mariners for the last wild card spot in the a.l. astros were up 4-3 in th to clear. umpires though were able to final, 8-3. final wild card spot in the american league. a fun weekend. tell you what, four days left regular season. five playoff spots still up for grabs. so going to be fun baseball to watch. >> i can't wait. andy scholes, thanks very much for that. always great to see you. thank you all for join us this morning. i am casey kasie hunt. don't go anywhere. "cnn this morning" starts right now. good morning. after a very late night and a ruckus debate. right? >> ruckus.

>> good lines. punches that didn't landa. >> that's is true. >> and five things to get to september 28th, thursday. chaotic to the debate. appears to have left little change in the republican primary. the candidates sharpening attacks against each other and the front-runner, donald trump, who, again, wasn't there. >> and taking an former president trump today, president biden calling him a threat to democracy. and the first public hearing in the impeachment hearing of president biden. the clock ticking down to a government shutdown. now just two days away. also breaking this morning, the american soldier who crossed into north korea on purpose is now back on u.s. soil landing near san antonio. an important fyi for starts, dress code officially business casual. the rule after john fetterman's became a bit of a flashpoint in

the upper chamber. "cnn this morning" starts right now. we will get to the debate in a moment. what is business attire these days? i haven't seen my husband wear a suit to the office in many years now. >> quite literally outlined in the legislation. outlined, passed unanimously. i don't want to misquote it. senator manchin would be very upset. a tie, jacket and slacks. no one uses the word "slacks" anymore. the explicit ask. >> except you, mattingly. talk more about that later. >> and donald trump's opponents battling for a chaotic debate on the stage. watch. >> and if i may -- >> and it's not your turn. >> and can't be a champion on both sides. >> i believe in. >> they're good people. >> these are good people on the

stage. >> i'm going -- sir, we will have to cut your mic and i don't want to do that. i don't. >> yet again the republican front-runner, a no-show. rowdy with the candidates repeatedly talking over one another, interrupting each other. vivek ramaswamy and governor ron desantis ended up having the most speaker time. and border security and government spending the top topics. overall they didn't spend much time talking about it. and joining auto workers' picket line. trump joked his primary opponents don't stand a chance. >> they're all job candidates. they want to be in the, they want to not do anything. secretary of something. even say vp. i don't know. has anybody seen any vp in the group? i don't think so. >> and live for us at the ronald reagan presidential library after last night's debate. after a late night. these candidates are still

fighting to close a huge gap with trump but seemed more like they were fighting one another last night. >> yeah. you know, phil, does seem they didn't quite accomplish that goal of chipping away at donald trump's lead. it was messy and loud, you just heard and at times you couldn't understand what anyone was saying on that stage. >> the answer? >> reporter: achaotic second gop presidential debate. >> and things -- >> we want to get -- >> reporter: with seven candidates all vying for second place behind donald trump, criticizing the front-runner for not showing up. >> you're not here tonight, because you are afraid of being on this stage and defending your record. you're ducking these things and let me tell you what's going to happen. you keep doing that, no one up here's going to call you donald trump anymore. we're going to call you continue to duck. >> reporter: invoking his name more this time around zeroing in

on the government economy. >> reckless behavior, borrowed, printed, spent and now you're paying more for everything. they are the reason for that. and where's joe biden? he's completely missing in action from leadership. you know who else is missing in action? donald trump is missing in action. he should be on this stage tonight. he owes it to you -- [ applause ] -- to defend his record. >> reporter: pence took direct aim thepresident's bidenomics -- >> he belongs ton the -- r >> reporter: auto workers -- >> they want more benefits working fewer hours. that is simply not going to stand. >> the reason why people are striking in detroit is because

