tonight, millions of people in new york city and other parts of the northeast are dealing with a flash flood emergency. when the storm finally passes tomorrow, several months, yes, months' worth of rain will have fallen in just 24 hours. streets turned into rivers. this is what it looked like in brooklyn today. at laguardia airport some travelers were forced to wrap plastic bags around their feet just to get through the standing water that had filled the airport. elsewhere they had to bring in heavy machinery for water rescues. in new jersey this police officer carried a man on his shoulders after he was trapped

in his car. there was so much rain a sea lion at the central park zoo managed to escape her pool when it flooded. the zoo says that she roamed around for a bit but she was eventually returned safely to her exhibit tonight. thank you for joining me on this friday night. "cnn primetime" with abby phillip starts right now. this is america's debt. more than $33 trillion. and the first time that clock has reached that grim milestone. that is more than a quarter million dollars per taxpayer. tax cuts, stimulus programs, defense spending, pandemic unemployment, all of them to blame. and any fair person would agree that that is unsustainable. so the republican mission to lower that number makes some sense. the problem is their method of

drawing attention to it is about to shut the american economy down. the government down. and negatively impact americans who don't have the time or frankly the money for the poison of today's politics. good evening. i'm abby phillip. and in just 24 hours the clock will run out. hard-liners in the congress are demanding drastic cuts to spending. they don't want to spend another time on ukraine. they want to spend it on the border instead, they say. it's a fair debate, but here is what is at stake here. on saturday night if there is a shutdown while all of this plays out it is a reminder of the real-life consequences of what happens if there is no deal. your flights will be delayed. thousands of airport workers will go without pay. more than 1 million active-duty troops won't get paid. border agents won't get paid either. the white house says that the u.s. is left vulnerable. if pentagon workers are furloughed, small businesses won't get new loans, food inspections, they won't happen either. museums and national parks,

forests, all of that closed. student loans will be disrupted. and so is the money that goes to school districts. children won't have access to headstart programs, food stamps may be disrupted. and all of that depends on the shutdown's length. food banks won't be able to place new orders. major research programs involving everything from cancer to the environment will pause. that's a lot. and it's a lot to discuss with our next guest, republican congressman cory mills of florida, who is in the thick of it right now over on capitol hill. first of all, congressman, thank you for being here, but can you give us a sense now, 24 hours almost away from the shutdown, what's the path out of this to avoid a shutdown? what are you hearing from your leadership about what we might see in the next 24 hours? >> well, first let me just go ahead and comment on some of the items you were talking about. social security payment does not stop. medicare medicaid does not stop. va benefits do not stop. post offices do not stop. our military's paid on the 30th which means we do have time to

get our 12 appropriations bills across within the actual specified timeline. there are actual things that are being moved. and i'm flabbergasted that we're continuing to try and talk about what we need to do to try and cut our way to prosperity when the reality is that we need to come up with an actual economic growth strategy that gets our gdp to national debt ratio under control. look, simple math. we have to spend less and make more. and we don't have a plan for that. and our $33 trillion has been driven not under just democrat and republican but both alike as leadership. so it's killing our middle class. and that's why we have to get a grip on it. >> yeah, i think a lot of people would certainly agree with that. the issue is the timing. i think you would agree, we're just at the brink here. can i just ask you about some of the scenarios? my understanding is some of these were things that were laid out in the conference meeting this afternoon by the speaker. some of them are other things our reporters are picking up. would you be in favor of a clean senate bill that does not fund ukraine? yes or no? >> the bottom line is i wouldn't be responsible to make a decision and say i am --

