different. they've got a shot to do something different than the 2016. >> i like the one-liners from the conversation. don't put the kids in the water. it's great. thank you, guys. we'll talk about it after ward. sara? >> it's hard to mention sharkses and trump in the same sentence. he does not like them, we know. the house speaker rails against the senate over the looming shutdown and it is house republicans that can't agree on a plan. the senate has unveiled one and it faces hurdles in the house. we are live in washington to untangle it all. that's ahead.
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this morning kevin mccarthy is pointing fingers. not pointing fingers at the right wing of his conference who continues to block any and all movement that he has tried to make on avoiding a government shutdown. no, he is now trying to point the finger and place blame on the senate, specifically senate democrats and also trying to put this on the white house and president biden even though kevin mckarthy and in the republican congress are in charge, and he is the final say of what is and isn't allowed on the house floor to get a vote. as for the senate, it is proposing a bipartisan plan to fund the government through november 17th which means there's lots of work ahead, but
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is there any opening for that, even in the house? cnn's manu raju in the middle of it on capitol hill for us this morning. so what is happening now? >> yeah. the speaker went behind closed doors with this conference this morning urging them to get behind a short-term spending plan to keep the government open past september 30th. he argued with his members that they would not push forward on preferred plans to push the border with mexico, you don't make your best decisions when you are emotional. that's what he said according to sources in the room. he indicated there was not support for the senate proposal that would fund the government until mid-september. the deal cut by chuck schumer, the senate majority leader in addition to keeping the government open would provide $6 billion in aid to ukraine and $6 billion in disaster relief and the aid to ukraine a major flash
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point among house republicans and he would not pick that plan up and where does that leave things? very uncertain and a shutdown could happen. mccarthy is still trying to get a vote on friday on his plan which would cut spending and also would include some of the border security measures, but in talking to the conservative hardliners, they are making clear that even if mccarthy tris to go on a plan to win them over they will still vote against them. >> at this point, given the catastrophe that we've seen economically in this country it would be a fool's errand. as of right now until i see something significant i'm a no for a cr? >> is there any reason that you would vote for a cr? >> no. the speaker would have to accept responsibility for that. >> if he fails there will be consequences. >> leadership procrastinated and created a mess and if that means
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staying a couple of extra weeks through a shutdown, that's fine. >> and therein lies the challenge for speaker mccarthy who has a math problem because he can only a ffford to lose fo votes on any republican vote, and they can vote on any stopgap measure which is why the expectation is that there will be a shutdown and how long it will last remains to be seen and what mccarthy will ultimately do if that questions and also major questions dominating washington. >> when you see very evidently, manu, from your conversations with members when they no longer really see a shutdown as a scary, bad thing you've lost the leverage there is what you see especially with some of the members you're speaking with. thanks, manu, as always. a desperate journey to a better life is fueling the migrant crisis at the u.s. border. that border is far from the first stop. just getting to mexico is a
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death-defying challenge. we are in the southern border with guatemala where many seek asylum for the very first time. >> as you touchdown in southern mexico, be ready to share the road with migrants. we spot group after group marching north. many of those who just illegally crossed into mexico head here, this outdoor park turned migration processing center. >> he wants to go legally into the u.s. so he wants to go through this process here. get his documentation and get to the northern border and eventually cross. >> last year, mexico says some 77,000 migrants applied for asylum in mexico. more than half of them do it in tapachula. this year on track to be double that, a record high. to get to tapachula it's an hour's drive or a day's walk from the river. guatemala on one side, mexico on
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the other and in the shadows of the official crossing between the two countries an armada of rafts casually ferrying group after group. >> they're having their first child. she's give months pregnant. >> days earlier they crossed the treacherous jungle terrain of the gap connecting colombia and panama. [ speaking non-english language ] ? they just described passing through the gap, several people had passed away. several kids and they saw the remains and children abandoned. >> those am images describing the journey she made with her four young kids and admits through her tear-filled pain, little ones lighten the load. >> he has shampoo left in his hand. >> his 12-year-old sister sophia
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helping him as he turns the questions on me. she says i'm older than her dad. >> curiosity brings their siblings and cousins and joandre takes over the mike telling me why they left venezuela. 6 years old and speaks of venezuelan economy as bad. >> as they share disturbing memories surface. [ speaking non-english language ] >> he's talking about -- these are children, mind you, having gone through the very end of the bodies and he's describing seeing a blond woman. >> sophia's pain as she remembers saying good-bye to loved ones. [ speaking non-english language ]
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>> heartbreaking, the friendships that she's lost. those young kids have been through so much already and they've got a lot more to go. sara, they end up tomorrow from an hour's drive from the riverbank to tapachula you have encampments with folks marking their space with cardboard and the few belongings they brought with them and many of them are hoping to get some sort of documentation to be in mexico legally, though not to stay in mexico, and the vast majority just trying to buy some time to get to the u.s. >> thank you, david culver for that striking story there in tapachula, mexico. john? >> what a journey. the murder suspect in the gilgo beach serial killings just in court moments ago. what we learned about pizza crust and dna swabs.
