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♪ in adolf hitler's "manifesto" he wrote, "all the great civilizations of the past became decadent because the originally creative race died out as a result of contamination of the blood." he links the poison which has invaded the national blood to, quote, "an influx of foreign blood." the blood reference is reminiscent of the chants by white supremacists in charlottesville in 2017. tonight, donald trump is now under fire for similar language about immigrants. good evening. i'm abby phillip. here what is the former president and current republican front-runner just said about immigrants.

>> we know they're terrorists. nobody has ever seen anything like we're witnessing right now. it is a very sad thing for our country. it's poisoning the blood of our country. it's so bad. and people are coming in with disease, people are coming in with every possible thing that you could have. >> we don't know what really inspired trump to use that language or what was even in his head, but this episode comes as trump's rhetoric, just generally, has become noticeably and objectively more violent in recent weeks. after one of his indictments, he warned, quote, "if you go after me, i'm coming after you." trump accused the outgoing chairman of the joint chief of staffs, mark milley, of treason. and he suggested he deserved to be executed. in his retirement speech, millie indirectly responded. >> we don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator, we don't take an oath to an individual. we take an oath to the

constitution, and we take an oath to the idea that is america, and we're willing to die to protect it. >> as crime has surged in many american cities, trump recently endorsed extrajudicial killings of shoplifters in front of a crowd of fawning supporters. >> very simply, if you rob a store, you can fully expect to be shot as you are leaving that store. [ cheers and applause ] shot! >> also during a recent rally, he mocked former house speaker nancy pelosi and her husband after he was violently attacked with a hammer inside of their home. >> will stand up to crazy nancy pelosi, who ruined san francisco. [ boos ] how's her husband doing, by the way, anybody know? [ laughter ] and she's against building a wall at our border even though she has a wall around her house,

which obviously didn't do a very good job. >> and this week as he turned to the courthouse, turned the courthouse into a campaign stop during a civil fraud trial, he earned a limited gag order for this rhetoric for attacking a court employee on social media and then he turned and escalated the rhetoric against the judge. >> this is a judge that should be disbarred. this is a judge that should be out of office. this is a judge that some people say could be charged criminally for what he's doing. he's interfering with an election, and it's a disgrace. >> and there's more. he then attacked the attorney general, prosecuting him in new york, letitia james, who also responded to him this week. >> we have a racist attorney general who's a horror show. this is a disgrace, and you ought to go after this attorney general because she's turning off everybody from coming in -- >> trump's comments were

offensive, were baseless, they were void of any facts nor any evidence. what they were, were comments that unfortunately fomented violence, comments that i would describing a race baiting. >> it's worth noting many of these officials have increased security because of this kind of rhetoric. during a perilous time for public servants, just this week in a separate incident, a man showed up in the wisconsin capitol looking for the governor. he was armed with a loaded handgun. he was arrested, but then later, he left on bail. hours after that, he showed up at the capitol again. this time he was armed with a baton and a loaded assault-style rifle. there's a lot to discuss about all of this with journalist and former fox anchor geraldo r rivera. thanks for being with us. >> hi, abby, thank you. >> you've known trump, obviously, for a really long

time. what is your reaction to his use of this phrase, that as we laid out, has a really dark, disturbing history? >> i think it's vile. i think it's disgusting. it's very disappointing. to sink to that level, it's for me a personal embarrassment that we were friends for so long. this language is racist. it is really disgusting. and, you know, some things cannot abide. we cannot abide certain things. he has crossed the line. i beseech his followers to listen to what he said about poison blood. who else used that kind of language? that kind of poisonous rhetoric? it was the nazis. and i hate to use "nazi" or "hitler" references. but it is impossible to miss the obvious parallels.