>> would you vote for it? >> i would not vote for a clean -- >> what about -- >> but i also want to say if we're talking about timeline, though, why don't we talk about the fact that joe biden for six months wouldn't even have a debt ceiling discussion? why aren't we talking about that? that pushed the time scale to the right automatically. >> that's fair. i just wanted to -- >> when f.r.a. came about the fiscal responsibility act that didn't happen until june, july. that could have happened a lot earlier if joe biden and everything r everyone else was willing to come to the table -- >> but congressman, there was a deal made and now this is an effort by some republicans to change the deal. so let's put that to the side for just a second because i do want to just get to some of the scenarios just so people understand where you stand. what about a continuing resolution that's a short-term bill that would fund the government through november 17th, maybe include disaster aid but no aid for ukraine no, aid for the border? yes or no? is that something you can support? >> i'm not on board for any c.r. but i am open to listening certain negotiations on a funding -- >> what about just a two-week

proposal that just literally gives you more time to do what you're asking for, which is to come up with a more robust plan for government spending? >> but let's face the fact. we have four appropriation bills that just passed off the floor. the senate passes those appropriation bills alone, that funds 70% of our overall government. why are we not putting the pressure on the senate to pass the four appropriation bills? and by the way, they've had no con v.a. for months now. they're also not doing their job while we're doing ours to fulfill the -- >> i think the issue here is obviously you would agree time. there's just not the time. i mean, your conference this week has spent a lot of time trying to get these bills through. some of them have been successful. some have not. so it's not as if you all have been just hammering them out. you've been struggling on this. i think the issue is why not just have a little bit more time to hammer out some of the details? that you want to hammer out that i think you would agree is not

something you can just snap your fingers and do overnight. >> if you look at what we've done just in the last 72 hours. i'm a brand new freshman to congress but i will say this. congress is very unique. you can either do three days' worth of work in three months or three months' worth of work in three days. we've proven over just the last 72 hours that we're able to pass multiple appropriation bills with only two more remaining in committee and rules that need to come out. so i do believe if you look at our military as an example who got paid on the 30th and the 1st, their next paycheck comes up on the 15th. i think within that time frame you should have enough. but even if not we pass aid d.o.d. appropriations bill. we passed no con v.a., we passed our state and foreign ops. we can support our embassies or military -- >> there's still a lot more to do. can i get you to respond to what your colleague dan crenshaw said earlier today? just take a listen. >> it shows people that when you don't play as a team and you don't make your demands clear ahead of time like we wanted to do with the border you're just going to lose. and so they made us lose. it's like they wanted us to lose. >> he's essentially saying that at the end of the day all of

this sort of -- this effort that you and your colleagues are making to stop some of these c.r.s will result in a more liberal bill at the end of the day. >> well, look, i respect my colleagues. i've never been kind of one of those to say anything negative. but i can tell you right now we passed an actual border policy bill called h r2 secure the border act that had everything we need to include e-verify and the senate has refused to take that bill up. i look at the actual facts here. we've passed in the last six months we've passed hr-1 to get a low cost energy act. we passed h r2 secure the border act hr-5 parental bill of rights. hr-21 to stop the president from selling our petroleum reserves and limit save grow which even the president himself said he would not actually get to include the d.c. crime bill he threatened to veto. we have done more in the actual house than the senate has been willing to do. what the senate's been trying to do is jam us by trying not to do their jobs. >> it's two chambers. you both have to work together. i want to ask you about one last thing. and i just want to remind our audience, you are a veteran. so i want to play this for you.

this is from the departing joint chiefs chairman, mark milley, speaking today. listen. >> we don't take an oath to a country. we don't take an oath to a tribe. we don't take an oath to a religion. we don't take an oath to a king or a queen or to a tyrant or a dictator. and we don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator. we don't take an oath to an individual. we take an oath to the constitution. >> a lot of people interpreted that as a swipe at former president donald trump, who i should note suggested that he should be executed recently. >> well, i didn't take that as a direct swipe at the president or the former president. look, it's absolutely a fact. when i served in the military, we serve our nation and we serve to protect and basically defend our constitution of the united states. we don't serve political agendas. i sit on the armed services committee. i sit on the foreign affairs committee. one of the things i looked at was to bring back meritocracy, stop d.e.i. and all the other things that was watering down

