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hello and welcome, everyone. i appreciate your company. i'm michael holmes with our continuing coverage of israel at war. and we begin with new remarks from the u.s. president joe biden, who is warning that israel should not try to occupy gaza, as an israeli ground invasion seems all but inevitable. mr. biden says he believes israel has to respond to the hamas attacks that killed 1400 people, but issued a call for restraint. >> i think it would be a big mistake. look, what happened in gaza, in my view is hamas and the extreme elements of hamas don't represent all the palestinian people, and i think that it
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would be a mistake to -- for israel to occupy gaza again. but to go in and taking out the extremists, the hezbollah is up north, but hamas down south is a necessary requirement. >> do you believe that hamas must be eliminated entirely? >> yes, i do. but there needs to be a palestinian authority. there needs to be a path to a palestinian state. >> now those comments as tens of thousands of palestinians flee south after the israeli military urged civilians to leave northern areas of gaza. the palestinian health ministry says more than 2600 people have been killed, including 700 children and is appealing for humanitarian aid as conditions deteriorate in gaza.
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aid deliveries have been piling up on the egyptian side of the rafah border crossing where thousands of people remain stuck on the gaza side. u.s. secretary of state antony blinken who met with egypt's president said the crucial crossing will be opened. cnn's clare sebastian is following developments and joins me now live from london. good to see you, clare. let's start with conditions in gaza. water, fuel, electricity and more all big concerns. >> shelter, functioning hospitals, really everything that you can think of is running short in the region. and the problem that we have is that this call by israel to evacuate comes after a full week of heavy bombardment, which as you say has already killed more than 2,500 palestinians according to the palestinian authoritied, injured more than 9,500. it also comes after a week of this total siege as israel called it, that cuts off those
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vital supplies. not only compounding the humanitarian crisis, but a significant impediment to people actually being able to move from the north to the south of the enclave. and it has hurt the health system in this region, which would have already been strained by those 9,500 injured, at serious risk of collapse. listen to the head of the palestinian red crescent speaking to cnn's erin burnett. >> food and water is running out. medicine and obviously fuel. we have been saying we only have fuel for a few days. today i can say that we only have fuel maybe for tomorrow and half tomorrow. and without fuel, the hospitals will not function. >> so one, maybe two days of fuel left there, michael. water is another major issue. as you say, israel had said and the u.s. as well that the water
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supply had been switched back on to gaza on sunday. but the palestinian authorities there saying that they couldn't confirm that, the water authority because you need electricity to pump the water. and they couldn't confirm that they had that back as well in order to do so. and shelter, another major issue. the u.n. humanitarian saying they are severely limited on kpas any the south. not enough space for those people who are fleeing. so the focus now heavily on how to get refugees out and how to get aid in. michael? >> yeah. and speaking of aid, what more do we know about the efforts at the rafa gate, both for aid, but also to get some people out? >> yeah, i mean, i think this is still a very uncontrolled situation. and we've got a real sense of that this morning. a new alert fr the u.s. embassy in israel which says the situation around rafa will remain, quote, fluid and unpredictable, and really puts the onus on civilians themselves
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trying to get out, saying it's unclear whether for how long travelers will be permitted to access the crossing. you may risch to move closer to the rafah border crossing and it warns there will be very little notice if it opens, and it may be for a limited time. i think that really gives you a sense of how unclear the situation is there. but obviously, efforts are ongoing. secretary blinken said rafa will be open as he was in egypt on sunday, having worked with egypt, israel and the u.n. on this. but, of course, the current situation is untenable on each side of this border. aid, as you say, piloting up on the egyptian side. a stadium is being used to accommodate supplies. look, momentum clearly towards something happening, but we don't have any breakthroughses of yet. michael? >> clare sebastian in london with the very latest. thanks, clare. now for the first time since the shocking and deadly hamas attack on israel, the president
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of the palestinian authority has con condemned and condemned strongly the militants' actions. mahmoud abbas said the policies of hamas do not represent the palestinian people. he also called for a rejection of violence and the release of prisoners on both sides of the conflict. the comments came during the phone call with the president of venezuela. iran's president is warning that the war between israel and hamas could spread to other parts of the mideast if the crisis in gaza is not resumed soon. in a call with france's emmanuel macron on sunday, iran's president called for an immediate end to the bombardment of residential areas in gaza and demanded that efforts be made to lift the blockade on the territory. u.s. secretary of state antony blinken spent the weekend holding talks with leaders across the middle east in the hopes of preventing a spread of the conflict. he is warning iran and other
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regional players not to take advantage of the crisis, noting that the u.s. is sending a second carrier strike group to the region. >> we back that up not only with the words that we're saying, but with what we're actually doing, including the deployment of these aircraft carrier battle groups. again, not to provoke anyone, but to send a very clear message of deterrence, that no one should do anything that widens this conflict in any way or that furthers aggression against israel from any other direction. so we've been clear about that. >> ther jets hit hezbollah military infrastructure in lebanon on sunday. an uptick in clashes with the conflict could spread. ben wedeman is in southern lebanon with details. >> it was another day of cross-border strike and counterstrike between hezbollah and israel with the violence edging beyond isolated incidents