poison blood. it was a direct reference -- he made a direct reference that the migrants, the immigrants, mostly latinos now, may i say, are poisoning, polluting the blood of "real" americans. it is intolerable. it is absolutely beyond the pale. >> look, i mean, it is amazing that after -- how he started his campaign, really with attacks on immigrants, it continues to go this far. trump a trump spokesperson said this in a statement, that this is normal, a normal phrase that is used in everyday life, in books, television, movies, in news articles, for anyone who thinks that it's racist or xenophobic is living in an alternate reality consumed with nonsensual outrage. i don't know what you make of that response. whether you think people will buy it. but the idea that poisoning the

blood is a phrase that is normal, that most people say? it just doesn't pass a commonsense test. >> excuse me, i apologize to you and your audience, but i have to say that the spokes man's excuse was absolutely bullshit. really, it was -- it is lowdown and dirty. give me a break. you know, normal, everyday discourse? who talks about poison blood? who talks about that? who says that an immigrant is poisoning -- it is beyond. it really is beyond the beyond. it's not -- this is not appropriate discourse. this is not fair play. this is awful. just awful. >> i want to play for you what republican presidential candidate chris christie had to say about this earlier today. >> all that type of rhetoric, jake, is beneath the office that

he held and that he wishes to hold again. we need a president who shares our values. we need a president who is not going to speak that way. this projects our image all around the world. and it's an awful image to project. >> christie is really the exception here. >> he's absolutely right. >> my question to you is, what is going to change the pattern that we really see among republicans, which is that they just remain silent when these things happen? >> there's two things at play here. one is the, you know, the gutter mentality of the overwhelmingly leading candidate for the republican nomination. there's three things. the other thing is how many republicans are making themselves blind to the events leading up to january 6th? and then thirdly, you have a person who is saying things that is so divisive. violently divisive.

something that really cannot abide. where are we going with this? where are we headed? >> it is a good question. >> the problem is this. >> yeah? >> "the new york times" an hour ago reported that there were a million arrests on the southern border this year so far. that would make that crew, these migrants -- i don't fault them for trying to come. they're seeking the american dream. it would make them the fifth-largest city in america after new york, los angeles, chicago, and houston. then the fifth would be the 2 million undocumented illegal immigrants that have been arrested, not to mention how many are getaways. this is not a situation that we can sustain. the fact that president biden has reversed himself on building the border wall is stark

evidence of the fact that compassion is not policy. that president biden has failed to protect the southern border and americans can no longer denny it. the drone footage is unambiguous. the statistics undeniable. it is out of control. i am totally pro-immigrant. i've written two books of pro-hispanic immigration. i am confident that the american economy is vibrant enough to eventually absorb migrants. but it can't be the entire population of latin america. everybody in the world wants to live in america, abby, we know that. >> i understand, yeah, i understand certainly that this is, as we've covered on this show, a huge problem. but i want to ask you, just real quickly before you go, this rhetoric from trump -- the concern among people who actually worked for him previously is that if he gets a second term, not only will the rhetoric be more extreme, but the policies will be more

extreme. do they have good reason to believe that? >> yeah, words matter. i get flamboyant rhetoric. you know, i am accused of using it myself from time to time. but your very message is infected with the worst ghosts of american history. you know, where you're saying -- words count. at some point you have to believe that president trump means what he says when he says he's going to shoot shoplifters, shoot to kill shoplifters. you have to at some point believe. then you also have to wonder, what is it about that rhetoric that is so attractive, appealing, to trump supporters? it is something about -- >> yeah, i think that is the underlying question. the rhetoric is being spoken because he thinks it has an

audience. if you listen to that room among the california gop and some of the clips we played, they were absolutely into all of it. all of it. and i think fundamentally, that's what we're talking about here. geraldo, good to see you. thanks for joining us tonight. >> you do too, abby, thank you. up next, speaking of backlash, hillary clinton facing some of her own after the comments she made to comment about maga conservatives needing to be deprogrammed. daniel dale is here. he has a fact check on several false claims by president biden about the economy today. a fox debate between house speaker candidates suddenly blows up. we'll tell you why.

a fact check on president biden as he took a victory lap after the economy added 336,000 jobs, a huge number in september. during his speech, biden also bragged about cutting the federal debt, listen. >> i was able to cut the federal debt by $1.7 trillion over the first two years. remember what we were talking about. it was 50 corporations that made $40 billion, weren't paying a penny in taxes. guess what, we made them pay 30% -- 15% in taxes. 15%. nowhere near what they should pay. guess what? we're able to pay for everything, and we end up with an actual surplus. >> that's a lot of numbers.