and diluting our recruitment strategies. but i can tell you right now what our men and women in uniform who i respect more than anything need to be doing is serving our nation, not serving a political agenda. >> did trump cross the line with that attack against milley? >> i don't think that -- i speak on behalf of the president but i can tell you right now -- >> as a former military service member yourself. >> well, i didn't take offense to it personally, no. >> when trump said he should be executed, you didn't take offense to that? >> well, i've heard a lot of things going back and forth. you're talking about the same guy mark milley who said that we should be reading more on white rage than we should at military defense. they continue to have their back and forth and i disagree -- >> i've got to say there's a big difference -- >> my colleagues make comments at democrats, i hate that democrats make comments -- we don't need any of this back and forth because all it does is sow division. i think at the end of the day dajts rhetoric by anyone who is in office or out of office -- >> how is it dangerous rhetoric for mark milley to make a statement that -- maybe you disagree with it, but it's about policy versus trump saying he thinks he should have been

executed. >> but you also had mark milley who's made -- >> that's not the same thing. >> comments toward the president. >> what has he said about trump that has suggested that trump - even close to that? >> he made a few comments saying if i would have known the president was going to go across the street and hold up the bible i never would have walked beside him. >> how is that close to -- >> well, no, it's not necessarily that i'm trying to make a one for one extension. what i'm trying to explain is a lot of them have taken shots at each other for personal reasons. the same thing we see within our conference or within the house as well. but at the end of the day all it does is sow division and our job should be as elected representatives or anyone who serves in government is to be able to bring our nation together -- >> congressman, with all due respect, i think you would agree that mark milley making statements that you disagree with on a policy level -- >> i don't think anyone should make any comments about executing -- >> him even saying i shouldn't have done something that i did. it's not the same thing as trump

saying the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, the top military officer -- >> well, i certainly wouldn't have made that comment. let me put it that way. >> can't you just say it's across the line? i don't understand why it's hard to say. >> well, it's not hard to say. i actually don't know the full context. i didn't know -- this is the first time hearing it myself. my whole thing is i don't think you should wish violence on anyone for any reason. that's just my stance on everything. i would have to look at context of what he said it in or what the actual background was. but the bottom line is i think you're seeing where everyone's taking shots. everyone's frustrated. everyone's furious about what's happening in the government. everyone's unhappy about cost of living. everyone's unhappy about what's going on across the country. so it's sowing a lot of frustration and division and it's something we have to address. >> i think that one of the things that -- i hope that you go and read what the former president said -- >> i haven't, actually -- >> but there is a difference between disagreement -- >> no doubt. >> right? and threats. and i think that's what this is really about at the end of the day. >> i also hear a lot of democrat threats as well where they say we should protest and get in the

fas of those who are there. we should basically -- >> if you condemn that it should be an easy call. congressman cory mills, thank you. >> thank you. >> we do have breaking news tonight. special counsel jack smith is now asking a judge in donald trump's election interference case to impose a limited gag order on the form err why president. the prosecutors are citing a truth social post by trump that publicly attacked milley, who is a witness in the case. and tonight on camera trump did the same thing. >> what he did is really treasonous. if you look at what he said to china, he's either stupid or it's treason. but what he said to china should never be allowed. that can never be allowed in our country -- >> did you suggest -- >> general milley, who i know, is a lazy guy. billions and billions of dollars' worth of equipment to the taliban. general milley's a lazy guy

who's not very smart. >> let's discuss this with lawyer mark childress. he serves as investigative counsel for the january 6th committee. marcus, you're seeing here the special counsel moving very quickly to take some of this stuff and use it as evidence to push the judge for a limited gag order. how successful do you think they'll end up being? >> i think what the special counsel's trying to do is trying to stop what happened on jan 6th. right? the former president was making comments about vice president pence at the time and then it led to rioters saying hang mike pence on the steps of the capitol inside the capitol. you no you see the special counsel taking recent statements from the former president, putting it in his reply brief and letting the court know we don't want to see rioters or people coming to the courthouse threatening our witnesses. >> and by the way, mark milley is a witness. >> yep. >> this is incredibly pertinent. >> it's incredibly pertinent. and that was one of the more effective parts of this filing. the special v special counsel took these statements that have been made since the last motion