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and starting to veer toward the scenario so many here fear. another full-on war between hezbollah and israel, one worse perhaps than the more than month-long battle they fought in 2006. throughout the day, hezbollah fighters targeted israeli military positions on the border, firing guided missiles at communications, observation, and surveillance equipment. and also hitting some israeli towns, killing one israeli civilian and wounding several others. israel fired artillery and launched air strikes on what it called hezbollah military infrastructure. as a result of the fighting, israel declared a four kilometer deep closed military zone along the border to keep civilians away. in the afternoon, a volley of rockets was fired into israel, most intercepted by the iron dome. but it wasn't hezbollah but rather the military wing of hamas that claimed
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responsibility. at roughly the same time a rocket hit the headquarters of the u.n. peacekeeping force just north of the border, slamming into the helipad there. no one was injured. the u.n. is trying to determine whether the rocket was fired from. all of this doesn't amount to war yet, but it's getting dangerously close. ben wedeman, cnn, southern lebanon. >> earlier i spoke with a senior fellow with the middle east institute. i asked him what more could the u.s. and regional countries do to contain the ongoing crisis. >> there is an effort here to contain this war rather than to preclude it. i think it's a clear green light from the administration in washington for israel to commence a ground invasion of gaza, and to try, to try and finish hamas. so where the efforts are concerned right now is to try and alleviate some of the civilian suffering in gaza through humanitarian corridors,
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but also to contain the conflict and make sure that we don't have full on war between hezbollah and lebanon and israel, because if that does take place, that carries the potential to suck in others in the region, and a war with hezbollah would make gaza a sideshow. >> yeah. israel's response to the massacre of civilians is expected, of course. but given the style of what's happened and what could be to come, one question to be considered soon is what comes after? who fixes gaza? who caters to the population? i guess who owns what's left? >> yeah, my guess is that a lot of these discussions that are taking place in the regional capitals exactly about that. and we saw a meeting between on one hand secretary blinken, but also with the president of the palestinian authority, mahmoud abbas. i think what they're collectively trying to figure out is that if indeed israel is successful in uprooting hamas
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from gaza, what will fill that void? and there are many thoughts in there. it could be direct israeli occupation, which we heard from president biden today that he is not in favor of. thinks it's a bad idea. one option is for the palestinian authority to return to gaza and try to governor there. but we also know that the palestinian authority, hold on the west bank is tenuous. >> yeah. >> so it's anybody's guess as to whether they'd be able to accomplish that in gaza. >> not a lot of respect for the p.a. in the west bank and gaza. the whole notion of a two-state solution has been effectively dead. not even really on life support. there are those in netanyahu's cabinet who openly favor not only the spread of settlement, but the annexation of the west bank. what do you think has been the effect of burying, not add addressing palestinian concerns
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and aspirations in recent months and years. >> let me say that nothing, nothing justifies the kind of killing of civilians that we saw in israel. >> of course. >> but of course one has to put that in the overall historical context. and when there are people that are occupied and under siege and don't have their very basics met, clearly that is breeding ground for violence. and so it must be -- there must be a path towards, you know, to addressing these grievances that the palestinians have. and the two-state solution remains until this day the only viable option. there are some people out there who think that a one-state solution might work, but i find it very hard to believe. >> that was firas maksasd, senior fellow speaking to me earlier. israel is planning a ground incursion into gaza, with civilians of course still inside the enclave. there is only one way for people to get out of gaza right now,
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and that is through the rafa crossing into egypt. the u.s. embassy in israel says there may be very little notice if the crossing opens, and it might be only for a limited time. cnn's wolf blitzer spoke earlier with the israeli president isaac herzog about what steps israel is taking to protect civilians. >> we are never, never indifferent to the pain of our palestinian neighbors, and we always try to operate according to the basic guidelines of international law. we are trying to move these citizens away from the war zone in order so that we can go in and uproot that infrastructure of terror. incidentally, perhaps give hope also that the palestinians out there so that they can run their life independently in an honorable way, live and let live. but right now, they're under the
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suppression of hamas. and what we are trying to do is move them to another safe zone so that they won't be hurt. but hamas is threatening them, stopping them. hamas has all the fuel, by the way. it is using the fuel to fight us and shoot at us. hamas has all the water that they need. they're stopping it. hamas has clear instructions that they have given to their soldiers to basically torture the people in gaza. that's what we are seeing. and let me tell you another interesting fact. hamas is the one that with their missiles broke all the electricity wires supplied to gaza. we are not responsible for their electricity in gaza. they are. but since they're sending out fake news and linebacker bennells and stories full of lies, our answer is very clear. we will do whatever it takes that civilians will not be hurt. we are working very closely with the united nations and other agencies. we are talking to them. we are cooperating with them on the ground.
