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holly willbowie has been absent from her chair since yesterday morning reportedly taken off the air after being informed of the plot. now, british police say a man is under arrest and he's facing a series of charges now. and that's it for me and cnn primetime. cnn tonight with laura coates is starting right now. hey, laura. >> so good to see you. it's friday and let me tell you about what a week it's been, abby phillip. >> have a great show. >> thank you so much. good evening, everyone. i'm laura coates and, yes, we did make it to friday and we have all earned the weekend ahead because, man, it has been a week, hasn't it? remember what we've gone through in the past few day, the manufactured shutdown drama over the weekend when congress decided to kick the can down the road instead of maybe finishing the task at hand. then on monday day one of donald trump's quarter of a billion dollar fraud trial in new york city, yeah, i said billion with a "b," tuesday kevin mccarthy
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got voted out of the job that he risked everything to get. >> the office of speaker of the house of the united states house of representatives is hereby declared vacant. >> that was just tuesday, by the way, because by wednesday it was back to new york where donald trump defied the judge's gag order saying in front of cameras and blasting the new york attorney general and the very judge who will decide his fate in the case after, of course, a limited gag order was issued. then you have last night, the former president throwing his support behind trump acolyte jim jordan for the speaker of the house, the second in line to the presidency, remember. that after floating that he would take the job himself. >> i never wanted to do this job but someone has to who can bring the team together and communicate to the country. that's why i'm running. >> and there is a new reporting
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tonight from kaitlan collins about how and why he picked jordan to endorse. apparently it's because it would be someone loyal to him in the job. wait, there's more. tgif did not give you a reprieve from the whiplab, everyone. first, multiple sources saying the former speaker would step down before the end of his term then kevin mccarthy told reporters, noech, i don't know who told you that, i'm not doing it. >> you're not resigning? >> no. >> you'll stay? >> i'm staying so don't worry. >> if we thought this week was bad, wait until next week because this may have been a dress rehearsal for what is coming ahead. now, it's almost gotten to the point where if this were a series, it would have jumped the shark by now. it would be comical and would be funny if it were fiction, of course, but it's actually not fiction.
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it's real life. i mean, look at all the problems in real life we are facing. there's aid to ukraine, there's funding the united states government, not a minor detail, there's the immigration crisis, the epidemic of gun violence in this country, the climate crisis, and fasten your seat belts because we are no closer sitting here right now to finding the next speaker of the house, the gop conference isn't even going to meet until 6:00 p.m. on monday. they get the weekend off just like you do although maybe one set of us should be working. they have a forum on tuesday and a closed door meeting wednesday and the question is, will it be jim jordan who emerges or steve scalise or someone else we're not even thinking about on this friday evening and if it is jim jordan, what is his track record tell us about what he'd be like as speaker of the house and the leader? if he becomes the next speaker would his politic, his unique
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brand of politics redefine the republican party? i mean, this time next week think about it, we might have the answers to who will be holding the gavel and who will be left holding the bag. i want to bring in maria cardona, joe walsh, host of "the white flag podcast" and sher michael singleton. so -- >> so. >> i'm exhausted from just your rundown. >> that was what happened. it was supposed to be magnetic for you. let me tell you, this was a week to behold. history happens a lot around these part, we know. when we think about the news tonight that donald trump was never really running, never thought he would, the rules said he can't, he wanted a loyalist. >> of course. >> just in case. is that news to you? >> no, but what i do think is interesting we're seeing this interesting phenomenon between
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the more traditional establishment and the more populist nationalist infused base that donald trump represents and i would argue, laura, that you have speaker ryan who i know very well, worked for him, he is now gone, boehner left and now we have mccarthy gone. they were supposed to be the next generation to carry that establishment mantle and i would argue that is no more. this is all about the pop lichlg that you see from the base. that's going to chart the course for the next two to three election cycles. >> that picture just now, the connective tissue is a few said we don't want you and the majority said, let him stay or reconsider. that is the thread here. >> this is -- this is trump's party. it's -- look, i served with jim jordan. 's and a 10 or 11 years ago when we made life hell for john banker, we were the fringe.
