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before we go, there has ban lot of choice language in american politics this week. we've heard scum bag, eff off, stuck on stupid. we talked at length about "shitter" being used in a congressional hearing. tonight the former president of the united states decided to top them all off with quite the addition to the swear chart tonight. just a warning seriously this is not safe for kids. >> if somebody is beating you by 10, 15, or 20 points like we are doing with crooked joe biden, let's indict the -- let's
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indict. >> and on that note, i will turn it over to you, pam brown, and "cnn tonight." >> that's quite the turnover there, abby. >> sorry. it really happened. had to do it >> i understand. you can't bleep it out. he is the leading republican president democratic convention candidate. totally get it. have a great weekend. good evening everyone. i'm pamela brown. great to have you with us thon late friday night. there is news happening. donald trump telling reporters tonight he may be in court on monday. >> are you going to your trial on monday? >> i may, yeah. >> that is for the $250 million civil fraud suit. the new york attorney general is bringing that against the former president and his business empire. while in georgia one of trump's codefendants pleaded guilty today, flipping for the prosecution agreeing to testify.
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plus historic flooding in new york city. i mean, these pictures, wow. a month's worth of rain falling in a few short hours today. surging flood waters, overwhelming streets. the subway system and basement apartments, even schools. and the looming question tonight, will there be a shutdown? we are now just 25 hours away from the shutdown of the federal government. if there is no deal made and at this hour the prospects, well, they are looking grim. we'll tell you what leader mccarthy is saying tonight. let's begin this hour with our cnn legal analyst michael moore, former u.s. attorney for the middle district of georgia and chris timmons a former georgia prosecutor. michael, let's kick it off with you. the first guilty plea in the florida election sub version case tonight is from the bail bondsman scott hall who has flipped and will testify in any future hearings on trials. what does that mean for trump or other co-defendants like sidney powell?
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help us put this in context. >> it's interesting when you look at this guilty plea, remember that mr. hall was charged with the grandest election stealing effort in the history of the world basically and now they've come down to five misdemeanor charges and no jail time. it doesn't even lose his right to vote because he won't be a convicted felon. so if is curious to me why the government needed him and the state wanted to use him in this way. i know part of his plea deal is he will cooperate and give truthful testimony. it may be important in the powell case and may not be. we just don't know yet the depth w of what he knows and may have told investigators. there are benefits to him. he is a bail bondsman in georgia. if you have a felony conviction you cannot be a bail bondman so he'd have lost his ability to make a living in that way. i am not surprised to see him take this. what we'll find out as we move
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forward is whether or not he ha information that directly implicates ms. powell or if this is one of those things where the state was just looking to get the first domino to fall in the hopes that his plea puts pressure on other people like her to take a plea as they try to work their way up the ladder. there is no question they're trying to move this closer to trump and they are starting at the bottom. it looks like they've clearly gone to the bottom rung as they are trying to knock the wall down here. >> michael, on that note, do you expect an avalanche of plea deals now? >> i don't really think so. you may see a couple people sort of the low hanging fruit drop off. i'm not sure you'll see that out of the powell and chesebro group. these are trial lawyers experienced, criminal practitioners. it'll take more than somebody pleading to a couple misdemeanors to scare them away from the courtroom. i'm not sure this is going to do that. again, mr. hall may have some information they think is particularly important that they
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wanted to get some critical bit of testimony in. we don't know what all -- we know he testified in the grand jury but we don't know what all is there. we'll see. there is no reason for people to rush too much to a plea because they get to watch the whole case in october and november and for the next half a year as the schedule is laid out before they have to make a decision. they get a preview of the evidence the state has in the case. >> for others, their trial is coming up, right? the prosecutor said today they may offer a plea deal to sidney powell or kenneth chesebro and their trial is set to begin next month i believe. how do you expect this to play out snp >> i don't expect either one of them to plead. they are both attorneys and as an attorney a lot of our identity is wrapped up in being an attorney. if they enter a plea unless it is a misdemeanor like mr. hall did it is going to be a plea that is going to be to a felony most likely rico and they'll have to stop being attorneys at
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that point. i don't anticipate either one entering a plea unless the state offers a sweetheart deal like a misdemeanor, first offender plea like mr. hall got. mr. hall won't be convicted of anything if he successfully completes his plea. first offender act under the state of georgia law is that essentially you never got arrested, never charged in the first place. >> he can continue to vote and won't be a felon or any of that. >> there we go. >> let's talk about jeffrey clark the disgraced former doj official accused of trying to interfere in georgia's election as well as three fake electors. they cannot move their cases to federal court despite their request. what does that mean? does it put more pressure on them to cooperate? >> i think it does in a way that they know they are going to trial in georgia. the thought with going to the northern district by removing your case there is they'd get a more favorable jury pool. north georgia is much more conservative than the city of atlanta itself though the city