joe biden's interference with capital markets and with free markets. >> reporter: the debate hit on many red meat issues for the republican party including immigration and border security. >> our laws are broken every day at the southern border. every day. and joe biden and his crew is doing nothing about enforcing that law. >> defund sanctuary cities. you see what's happening in philadelphia right now. it's got to stop. we need to make sure we put 25,000 more border patrol and i.c.e. agents on the job and let them do their job. >> doesn't enjoy citizenship neither does the kid of an illegal migrant too broke the law to come here. >> reporter: vivek ramaswamy faced direct attacks forced to defend his business record in china and his use of tiktok. >> i have a radical idea for the republican party. we need to win elections. and part of how we win elections is reaching the next generation of young americans where they are. >> this is infuriating because tiktok is one of the most

dangerous social media accidents we could and have what you've got, honestly, every time i hear you i feel a little dumber for what you say. >> reporter: the two candidates from south carolina sparred over gas taxes in their home state and -- curtains. >> nikki offered a 10% tax gas increase in south carolina. as the u.n. ambassador, you literally -- >> bring it. >> $50,000 on curtains at as $15 million subsidized location. >> you got bad information. first of all, i fought the gas tax in south carolina maultiple times. do your homework, obama bought the curtains. it's in the -- it's the state department. >> did you send them back? >> did you? you work in congress. >> you hung them, they're your curtains. >> they were there before i ever showed up at the residence. you are scrapping. >> reporter: so after all that yelling at the debate what you

did not hear, though, is anyone saying that they were going to take the foot off the gas. didn't hear anyone say they were stepping off the campaign trail. many heading south where i'm standing to orange county. ramaswamy, scott, and desantis all going to show up in orange county for the california republican party convention. the biggest name that will show up for that event, phil and poppy -- donald trump. >> hmm. thank you for the reporting. quite a night. >> quite a night. so many thoughts. let's bring in writer of a very serious newsletter and host of very serious podcast, cnn politico. you laughed. set this up intentionally always say josh is serious. and margaret hoover and senior political analyst with us also. appreciate you joining us after a late night. a lot of things to get to including nikki haley's reference to a "billy madison"

quote, which i loved. down by 30 or 40 in the polls need to chip away at it. heard some of it. take a listen. >> you know who else is missing in action? donald trump is missing in action. he should be on this stage tonight. >> my former rahningmate donald trump actually has plan to start to consolidate more power in washington, d.c. consolidate more power in the executive branch. >> this is where president trump went wrong. focus on trade with china pt not the fact he was buying up our farmland, killing americans. >> you're ducking these things. let me tell you what's going to happen. keep doing that, no one up here's going to call you donald trump anymore. we're going to call you donald duck. >> roasted. >> i think the thing, we polled that, a little more a frontal assault to some degree but still not, margaret, a significant one people came out of the debate

saying we actually launched at donald trump. >> i don't think fundamental dynamics changed at all after last night. all candidates came 10%, to 20%, more amped up. elbows punching in either direction. fundamentals are basically the same. donald trump leading. pretending like none exist. nipping at his heels on ankles. the rest of them, honestly, if they were smart would do more of what that maontage just showed. there is somebody who is wanting to return to power and as mike pence said, consolidate power and continue to disrespect the constitution, and there are the rest of them. >> this is the 10% more critical of donald trump differentiation strategy, which ain't going to cut it. great to call out policy differences. fine to say should be on the debate stage. should be. rnc should step up and put teeth into that enforcement.

ultimately unfit for office because he tried to overthrow our democracy, den grade the constitution and indicted 91 times. that's the argument to make and all pulled punches for fear of offending a part of his base. that's not the clarity people expect from leadership. until that's done they're not getting traction. >> does it get done? didn't do it last night, why not do it in the future? >> i see it differently. i don't think a republican jumping up and down about the indictment will help you at all. they're in mirror world and in that world, kind of like with o.j. simpson. you know, the black community knew he was not the best person in the world but hated the lapd worse. that's kind of how, it's sort of -- it's that. like you have these republican voters. they know trump is a scoundrel but think the establishment and deep throat is worse. for me what i saw was, these

debates are not just about who gets to be the nominee. it's about the country. it's about what happens to the party along the way. they were mainstreaming, attacking, babies of immigrants saying you don't belong here. shouldn't be a citizen here. that's terrible. they were mainstreams denying transgender folks, mainstreaming abandoning ukraine. in addition to not saying more mean things about donald trump, which i would love but i don't think will move the needle. there's something happens to that party and to the country that i thought was very disturbing. >> pushing to repeal the new green deal, amazing because it hasn't been passed yet. so congrats to joe biden for the legislative victory we didn't know about. interesting point. watch the debates. particularly no one's making a move at the front-runner. what they were saying and to van's point. what has become kind of the base line, key points for the party, do you think van's right?