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now, jim's about to become speaker because this is a maga party. jim jordan is mainstream republican, and it's scary for the country but this is a maga trump party now. >> that's the interesting part as a democrat because it might be enticing to sit back, eat some popcorn and say you might amongst yourselves. we'll look better in the end but as you know this has consequences overall and party and identity politics is so a part of our system. does this change the identity of the republican party if jordan were to become speaker? >> i agree with joe. i don't think it does, it's already changed. we know that donald trump is the leader of the party. we know that most in that conference genuflect at the alter of donald trump and that's exactly the problem. kevin mccarthy tried to become that, but wasn't credible enough on their end and then became not credibility with the moderates and the common sense leadership
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to be able to trust him. that's what happened with democrats not being able to come to the table and actually save him because he did not prove himself to be a partner that could be trust worththink. he lied to the president. he lied to democrats. he went into this deal with him back in may. went back on his word. told matt ambassador power -- matt gaetz what he wanted to hear. >> we heard from adam kinzinger who weighed on the issue of credibility. the word he used was true leader instead. listen. >> the thing you need to understand about jim jordan, he is a true believer but he truly believes that the democrats or the left is an enemy of america and he will do anything, even extra constitutionally to defeat them. that's his general belief. i would put him in the camp of christian nationalists where he
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believes he's fighting dark forces and the skorns in some cases is an impediment to him being able to fight those forces. >> that's a really fascinating statement. how do you see it? >> it's true. i joe jim well. he believes the democrats are evil. he's told me that. but, again, this is where this republican party is. it's scary for the country, but donald trump is an election denier and tried to overturn ang american election. who was trump's most loyal assistant in congress trying to do that? jim jordan trying to overthrow the election. it makes perfect sense. it's scary for us but it makes sense. >> is his perception of this idea that those on the ideological right precede those on the left being a threat to their existence only on the right? i would argue against that and make the case there are some on the left who view those on the right as being extreme and
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fringe and a threat to their existence so i don't think only conservatives or republicans are trying to deal with and i want to defend speaker mccarthy here. he did the best he could to try to maintain a very divided house for as long as possible and i think the question for if it is going to be jim jordan as speaker what does this populism look like legislatively laura. what is that agenda? is it about border security or the budget or about some other things that a third of the country may not necessarily agree with and i think that time is yet to be told. >> i think that's exactly the issue, shermichael. a lot say, laura, i think you were getting to this, are democrats going to regret not coming to the aid of mccarthy because we're going to get somebody worse? we all knew we would most likely get somebody worse, because most of the people who could win as speaker were going to have to be a lot more extreme than mccarthy and we're seeing it now with jim jordan.
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the issue, though, is that if they do embark on a pathway to try to implement an agenda that is far out of the mainstream of the majority of the country, that is going to give democrats yet another opportunity to demonstrate why it is that republicans don't deserve the majority, why it is that americans cannot trust them to actually solve, govern and lead because democrats will demonstrate that they have tried to work with them across the aisle, negotiate in a bipartisan manner which in a divided country is the only way to get things done and say, look, they don't want to do it. >> in a weird way it doesn't matter who the next speaker is because the republicans have already demonstrated this first year that it's chaos, they're incompetent. they're already -- an impeachment inquiry over nothing so they are already on that track. if it's mchenry, scalise, it won't matter. >> you know what i wonder --
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>> it doesn't really matter who the speaker is? >> i think it marys but curious to see, we haven't talked about the moderates. there are quite a few moderates and i wonder, we saw with gaetz and seven others were able to do. what if the moderates say we don't want a jim jordan but want to go in a different direction and wonder if they can coalesce that influence and power and put them at risk in 2024. >> it's not enough of them, right? >> who is the person they put forth? >> speaker pro-temp because he was close to mccarthy. >> mchenry. >> does he want the job? >> there are 18, right, members of -- districts. >> of the republican conference would won in biden districts. i don't think that's enough but remember we talk about gaetz and the eight that took mccarthy out, but there are 139 members of congress in the republican conference that vioted not to certify the election. that's extreme. that's not one, two, three,
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eight but 139 members. >> i could be dead wrong but i don't think there will be a huge fight next week. this last week was a political disaster for republicans. these moderates know that. they want to have this thing sewed up before -- they don't want a repeat -- >> private vote beforehand. >> they'll line it up. >> a meeting -- >> still hanging around to have influence over the process as he stated earlier today. >> hold on. do we believe -- >> just saying. >> hold on, let's have a crystal ball. do we believe that kevin mccarthy will remain in office following losing the -- >> no, i think the former speaker will do what's in the interest of the party. >> oh. >> political interest. >> let me just turn and give full side-eye to you shermichael. it's friday. we've had a week. maria, joe, shermichael, thanks. notice the side-eye. do you know, do you know what the alleged murderer of tupac
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♪ elementary, i see the penitentiary ♪ ♪ running from the police ♪ ♪ mama gave me a whooping to the backside ♪ ♪ momma, you always was a black scene ♪ for 27 years, longer than he was alive we have wondered who killed tupac shakur. it was september 7th, 1996, he was leaving a boxing match on the vegas strip when he was shot four times in the passenger seat of a black bmw. since then there have been countless conspiracy theories and speculation about who did it
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and why they did it. this week there has been a break in the case and duane davis was arrested and now stands accused of that murder. now tonight, we have new body cam footage of his arrest. he tells the officers who put him in handcuffs he's being arrested in, quote, the biggest case in las vegas history. listen. >> so what they got you for, man? >> biggest case in las vegas history. >> oh, yeah? >> yeah. >> quite recent? >> uh-huh. september of 1996. >> oh, no [ bleep ]. wow. that's a long time -- that's a long time away. >> i ain't worried.