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of atlanta is incorporated within the northern district of georgia. i think when you're looking at a jury pool, the most important part of any jury trial is the jury itself. they are the decider. the most important part of any decision is the person ultimately making that decision. when you look at one jury pool that may be likely to acquit you versus another likely to convict you you are much more likely to consider a plea. i think that is where they are at this point >> i want to look ahead no you to next week. it is going to be a busy week. cnn is learning tonight trump just may attend his new york city fraud trial which is scheduled to begin on monday. and that u.s. secret service has met with nypd and court security officials according to our reporting. of course, as you know, chris, he could also be called to testify. how do you think his presence will impact this trial if at all? >> i mean, first of all everybody is going to be paying attention to it. you know, a lot of folks around the world are interested in what the former president is up to. you're right in that the state
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of new york could call him as a witness in the case. based on what the pleadings were that indicated he had a strategic interest in the case i don't think necessarily his own attorneys are going to call him. it is possible. it's also interesting if the state called them themselves. my concern with calling the former president to the stand is that he is not going to answer my questions if i called him to the stand. i might be concerned i put him up and it is much ado about nothing. i think they'll probably stay away from him. i suspect his own attorneys will stay away as well so as not to create testimonies that might hurt him in the other trials pending that are in the criminal arena. >> all right. thank you so much, gentlemen. chris timmons, michael moore, appreciate your insight on this friday night. we have other major news today we are covering torrential rain in new york and new jersey. a month's worth of rain falling in a matter of hours. roads, subways, and homes flooded with first responders jumping into action. cnn's polo sandoval is in
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brooklyn. >> reporter: pamela, good evening. even after a very long day of soaking rains in new york city you can still see flood waters that are quite literally flowing out of brooklyn's prospect park. the flood water eventually makes its way on to some of the nearby streets here and reminds you of the sheer amount of water that fell today in new york city and some of the surrounding regions. some parts getting a month's worth of rain in only a few hours. the result was practically a nightmare for millions of people in america's largest city. the mass transit system or at least parts of it practically paralyzed. and tonight many of those aspects of the transportation system are trying still to get back up and running. new york city mayor eric adams recommending that folks remain on alert tonight and into the weekend though there is some sign of improvement in the forecast. mayor adams also recommending that folks living in the basement apartments be extra on alert because it has proven to
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be deadly in previous storms. mayor adams also fighting back criticism that the city was slow to respond and to warn people about the incoming storm. >> any time you have a flood or major casualty that is part of the narrative, part of the call. i have an amazing team. it did not take me to stand in front of a camera. i have an ex-military expert in charge. i put out clear orders to all of the men and women of my team that you must lead. if the mayor is the only one that can communicate to the public we're in trouble. i have to run a city. >> reporter: also facing some tough questions today new york city's department of education. the chancellor of the school system asked why they did not go with remote learning today. school officials explaining that is only considered for extreme circumstances and simply did not apply in this particular situation in terms of what the city is saying about rescues we did see about 15 people have to
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be rescued from their vehicles during the day and no reports of any injuries or fatalities. >> all right. thanks so much. now to cnn's chad myers who is in the weather center tonight. just how much rain fell? what is up ahead? >> it was the amount of rain in inches but also the rate of rain that made such a difference today that made all of those pictures here. everywhere you see orange including new york city, the bronx, across queens, all 4 inches of rain or more. there were many places with more than 6 inches and very close to 8 here for jfk. 7.97 inches of rainfall fell since midnight, an all time high. there has never been a wetter day in jfk history since they've been keeping track. even places like brooklyn, over 7 inches of rain from this storm alone. now, the rain is gone. it's moved off toward eastern long island and by tomorrow is just a bad memory. there will still be showers tonight and overnight. we could see a few spots in
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yellow of an inch or two but that is about it. this is just about winding down right now. >> all right. chad myers, thanks so much. we are just over 24 hours away from a government shutdown if a deal is not made. coming up i'll speak with a republican who is calling out members of his own party and we'll talk to the people who will actually be affected losing pay checks and much needed assistance. stay with us.
