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conflict? >> the risk is very high which is why i think you are seeing antony blinken and israel, u.s. warships off the coast of israel not far from lebanon, the secretary of defense coming to israel as well. antony blinken going on a tour of the region to qatar and saudi arabia, united arab emirates and egypt. interestingly, the next step of what this will look like is not being decided in this capitals, it is decided in gaza or potentially in syria and tehran and because of the hezbollah presence in lebanon as well. the iranian foreign minister just arrived in beirut for a visit and he was meant to go to damascus. the israelis bombarded the damascus airport and put it out of commission for he could not land there. he advanced his trip to beirut. he was supposed to come tomorrow but has arrived. he was welcomed at the airport
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by representatives of hamas and islamic which are in operation here. he did not sound conciliatory. crossfire at the border between lebanon and israel, iranians not conciliatory but at the same time very interesting to see the iranian supreme leader saying that iran had nothing to do with the planning of this attack. everyone is taking pause and looking at what is coming next. very much uncharted territory. >> kim ghattas , thank you so much for joining us. thanks for watching. live from israel starts right now. out front next life from israel, troops massing and no word of the hostages tonight. israel's prime minister making the case for spitting hamas out like i.s.i.s. showing unspeakable pictures of
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a baby and children's letter. russians fight militants hand- in-hand with the pistol pete retired israeli general tells us what he witnessed and you will hear is incredible story of taking on the attackers. rockets said to be fired by hamas, footage from a videogame . israeli jets bombing gaza, video from fireworks in algeria . we fact checked the viral videos masquerading as facts. let's go out front. good evening and welcome to special edition of out front, i'm erin burnett live in tel aviv. we begin with breaking news, ready to invade, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu unleashing large- scale strike on gaza even over the past 90 minutes, we have heard more than 15, 16 explosions. at this hour, we are told 360,000 israeli reservists called up and are at or heading
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to the gaza border. we can see the influx today. netanyahu making his case for retaliation to the world, meantime releasing horrific new images of children, of a baby. cnn decided only to show one of these images. we are only doing one because they are horrific. we want to warn you it is very graphic and we do believe it is important you choose to take a look at it is that you do and see what took place inside israel up and down the gaza border seven days ago. this one image we will show you is a tiny body with bullet holes readily the onesie. the other photos, i can tell you also show tiny mangled bodies and one is completely charred. they are horrific and it is why netanyahu is going after hamas with fury. >> hamas is i.s.i.s. and just as i.s.i.s. was crushed, so too will hamas
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be crushed. hamas should be treated exactly the way i.s.i.s. was treated. they should be spit out from the community of nations. >> the words, spit out, you could feel probable rage from him. netanyahu speaking after meeting with u.s. eckerd estate antony blinken in tel aviv earlier today. standing side-by-side with netanyahu, antony blinken urged caution as israel prepares what is a ground invasion on gaza. >> the prime minister and i discussed how israel does this matters. democracies must distinguish ourselves from terrorist prescribing for different standard, even when it is difficult. holding ourselves to account when we fall short. our humanity, the value we place on human life and human dignity is what makes us who we are.
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>> blinken urging israel to avoid harming civilians after the death toll in gaza is rising over 1500, according to the palestinian ministry of health. the grim reality besides any numbers right now is that life for the people of gaza, all 2 million, will get much worse. today along the gaza border, we saw groups of idf troops moving into what is essentially become a buffer zone. the idf continuing to move in heavy equipment, we saw that, troops, tanks we were stopped and told what the idf says was a serious incident just ahead. it was in small town and we could hear israeli artillery firing on gaza as we waited continually.