this is it now? you can listen to the romneys and the mcconnells and other people who come from the old guard of republicanism, but this is it. >> the main way the candidates are trying to get way from donald trump, getting to his right on entitlements on abortion. van's right. the argument john made is a general election argument and perfectly good argument help democrats, but won't help new a republican primary where people, where the typical voter thinks everything donald trump did through that process at the 2020 election was fine and justified. there is a subtler argument you could make. even if okay with all the stuff donald trump did, why this is bad for the republican party and conservatives. he can't run a second term. that he's going to be spending all of his time and money during the general election defending himself in these legal matters he has, regardless of merits, rather than trying to win elections for republicans. you saw ron desantis get at that a little bit. talking we need a president who can serve two terms. the problem is, i don't think that that many voters think

about this in those terms. you know, like they don't think about it like if they were a party operative implementing the party agenda. that's so difficult for these candidates in this race. you have to attack donald trump to be relevant. but attack him from the left, effectively what you're doing. so terrible he tried to steal the election, that's not getting you into the primary. useful, then chris christie would be leading the primary. >> the problem, overturning the election appeals to the left. electability matters why political parties exist. a cult of personality going on but what deflates that confrconfront ing facts with strength. strength matters, trying to be a leader. tiptoeing around doesn't cut it. republicans like to think of themselves as a party of law and order, dwrefends the constituti and democracy. take that to the woodshed you can carve out your or niche. >> chris christie is rising. this is not a national primary.

25 relevant primaries but not weighted evenly. iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, nevada, and it's, makeup of electorate is different in each, too. in fact, independents are voting in new hampshire. dynamics are totally different and chris christie is beating desantis now in new hampshire at least according to many polls. so it's a different makeup. the composition of the base is different in new hampshire. >> and you're deal is not -- the national polls are one thing, but where it matters, new hampshire, it's working? >> chris christie's strategy is working right now in new hampshire, because you can see climbing in polls and beat desantis in some cases. all still lagging to donald trump. >> all coming back. a teaser. talking to chris christie in the 8:00 a.m. hour. stay tuned for that. stick around. a lot more to talk to. who's the appetizer? >> can't wait for the main course. this overnight, suspect in

the murder of a baltimore tech ceo arrested. we'll tell you those details. the american who ran into north korea is back on u.s. soil. what negotiations that brought him home. stay with us.

he voted for the spending. >> you asked for a gas tax increase in south carolina -- >> 12 years.

where have you been, tim? where have you been. >> ten cents on the gallon in south carolina as the u.n. ambassador, you literally -- >> bring it. >> $50,000 on curtains in a $15 million subsidized location. >> we all know -- curtains? do your homework, tim because obama bought those curtains. >> did you send them back? all right. our team is back. an appetizer, couldn't wait for the main coarse. here he are. talk about it. the back and forth between tim scott and nikki haley. they're friends -- >> what do you mean? >> was that useful? >> headlines of, used the word "swagger." she can pivot. adept as handling attacks and going on the attack but didn't ask for that. as soon as she saw he was going there, she was ready. >> bring it, tim.