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a government shutdown could be imminent as the house gop is repeatedly failing to reach a deal but could a consensus be reached with nearly 24 hours left on the clock? take a listen to house speaker kevin mccarthy tonight. >> i think if we had a clean one without ukraine on it we could probably move that through. i think if the senate puts ukraine on there and focuses ukraine over america, that could cause real problems. >> joining us is republican
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congressman mike lawler of new york. thanks for coming on, congressman. tonight mccarthy is sending a message to the senate saying they should drop ukraine aid from their bill. if they do there could potentially be a deal. what do you think? is it even realistic? >> i think the most pressing thing right now is to ensure that the american government is funded and that the american people are not impacted by any potential shutdown. it is critically important that we pass a continuing resolution that can get 218 votes in the house and get obviously 51 votes in the senate. so, you know, we are doing everything we can. i'm still here working tonight and through the weekend to avoid a shutdown. i think putting a cr on the floor in the house tomorrow is important. >> so you would support one without any funding for ukraine? >> as somebody who has been a
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supporter of ukraine funding and will continue to be the most pressing issue right now is keeping the united states government funded and open. so whatever it takes to get to 218 votes is important. this is not shirking our commitments to ukraine long term but the most immediate thing is making sure the united states government is open and the american people will certainly not understand shutting down the government over funding of a foreign country. >> but are the hardliners who have been standing in the way of anything passing and of course averting a government shutdown, do you see them softening their stance? do you see an 11th hour, you know, vote to avert a government shutdown? bring us there on capitol hill where you are right now. >> the speaker put forth a conservative cr and,
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unfortunately, 21 of my colleagues voted no. a conservetive cr obviously didn't have 218 votes to pass and get into a place where we are negotiating with the senate. we are in a situation now where you have to pass a bipartisan cr or across the floor with less than 24 hours to go to avert a government shutdown. and so to the speaker's point a clean cr with disaster relief is probably the fastest and cleanest way to get to 218. if democrats in the house refuse to keep the government open over ukraine, i don't think the american people will understand that too well. even, again, as somebody who supports the effort in ukraine. that doesn't make a lot of sense. >> how did we get here though?
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at midnight tomorrow the government will shut down if there is not enough votes. who do you blame for this mess? >> i blame a party of one. i've said that. matt gaetz has used this as a vehicle to try and take out the speaker, threatened to use the motion to vacate. i have no doubt he is going to try to proceed forward with that. this is a guy who is a career politician. he presents himself as somebody who is standing up against, you know, leadership. he is fighting back. but this is a guy whose dad, you know, gave him his seat and basically pulls the strings here, pushing for a government shutdown, and this is a guy who has military bases in his district. he is going to put our active duty military in jeopardy. i think it's wrong. i think it is disgraceful. i think the way he has tried to
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allow his personal vendetta against the speaker to hold the american people hostage is wrong. >> if a shutdown does happen do you think lawmakers should still be paid? people like matt gaetz? >> no. absolutely not. just tonight i submitted a letter to house administration declining my pay during any potential shutdown. i think obviously when you have active duty military who may not receive their paychecks, when you have seniors and veterans who may be impacted in terms of benefits that they are due, when you have government employees who are going to have to show up to work and not be paid all because of a decision by a few folks that is obviously unacceptable. no. i don't think anybody serving in congress should receive their pay during any shutdown. >> do you support efforts to
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oust the speaker? >> no. i think it is absurd and undermines the house republican majority. we were elected to govern, to serve as check and balance on joe biden and i think one individual has allowed petty personal grievances to get in the way of the majority. it's wrong. >> congressman mike lawler, thanks for your time tonight. best of luck to you on capitol hill. >> thank you. as lawmakers scramble to find a path out of this problem of their own making roughly 2.2 million americans who are federal employees are trying to figure out how long they can go without a paycheck. that is not even including the 1.3 million active duty troops and their families. on average federal workers earn between 55 and $65,000 a year. average pay for an army staff sergeant with eight years' experience is 48,500 dollars. many of the service members cannot miss a paycheck. it is not just federal employees