a couple weeks ago about current witnesses such as vice president pence and general mark milley and said the court has a chance to come in here and try to stop a harm from happening or even bias the jury pool from having certain opinions about these witnesses that are going to be called during the trial. >> one of the other developments today in the georgia election be interference case is that one of the defendants, scott hall, took a plea deal and he's cooperating now with witnesses. he is a critical figure in a lot of this. he helped someone like sidney powell get access to those voter machines. the prosecutors actually allege that he held a lengthy phone call with another of the defendants in this case. what do you think is the significance of all of this? and does it suggest that early on in this process we could see a lot more of this? >> i think we've all been waiting to see who's going to flip first, who's going to cooperate, and everyone's been thinking someone's going to do it. and now we're seeing this start to happen. this is incredibly fast. this indictment was filed on august 14th. that's six weeks ago.

within six weeks we now have an individual who's now cooperating. i think it should be noted that his charges were reduced down to a misdemeanor. he's only going to be serving probation. he's going to be cooperating. that looks good if you're one of the other defendants also flipping -- >> does that tell us anything about how much cooperation they think they can get from him, that they really reduced any penalties for him? >> i think you can look at it that way but also it's how these prosecutions go. when i was prosecuting cases if someone was going to cooperate and help me early on in the investigation you're probably going to get better terms because you want people who have been charged to come back and testify against others. i think what makes it special about scott hall is is this is a rico enterprise and someone's at the top and someone's at the bopt giving orders. i kind of put him more at the bottom taking orders. you no you have someone at the bottom who might be testifying about what he was told from middlemen or people at the top and i think you have to be a little scared if you're at the top of that chain as you move toward trial. >> yeah, things moving really quickly. marcus childress, thank you so much again for joining us. and tonight, parts of new

york city are underwater. and its mayor is facing some big-time criticism. plus, one of the rumors candidates to fill the late dianne feinstein's seat joins me next. and 27 years later there is finally an arrest tonight in the unsolved murder of tupac shakur. we'll discuss. ♪ ♪ the sweeter the juice ♪ ♪ i say the darker the flesh the deeper the roots ♪

tonight parts of new york city are, as you can see there, underwater. torrential rains unleashed historic floods in the city. streets, subway stations, schools, even the city's airports all flooded. and incredibly a full month's worth of rain fell in brooklyn in just three hours today. but tonight the mayor eric adams is pushing back on criticism that he didn't do enough to prepare for this ferocious storm. >> i put out clear orders to all of the men and women of my team that you must lead. if the mayor's the only one that can communicate to the public, we're in trouble. i have to run a city. communicated around 2:45, 2:50 yesterday. communicated to new yorkers. we have something called our nyc notifications that we sent out that went out early yesterday as well. and then the news media. you have to be living under a rock if you didn't know this storm was coming because the news media did an amazing job. we use social media.

we did exactly what was needed. and you see the results. >> joining me now is jessica ramos, democratic member of the new york state senate. mayor adams there strongly defending his response to the weather. what's your take? >> well, it's been a really tough day for new yorkers, to be honest. it has been really reminiscent of our experiences when hurricane ida happened two years ago. that's why we feel so frustrated that it doesn't seem like any plans were put in place to properly prepare new yorkers for what took place today, for the rainfall that we're expecting also tonight and tomorrow. and quite frankly, you know, we want to see a lot less playing defense on behalf of the mayor to protect himself and much more offense fighting climate change. there's money sitting on the table from the inflation reduction act that can be used towards upgrading our sewage

infrastructure, which is really what we need here in new york to accommodate our growing population. and unfortunately, our system is just too old. so -- >> senator, his response to some of this is there were no serious injuries or deaths reported today in new york. he's citing that as evidence that the information got where it needed to go and while we see a lot of flooding that people ultimately were able to survive it at the end of the day. >> and we got very lucky today. but hurricane ida did not -- we didn't fare as well in hurricane ida and certainly superstorm sandy. so actually the history of these storms with flash floods and heavy rainfall has been quite tragic. we've lost neighbors in the past. and of course we are now beginning to assess the millions of dollars in damage to