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>> artillery finding -- firing across the desert terrain pick a few miles away from the festival where 260 young people were slaughtered by hamas. we met a survivor at a checkpoint. she and her brother were there and bringing food to idf special forces counterterrorism unit. she is 21 years old and working as a bartender at the music festival. some of her friends did not survive. she is now in the reserves. you are ready to go. >> i wanted to go. i'm here. >> you will hear more of her story later. this massive outpouring of support from her and her father coming up with all of this home- cooked food is crucial for israel in this war and gives you a sense of what the undertaking is. roni and her father bringing food a few miles away . we
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passed a massive with you at a gas station so we pulled up to see what was going on. it was full of soldiers because the reality of it is, when you think about what is happening here, calling up hundreds of thousands of reservists to fight suddenly means the entire country has to support the logistics and that is what we are seeing on the ground. we have a team of reporters standing by. nic robertson is out front live along the gaza border and matthew chance is here with me in tel aviv i want to begin with you, nick. you heard some big explosions, what is the latest from where you are? >> reporter: earlier this evening it was quiet here, we were not hearing gaza. the past hour or so, it has picked up a lot. the detonations that sound as if they are missiles fired from the jet fighters because you can hear the jets going
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overhead. the reverberations are literally shaking the front of this building. the impact two miles away to your point earlier that really gives you an idea of the scale of the impact and the effect it will have on the population of gaza. these impacts keep coming. you can see the flashes over my shoulder, listen. listen to this. you can see the flashes over my shoulder and you get the reverberating explosions, that when a little more distant from some of the others. to your point is well that there are all of these volunteers helping bring supplies to the israeli forces as they begin to move forward and set up that stronger buffer zone as you called it, a new
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front line if you will. as well as missile impacts we are hearing here. we were down by one of the artillery units you were talking about firing shells and the gaza. >> reporter: israel's newly emerging front-line and the war with hamas, heavy howitzers again firing on the terror group a few miles away in gaza. part of israel's massive military buildup since the hamas attacks on saturday. many of the 300,000 reservists called up already deployed ahead of highly anticipated ground offensive into gaza. these are exactly the same gun positions israeli defense forces used in the last major confrontation when the hamas in 2021. the question now, will this
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confrontation be different, will israel actually be able to crush hamas? as the prime minister says that he wants to. military essences, before and won't be easy now, the palestinian death toll unintended consequence. israeli shelling missile strikes is climbing. thursday, the u.s. cautioning care. >> the prime minister and i discussed how israel does this matters. we democracies distinguish ourselves from terrorist by scribing for different standard, even when it is difficult. >> reporter: and it will be difficult. israel is still reeling from the deadliest most architect on its citizens since the state was founded. anger at hamas is high, so is pressure on the prime minister to act decisively. his calling for more international support as he
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plans his offensive. >> hamas should be treated exactly the way i.s.i.s. was treated. they should be spit out from the community of nations. no leader should meet them, no country should harbor them. and those that do should be sanctioned. >> reporter: in the meantime, hamas is still getting into israel. this gunbattle happened late wednesday. >> there were multiple incursions by hamas terrorists yesterday. i drove through the road during the time three terrorist were out again looking for civilians to kill. >> reporter: the tempo of fire far higher than 2021. drumbeat that seems to signal ground offensive, all but inevitable. even so, it's outcome far from certain. are these impacts that we are hearing right now, are they softening for upcoming
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offensive in the next couple days or is it something this type of fire pyro -- power will be used longer. of time, week or two weeks perhaps before and of troops are in place for whatever moves prime minister netanyahu wants to take. it is not clear but the impact must have physical effect in gaza at the moment but psychological effect. the reverberations here are huge. >> nic, thank you. nic mentioned palestinian death toll is coming tonight and impossible to get numbers you know are real and what is happening. it is closed off but the red cross is morning gaza's hospitals risk turning into morgues, to use their exact words. the entire territory is running out of fuel. u.n. says that food and water supplies are running low as well. that will continue because when we say it is getting worse, it is israel will not allow food
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or fuel into gaza until the 150 hostages are returned. there is no word of them tonight except that they are in gaza. they are likely underground, scattered locations uncertainty about their fate causing israeli forces to pause full on assault but not the strike that you hear happening where nic is this evening we have heard more than a dozen coming from gaza from where we are in tel aviv, i counted 1617 and lost count to be honest. gaza is one of the most densely packed places on earth what we hear is life or death for someone a few miles away gaza has nearly 2 million people living in 88 square mile piece of land. matthew chance is here tonight. it is a place you know incredibly well and have covered this many years from various places. when you're looking here now this massing along the border we have never seen that before, gaza closed with no one able to go in or out, no aid, how bad
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could it get? >> reporter: it could get pretty bad, it is already bad inside gaza, districts of that populated city have been laid to waste, turned into rubble, the pictures were getting from inside gaza and the testament we are getting from inside gaza is horrifying. it is one of the most densely populated areas in the world. the forces being mobilized on the border gaza, 360,000 israeli troops, twice as many as russia has as when russia had going into ukraine, a country many times bigger then gaza. it gives you the idea of the scale of the operation israel is anticipating. it is going to be dramatically life-changing for the people on the ground in gaza. depending on the reaction of countries in the region, it