but how much of it is actually true? i want to bring in cnn senior reporter daniel dale. what he just said there, how much of it actually lines up with the facts here? >> that was some rapid-fire wrongness from the president. i counted, in those brief comments, two false claims and one, i think we can generously call misleading. "i cut the federal debt by $1.7 trillion." president biden has not cut the debt. it has increased by more than $5 trillion since he took office. so what actually declined? that is the annual budget deficit. not the debt. did decline by $1.7 trillion. okay, he mixed it up. he's done this over and over and over again to the point the white house has started correcting the official transcript, crossing out debt, putting in deficit. he credited for this decline in the deficit in 2021 and 2022, he credited a new corporate 15% minimum tax on certain large profitable corporations. that did not take effect until

2023. so that could not possibly have been responsible for the deficit declining. why did the deficit decline? experts say it's overwhelmingly not because of anything president biden did but because of scheduled expiration of emergency pandemic spending from 2020. the third, genjgenerously calle misleading, we ended up with a surplus? president biden has not run a budget surplus. we've not had a budget surplus i since 2001. he's talking about the law that contains this corporate minimum tax is supposed to contribute by about $200 billion to reducing deficits over the next decades, but that's not how people use the word surplus. >> no, that is quite the explanation. >> yeah. two false, one maybe he meant something else we'll call misleading. nonetheless, a lot of wrongness. >> he talked about record unemployment. what did he say? >> so basically what he did was boast about det record lows for unemployment for various demographic groups. he did not explain that those

groups have no -- no longer have records. first listen to what he actually said. >> we've achieved a 70-year low in unemployment rate for women. record lows in unemployment for african american and hispanic okayen workers and people with disabilities. folks who have been left behind in previous recoveries, left behind for too long. >> left the impression that black, hispanic people, people with disabilities are currently at record lows for unemployment rate. that is not the case. i have the numbers. the september 2023 african american unemployment rate, 5.7%. pretty low by historical standards. the record low was 4.7% in april earlier in this term. but it was lower than it is now, it got to 5.3% during the trump administration. 5.7% is not a record. same for hispanic people. the current rate is 4.6%. record low under joe biden 3.9%.

it got lower than that, 4%, under president trump. there were records set, so at the least i think the president could be more precise that he's boasting about things that are no longer currently true. >> as point out, sometimes the ad libs -- on the paper it's accurate, but the president is saying things that are not true? >> yeah, i think this one, this creative use of old records, i think that was in his script. the first comments about heard where he boasted about reducing the debt, i'm pretty sure he ad libbed that and that was wronger than this one. >> daniel what would we do without you? thank you. last night on this show, you first saw the clip of christiane amanpour's interview with secretary of state hillary clinton in which clinton says maga extremists are going to need formal deprogramming. since then, it's been a whirlwind of reaction. >> sadly, so many of those extremists, those maga

extremists, take their marching orders from donald trump who has no credibility left by any measure. he's only in it for himself. he's now defending himself in civil actions and criminal actions. and when do they break with him? you know, because at some point, you know, maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members. >> i want to bring in brian fallon, former press secretary for hillary clinton's 2016 campaign, along with cnn political commentator alice stewart, republican strategist as well. alice, let me start with you. what was your reaction initially to hearing that? >> first off, i agree with a lot of what she said about donald trump. look, he's in this for himself, he appeals to the lower psyche of some people, he has skirted with breaking the law on many occasions, and he has very little credibility. she's right about much of that. and i get she's frustrated that she lost so him in 2016. but for her to go after his

supporters, more than 70 million americans in this country, who are patriotic americans who look to donald trump as someone who is going to fight for them and secure the border and work to limit government and help the economy -- to call them members of a cult who need to be deprogrammed? that's really petty. it's a petty thing to say. to go after his supporters is not right. and this is just 2.0 of what she said in 2016, saying that his supporters were part of a basket of deplorables. it's just not a smart move on her part. and it's inaccurate to say people that are looking to him for all the right reasons, to call them such names and say they need to be deprogrammed? where is this democrat version of when they go low, we go high? >> where is it, brian? >> well, the deplorables comment in 2016 was a hit for the trump campaign. i think they're trying to play the hits again -- >> you vividly recall that. >> oh, yeah, i remember exactly where i was when i got the call. i was at a concert with john

paul mary. it was an awful night i'll tell you about after. i don't think she was talking about supporters or voters, in this case. if you look at the full clip, christiane asked her, there is a possibility that hakeem jeffreys and the democrats could maybe forge a coalition-style government with moderate republicans in the republican caucus and find a consensus choice for speaker? she said, well, there are some sane members of the republican conference on capitol hill, but i think they're spooked and they're afraid of some of the lawmakers that are in league with donald trump. and we can't deny that that element does exist in the republican conference. they're the ones that brought us to brink of near default on the debt, almost to the brink of shutdown, they're the ones that drove kevin mccarthy out of office, they're the ones that up until two days ago before donald trump endorsed jim jordan were calling for donald trump to be the speaker. this element she's calling out exists on capitol hill, and i don't think her rhetoric in talking about those lawmakers is any different than what you'd hear from a chris christie, a mitt romney, an adam kinzinger.