>> what nikki haley did, though. be clear. that story was silly. a story printed by the "new york times" when it first came out. "new york times" issued a correction. >> curtains. >> the curtains story. silly and below the belt. why was he doing that? trying to distinguish himself from her and from the crowd. they all should be distinguishing themselves from donald trump. i thought it didn't play well with republican voters, at least the ones in the room. >> obscure, too. >> and you're frustrated. >> that's not what happened? >> what do you mean? that's not whooat happened? >> they tried to pit them against each other, the moderators and tim scott turned to her, didn't attack her. actually made substantive points. >> the curtains? >> no, no. the second question. >> going somewhere. he didn't attack her. that was the most important moment of the debate. tim scott was asked to attack her and didn't do it. >> and then he did? >> then when she had the opportunity to talk, she

attacked him. then he tried to -- then came with the silly nonsense. not being tim scott. tim scott's not an attacker. >> that's right. that's right. >> tim scott tried to show character. tried to show class. tried to show integrity. didn't fall for it and nikki haley attacked him anyway and benefitting from it. of course looks like a full attack. what they went out to do. things happening on the stage that are very disturbing, i was so proud that tim scott didn't attack her, given the opportunity, and sad they chose to attack him. now talking about the same thing happened. the main point missed. >> shows how irrelevant this debate was. >> correct. >> i mean, the curtain thing is silly, even the rest of that exchange, about, you know, you tried to raise the gasoline tax. no. trying to do a deal with the income tax, gasoline tax in south carolina. small issues between two candidates not going to come close to receiving this nomination. that doesn't tell us much about the future of this country. i mean, when you put seven

candidates on the stage who are not going to be the republican nominee for president and argue for each other like they're pretending the question is among these people? is tim scott or nikki haley going to be the republican nominee, the exercise is pointless. >> hold on. phil, i don't know -- surgeroga argument. >> whether the election is over ng . >> i heard the winner is a steak dinner. winner, winner, steak dinner. >> ice cream. i thought. figure that out later, i think. ohio thing, i think. >> when the field thins out one of these candidates will be a credtive opponent for donald trump. i would have said tim scott was a possibility. an important thing. pay attention to the conversation that's acceptable.

new consensus the u.s. military should directly attack drug cartels in mexico. a significant shift of policy dramatically to the right. worth noting. right? silly op about curtains, silly. do best staying to the core. it's paying attention and tracking. when mike pence asked about obamacare, concerned about scoot sh school shooting. >> and obamacare, another chance? he didn't answer. >> and focus on the subject. this stylistic stuff is distraction. >> but the problem also is that donald trump has watered down the rhetoric and the discourse so much that, policy isn't what his voters are going to the polls for. they're going to the polls for the feeling they get by supporting him. these cultural-base issues. and i mean, this just -- the

contrast with reagan was so stark, because the arguments when reagan was running for president, we are substantive and policy-based, nuanced. that was the major contrast between the kind of debates we used to have versus what donald trump has done to the party. >> okay. a lot more to get to. stick around, guys. john, margaret, josh, van, back in a little bit and also this -- >> new overnight suspect in the murder of a 26-year-old tech executive in baltimore now in police custody. found dead having suffered blunt force trauma. police launched a manhunt for jason billingsley calling him extremely dangerous. didn't release detailed about his capture but more deals released in an 11:00 a.m. news conference. friends and community gathered for an emotional vigil. her father choking back tears discussed how proud he was of his daughter's work and ambition. >> she's always, always, been a leader. always been driven and creative.

always attended, intended to be a high achiever. even didn't mention it or say it or anything, but you could just tell that she knew what she wanted to accomplish, and there was nothing that would get in her way of accomplishing that. >> her father saying she was the definition of daddy's little girl. also new this morning, u.s. army private travis king back on u.s. soil an being expelled from north korea. he flew in on a military flight that landed at joint base san antonio. if you remember, the soldier who crossed into the demilitarized zone in july. before that king released from a detention facility after an assault as a seoul night club. so many questions. this broke during the show yesterday but we still don't have answers do we? from u.s. officials why north korea just let him go.