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welcome back. aid groups are preparing for the worst as the humanitarian crisis in the region intensifies with each day of the conflict. the director general of the palestinian red crescent says hospitals face imminent shutdowns since there is very little fuel left to run generator, and therefore crucial equipment to keep people alive. he says some of the hospitals only have enough fuel for monday, and possibly some of tuesday. food, medicine, painkillers and water also in short supply. water from israel has been cut off in many places from israel, and with many people lining up now for hours, hoping to refill bottles and canister, as you see there. the pentagon has ordered a second carrier strike group to
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the mediterranean sea as israel prepares to expand its gaza operations. u.s. warships not intended to join in the fighting, but their presence designed to send a message of deterrence to iran and hezbollah. cnn's hadas gold reports. >> reporter: as of right now, the united states is giving absolutely no indication that it plans to send in u.s. military boots on the ground in any way to israel to try and assist either in the operations in gaza or in part of any sort of hostage rescue operations. but what it's doing right now is a show of force, a show of unity with these carrier strike groups sitting in the waters off the coast, a very clear message to other groups in the region. not even just hamas, but hezbollah, groups in syria as well as a deterrent to try to keep them from getting involved. now we do know that the americans have sent -- already have on the ground a federal team who can help in hostage situations. they are assisting the israelis, and there is reporting that a
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marine egxpeditionary unit is headed towards israel. 2,000 marines and sailers who cannot only help in major evacuations, but they've also had training in hostage rescue scenarios. now no indication that is where they're headed or that's why they would potentially be headed towards the region. bury gives you an idea of potentially the support that the israelis may be receiving from the u.s. military. now the israeli military and the u.s. military work very, very closely together. they are constantly training with one another. and israeli military officials often call the american military their brothers in arms. they actually just had their largest ever joint exercise in the last few months. and during that exercise, they made it explicitly clear that such an exercise was a very clear message to iran, saying that if you get involved in a way of attacking israel, be careful, because the americans are there to support them.
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but john kirby has already said that they have no plans and no intentions right now of sending u.s. troops on the ground into israel. and chuck schumer in an interview erin burnett said earlier the israelis have not asked for troops on the ground. they have asked for munitions, ammunition and the support of having the carrier strike groups off the coast to try and deter any other actors from getting involved. but even if a hostage operation is attempted, it are be incredibly complex, very, very difficult, and the israelis will be seeking some sort of support most likely from the americans in terms of logistics and experience. hadas gold, cnn, washington. still to come on the program, growing humanitarian concerns in gaza. we'll hear from one official about the situation on the ground there.