>> when somebody like a ron desantis says that democrats suffer from a woke mind virus, i mean, is that language at this level? i mean, i guess i'm trying to just say -- not to excuse anything, but people seem to really are losing it over these comments from hillary clinton. but it's everywhere in our rhetoric. >> yeah, the tone and tenor of politics has really taken a dramatic turn. i'll acknowledge, donald trump is a big part of it. but the reality is, when you're saying that millions of americans are members of a cult and need to have their brains rewired because they support someone for, again, for all the right reasons, that's just not right. and it's certainly inappropriate. if she wants to attack donald trump because she looks at him, as she said in this interview, she does believe he will be the nominee for the republican party. go after him. don't go after people in middle america. look, i lived in arkansas for many years, in middle america. she knows what middle america

and flyover country is like. she could not have gotten out of there fast enough to move to new york and run for senate and live the life she lives. if she saw what people in flyover country, what their lives are like, why they support donald trump, she certainly wouldn't say that. >> what was the takeaway from deplorables for secretary clinton? >> i think the issue was people cast those comments as talking about a swath of the electorate, when i think she was trying to talk about a movement that is standing by donald trump despite everything he did. remember, trump himself in 2016 said, i can shoot somebody on fifth avenue and my supporters will still be with me. >> does she feel justified, does she feel vindicated in her description back then? i mean, is that kind what was we're seeing? >> i think it was a poor choice of words, obviously in 2016. that was a gift to the republicans, that she would take back if she could. but i think the larger phenomenon that she was making an observation about is undeniable. you led the show with a whole segment about the violent rhetoric from donald trump, about language that is borrowed

from "mein kampf." and your guest, geraldo rivera, pled with his supporters to please abandon him in the wake of this. we should just be honest about the fact that there is a 40% plurality of the republican party that seems to support him no matter what. and that's what's powering him in this republican primary. >> alice, we do have to go. when you see people like cassidy hutchinson emerge from trump world and she's almost like a different person, you have to ask the question, what's going on there? when people leave the trump orbit, they suddenly see the whole world in different eyes. i think maybe that is also part of what she's referring to there. you probably want to respond, but we have to get going. alice and brian, thank you both very much. interesting conversation. up next for us, one of the rear admirals who commanded the u.s. submarine fleet responds to the accusation that donald trump shared those secrets with a foreign billionaire. plus one part of chicago is

now livid as a youth football team's practice facility will apparently be used to house migrants. i'll speak to a member of that team next.

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tonight, there's more fallout over the report that former president trump shared nuclear secrets about american submarines with someone he admired, australian billionaire anthony pratt. cnn has confirmed that the mar-a-lago member has been questioned by the special counsel in connection with the classified documents probe. trump spoke publicly about his admiration for pratt while still in office in 2019. >> a lot of people don't tell you about anthony, bull i'll tell you about anthony. he is the most successful man in australia. he's a great man, and he's my friend, and i appreciate it. >> in a statement on truth social, trump calls the report false and ridiculous, other than the facts that i will often state that we make the best submarines and marine military equipment anywhere in the world. with that being said, i will always promote the greatness of america and its military equipment. the alternative would be for allies and others to buy from

russia, china, or elsewhere. joining me is retired navy rear admiral ken perry. he served as the captain of a nuclear missile submarine and commander of the navy's largest submarine group. admiral, just first off, i mean, sharing with an australian billionaire who joins his social club and gets promoted when the president is in office about allegedly the number of warheads on these submarines, details about where they're positioned? what was your reaction to that? >> well, my reaction was, u.s. submarine force is a strategic advantage for the country. we've got submarines that are deployed and on patrol tonight around the world. it's a strategic advantage for the country. we rely on the supremely well-built ships, the fantastic crews, to get where they need to go, to operate and do what they