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could change the face geopolitically of the entire region. >> what is your view of where this does go? when you think about twice the number, more than twice the number of the russian troops amassed on the ukraine border, on the border of just miles, the amount of force ready to go in. >> reporter: we will see, won't we? we thought antony blinken, u.s. secretary of state glaring at benjamin netanyahu saying that this is, how this is conducted defines democracies. essentially, to paraphrase it depending on what israel does depends on what the countries in the region react like. obviously, israel is full of not just horror but rage and anger and the front of that is being felt on the streets of gaza, right now, which are
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being leveled as we stand here in tel aviv. >> matthew chance, thank you very much joining me is the spokesperson for the israeli defense forces. major, i appreciate your time. when you hear us talking about the situation in gaza and you look at your troop readiness along the border and we see more and more material moving in throughout the day, how far along is israel? as you see it tonight, in your goal to take out hamas. >> our forces around gaza and operating against gaza have one mission and that mission is to wage war on hamas. that is the mission we have been given and carried out anyway we need to. at the same time, hamas' war is a work in civilians. starting with this massacre of women and children, entire families, almost entire communities wiped out, abducted, scores of israelis and americans and
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others in gaza and firing weapons indiscriminately into civilian population centers. it is clear this is something we have to stop and what our forces are going to do. >> multiple incursions by hamas terrorists on israeli land even over the last couple days, today we were stopped at a checkpoint near what we were told was one of them. at this time, do you think there are cells of terrorists inside israel? >> that is what our forces are doing in the south as well. they are going through all the areas where hamas terrorists invaded, 20 towns and cities, they invaded hundreds of terrorists and making sure there will be no presence of hamas terrorists left. at the same time we experience attends of continued attacks from the sea as well and our forces are down there repelling those as well. >> one crucial thing prime
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minister netanyahu said today was that i.s.i.s. is hamas, that is what hamas has become. today, the idf released a photo of i.s.i.s. flag you say was found with hamas attackers. do you believe the two terror groups, hamas and i.s.i.s. are integrated at this point? are they sharing leadership? is there a link between the two? >> i think it would be splitting hairs. we don't need to talk about that, we can see the acts that they are doing pick both groups, the aim is to kill as many civilians as possible, both groups they want to sell as much terror as possible. hamas has been controlling gaza almost 20 years, supporting the population, building their territory and all they do is terror. we saw your report in
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israel feeling the reverberations of the attack in gaza. it emphasizes how close to home it is for us. this is not millions of miles away, these are our neighbors, it is our backyard. we cannot have ices in the backyard with hamas and its capabilities in our backyard. our mission is to stop that. >> thank you for your time tonight. appreciate it. you son of bike ride when hamas attacked within minutes, retired general drove to where the attackers were only with a pistol and began to fight. you can see our crew with the general, the air raid sirens blared. israel's prime minister saying hamas is the same as i.s.i.s. so is it? we have a special report on and what you see here, this is a video that claims to show hamas fighter showing down israeli helicopter . only this is a fake, it is from a video game but quickly
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spreading online and igniting tensions. we will be back.
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star tension at the border of israel and gaza is palpable tonight. where nick robinson is you can hear the explosions from tel aviv. we are learning tonight about the incredible bravery of retired israeli general who headed straight into the kibbutz a few miles from gaza as it was under attack saturday
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morning. along the way, the general, armed only with a pistol, encountered israeli soldiers outmanned and outgunned. i spoke with him and he was deeply emotional telling me about the horrors that he witnessed. general, that morning, saturday morning you, was this the gun, what gun did you have? >> this is new. the gun that i had was a little bit more simple . it was this one. >> that was your pistol. you were about to go for a bike ride. take your pistol with you? >> correct. no, i live next to, hour and a half from here, i was liking my bike at 6:00 like every saturday and i thought it might be some rockets or something simple but we already know.
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then i had a call something serious and heavy is happening so i took that, the uniform waiting for such occasion in the cabinet, and took my gun and went to gaza to engage, to lead the forces. >> then what did you do? >> we had very few forces, very few units so engaged with the units. we went from place to place to see what is going on. on the way, there were a lot of engagements, huge amount with the hamas, yes. a lot of close contact engagements. i was with the soldiers, shooting with them when a soldier was injured next to me, i took his gun and shot. we focused from place to place all day long and at night, into the evening, saturday night
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more units came so i had to engage them into the situation and manage with the battle with some of the kibbutz. >> general, what did you see them doing at the kibbutz? >> it is terrible. my whole military career, i have not seen such terrible things of killing, i saw women holding their children and shot by holding them. people were hiding under furniture and got murdered. so few people, the heads were chopped, the children. >> sorry. it was terrible, terrible, terrible. we failed, we failed to protect them area i feel ashamed. the first line of israel and we failed. we failed to defend them.