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israel and hezbollah fighters have also been exchanging fire, raising fears of a second front in the ongoing conflict in the middle east. the israel defense forces say that its fighter jets struck hezbollah's military infrastructure on sunday, and say they were responding to fire coming from lebanon. meanwhile, as fighting intensifies in gaza, hundreds of thousands of civilians are fleeing south. the u.s. embassy in israel said a short time ago that the rafa crossing between egypt and gaza may open at short notice for a, quote, limited time. the crossing has been closed since the fighting began. israeli troops, meanwhile,
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continue to gather near gaza ahead of an expected ground defensive against hamas militants. the last time went in to target hamas leaders was 2014. nic robertson looks back at the operation then and what israel is planning now. >> reporter: close to gaza, preparations under way for a much anticipated ground offensive. troops from different units training together. there is an urgency here. they have to be ready fast. right now this is a rehearsal. if and when there is an incursion, these troops could be at the front of it, trangs or model ones right now followed by infantry and combat engineers, a combined force spearheading an incursion. if they do, major ofek will be near the front. >> translator: we expect to go to war. we expect to destroy the
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terrorist organization hamas, kill its governments, and kill every last terrorist. that's what we plan to do, and that's how it will be. >> reporter: the last time the idf went into gaza targeting hamas' leaders was 2014. ariel bernstein was 21, in the special forces, one of the first to cross the border. >> you're just afraid that there is something waiting for you at every corner. >> reporter: but his experiences then have left him questioning the tactics today. back then he says the idf warned civilians to leave, and hamas told them to stay, just as is happening now. but some had stayed. his orders he said, assume the civilians had left. >> whoever you see is basically engaged in fighting or is involved in fighting. and therefore we call it engaging with fire with any home you enter, with any kind of
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shape of a person that you see from afar. >> reporter: in many ways, israel's actions are playing out, just as they have in the past. 2021 gun positions freshly dug, back in use. and in gaza, the civilian death toll according to palestinian health officials already higher than in 2014. and like then, israel is already facing huge international pressure. to avoid more civilian casualties. >> what we are doing is saying privately what we've said publicly is that all military operations should be conducted consistently with rules of war. the civilian should be protected. >> reporter: the problem, just like 2014, hamas will be hiding among civilians. >> the whole situation we're talking would be gazan civilians
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forbly embedded is another element of hamas. hamas has to be fully defeated. >> so the responsibility is on them, not you. >> the responsibility is on hamas for their own civilians. our responsibility is to eliminate hamas' capabilities completely. >> reporter: major ofek says they don't hurt innocent, only terrorists, but admits if he is sent into gaza, avoiding civilian deaths won't be easy. do you think it's possible to fight hamas without civilians getting injured? >> translator: we're concerned with overthrowing hamas regime and killing the terrorists who are currently in gaza. if it will be difficult, it will be difficult. not easy. >> reporter: outside the camp gates, as israel's military ponder their next move, troops are saying their fond farewells. nic robertson, cnn, southern israel. >> and joining me now to talk
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more about the conditions in gaza and the urgent humanitarian appeals is hani al hamoun. i want to get to the humanitarian situation first, but i do want the say, you have family in gaza. more than a dozen have died, as i understand it. i can't imagine that loss and how worried you are about other family members. how are they? >> not very good, first. thank you for having me and giving me an -- to share my concerns about the well-being of my family. i am here because of somebody who has family and family man in gaza. right now as we speak, they're not doing very well, and i'm happy to elaborate as you ask. >> medecins sans frontieres put out a statement, and i just want to read from it for you and quote from it. it says this, "hospitals are overwhelmed. there are no more painkillers
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now. our staff tells us about the wounded screaming in pain, the injured, the sick who cannot get to the hospital. i mean, it's so hard to comprehend that situation. no painkillers in a place that is full of wounded people. what is your understanding of the situation for civilians in gaza, or even those who have headed south? >> it is called like judgment day. this is the end of days in gaza right now. if people can't find water, if they can't find fuel, you know, my family is in northern gaza. they're unable to evacuate to the israeli city would be a safer zone, even though it was bombed last night. there is a lot of confusion there is a lot of really tension in the community because people can't find bread. fighting over a loaf of bread, fighting over some water. and my brother was telling me today in gaza he hasn't showered in a week. he is afraid to eat because he would neat water. there is very little resources.