need to do, and do that with the confidence that they're going to have the best equipment, the best ships, the best-trained crews. and they need to do that by relying on the stealth, the mobility, the power, and firepower of the subs. anything that compromises that kind of puts those submarines at risk. so i don't have any comments about any particular conversations that were had. i just want to say that we rely on the submarine force. >> do you think that disclosure of that information could put american soldiers and sailors at risk? >> yeah, it could. that's why we very carefully guard the operational details of what we do on submarines. the submarine force is very meticulous about that. the crews are supremely well trained. they guard the operational details, where we go, what we do when we're there. so yeah, we want to keep those details in very strict confidence. >> according to abc news, this australian billionaire, mr.

pratt, shared this information then after hearing it from trump with about 45 people. just a huge number. just putting yourself in that situation, if you had done that, what would have been the consequences? >> i didn't do that. and our force doesn't do that. so again, i'm not able to comment on any particular conversations or who might have divulged anything. what i can say is those details and classified material in general, but submarine operations in particular, are very carefully protected. and there's a good reason for that. >> how valuable is information about our submarine fleet to our adversaries? >> i expect it's very valuable. we have a strategic advantage with our submarine force. it remains the one area where we have a real advantage against the strategic competition. when we say china and russia, our ability to get where we need to go with our submarines --

whether those are independent attack submarines on deployment, forward deployment, or or are our ballistic missile submarines which are the primary deterrent force in our nuclear arsenal -- we rely on their capabilities and the terrific capabilities of the crews to get those missions done. >> absolutely. admiral ken perry, thank you so much. up next, new reporting on cnn. former president trump's role in the house speaker's race and how he wants the gavel-holder to be sufficiently loyal to him. plus anger from a youth football team in chicago over the city's plans to turn a practice facility into a migrant shelter.

as the u.s. house remains without a speaker of the house, new reporting tonight about donald trump's decision to endorse jim jordan for the job.

we're told he never seriously considered himself for the speakership and that what he really wanted was a loyalist in that spot. it comes ahead of next week's election as top candidates jordan and steve scalise make the rounds with their colleagues. but today, they decided to cancel a fox news forum that was scheduled for monday after widespread republican outcry. i want to bring in former south carolina republican congressman mark sanford. he's also a former governor of the state of south carolina. governor sanford, look. trump wanting a loyalist in the role, probably not a surprise to you. but given that he's had i think a historically pretty good relationship with steve scalise, does it surprise you that he chose jim jordan over scalise in this case? >> not really. because, you know, with trump, it's all about loyalty and there are different forms of loyalty. you can have, you know, a pleasant affiliation, which i think is what he had with

scalise. but, you know, jim jordan was his firebrand. i mean, jim jordan was head of the freedom caucus and was on direct phone line when trump was president wherein -- i mean, i was there on a speakerphone, they would begin to talk about, oh, we just had a conversation with president trump and he and mark meadows would be absolutely giddy about that. so i think that, you know, jordan is viewed as a supreme loyalist, and believe me, if there's anything that trump wants, he wants supreme loyalty. >> the other interesting thing that happened today is that jordan and scalise, they were supposed to show up at this forum on fox on monday night. until there was a lot of backlash. first of all, the idea of a forum is incredibly unusual for the speaker race. why do you think that they ultimately backed out of it? >> because it was a dumb idea. i mean, a really, really dumb one.

i mean, at the end of the day, you know -- i don't know the best analogy. you know, corporate board meeting, a family meeting with your kids? there are probably things that you're going to air out in the family, meeting around the kitchen table, that you don't really want to discuss with the neighbors. because, you know, you've got this teenage son that's acting up a bit, this teenage daughter who's a little bit out of line over here. you know, at the end of the day, you're a cohesive family. when you walk out of the house together, you're the jones family and there's no backing down. so i just think that the nature of the speaker's race is an entirely internal event. it is about the republican caucus, about the republican family as it relates to members of congress. and it's best to be ironing out those differences inside as opposed to, you know, talking about it, "well, i had to trade off these votes on ukraine." "i had to trade off these votes about killing off this particular measure or dealing with funding or no shutdown later on this fall." those are things that happen,