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it is personal humiliation. >> general, it is hard for anyone to hear what you're saying, imagining what you saw, you had to see it. can you even un-see such things? could you even comprehend as you thought happened, it was a human being doing these things to another human being? >> nothing of that is human. it is animals, only animals do such a thing. i have never seen such a thing. this is really low, only animals can do. it is nothing human you can see in the act. you know, it is burning, burning people. i went that afternoon and later to the festival, hundreds of people
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and kids, you know, 16, 17, 18 massacred, they are dead. you saw, i know when you kill someone from close contact, some of them tried to escape. they are waiting for them to get to the car and shoot at them in the car when they are trapped. you know, just awful, awful whim the amount of bullets and later on they tried to bring the car with the bodies. animals. we cannot have them as a neighbor. you know, they act jungle law, we have to act also with it because we are in the same jungle and cannot have the jungle in our own homes. >> how many hamas fighters did you see? >> myself with my own eyes, dozens of them. yeah.
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but i think 1500 hamas, i did not know it then, what we learned later is there were 1500 people or more, some of them more commander tag -- type, terrorist, and even civilians. they call civilians to take guns and go to the kibbutz. to do whatever they want, rape. we killed many of them . all of them had weapons. >> general, thank you very much. >> thank you for asking and being here with us. thank you very much >> general ziv did not hold back criticizing his own government and military. he called what happened saturday a complete failure.
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>> total collapse. i'm not going to say any excuses . it is total collapse. it is systematic collapse. it is the intelligence, the whole defense system, the defense system has a lot of elements, you know. defense, technology, deployment of the army, the backup, so many things. it all collapsed. so we cannot say any excuses is not acceptable. we have two investigated and learned seriousness. by the way, none of the, the idea hamas formed from terror organization would act as an army. what we think today is that iran is behind it, their plan is copy and paste of hezbollah.
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in the north and take over, exactly the same thing we have seen here. then again, we should guess or learn or take under serious assumption such things could have happened. and we didn't. >> next, the u.s. and qatar quietly agree not to release $6 billion sent to iran as part of a deal to free americans wasn't a mistake to make that money part of the deal? grueling wait for answers to mother waiting for word two of her children kidnapped along with three other members of her family, all missing tonight. has she heard anything about where those hostages might be?
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star back with breaking news live in tel aviv tonight. newly released video of hamas' assault on israeli kibbutz. this was obtained from cameras found on the bodies of dead hamas members wearing cameras.
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this is a think kibbutz where the idf says older people, women and children were brutally butchered in i.s.i.s. wave action, how they describe it exactly. it comes as hamas has drawn repeated comparison to i.s.i.s. i.s.i.s. mean something to the world, something horrific is hamas morphing into the new i.s.i.s.? a warning from this report that some images you will see are extremely graphic and disturbing. >> reporter: hamas is i.s.i.s. and just as i.s.i.s. was crushed, so too will hamas be crushed. hamas should be treated exactly the way i.s.i.s. was treated they should be spit out from the community of nations. >> reporter: benjamin netanyahu long compared hamas to the vicious resume of ices that established obedience through mass murder, lavishly filmed to spread maximum terror. the
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israeli prime ministers office published graphic teachers of dead babies on social media and bloodied crib following the hamas invasion of civilian kibbutz. his heart rate harnessed to galvanize international support . >> the brutality of hamas, the blood thirstiness brings to mind the worst rampages of i.s.i.s. >> reporter: israeli forces force to invade gaza ahead of ongoing air strikes that have killed 1400 thousand palestinians. the u.s. has aircraft carrier standing by off of the israeli coast. more than 1200 people killed from last weekend's assault on gaza. more than 200 were israeli soldiers, the rest were civilians. many of them children, toddlers, and babies. inevitably inviting comparison
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with the reign of the so-called islamic state. hamas has all long history of targeting the innocent including women and small children in suicide bombs especially. it has no pretensions to islamic faked like ices how do you explain why hamas even by the standards of hamas, killed so many civilians, so many children, so many toddlers? is there something that is a surprise? >> what happened now, killing civilians and killing children, i don't know why it happened even though it is not better with sunni islam. >> reporter: has not turned atrocities into propaganda videos but and to execute hostages on television. the movement is supported by iran but many other governments in the region have banned the hamas brand of political islam.