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just moments ago rex heuermann the suspect in the gilgo beach killings was back in a new york courtroom and we are learning new details about evidence in that case from the suffolk county district attorney. listen. >> so as everyone, i think, knows that there was an abandonment sample obtained from the defendant via the pizza box and the pizza that was in the pizza box. a dna profile was obtained from
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that pizza subsequent to the defendant's arrest. a buccal swab was obtained and a dna was obtained from the buccal swab and it matches the dna profile from the abandonment sample in the pizza box. >> that is a big development. heuermann has pleaded not guilty to the deaths of three women more than a decade ago. i want to bring in trial attorney misty maris for your expertise. you just read what happened in court, you just heard the buccal swab, something they take from the cheek, matched the pizza crust which was the thing, the dna that initially got him under suspicion in the first place. how big of a deal is this new evidence that we've just heard about? ? that's huge. because that buccal swab, remember, the court ordered that he had that cheek swab done. that's a different type of dna than what was found in the pizza crust.
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it's mitochondrial dna and it's a mix of family tracing and this is nuclear dna. the reason that buccal swab happens is it either confirms it's a match or it exonerates somebody because it doesn't match. here, this is a match and now this case is full speed ahead with the tremendous amount of evidence that we know prosecutors are now turning over to the defense. >> is there anything once that dna evidence comes back that he can defend himself with? what would his lawyers do in this case? >> defense attorneys are always going to look to questioning the science. there's going to be defenses about how it was collected. there will be defenses about whether or not it is a confirmed match. they'll have their own experts on the stand that will raise questions and doubts because remember, the prosecution has the burden. the defense pokes the holes and it becomes a battle of the experts, but sara, this is a tremendous move for prosecutors to have that match because as
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you said that pizza crust was what really put the nail in the coffin as far as the arrest of heuermann in this case. >> right. it was discarded and then the police found that any they found a hair that was in one of the sacks where one of these women's bodies were found. that has a lot of -- it peaked a lot of pem's interests and it led to his arrest. i do want to ask you about something else in this case. his estranged wife in the process of divorcing him has asked authorities to return some 200 feirearms, 200 guns that wee confiscated. she wants them back. is there a chance of that? >> when the house was searched we know there was this cache of weapons and now she's filed for divorce. all of those should be a part of the estate, a part of the assets that would be distributed in the divorce and she wants to sell them because she's out of money. as you remember, she said the house was trashed. however, prosecutors have said
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all of those should be returned to nassau county to assess whether or not any of those guns were obtained illegally. did he have legal possession of them? that could be a whole set of other charges. >> there is going to be forensic testing on those. that's possible, depending, but that is light years down the road and there is no way prosecutors are going have these guns given up at this point. think about it, what if there were a connection and something sold on the market and several sales later it is untraceable and the court will weigh that and the connection, by the way, 8,000 documents, 10,000 more do you means to come. a tremendous amount of evidence and i don't think we should see that turned over to the wife any time soon. >> they're having difficulties with money now that the husband is in jail. thank you very much, misty maris for going through this informatio with us. it is a very big development in the case.
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exclusive reporting out this morning shows that demand for popular weight loss drugs has skyrocketed, but it's only reaching a small percentage of those who would benefit most. cnn medical correspondent meg tirrell has the details here. so who would benefit most and who is getting it instead? >> well, john, we hear so much about these medicines it seems sort of like everybody might be
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on them, but exclusive new data that cnn has obtained shows that 1.7% of the population had a prescription for ozempic or wegovy in 2023 and that is really just a fraction of the number of people who could qualify for these medicines based on having diabetes or obesity. about 15% of the u.s. population of adults has diabetes. 40% has obesity. that 1.7%, that's still millions of patients and these data show there are disparities in who is actually getting access to these medicines. we know that supply is constrained and insurance can be a problem. 70% of prescriptions in 2023 went to white patients even though we know that obesity and diabetes disproportionately affects people of color more so than white patients and you know, i was talking to a cardiologist at yale about this and he said that 70% wasn't higher given some of the disparities in access to these drugs, john.
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>> talk to me more about the disparities in access and what it is being used for in terms of what is being beneficial for people. >> ozempic is approved for type 2 diabetes and wegovy is for weight loss. and for anything other than diabetes and the use has been going up over the years, from 16% in 2021, to 36% in 2023. that could be explained by some problems with insurance reimbursement for wegovy. that can be really hard to get. a big question a lot of people have is how many people are using this for just cosmetic reasons when they don't fit who the fda approved these for? we found in the data just 3% of people considered at a healthy weight to start with have gotten prescriptions for these medicines and at least in the medical system it's not as widespread as we thought. ? meg tirrell, thank you so much. important information there. sara. we're getting new details this
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