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>> well, i mean, that's what court is for. >> yeah. >> september 7th, 1996. what he is calling the biggest case in las vegas history may have gotten even bigger. why? biggie smalls, one detective testified in a grand jury that detectives had a theory that tupac's case may, in fact, be related to the killing of notorious b.i.g., a man murdered in l.a. just six months after tupac. now, people speculated go that connection for decades. and the real question is are we closer to learning the truth tonight? and the answer to who cut short the life of one of hip-hop's most legendary trail blazers and artists, i'll dive in with cnn legal analyst joey jackson, along with tre' johnson who writes on race, culture, and politics. i'm so glad to have both of you here. this is very significant.
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the developments we've seen all of a sudden this week, the new body cam footage as well, i'll start with you, joey, because there is some reporting tonight that a detective who is on this case, who testified before the grand jury in september said that they had a theory that tupac's murder and the murder of rapper and artist biggie smalls may have, in fact, been related. what do you think about that? >> yeah, laura, good to be with you so it remains to be seen, right? what we all know certainly there is an indictment as it relates to tupac's murder and the police believe based upon a long-standing investigation that they have the person who is responsible, so at least as to that, right, an indictment, of course, by a grand jury in las vegas, nevada, of course, what ends up happening you have 0 grand jurors, 12 must concur there is reasonable cause to believe a crime was committed, in this case the murder of tupac and that the defendant, mr. davis, committed it. it's not at all a conviction.
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but it's significant. they believe they also have means, motive and opportunity. what are we talking about? in terms of the motive we'll start there. we know it relates to m mr. anderson and him being attacked right after the tyson fight in the hotel and as a result of that motivation, the motivation was retaliation and payback. the means is the actual weapon, of course, used in that particular case to kill tupac and the opportunity was at the traffic light so in answer to your question certainly they think law enforcement does that there's a connection and that he's guilty, mr. davis, of the conspiracy to kill tupac. we just don't know yet as it relates to notorious b.i.g. >> not knowing all of this even though it's taken this long to arrest an individual, there are questions about whether or not he is accused of actually pulling the trigger. trey, i want to turn to you. davis isn't accused of pulling the trigger, right?