the u.s. says no conditions, no concessions? >> none north korea said, either. only dispelled him after concluding think investigation. what that was based on, looking into or what they found doesn't seem north korea answered that as well. the question, what was north korea's motivation in all this is one that is very much open. several hours ago you pointed out travis king landed at joint base san antonio on his way to brook army medical center. a medical evaluation and psychiatric after some 70 days in north korea. where brittney griner and other was taken where the army dealing with those in detention and need to get back into or reacclimate back into life. his journey out almost as different as journey in running acrkcross dmz following a priva

tour. involved the sweed swedes and c. a swedish convoy brought private travis king to the french bridge border between north korea and china. at that point he was picked up by the u.s. defense attache to china and became once again in u.s. military custody. caught a flight from there to south koreaorea osan air base andable to track the flights on web-tracking websites made his way back to the u.s. first time in months and spoke with his family and back in the u.s. reacclimate to life outside of north korea here. >> so many of those questions that need to be answered. we'll get updates as they come. thanks for the reporting at the pentagon. former president trump missing from last night's debate, agent say in michigan vying for the union vote. we'll tell you who he attacked

directly after the debate. and writers struck a deal. what about the actors? not far behind? an update on those negotiations straight ahead.

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mandates that will spell the death of the u.s. auto industry. you know, it doesn't matter. i watch negotiating a contract all on picket lines and everything, but it doesn't make a damn bit of difference what you get, in two years all out of business. not getting anything. you can be loyal to american labor or loyal to the environmental lunatics, but you can't really be loyal to both. it's one or the other. >> this morning former president trump shifting his focus to the general election, and the increasing possibility of a trump/biden rematch. skipped the debate against republican rivals and you see him in michigan casting himself as pro-worker repeatedly asked the union to endorse him.

michigan a battle state and lost to biden in 2020. we have more. clear how the uaw president feels about trump. phil and i discussed all week. trump's policies in the heartland on auto specifically are very clear in his actions from last time around. did any of that matter last night? >> it's not going to matter when trump is speaking to a crowd of his supporters. they're going to support him no matter what. really what we saw last night. one thing was very clear. in the path to the white house, trump is keenly aware michigan is a critical part of that. biden won in 2020. trump won it in 2016. it helped propel him to the white house. last night his messaging. stood with striking auto workers. opposed any sort of quick transition to electric vehicles. heard him there. it would cost jobs. he really sought at times to recast that record that he had while he was in office. a record that, you noted, has

been absolutely slammed by union leaders as anti-union, as anti-work, as pro-business and then made a plea to a specific union leader, you mentioned. sean hawn fain. >> if you could speak to shawn listening now, i'm sure. shawn, endorse trump and you can take a nice two-month vacation, come back. you guys better than you ever were. [ cheers ] because the other way you won't have a vacation, shawn. and in a short period of time you're not going to have a union, not going to have jobs, not going to have anything. >> okay. a couple things to note as we talked about. uaw has not endorsed in 2024. endorsed biden in 2020. we saw shawn fain greeting biden at the airport and walking the picket line with him.

nothing but negative things to say about trump, representing the billionaire class and essentially everything that unions are against. doesn't seem likely an endorsement is in his future. i talked to trump folks they say a split between union leaders and the rank and file. there were a couple uaw striking workers at trump's event last night but not enough to say they're a complete split between leadership and the rank and file. something he has to prove at the ballot box or prove to these union workers every day until a general election he should be the nominee. >> thank you for being there noor rosting. get back to you soon. back with us, van jones, josh barrow, margaret hoover and actual policy. i'm sure a nightmare for lots of people. because i think it's really interesting, but also feel it's become such a, a central point of the argument trump is making nots just in michigan writ large

about environmental policy. then to that idea. you know? that's -- clearly the way trump sees as his way in. legitimate issues uaw has with the ev transition how the biden administration tried to accelerate that. do you think it's possible to actually fight on the facts and policy here? >> you know, it's interesting, because in order to retrofit america to use clean energy and use less energy there's a massive amount of manufacturing capacity required. wind turbines don't build themselves, solar don't build them. electric vehicles zero labor and we're making a bunch of them. it's complicated trying to explain to this particular worker about their particular job. most interesting is that labor matters now. unions matter now. i remember with romney, hold on a second. i remember with romney, that