homeowners. a lot of seniors who live on fixed income and have now lost their boiler just a few months ahead of winter. this is putting new yorkers really in dire straits when we all know that we've been feeling the squeeze already. >> i have to ask you here before you go, progressives of course have floated your name as a potential primary challenger to the mayor in the next election, in 2025. are you considering running against him? do you think that he is not up to the job? >> i'm very flattered. to me it's really a vote of confidence in what i do and my work ethic. i think right now i'm really focused on pointing out where there are -- where there's room for improvement in the administration of the city, and i am committed to making sure that we have a mayor that is actually going to take the public safety of new yorkers seriously, whether that's going to be me or someone else. for me the priority is really

getting new yorkers out of this war against climate change that we're not taking seriously enough so we can keep everyone safe. >> well, state senator jessica ramos, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> and as the nation mourns the late senator dianne feinstein, one of her possible replacements will join me on whether she'd be up for filling her seat. plus, rfk jr. is now teasing a major announcement amid speculation that he'll make an independent run for the presidency. what it may mean for the 2024 race. that's ahead.

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president biden ordering american flags to be flown at half staff in honor of senator dianne feinstein of california, the longest-serving female member of the senate, who died last night at the age of 90. she worked up to the very last minute, ending just yesterday by casting a vote in the chamber where she served for more than 30 years. she was a trailblazer, a fixture in california politics, and then in washington for decades. here is just one moment from the senate floor back in 1993 that

sums her up. >> so the gentlelady from california needs to become a little more familiar with firearms and their deadly characteristics. and i say that because it is -- >> personal privilege for a moment, please. >> yes, certainly. >> i am quite familiar with firearms. i became mayor as a product of assassination. >> i'm aware of that. >> i found my assassinated colleague and put a finger through a bullet hole trying to get -- i proposed gun control legislation in san francisco. i went through a recall on the basis of it. i was trained in the shooting of a firearm when i had terrorist attacks with a bomb at my house when my husband was dying, when i had windows shot out. senator, i know something about what firearms can do. >> tough as nails. and now governor gavin newsom has to appoint a lawmaker to

serve out the rest of her term. my next guest has been rumored to be on that short list. she is san francisco mayor london breed, and she joins me now. mayor, thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> of course. >> i want to start by asking you about your relationship with senator feinstein. you as mayor of san francisco are just the second female mayor of that city, and she was the first. what was that relationship like? i know you wrote today, she called you early on to offer her support. >> well, sadly i became the second woman mayor because of a tragedy as well. we lost our mayor, ed lee, who died in office, and i was president of the board of supervisors just like she was and one of the first calls that i received when work got out that the mayor had passed was from our senator dianne feinstein, offering me words of support, of encouragement and really taking me through those

moments when she took on the same role during a tragedy, and to stay the course, stay focused, to lead the city to make sure i am doing everything i can to give people comfort in a time of tragedy. >> and this is an important moment for the state of california as well. as we mentioned a little earlier, your name has been floated as a potential replacement. is that job something that you would be willing and ready to take on if the governor asked? >> well, right now i am mayor of san francisco. i am running to be mayor of san francisco for next year. and i want to continue to be mayor of san francisco. >> i'll just note that that's not a no. but i do want to ask you more broadly, though, because this is a very important issue, especially for african americans in the state of california that used to have a black senator, and governor newsom has said he wants to appoint a caretaker to this role. do you think that it is fair to

appoint a black woman only as a caretaker in this role, something that people like congresswoman barbara lee have taken offense to? >> well, i think it would be -- i hope that whomever he appoints, which i know the governor made a commitment to appoint an african american woman to serve in that role. my hope is that that person decides to run for office. i don't support the idea of a caretaker. i do think that we need someone in that role who understands what it means to be courageous, similar to dianne feinstein. i think barbara lee is an extraordinary congresswoman and she knows what it means to be courageous. and my hope is i'm a big supporter of hers, and my hope is to see her in that seat. >> so you mentioned this courage that -- you just mentioned it a second ago. one of the things just in the last couple of days you've talked about is requiring drug testing for welfare recipients