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he's what they're calling the, the shot caller. you say he's used it as kind of a dark bragging point. what do you think about whether he should be held responsible for this murder? >> yeah, it's great to be on with both of you tonight and thanks for having me on to talk about this. obviously huge in hip top and american history. i think for me one of the things i think about is just my good friend sharonda sent me an "l.a. times" piece giving me greater kong tex. when you think about davis, his roots in compton particularly his gang affiliation. in the aftermath of the shooting involving tupac where he died, you know, there were what was called ten days of hell in the compton area where over the course of those ten days an additional three people and ten others were wounded in the aftermath of the gang warfare that erupted as a result and davis is someone who is
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implicated in the connection around the compton gang affiliation back home and just the way that he has spurred a lot of activity around this. he has now a longer and wider legacy that doesn't just implicate himself in tupac's death but all the trauma and carnage left behind in the wake of what has happened because of the like long-standing history that got quieted as a result of the death of tupac and biggie which is like the gang insinuation inside of hip-hop music and record label,'s so all this is greatly knotted together and i think for davis, you know, i think he was feeling perhaps some level of invincibility around constantly skirting -- he had gone away to prison but i think this is still feeling like some odd feather in his cap but it is overriding the large amounts of carnage it's left behind, because of all in that he's involved in too. >> you know, that's fascinating to think about all of the collateral damage and the consequences surrounding even
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the allegations against this individual and they are allegations. joey, back in 2009 davis apparently struck a deal with investigators to tell them what he knew, in exchange statements he made could not then be used against him in court. so-called proffer agreement. will that agreement lead to some problems for prosecutors now that he has been arrested? >> so, i'm not sure that it will lead to problems for prosecutors. it may very well lead to problems with the defense. let me tell you why. a proffer agreement so everyone knows is when the government says, hey, come on in and talk to me and nothing you say i'll use against you. don't worry about it. they do that, laura, as we know so you can be candid and tell alt. why does it lead to problems for the defense? it's not all cracked up to be. those statements can in fact be used against you. let's say he testifies in this case and said he had nothing to do with it but in the proffer agreement he was very candid knowing he would not be prosecuted.
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guess what you can do, what excellent prosecutors like you used to do and that's, so, you testified but you spoke to prosecutor, right, and you were candid in that discussion and you indicated in that discussion what your involvement is but today on the stand you say something different. you could confront them with those statements, and so therefore they can't be used to proffer to prosecute you per se it can be used to confront you should you wiggle out of it. i think it's a palable tool. >> the only time i've ever given the defense attorney the last word because it's joey. trey, thank you so much. >> you are kind. coming up, cnn's presentation of hbo's overtime with bill maher.
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let's turn it over to our friends at hbo. after "real time" with bill maher they answer questions about the national conversation and excited to bring you this lively discussion first every friday night. here is "overtime with bill maher." [ cheers and applause ] we've missed you these last five months. great to be back. i'm here with matt welch and sar sara isguh. which of the trump indictments do you think is the strongest? >> really easy question, the florida case about the classified documents and obstruction. you'll know trump and his allies never talk about it.
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they're all much weaker -- >> this is the one where he took classified documents and put them by the toilet? >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> why is that such a strong case? >> it's after he's president. there's just no real legal defense to, you know, even if you're really conte pated needing those documents by your toilet. [ laughter and applause ] >> i know what they're going to say which is biden did the same thing, he had papers by his corvette. >> he didn't defy a subpoena and lie about it. >> i know that. >> charged with the documents or having them. charged with not giving them back. knock, knock, can we have our documents back? what documents? >> he's stupid and crazy. [ applause ] they're stupid like i think frederick douglass is still alive. [ laughter ]
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the stealth bomber is literally invisible. health care is not complicated. those are stupid. crazy is this. it's just crazy. it's just a crazy, unforced error. why do it? he wasn't even looking at them. it just was they're mine. [ laughter ] that's -- >> and then when they came and asked about them and he said no and tried to move the documents then he realized it was on camera then he said to flood the server. it was like every step. >> okay. nikki haley rose in the polls this week. oh, good for you. [ laughter ] >> 9% to 10%, nailing it. >> is that what it is? are there enough establishment voters in the republican party for her to become a serious revival to trump? revival? rival. oh, okay. well -- [ laughter ] we're doing this on the fly, you
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know. rival to trump. yes. >> oh, hell no. [ laughter ] there was an interesting poll and recommend people look at it at fair vote who do rank choice voting and had a poll that basically did ranked choice with the candidate, national poll and so each time around you kick someone offer the island then see how it goes until you get to only two left. and donald trump got like 47% or something in the first vote. first round then doug berg rum and mike pence goes -- he doesn't even go up a little bit. 47% of republicans really want donald trump to be the president and he was also number 13 by the most people like he was last place. please, anybody but donald trump. he only like gets over the majority when everybody else is wiped out. nikki haley does well in that and comes in second once you knock off chris christie and some of these people. she has the ability maybe to
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look -- to get some people who want to vote for trump but the only way to get to the republican nomination is -- this is why ron desantis still has a chance although he's absolutely nosedived during the calendar year, people who like ron desantis also like donald trump sometimes. he can straddle that. nikki haley hasn't quite shown that and the rest -- >> she's been across the board. the rumor was they were having an affair. remember that? it was in the first trump book -- remember that? no, i never believed it either but gone from that to i wouldn't even have her on the ticket. >> i worked for carly fiorina. you can't have this many candidates in the field. that poll showed in the end ron desantis could beat donald trump by three points if it were only the two of them in the race. >> right. well, okay. so was anyone surprised that donald trump -- boy -- >> no. [ laughter ]
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>> wait a second. leaked intel -- oh, i read this -- on our nuclear submarine program to an australian businessman? you know what, i'm the last guy to defend trump. this sounds like b.s. to me. he -- of course, he does a million things you shouldn't do but leaked intel on our nuclear submarine program. i doubt he knows the first thing. [ laughter ] you know, i don't think he gave away technical information. i'm glad it gets around the world that we can kick your ass. >> this is the problem where you think he's evil and stupid. it's one or the other -- >> crazy a stupid. >> not yours. others. you can't believe he is the super genius who nows everything about our submarine subs but also is a moron. it can't be both.