wasn't -- you know, the republican nominee's main point. mitt romney wasn't going around trying to convince unions he was there friend. something has happened where this rise in labor, this -- this labor discontent is getting both parties to act differently and show more respect. >> can i ask you one thing? that, to me, the most fascinating thing about the past few weeks. dug into the number as few days ago. why do you think that is? you're so good getting to the core. why do you think that is? >> because people are hurting and people are working very hard and not getting anywhere. and as a result of that, the people who are sticking up for workers, whether billionaires pretending or actual labor leaders matter a lot more. >> reason for strength of the union now is profits in detroit at automakers is very high now, where donald trump is really off tone in terms how he's talking to and about the uaw. saying you have record profits. business is good. we deserve a bigger piece of

that. trump saying you're all going to be bankrupt in two years and one implication, automakers don't in fact have money to pay workers more. i think he correctly -- it's correct that issues with the ev transition but i don't think trump is talking about it in a way that reflect the concerns that the union seems to have and workers seemed to be aligned with the union trying to get as much a piece of the transition as they can and seem to understand it's going to happen. >> a face-to-face debate. you're about that. first of all, the biden administration has done in terms of poems incentives to increase manufacturing around evs. standard part of biden's both rhetoric and the reality of his record. will people feel that right way? uncertainty? of course there is. what's this about? about higher than normal union participation rates in michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania. trump got to run 40% of the labor vote last time. obviously a disconnect between the management and labor and union leadership, but when they start demonizing and saying that the trump, the biden

administration is selling these folks down the river that ignores the record. 800,000 new jobs. michigan, down over the first years of trump administration. up over the first year of the biden administration. those facts got to matter end of the day. >> donald trump went there for stage craft, for a photo op. for counterprogramming to the republican debate. and he continues to lead in the republican primary. it was a totally effective charade when so far as demonstrating that the real show is between me and joe biden here in michigan and nothing to do with the quibbling you hear in southern california. i think that's the real point here. he's leading. and he's going to try to appeal culturally to white disenfranchised white working class voters that helped him get there the first time. >> effect live, and clearly, biden's doing it today with the democracy speech down in

arizona. talk about going forward. the dynamic. two people running in the general election race whether or not that's official or not. everyone stick around. speaking with candidates are chris christie and former vice president mike pence in our 8:00 a.m. hour as well. who won the debate last night? did anyone win? we asked voters in iowa. >> desantis. one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. haley? one, two, three, four, five, six. pence?

this morning iowa republicans weighing in on ho they think won last night's gop primary event with less than four months before caucuses in their state. while former donald trump is the undeniable front-runner these debates are helping them chooses an alternative candidate. cnn has more. >> reporter: now watched both republican presidential debates with loyal republicans in story county iowa. both times exasperation at the frequent candidate interruptions but all 18 people in our assembled group say the debates have been valuable to them. who do they think did best in this second debate? >> christie? so toughness doesn't appeal to anybody tonight.

desantis? one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. haley? one, two, three, four, five, six. pence? ramaswamy? one. scott? all right. so looks like desantis is the winner in this room. >> reporter: during last month the debate vivek ramaswamy got the highest number of hands raised. ron desantis came in third behind nikki haley. jeff ortiz picked ramaswamy then. desantis now. >> i thought that desantis, because vivek won the last debate, i think overall consensus. he was a target tonight, and so that i think that took a lot of the personal attacks against, away from desantis and he was able to speak to the issues more than everybody else. >> deborah stoner went from hail toy desantis. >> i feel like he represented himself well and did a lot to show that he is a true winner in

the, that he could win a general election. >> reporter: 16 of these 18 people say they're undecided which republican to caucus for. one says he knows he'll caucus for desantis. another says he's for burgum. none as of yet committed to donald trump. and most tell us they think trump should be taking the debate stage. >> i think it's disrespectful he didn't come to try to earn iowans votes, because so many people's votes are still up for grabs here in iowa. so not coming to try to earn that with the other candidates i think is a sign of disrespect and i don't think he earned anyone's vote by not coming. >> reporter: to do you think this was a bad night for. pence. >> pence, pence. >> why are y'all saying pence? >> he comes across a little bit like not very believable to me. he's -- he's rather pious-sounding, in his manner. >> reporter: everyone in our panel wants to see less commotion between the candidates, but all in all -- >> what kind of question -- do