in your city as san francisco battles a fentanyl epidemic, also battling some serious crime issues. do you think that your party, the democratic party, has been too lenient on this issue of crime? are you trying to show some courage here by pushing back on what some in your party might think is the right approach to dealing with these issues? >> well, i would say that many of the decisions that i make as mayor aren't really about my party. they're more about my personal experiences as well as my desire to see my city safe. some people know that i unfortunately lost a sister to a drug overdose. i grew up in the crack epidemic in public housing where, you know, drug use and the addiction was all around me and losing friends and loved ones to drugs and to the criminal justice system was a normal part of my life. and part of my recommendation is

really coming from people who were formerly incarcerated and who continue to call themselves former addicts from the work that they're doing and just the challenges they experienced in their life in the past and the need for us as a city, and i can only speak to san francisco and my relationships there, but as a city how we have been far too lenient, how we need to make sure that people are held accountable, and to be clear my goal in this is to require not sobriety. it's to require that you are a part of a treatment program, which we can do under california state law. and i think that whatever we have available to us we need to use it. fentanyl and what it's doing in terms of the number of deaths -- we had more deaths from fentanyl overdoses than we did during the covid pandemic, and we shut the entire world down to deal with that. and this fentanyl crisis, which

is not just happening in san francisco, it's happening all over the country, we have to start taking really aggressive steps. it's not a democratic issue. it's not a republican issue. it's really the desire to do everything we can to try and address substance use disorder in this city and in this country. >> and real quick before you go, as you know, target has decided to close a number of stores in the city of san francisco. what's your reaction to that? >> well, i would just say that i understand that there's a challenge with what is happening around retail and retail theft. not just here in california but all over the country and especially a lot of major cities. but unfortunately, the highlight of this happens to be mostly with san francisco. things are changing. san francisco is still an amazing city. it's a beautiful city. it's a place people visit from all over the world. but also it's a changing city. and people don't necessarily shop in the same ways that they

did before. we have a lot of companies here where the ai, artificial intelligence capital of the world, we're starting to see that industry grow significantly. how people shop, how people move around the city and drive, autonomous vehicles, you name it, it's happening here in san francisco. and it requires us to make some significant adjustments in how we use our retail establishments as well. so i think it's -- you know, the retail theft is definitely a problem that we need to address but it's a problem that's also happening in other places all over the country as well. >> yeah. and as you noted, there could be other factors as well. mayor london breed, good to talk to you on this day. and my condolences to you and all those who were close to senator feinstein. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> and with me now to break down all of that is brian fallon, the dprerkt of demand justice and the former press secretary for hillary clinton's 2016 presidential campaign. he's got a lot of titles. we're going to give him that

one. valencia johnson is also with us, former senior adviser to president biden in his 2020 campaign. so brian, what do you make of what you just heard from london breed? she didn't knock it down, but she did say she supports barbara lee. >> yeah, barbara lee -- this is a very spirited contest for the senate seat that was already taking place before the news of dianne feinstein's passing. newsom's in a bit of a tricky situation right now. he has said that he's not going to pick anybody that's running. and so that makes people like mayor breed a contender. i think that that's probably the right decision. there's a lot of pressure on him to maybe go for a barbara lee even though she's running. but if you look at what's happened in the past traditionally when there's been an active race going or candidates that are putting their names out there already for a seat that was coming up and then an incumbent senator died, you usually do see a placeholder type pick put in there -- >> the problem is he didn't do that the last time and this is what is getting people upset. especially black women in california. >> absolutely.

i understand the sentiment of wanting to not get in the middle of that race, but it just seems as though a black woman in a position to lead is going to be set up with conditions. and that is unfair. right? to take a black woman -- there are tons of black women in california that are extremely qualified for this position. but to take them out of their current position, whatever that might be, in the state if they're mayor or whatever it might be, and to put these conditions they can't run again is very problematic, especially when we see what black women have done for the democratic party, this deficit in the senate right now with no black woman. and so it is frustrating as a black woman political strategist to see these conditions and these parameters. >> do you agree? i mean, that he's kind of boxed himself in here. >> it's a tough spot. i don't envy him. i think that he would probably be getting more blowback, though, if he reached into this primary and picked one of these three candidates right now. so it's -- but it's not an enviable spot to be in. >> he understands he's got to do