but they're probably not going to be aired in the public realm until you've decided, what are we doing, how are we doing it? >> it's a lot of dirty laundry to put out there. just turning to jim jordan for a second here, when you were in congress, house speaker -- then house speaker john boehner, he had to battle the right wing of his party, too. and at that time, boehner called jordan a legislative terrorist. so the idea now that jim jordan is in the running, a competitive running at that, for the speakership -- that's an interesting turn of events. >> well, not really. you know, i mean -- think about this. boehner, who became the ultimate figure of establishment, ultimately was a firebrand early on in his career. that seems to be the way that people ascend in d.c. they start as a firebrand, and mr. smith goes to washington, next thing you know they're cutting legislative deals left

and right as they climb through the ranks. i don't know that it's all that unusual. i would say that, you know, jim jordan's probably mellowed a bit from when he came in to where he is now -- >> you raise an interesting point -- >> i would have to -- >> you raise an interesting point. >> i think the trump endorsement hurt him. because at the end of the day, he already had the firebrand caucus. now, all of a sudden, you're making republican moderates in new york, 11 of them, nervous about, oh my goodness, i got to defend this in my district? that we have a speaker who's been endorsed by trump, who's not popular in my district? i think it complicates things for jordan, although that's probably not the prevailing view. i interrupted you, i'm sorry. >> no, i interrupted you. you made me wonder, as you said that, do you think jim jordan has the capacity to become a dealmaker, who could work with the other side, somebody who's not viewed as polarizing as he

has been in the past? >> well, perception is reality in politics. so how you're viewed is how you are in washington. all too many cases. certainly as it relates to a vote as close as the speakership vote is. so maybe, maybe not. i don't know. i do know that he's much more of a firebrand than scalise. i do know that scalise is much more conciliatory in terms of personal style, and that's probably going to be a consideration in this race given what we just went through with the gaetz fiasco and the gang of eight and how they sort of burned up the house on the republican side. >> yeah. all right. we will find out in a few days. actually, hopefully, if this doesn't take any longer than that. governor mark sanford, thank you so much. >> yes, ma'am. up next, chicago is struggling to handle a migrant surge. and now a youth football team is speaking out against city plans to convert a local fieldhouse into a shelter. plus, the foiled murder plot

against one of britain's most well-known tv personalities.

you. this disregards the issues of great neighborhood concern.

it takes away valuable resources and residents are protesting with some claiming that it threatens to leave the community's youth football league in the dark. cnn reached out to the mayor's office but has yet to receive a response. i do want to bring in gerald harris of the windy city dolphins youth football league. thank you for being here. what is your reaction to this plan to use the park facility to house migrants and how would it affect your team? >> i'd have to say anger. i feel disrespected. no one came and said they would take our community park away from us.

by dispersing those. we experienced some of those ourself but takes away from my children who we started a program 29 years ago and been able to get them to many high school, some of the most prominent high schools here in chicago and after that with our -- we have a mission of teaching accountability, discipline, teamwork. we want to reveal or teach character. that helps you to be a prominent adult and they're taking it away from us. >> there are, i think you believe, some alternatives here. why is it you think officials have not used those alternatives rather than doing what they seem to be determined to do right now with the field facility. >> i'm really confused.

we don't know why the mayor, the auld derman has not decided to. we have many vacant buildings and that hadn't been vacant that long. that means, the heating, plumbing, is available and i think it's real dangerous when you put some outsiders who come from out of the country with a community that doesn't speak the same language. i prayed some concern where there could be problems and they've taken away from our resources. my children are going to prominent schools, as i say, and then 60% of them go to college, division 1, 2 and 3 without paying or only paying 30%. now they're afraid, my parents are afraid that they don't know these people and for myself, i

understand what poverty comes and some crime. as a black american and having being somewhat oppressed over the years, we ourself create crime, so we understand where they're coming from. we would love for them to have a place but not in the community where 65% are seniors. we're a household community. 90% of the buildings are houses, so we are 65%, so they're afraid now. they can't walk across and around the track on the field. they're not going to be coming out their porch. the park district has for us right now seven different programs for seniors, those who didn't come out in the past who felt lonely, felt despair, now

they have friends on six different streets. >> gerald harris, we appreciate you sharing that with us and wish you the best of luck as this goes forward. thank you. >> thank you very much. up next, one of britain's top tv personalities is now the target of an alleged kidnap and murder plot and an arrest has now been made.

tonight a frightening headline out of london. reports say one of britain's most popular morning television personalities was the target of a kidnap and murder plot