you think this was good for the party, this debate tonight jr. >> yes. >> yes. >> reporter: not the first i've been with not happy about candidates interrupting each other. that said, seems everyone we're with is looking forward to watching debate number three, because after all the great majority of them are still undecided. poppy, phil? >> yeah. gary tuchman, thank you. his pieces such a highlight the morning after the debate. you see in realtime how folks are thinking. >> learn from them. his historyonics. >> there's that. still no deal in washington. look at the clock. yikes! government shutdown, looks like all but inevitable and the economic impact is going to be severe. we'll talk about that. and bruce springsteen making a big announcement about his tour sure to disappointment fans. hope he's well and recovering. back soon. ♪

welcome back. wish we could tell you we're not in this position, but we are. two days away from a government shutdown. no deal in sight. that is clear. house republicans throwing cold water on the prospect passing a bipartisan proposal and a number of republicans and democrats in the house proposing no more funding to ukraine. >> and if they can't extend a funding bill, could affect food safety and museums and national parks and more. what can we expect if funding lapses? past shutdowns offer a very clear guide. >> when we hear things like, this shutdown could go on for months or years, we don't have months or years. we have creditors. we have medical bills. we have mortgages. we have rent. we have things that we need to take care of. >> that was a federal worker from alabama in 2019. that shutdown, 2018 into 2019

last add record 35 days. more than 800,000 federal employees forced to go on unpaid leave or work without pay. >> i have enough for one more mortgage payment and got to go to carmax tomorrow and sell my car. >> you're going to sell your car? >> i have to. >> i don't think that we should be -- held captive like our pay cz cz checks should be held captive because of something they need, to, like, brawl out. >> she's exactly right. those women from ogden, utah. one of highest concentrations of federal workers in the west at the time. the mayor told cnn then, the shutdown had a real, real economic impact. >> the federal employees are part of the ecosystem that helps st support all of these small business owners and shop owners. >> a ripple effect? >> absolutely. >> it was across the broader u.s. economy according to the congressional budget office the

shutdown cost this economy $11 billion. $3 billion of which evaporated. never came back when people went back to work. >> what about air travel during the last shutdown? air traffic controllers working without pay issued this warning at the time. "were not calculate the level of play or predict at which the entire system will break." head of the air traffic controllers association. >> starting to see routine mistakes in clearances being made, because controllers are distracted. >> scary. routine mistakes on the 35th day of that shutdown, 10 air traffic controllers in virginia and florida decided to stay home. their absence temporarily shut down travel at new york's laguardia around causing delays at other major hubs. and actions along with staffing issues already brewing at the tsa tipped scales in washington driving president trump to agree to a three-week cease-fire.

>> what about the political fallout from that very long shutdown? agreed to in january 2019 did not include the billions of dollars in border wall funding trump demanded and led to the shutdown in the first place. three weeks later trump declared a national emergency to unlock the funding and a spending bill from congress that averted another shutdown. >> we're going to confront the national security crisis on our southern border, and we're going to do it one way or the other. we have to do it. >> politically trump lost the shutdown fight. one poll found more than half of americans blamed trump and the republicans after all of it for the shut down and another poll found seven in ten americans didn't think the border wall was worth the shutdown. >> if the government shuts down remains to be seen if republicans will get blamed again. as for trump's border wall, political rivals dings him for it including just last night. >> he said he was going to build a wall across the whole border. built 52 miles of wall saying

mexico would pay for it. if mexico knew only build 52 miles might have paid for the 52 miles. >> so we're going to do it again. >> shorthand this. no one wins in this. >> right. >> only people lose and it's not the people in congress who are having these fights based on nothing that will eventually end with no wins. >> exactly right. >> elect people to do think job. >> pointless and dumb. >> and keep the government running. 1 staying on this, of course. republican candidates minus the front runner took the stage last night. target of most of the attacks, all of that ahead. and president biden will take on former president trump today calling him an ongoing threat to democracy ahead of a potential 2024 matchup. we'll dig in on that big speech. that's ahead.

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