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who will feel the effects. a shutdown means if you are about to buy a home, getting a mortgage is about to get tougher. if you have travel plans brace for longer security lines and flight delays. of the 33 million small businesses in this country, 93% say a shutdown will cost them money. there are repercussions for housing assistance, food assistance, research, food, and water safety. the list is long. for context here the congressional budget office estimated the government shutdown in late 2018 cost $3 billion in permanent losses. on all of that note, let's bring in alexis mcdonald who is a military spouse. alexis is also a government affairs specialist for secure families initiative which works on behalf of military families. how many military families do you know that live paycheck to paycheck and you are right now terrified of not getting the paycheck because of a shutdown? >> pamela, too many military
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families are living paycheck to paycheck. and in the event of a shutdown, that is going -- those circumstances are going to become even worse. not only living paycheck to paycheck but many military families like my own are a one-income family. when you have only one income and that is not guaranteed when you expect it you won't be able to pay your mortgage, car payment. many spouse ors even service members themselves might have student loans they need to pay as well. child care will be impacted because you have to be able to pay for your child care in order to go to work as well. >> i understand you have a daughter. your husband is away for training and may not be able to return home because of military travel that might be delayed or canceled if the shutdown happens? >> yes, that is correct. military travel all falls into
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that same pot of money that we're waiting for congress to appropriate. if we aren't, you know, if that doesn't happen in time and we have a shutdown my husband will have to stay where he is at training until he is able to return home. you know, leaving me with just my daughter who is about 15 months. >> wow. alexis mcdonald, best of luck to you. thanks for coming on and sharing your important perspective. >> thank you, pamela. i want to bring in whitley hasting now a recipient of the special supplement pro-fwram for women, infants, and children commonly known as wic and also a community advocate who helps connect people to wic and snap. you have two young children and have been on wic since 2015. some 7 million people rely on the nutrition program. how crucial is it for this program to stay running? >> it is extremely crucial. i am fortunate that in new york
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state we won't see an immediate impact but when we think about the cvb benefit amount being reduced until congress decides to pass legislation to maintain the higher amounts available since 2021, that is -- those are funds for fruits and vegetables that have been available and i work with a lot of families like myself that are now finding themselves food insecure because of high inflation rates and food prices so it is extremely important and i can't even believe we're having this conversation right now. >> to be clear, my understanding is with a program like wic there is federal grant money that goes to the states and the states run it. like you said maybe in new york you won't immediately feel the impact but it depend if a
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shutdown happens how long it would be for you to feel the direct impact. there are about 42 million people who rely on snap benefits to feed themselves and their families. if this shutdown happens the reality is we could see millions of people struggling to eat or at least experiencing food insecurity, worrying about what's next. what goes through your mind when you hear this? what kind of emotions are you feeling? >> i am infuriated. i mean, federal nutritional programs like snap and wic save lives. there is science based evidence, study after studies have proven how wic is one of our nation's most effective and most successful, cost effective nutritional programs that improves the health of everyone involved. it reduces infant mortality. i mean, i could go on and on about the reasons why we need to maintain funding for it. if not increase funding for it, so i have a lot of words when it
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comes to the thought of us not being able to maintain these programs for families. it is a lifeline and needs to continue to be funded. >> whitley hasty, thank you so much for coming on. >> thank you. threats, confrontations, and personal attacks. the war inside the republican party between just a few members that could lead to a shutdown impacting millions of americans, next.