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in online press conference, hamas official attempted to disown the atrocities. >> there were clear instructions from the top commander of the grades to avoid targeting civilians or killing them. >> i'm not sure about the ice of comparison, i think it is too early but i think it is the case they were planning this for years and thinking through what they can do because everything else they had tried has not worked. certainly this is not going to work either. this will spell the end of hamas. >> reporter: that is israel's intent, prediction. most of the hamas fighters anticipated not going back to gaza and some experts i've spoken to said in the midst of the chaos, surprising success with military terms against israelis, they lost their minds and discipline and went on a
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rampage. i have to say palestinian experts are baffled by the level of carnage unleashed by hamas. >> thank you. i went to go to israel's ambassador to the united nations. we just heard the expert in sam's reporting thing and is not accurate to compare hamas to i.s.i.s. at this point. why do you believe they are wrong? >> i don't think it is so important to discuss thoroughly whether they are exactly like i.s.i.s. or more similar to the nazis. their charter calls for the total annihilation of the people of the state of israel and they should butcher every jew encounter. for many years we have seen
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them preparing , turning the whole gaza strip into a war machine. they tried many ways, indiscriminately fire thousands of missiles and rockets at our towns and cities. they failed only because we developed defensive missile system to protect and defend our children and then they dug tunnels to try to infiltrate our territory and we built the underground wall so now, unfortunately, sadly and tragically, they succeeded and they did what they wanted to do which is to butcher, slaughter every civilian that they saw. you described it, i don't intend to repeat the terrible atrocities committed. that is why we believe they should be
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treated exactly and total obliteration of their terrorist infrastructure. this war cannot end. >> another word for crisis. prime minister netanyahu has vowed to turn gaza into ruins. he speaks with the rage and fury i know he feels and you feel and others feel. to talk about avenging the attack, these words that he used, he said what we will deter enemies in the coming days will resonate for generations. today, when he appeared with the secretary of state antony blinken in tel aviv, antony blinken said that how israel does is matters. democracies distinguish ourselves from terrorists by striving for a different standard. ambassador, do you agree with that? do you agree how israel does this matters when it comes to 2 million people of whom many are
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women and young children? >> of course, israel never wants to harm civilians and what is happening in gaza is a tragedy. israel is a law-abiding democracy. we abide by international law you know, all of your viewers, they should ask themselves, what do you expect democratic state being threatened with annihilation by its neighbor? it is a neighbor we withdrew from its territory 18 years ago, they decided to turn all of their territory into a war machine to achieve their goals and they hide and store their weapons within populated areas. we have no other choice, we are fighting for our life, fighting for our existence. if we do not obliterate this war machine, their terrorist infrastructure, it will happen again. we will
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face these atrocities, not only israel, it is not just a battle against israel, israel is at the forefront of fighting terrorism. it happened before with 9/11 and many other countries around the world. this is a war against the civilized world and we are at the forefront. >> ambassador, you confirmed earlier this week there were up to 150,000 hostages in total pick spokesperson for ids believes those hostages could be held underground, scattered in various areas, hamas may have not been known to use before to evade israeli intelligence. i know you can't share that intelligence with us if you have any now but can you tell us if you have any more information on where the hostages are? whether they're dead or alive tonight? >> unfortunately as you emphasized, i won't be able to share it.