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>> right. okay. all right. what is the -- [ laughter ] what is the panel think of california governor newsom repealing the law that banned doctors from sharing unapproved covid information? well, of course, i love it. they should have never done it in the first place. doctors should be able to speak fr freely. the media should be the watchdog of what's going on in the government, not the megaphone, not the amplifier. >> i can't believe you brought this up. i'm obsessed with the idea that newsom and desantis are actually different sides of the same coin when it comes to civil liberties like free speech. newsom is banning doctors about saying something about covid that he personally doesn't believe. >> now he's not. >> corden joined him first, okay, so at the same time desantis down in florida is telling teachers they can't certain things at universities. how about just the first
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amendment. i'm pro that. [ applause ] >> i also will say that gavin newsom wanting to run for president is the best thing that could happen to californians because he'll make a better governor that way. >> i think he's a great politician. i've been trying to get him to rung for president for 15 years. it would force him to go to the zijde ter like this kind of stuff. >> and the supreme court right now wants to have a different homeless policy like he's moving to the center on all sorts of stuff. >> he can win. it doesn't hurt to have a dreamy candidate. i'm not -- [ applause ] it really doesn't. i'm sorry. >> i don't know. that photo wears me out. >> the what? what photo? >> the photo with him and kimberly guilfoyle where he's on the bearskin rug. not my type. what can i say? >> all right. should the senate have loosened the dress code to allow for john fetterman's shorts and casual
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attire? no. [ applause ] i mean, that was not ridiculous. i mean, again, what is this with john fetterman? come on, man. if you haven't seen it, he looks like kevin smith. [ laughter ] remember kevin smith -- the hockey shirt, shorts in the senate. i mean, what is it? what point is this makeing? what is the point of this? >> i never got it. >> i'm so torn between my hatred of rules and institutions and my hatred of ink appropriate or people who dress like me on weekends being in the senate. that's bad. we don't want people who look like that. >> it was such a stunt. oh, i'm a man of the people. you know what the people actually have to do. dress. >> for work. dress for work. >> all right. >> this is some of that luxury good stuff. this idea you're a man of the people. he comes from an incredibly privileged background. he's never been faced with being fired for not wear something
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right to work and that's what you get. >> the people who are always going on about privilege always have the privilege to be impractical in every possible way but we got to go. thank you, cnn. we'll see you next week. [ applause ] >> well, you can watch "real time with bill maher" friday nights and watch "overtime" on cnn friday nights at 11:30. well, like it or not taylor swift is bringing a whole lot of new attention to football. but is all the distraction -- is it all a distraction from the big issues the nfl is facing? two-time super bowl champion malcolm jenkins has ideas on all those issues and i'll talk to him next.