this really quickly. i want to get your take, though. rfk jr. is expected to announce on october 9th that he's going to go into the presidential race now as an independent, not a democrat, and run against joe biden. does it help, hurt? some people have actually suggested this could hurt trump. >> well, so first of all, this is a sign of weakness that rfk is having to resort to this. when he first got into the race he was running against joe biden in the democratic primary and he had the benefit of the doubt as a result of the kennedy name. i think at the beginning when he first got in you saw him polling as high as like 15%, 20%. and his numbers have since nose-dived because every media appearance he spouts conspiracy theories, made anti-semitic comments about the spread of covid a couple months back, and now he's in a place of irrel irrelevance. so this is clearly a desperate bid to make himself relevant again. the last polling i saw showed that he was more popular with republican voters at this point than with democratic voters. he's underwater with democratic voters. so i think you could make an argument that he could theoretically pull more votes from trump than biden. >> we also last night, we spoke

to dr. cornel west. he's also running against biden. just generally speaking how worried should the white house be about these third-party bids, about these challenges in the primary? anything like that that could throw a curveball into this race. >> you know, listen, third-party candidates really aren't helpful for democrats, to be honest. and i think the reality here is there are a lot of people who are frustrated with our politics as usual. and i understand wanting a multi-party system. we are literally not there. and my frustration is actually with the cornel wechts sts and s of the world. if you want to make joe biden better running against him is not the way. there are ways to push and challenge him and ensure that the policies that he is going to enact in his second term are more inclusive. but this is actually handing over an election to someone who has 91 charges against him. right? and the other piece here too, a friend of mine was telling me that there was some focus grouping around some black men and roughly 25% of black men are

right now supporting donald trump. i think the biden campaign is paying attention to all this. we're still a year and a half out. but of course they are paying attention and we'll see how this race shapes up. >> that last point continues to be an issue. it was last cycle and it will be again. brian and alencia, thank you for both coming in on a friday night. hope you have a great weekend. coming up next ahead of us, the moment from the impeachment that overshadowed all the talking points that republicans wanted to make. watch this. >> when we start talking about things that look like evidence, they want to act like they blind. they don't know what this is. these are our national secrets. looks like in the shitter to me. >> that was congresswoman jasmine crockett, and she joins me live on her viral rebuke. plus an arrest over the murder of tupac shakur nearly three decades after his killing.

okay. this really may be a first. the word "shitter" has now been entered into the congressional record. >> when we start talking about things that look like evidence. they want to act like they're blind. they don't know what this is. these are our national secrets, looks like in the shitter to me. >> that was democratic congresswoman jasmine crockett putting her republican colleagues on blast during an impeachment hearing against president biden, accusing them of willfully ignoring donald trump's mishandling of classified documents. and that congresswoman is here with us now. that was quite a moment. i don't know if that went exactly as you planned. but why did you go there? >> okay. so let me break this down. to be clear, nancy mace continued to cuss in this hearing. and my attitude is i will match your energy or exceed it. and i felt like i was going to use a better, you know, way of

using the word when i used it. so i did. and that was that. >> what do you say, though, to people who -- just look at all of this. you moscowed nancy mace. we've seen some other things, lauren boebert and others and marjorie taylor greene privately, publicly using profanity. >> oh, yeah. >> matching energy with energy, is that always the right strategy? what do you say to people who say it's not? >> i say they don't understand what's going on in congress and they don't understand what's going on in our country. right now i think historically -- and i applaud those who have come before me. democrats have always wanted to be the ones to say this is how we are supposed to conduct ourselves. and they think that just by maintaining that type of decorum that magas and others will respond and do the same. but they don't. and so sometimes you've got to make sure that they know that you can bring it as well. as well as push back. and that's what you're seeing right now.