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shutdown. yet again. so you're probably wondering how did we even get here? i'll bring in cnn's senior political analyst and charlie dent a former republican congressman to help make sense of this if that is even possible. charlie, let's start with you. i just interviewed congressman lawler on the show as you heard and he is saying just now that he is actually willing to vote for a short-term cr without money for ukraine and if democrats don't pass it he says they will be to blame for a shutdown. clearly trying to reframe this. is that strategy going to work you think? >> i certainly appreciate congressman lawler's leadership. he is right we need to keep the government funded at all costs. actually the way i think this thing is going to unfold is that the house can't really pass anything. they tried to pass a continuing resolution today. it failed. now what is going to happen is the senate is going to tee up their bill which will fund ukraine which will fund disaster
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assistance and the government and extend the faa and a few other cats and dogs. and then send it to the house. i suspect that bill will pass with over 70 votes in the senate and that same bill would enjoy a very strong, bipartisan majority in the house of representatives. this could end quickly if the speaker were to allow such a bill to hit the floor. that is the way out of this thing. really quite simple. the problem solver's caucus also has a very thoughtful, responsible bill, too, that could be brought up. these bills will get strong, bipartisan support. i would guess around 300 votes. the republicans in the house are trying to pass this on republican only basis. that is where they're running into this difficulty. >> mccarthy tonight is expressing opposition to the senate stop-gap bill. i think that is important context. president biden said tonight that he believes speaker mccarthy made a terrible bargain
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to retain power. is that how we got here? >> largely. this day has felt almost inevitable from the tortured beginning of the mccarthy speakership, which has been i think in these few months, one of the weakest if not the weakest we've seen a speaker perform at least since world war ii. his strategy from the beginning has been essentially to appease his critics on the right to give them almost or all of what they want and assume that his members in more competitive districts in the end would fall into line. that strategy i think has encouraged his tormenters to believe that he will in the end concede what they want. an impeachment inquiry rejecting all of this. let's go back. he made a deal on appropriations and the debt ceiling fight. this began because he had to walk away from the deal to satisfy critics on the rye.
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it is kind of a neville chamberlain strategy as speaker and has led him into a position where now nothing -- his critics keep moving the goal post, demanding more. there is an obvious solution as charlie notes. they can pass, keep the government open bypassing a bill that would have bipartisan support but alienate those members on the right. mccarthy has a choice to make. is he willing to do that and take the risk of them trying to depose him as speaker or is he going to shut down the government to keep them in the tent as much as possible? >> they are still threatening to oust him. they are trying to appease -- he is trying to appease them. they are still dangling that out there. >> in 2013, there is a portion of the republican conference who wants to be seen as imposing the maximum disruption. it almost doesn't matter what for. some people on the hill, we saw it, the seinfeld shutdown. it really doesn't seem to be
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about anything except doing it. in 2013 republicans shut down the government to try to appeal obamacare. they didn't. it is hard to believe there is going to be major policy concessions from biden or senate democrats to bail them out of their own -- eventually they have to make a bipartisan deal to reopen the government. >> that is about what i was going to go to charlie with. as ron eloquently pointed out, this is really all for nothing because at the end of the day the republicans need to get the democrats on board for any spending bill to pass the senate, right, for the government to function. >> of course they do. we all know this is going to end in a bipartisan agreement. probably the senate bill or something very close to it. everybody knows it. the only question is, can it be done before or after a shutdown? sadly and regrettably it will be done after the government has been shut down. the same thing happened in 2013. i set myself on fire over this
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in 2013 saying just vote for a clean bill. that is what we did 17 days later. they'll do something very similar this time. everybody knows it. the problem for the speaker is by appeasing his critics he has also empowered them and they are emboldened now and never going to support anything reasonable or responsible anyway. i think the speaker was correct to throw down the gauntlet last week and tell those guys you want to move to vacate? go for it and have the fight. i would have the fight after they fund the government responsibly. that is how you get out of this thing. >> worth noting real quick nancy pelosi's majority was no bigger in 2021-2022 than kevin mccarthy's is now. >> worth noting. important context. all right. charlie dent, ron brownstein, thanks for staying up late on this friday. great to see you both. up next trump calling the nation's top general treasonous and lazy tonight after he already said milley deserved to be executed. remember that post on social
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tonight general mark milley stepping down as chairman of the joint chiefs of staff to rousing applause by admirers. his term as the highest ranking military officer in the government was often marked by conflict with former president trump. general milley had this to say about the former president earlier today. >> we are unique among the world's armies. we are unique among the world's militaries. we don't take an oath to a country.