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well, the nfl is quite the big topic of discussion, at least in recent weeks. you know you have taylor swift bringing a whole surge of attention. she appeared at this week's sunday night football game between the chiefs and new york jets to cheer on chiefs player and rumored relationship person who knows what it really is, travis kelce. there were record ratings for the game with 27 million viewers tuning in. that makes it the most watched sunday game since the super bowl back in february. but for the perhaps truest of football fans and those who have been watching for very different reasons, the big question, is that detracting from all the big issues facing the nfl like political protests and the intersection of race? i've got the perfect guest to
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talk about all of that tonight, joining me now two-time nfl super bowl champion malcolm jenkins, also the author of the brand-new book "what winners won't tell you: lessons from a legendary defender" hitting shelves this week. malcolm, so excited to talk to you. congratulations on the brand-new book. >> thank you. >> everyone cannot kuwait to read it. >> yeah, i'm excited. i definitely, you know, i wrote it myself from cover to cover, so i really wanted to contextualize what i experienced in my 13 years in the nfl kind of tying those knots between, you know, the man you guys see today and all of the moments throughout my life that, you know, made me into who i am, both the pitfalls and successes, but it's a really fresh look at all these things we've seen so publicly unveil some of my own struggles with family and finances, but also how i navigated those spaces with mental health challenges and
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everything. >> you are very open about the ebbs and flows of success and what this whole thing takes to actually be who you are. but also what is happening behind the scenes and i think that's probably part of the most poignant as pektds of this incredible new book, malcolm and one part people have honed in on recent years for the nfl and their interest has been about the intersection of race and the sport and, in fact, colin kaepernick is but one example and you began an advocacy organization within the nfl at one point and mentioned capitol hill -- kaepernick in your book. i was inspired by the momentum created by his stance. this type of groundswell of coverage and eyeballs hadn't really been seen before and we had an opportunity in our hands to grasp it if we could organize. i just hadn't anticipated that organizing would be so damn difficult and, of course, kaepernick is not the only issue
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that the nfl is dealing with, it's facing a discrimination lawsuit from brian flores, another former nfl network reporter, jim trotter. when you look at and contextualize this, does the nfl have a race problem, and can they fix it? >> yeah, i think, you know, america has a race problem, therefore, every, you know, entity and structure within it usually is going to reflect that and the nfl is no exception to that. you know, i think, you know, over the last, since, what, 2016 this has been a hot topic whether on-field protests or the amount of head coaches and gms, presidents that are african american or any diverse background and there's definitely very little, you know, diversity in the ownership group but i do think we've seen, you know, them move their stance quite a bit since those, you know, days in 2016. obviously with much more branding, much more, you know, open to players and societal issues, but i still think
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there's a lot of things that can improved on. the coaching, there are more black coaches than probably we've ever seen with more black quarterbacks starting than we've ever seen but i do think that there are constantly these issues that are still kind of lingering and that's because of the ownership, right? at the top of the nfl there's very little diversity, so until you start to see some of those changes, there's always going to be, you know, these issues that are going to be pointed out. >> you write about what that feels like on the field, off and on about that impact, that leverage, that power dynamic, the sentiment. speaking of quarterbacks well know that kaepernick wrote a letter to the jets offering his service after aaron rodgers got knocked out for the season. do you think he should get a chance to play? >> i mean, should is and will is two things. we know in my opinion that he was blackballed and pushed out of his career prematurely
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because of his stance and so for that you would love to see him have an opportunity but here we stand seven years, you know, removed from that moment and if this were not kaepernick, any athlete that was out of their career for seven years i would probably tell to hang it up, right? that's just a long period of time so realistically speaking i don't think we'll ever seen him put on a uniform again which is unfortunate because of what he sacrificed his career for but obviously we all hope for the best. >> stranger things have happened as you know and in this ball, you talk about because you know what it takes to be successful in the sport that's as mentally and physically taxing as football and you are just as successful off the field, i might mention, and you're very humble in your approach to discussing it but go into great detail about life outside of football and what the game has inspired and what you've taken away. what do you want readers to take away from your book? >> well, i want readers to understand that, you know, life
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in and of itself is a game, a journey. most of us like to wait until we see the finished product until we get the victory to celebrate to enjoy things or feel like, you know, we've accomplished something. but people who are really successful and consistently successful understand that the joy of life and the process of the game is in the act of playing. in the act of actively living out, you know, your life day in and day out. that means you'll take the good with the bad and learn from the wins and losses and continue to push forward. >> truth is so powerful and i'm glad you're telling it. malcolm jenkins, thank you. "what winners won't tell you" is the name of the book. we'll be right back.
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before we leave you tonight, i want to take a moment to applaud the incredible incomparable simone biles. today she won the women's individual all-around gold medal at the world artistic gymnastics champions for her sixth time in her career. she is now the winningest gymnast, male or female, in the sport's history. that comes two years after she pulled out of several events at the tokyo olympics suffering from what's known as the twisties, a mental block causing a gymnast to lose track of their positions in midair. well, look at her now. watching everyone, thank you for watching. our coverage continues.
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