the younger generation is pushing back quite vigorously. and i think a lot of the american people, not just young people, but i've got constituencies of all ages, and they tell me thank you so much because they're tired of us kind of sitting back quietly. and this is a very emotional thing. in that moment i was very emotional for a lot of reasons. number one, as an attorney it was an affront to me that we are going through this sham impeachment where there is no evidence and you didn't even try to bring one witness that could bring any evidence. there was no fact witnesses. on top of the fact that right now our government is about to shut down. the one thing we are supposed to be able to do is pass a budget. and they weren't doing that. >> do you think that we will see more of these impeachment hearings? your colleague jamie raskin seemed to suggest that perhaps we won't because this one really didn't go the way republicans wanted. >> if they know what's good for them, they will let it go. i mean, listen, we have an all-star cast. you saw that clip. i was surprised that my clip was

a clip that ended up going viral. every single member on the house democratic side was extra strong. and so, you know, most people can't sit around and watch hearings all day. they're working and trying to make sure that they can keep a roof over their heads. but if they know what's good for them, this hearing didn't go well. it's a bad day for the republicans when even fox news can't spin it. >> we've done multiple fact checks on that hearing. and at best there was just a lot of information that was omitted. i do want to talk about the government shutdown. you just mentioned it. here's marjorie taylor greene, one of your colleagues, what she had to say about democrats in all this. >> democrats are clearly -- they're fine with shutdowns. they shut down the whole country over covid for far too long and the american people suffered. i promise you, most americans aren't too worried about the government shutting down. >> most americans aren't too worried about the government shutting down. what's your response to that?

>> she's clueless. and she's out of touch. you know, and maybe she doesn't understand fully how much we do in the government. that's part of the problem. and so she doesn't recognize, number one, in talking to -- i come from a district that has a ton of aviation. air traffic controllers were the ones that saved us last time. and honestly, i'm hoping they save us again and save us a little bit quicker. you're talking about shutting down business travel as well as those that are traveling for pleasure. but beyond that when we talk about our supply chain issues they were still trying to get over, you're talking about affecting our supply chains. this is a lot bigger than just the government, not to mention the government contractors, not to mention those people that really need some sort of childcare in this country. and we know that head start most likely is not going to have the funding that they need. we know that the republicans continue to say that they love making sure that they're taking care of the border. but they're not going to pay for border patrol. i have talked to those agents.

i can guarantee that they haven't. >> congressman matt gaetz has said he may work with democrats to oust speaker mccarthy. is that something you think you or even your colleagues -- >> listen, mccarthy needs to grow a spine. here's the reality. what he needs to do is tell them listen, there is no one that has the votes. he barely had the votes in the first place. we had to go through 15 rounds. there is no one else that has the votes. so either it's mccarthy or as far as i'm concerned we can go ahead and bring on hakim jefferies, who is a real leader, who definitely has his delegation together. but there's no one else in the republican caucus. so they need to go ahead and either come up with an alternative or go ahead and work with the speaker that they have. >> we'll see what they end up doing. 24 hours until the government shutdown. congresswoman jasmine crockett, thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you so much. >> and it's one of america's most notoriously unsolved mysteries. but now there is an arrest in the murder of tupac shakur. ♪

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this has ban story that largely has gone nowhere for 27 years but now there is a lot changing in the case that has loomed over the rap and music at large for all that time. police in las vegas, nevada are making an arrest now in connection to the murder of tupac shakur shot and killed while leaving a boxing match in the vegas strip in 1996. his murder supercharged the rivalry between east and west coast rappers. the man who was indicted in his killing is duane davis known as keefe d. authorities say he was the ring maker of the plot in retaliation after an attack on his nephew. davis long placed himself at the scene of the crime saying he was in the front seat of the cadillac that came up to shakur's car when shots were fired from the back seat. it has also been the summer of f

bombs in american politics and now looks like they might keep rolling into the fall.

before we go, there has ban lot of choice language in american politics this week. we've heard scum bag, eff off, stuck on stupid. we talked at length about "shitter" being used in a congressional hearing. tonight the former president of the united states decided to top them all off with quite the addition to the swear chart tonight. just a warning seriously this is not safe for kids. >> if somebody is beating you by 10, 15, or 20 points like we are doing with crooked joe biden, let'