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i'm just saying that again, we expect talking a lot about international law, the first demand we expect the red cross, the u.n., security council will have its meeting tomorrow afternoon, first of all discuss the humanitarian situation of our hostages, women, babies, the elderly, all of them kept totally against violation of international law. those calling on israel to respect international law first, they have to demand hamas will release all of the hostages first and foremost. >> ambassador, thank you very much for your time. i appreciate it. listening to the ambassador, i want to bring wolf blitzer, who of course all of our viewers knows the story better than anyone out there. i want to ask you about what we learned today, the united
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states and qatar has been crucial in negotiating so many of these deals or agreements that may involve hostile powers for this case with the ron, the u.s. and qatar reached quiet understanding that iran will not be able to access the $6 billion part of the deal to free americans detained in iran. there were many extremely critical of the deal in the first place. it was $6 billion and now the funds are frozen. does it make a difference, does it do anything? >> i think it sends a powerful message not only to iran but others that even the biden administration, which negotiated this freeze on the $6 billion iranian money supposed to go to qatar and only used according to the u.s. treasury, which would control the money, for humanitarian purposes for food and medicine or medical supplies along those lines now the biden administration has agreed with so many others that $6 billion
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could be fungible if the iranians get the 6 billion through qatar, this program, they could free up 6 billion hefty use for food and medicine in other areas and free it up to do other things i think the biden administration realizes that is a mistake given what they see as iran's complicity in this hamas attack on israel they say there is no direct evidence, no compelling evidence iran was directly involved with hamas in this war but they think over the years, the support iran has given hamas and hezbollah and other terrorist organizations makes them complicit with the so they don't want to be seen providing any money for whatever purpose to iran right now. they probably sensed it was a mistake to begin that direction given the fact for several administrations, iran has been seen as the number one state sponsor of terrorism. >> yeah. when you see these thousands of
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troops lining up near the gaza border, 360,000, unprecedented and the weapons coming unprecedented. you hear the words of my minister netanyahu coming out of his mouth, always bold and offering threats but this time there is a rage and fury behind it. you see all of this and you have been here before, you were here in the most recent conflict with gaza and you have been in the tunnels, we offer members seeing you go down there to see the tunnels, do you think there's any chance this could de-escalate at this point? there is a chance that it is a tiny chance. >> my own suspicion based on everything i know and i've covered the wars in the middle east a long time, israel mobilizes, activates 300,000 close to 400,000 reservists and send them to the front line, they are there now, certainly something is going to happen. my suspicion is what we see now is about to get worse. israeli ground invasion of gaza will take place.
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it is my suspicion right now and who knows about could escalate the entire conflict. >> wolf, very much appreciate it. sobering but thank you story we told you about at the top of this show. she was at the festival with hamas attacked and she is survived. now she wants to join the fight. this viral video reportedly showing israel attacking gaza only it is not.
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we're back with breaking news in tel aviv at the white house tonight ruling out sending military personnel including special forces into gaza to free american hostages who right now, besides me, are being held there. hamas fighters at this hour holding 150 hostages in locations across gaza. my next guest believes five family members are among them being held by hamas tonight including two of her children. we will show you the images, this is her 12-year-old son being kidnapped by gunmen. they want the world to see this. disturbing footage but it shows them holding his arms dragging him away. also missing tonight are other numbers of her family, her mother and 16-year-old daughter, 13-year-old niece and ex- husband. look at that, her family.
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missing family members in separate homes of the southern israeli kibbutz near the gaza border. that is when they were taken had a loan in another home of the same village where she was able to hold off hamas fighters for eight hours surviving the terrifying assault by locking herself inside the safe room in her home. she came out to look for them of course they were gone. she is out front with me and i'm so sorry for the horror that you endured and the feeling of all feelings when he came out of the room and looked for them and they were not there. i know it has been seven days, have you heard anything, has the government been able to tell you anything about where your missing family members might be, are they okay, have you heard anything? >> no, i don't know anything. i just have hope, that is what i have left.
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the hope to stay alive and the hope they behave nice to them and take care of them. they are in a safe place. all i have is hope. >> the idf has the hostages they believe held underground and obviously her son and daughter and 80-year-old mother, they may all be underground. that has to be hard in and of itself to think about that, what you think it could mean for them? >> i can't see news so i don't know the information. i don't want to know, i don't want to see, i just want my children back. if i start to think about all
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of the situation and if they are underground or whatever, i can't survive. i just make a picture and i believe and i know they are coming back. i know the whole world is 24 hours around the situation. all of the world is fighting for them and the other children. i'm very, very thankful to all of the support. i believe the american government and qatar and the french government and the whole world is doing their best. my mom is american citizen, by the way. i hope the american government
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does their best, she is 80 years old. she is not young or healthy. what can i say? you know all the information already. it is like a massacre, family just gone. full families, children, grandparents, parents , babies, dogs, they even shoot dogs. it is cruel. it is against any law. yeah. >> hadas , it is. you are in our thoughts and prayers for anyone who prays as we think of you and what you are enduring and going through. i hope you will be getting good
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news and i hope soon. hadas, thank you . >> i just say i don't have a voice anymore, you can hear that. i don't even have any tears anymore. i just want you to take my voice and take my words and tell the whole world and ask the government to go there and pick them and release the children and elderly, release them immediately. every moment they are still there, it is a huge danger. they must be released. it is not there war, you cannot make war on children's back. what has happened to our world? crazy thank you, thank you very much.