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we don't take an oath to a tribe. we don't take an oath to a religion. we don't take an oath to a king or a queen or to a tyrant or dictator and we don't take an oath to a wanna-be dictator. >> certainly seems at least like he was talking about the former president there, former president trump. and just tonight trump suggesting a second time that milley should be executed for treason. >> milley, what he did is really treasonous if you look at what he said to china, he is either stupid or it's treason. what he said to china should never be allowed. that can never be allowed in our country. general milley, who i know, a lazy guy -- billions and billions of dollars' worth of equipment to the taliban. general milley is a lazy guy who is not very smart. >> let's dive into this. and much more with army veteran paul rykopf and founder of iraq
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and afghanistan best of america. once again trump is attacking milley. this is a distinguished general with four bronze stars and more than half a dozen service medals. his threats are so serious special counsel jack smith is citing them and asking for a gag order in the election interference case as part of his court violence. how is this resting with military members? >> not well at all. it has been a chaotic number of months for our military on the backs of tommy tuberville blocking army promotions and now facing a potential shutdown that could stop their pay. now you have the former commander-in-chief threatening death to our chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. look, general mark milley is a leader. he is a patriot. he is a man of integrity, a man of honor. he is a man who served his country for his entire life and for the former commander-in-chief to attack him and threaten his life is ridiculous. it is reckless. it's radical. it's bad for our national
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security. right now vladimir putin is watching this and celebrating. our enemies are celebrating. to see a former commander-in-chief attacking the senior leader of our military and by default the entire military is unprecedented, unconscionable. jack smith is right to try to gag him because this is bad for our national security. this is treasonous. what trump is doing is treasonous. i think they should find ways to stop him from doing it and lock him up if necessary. if you did this or i did this or the average american did this we'd be getting a knock at the door from the fbi. >> the bottom line is it is part of a pattern. trump is not only directing ire against mark milley but members of the military in general. he has criticized soldiers who died in war, right? yet he had the majority of support among u.s. military veterans in 2020 vs. biden. do you think that is still the case? >> no i don't. i think the military is a pretty diverse community and ultimately this is about a really critical group of people. about 50% of this country is independent. they're not republican.
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they're not democrat. 49% of veterans are independent. i, myself, am a political independent. we are a jump ball. when you hear a radical wing of the gop, not just trump, people like ron desantis who has been bombing away on the military, coach tommy tuberville who neff served a day in his life, radicals who want to defund the troops. it rubs everyone the wrong way and also drives independence away from the gop. this is not the party of john mccain and collin powell anymore. this is very different and is undermining our national security. there is the political part where they are driving away independents and could ultimately cost them the election especially with veterans and in swing states but ultimately it is weakening our national security. to see our political leaders fighting with our military leaders and have someone like mark milley focused o thn instead of defending our shores and looking after our troops is what osama bin laden would love to see, what putin loves to see. the stakes are incredibly high
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and i don't think most americans are paying attention enough frankly. >> i want to talk more about what you referenced. republican senator tuberville holding up the promotions for hundreds of people serving in the military. you talk about how all of this could impact national security. what about morale in general? you know, the politicians as you point out, many of whom never served a day in the military, taking actions like this? >> it is crushing. our troops have become a political football. even worse they've become a political target. general mark milley now has to worry about his personal safety. this is the commander-in-chief, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff of the united states military has to worry about threats from within. that is de moralizing for everyone to see the former president attacking the senior most general in our military is demoralizing. it hurts recruiting. hundreds of military families have been frozen and can't move. they don't know where their kids are going to start school. it is part of a coordinated
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attack by an extreme part of the gop that continues to undermine our national security. they are like political suicide bombers. they don't care what they blow up or who they hurt as long as they can push their radical ideology. they've decided the military of all things is their number one target. not just tuberville, not just trump, it's a coordinate add tack bad for our national security and our traps and hurts morale profoundly. >> active duty service members have to worry now about the looming shutdown right? more than 2 million would be forced to report for duty without pay. you are familiar with the worries military families have. tell us be the that quickly. >> right now family members are watching. service members are watching. some are in harm's way. they have to worry about whether they'll get paid or not because some politicians are holding their pay hostage over a radical agenda? this is really the bottom. this is the worst of politics. when you are using our troops as a political bulls eye to push your agenda.
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the stakes are very, very high. just think about the young man or woman who is right now far from home. they want to get back to their families. they want to serve their country. they don't know if their paycheck is coming next week? it is absolutely ridiculous, radical, and so bad for america that everyone no matter what your party affiliation should be outraged. >> we were just talking to one military spouse who said her husband can't even travel home from training potentially if the shutdown happens. there's all sorts of implications. thank you so much. really important to hear your perspective. >> thank you. we'll be right back.
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