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>> thank you. tonight, surviving a massacre and wanting to go and fight. that story is next. we met roni near the gaza border handing out food to soldiers. we will be back. >> roni, helping the soldiers and feeding them ever since the attack . it makes good to me, i feel relief and feeling good after what i saw there. >> she is waiting to join the army because she is in the reserve. >> you are in the reserve? >> she is trained soldier to drive vehicle for the army. >> you are ready to go? >> i wanted to go, i cannot give my soldiers ride there and i'm here. >> tell me what happened at the
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festival, you were there a few miles that way and what happened? >> i was working there and everything was fun and lovely and everyone was so happy and kind and just wanted to enjoy and dance and enjoy life and then at 6 1/2 in the morning, rockets be gone and everyone don't understand what is happening. the shooting started and we just don't want, we don't know what to do and everyone run out everywhere, everywhere they are in the bar and the bushes, in the trees. >> could you even see who was
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shooting at you? >> i am not but my friend, yes. they saw big soldiers, with terrorists on them, with big guns. and they were so evil and wanted to hurt people and people who just came to enjoy, to dance. i'm so sad because my friends died there. >> it is fine, thank you. >> i'm sorry. >> we just wanted to live happy life, we just wanted to celebrate and to dance and enjoy. then they are coming and shooting everywhere and i'm scared for my life and my father and my mom don't stop calling and they worry, they are worried about me and pick me up and if they don't come to
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pick me up, anyone will do this. i was dying. it is a miracle i'm standing here to talk to you. it is a miracle. >> yes. >> roni, you are so brave knowing what could happen, you are ready to go to fight . >> yeah, yeah. i just wanted to do, to go to the army and i want the proud again. >> roni says she is ready to fight, are you? >> i'm with her. >> roni, what do you want the world to know ? >> i want them to know there are really terrorists that do horrible things. babies and very old. >> it is not terrorist, it is devilish.
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>> i did not realize, it is horrible, it is very, very, it is hard for me to see this and to think about because every time i think about this, i'm shaking and crying. i can't sleep at night. i sleep in mom and dad's bed together because i can't sleep. every noise, everything sounds to me like shooting, everything. it is traumatic. it is bad. >> roni, thank you so much . thank you for talking to us. >> thank you. >> you are brave. i know. >> thank you so much.
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also tonight, viral videos about the war having huge impact . they are completely fake but having dire consequences. >> reporter: when video shows a rocket reportedly fired by hamas and other video claims to show israeli jets bombing gaza appeared neither is real this video is footage from a videogame and this is video of soccer celebrations in algeria. it is part of the tidal wave of viral misinformation and disinformation circulating around the israel and hamas conflict. works with online intelligence service and monitoring misinformation like this, fake bbc news report that falsely claimed ukraine provided weapons to hamas. this is relatively sophisticated stuff, it has the same graphics as the bbc news would have.
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>> right. i think what happened over recent years, it becomes very easy and affordable to mimic those graphics visualizations. >> reporter: response to paul's news report, bbc told cnn in a statement, world of increasing disinformation, we urge everyone to ensure they are getting information from a trusted source. hours after the hamas attack began on saturday, this began circulating on social media. fake white house memo falsely claiming the u.s. was sending billions of dollars in new aid to israel. this is like old school disinformation, fake white house document circulated pretty widely online. >> right. i do want to point out it is old-school tactic we have seen multiple years by now. with the current tools, you can also create it very quickly and make it. >> new information every second and every minute and every hour
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and a lot of room for error as things develop on the ground. >> reporter: tracks disinformation with atlantic council digital forensic research lab. >> it is hyper connected, israel is very connected country so we can see enormous amount of misleading content coming out of this conflict as the world's eyes are watching. >> reporter: twitter known as x is a major source of misinformation partly because of the changes elon musk made to the platform since he took over including laying off key employees. on thursday, european commission announced it was opening investigation into disinformation on x about the israeli hamas conflict. >> another component because several platforms scaled-back moderation, it is much easier to spread rumors, unsubstantiated rumors, false information very quick. >> reporter: this isn't just information war, it is a real