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and my mom was telling me the kids yesterday, the best they can get for them is dried foods and dates. this is not humanity. america is better than this. we're the leaders of the free world. and in the first few days, the president was -- there is a drumming the war drums, to religious fever in a way verifying the palestinians here. and we're being verified in america and in palestine where there is large civilians. in gaza where 50% of the population is under the age of 19. they have not had the choice to make a decision, good or bad. they're still children. and this is where we are right now. >> yeah, there is a lot of talk about hamas being elected. that was 2011. there hasn't been an election since. and in that election, they're throwing their opponents off rooftops and half the population wasn't born. yeah, that's an important side on this. on the humanitarian side, unruh says 400,000 people in unruh
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schools and buildings right now, which is unimaginable. i mean, there is word that aid could be coming through the rafa crossing from egypt soon. but we don't know when exactly. how urgent is that situation? how desperate for those gazans who are waiting for -- i can't imagine those facilities. we're looking at an unruh school right now, and packed to the gills with people. it's not meant for this. >> absolutely. this is tragic. and i don't know how killing -- has taken on hamas, ambulances and firefighter just like 20 minutes ago in gaza helps take on hamas. this is a tragedy that should be prevented. civilians should really be saved from this. i have a family. my family is hiding somewhere up north. and we cannot find a way out. i hope my mother, my kids, my nephews and nieces are safe. anybody has an idea how to get them out of there to a safe zone, please get in touch with
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me, please. >> i can't imagine the stress of that. this is important too. the hamas, the terror attack on israeli civilians is undeniably horrific, inexcusable. do you worry that palestinians in gaza are all being treated as guilty, even when they perhaps don't support hamas or what it did? many in the world blame all palestinians for what happened. >> yeah, absolutely. there is people who came in this network, made genocide statements, some other networks as well. and nobody pushed off. and right now we're bugging the administration to get american citizens out of gaza. and this is why they're working hard behind the scenes. folks, there is a lot of tension. people feel we're not valued as much. i'm sure you heard about the kid what n chicago who was killed in a hate crime today because their neighbor was oh, my gosh, the palestinians are coming. so there is a lot. we need to cool it a little bit.
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palestinians are not all muslims. there is christian palestinians. i was at the white house rally yesterday hand in hand with jewish christians and muslims and no faith people. this is not about muslims against jews. yes, the attacks against israel, horrible, sure. we didn't have to have a parade for than and just ignore the palestinians. how many palestinians do you need? you have 500 kids who are dead or more by the end of the day. i'm not sure. this is horrific. and i'm going to talk about it as much as you ask. >> and to that point, i've covered a lot of wars, i've got to say, including in gaza. and it strikes me that one of the risks is that people become numbers. you concerned that the humanity is lost? and in fact, it's over 700 children who are being killed. do you worry that that's just a number and not 700 separate young lives cut short in the minds of too many people? >> you are absolutely correct. i'm talking to you now, and have i lost 16 family members, 14 who
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are related and two are like from the extended family. and those are just numbers. because there is the body count is rising, we have not had a moment to reflect on all the tragedies. and that's the horrific, you know. my friend was saying the best hope they have is turned into a facebook meme because nobody has time to bury. nobody has time to grieve. they're not even allowed to gather. they're not safe at the hospital. i live next door, the hospital was in the news all night. there is bombing around it because they want people to evacuate the hospital. you know, you're talking about people open heart surgeries, dialysis machines. how is that acceptable? you mentioned my usa affiliation at the beginning. unruh schools are being argued the. at least 19 u.n. facilities have been damaged in this conflict. the staff don't feel safe. they're moving from town to town, they're trying to help the refugees there with shelter. and you mentioned the number, 400,000 palestinian refugees. it is a school. it is not supposed to have shower. there is a lot of complications
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that are not taken into consideration. water. this is sort of like a crime. if russia did it, everybody would be writing on facebook and all these ngos would be speaking about it. now they're beginning to speak about the atrocities happening in gaza. but to be honest with you, it doesn't feel like -- there is a mismatch between the attitude of america and the west and their behavior. what we see in gaza is horrific. >> hani al adoun, thank you so much. we appreciate your time. and our thoughts are with your family. >> we appreciate you. thanks for having me. >> still to come on the program, u.s. house republicans return to capitol hill -- today, actually. first on the agent, choose a new speaker. will the lawmakers agree on a new leader remains to be seen. we'll have that when we come back.
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police say 71-year-old joseph czuba fatally stabbed 6-year-old wadea al-fayoume and seriously wounded the boy's mother as well in what authorities believe was a hate crime. the mother reportedly texted the boy's father from the hospital saying czuba, the family's landlord, had attacked the family, yelling "you muslims must die." we've not yet heard from czuba, and it's unclear if he has an attorney. in a statement, president biden said in part, quote, this horrific act of hate has no place in america and stands against our fundamental values. he went on, "as americans, we must come together and reject islamophobia and all forms of bigotry and hatred." now when white house republicans gather behind closed doors in washington on monday evening, they will be in their 13th day of operating without a leader. ohio congressman jim jordan is expected to force a floor vote on tuesday as he tries to become
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the next speaker of the house. jordan was nominated to replace kevin mccarthy who became the first u.s. speaker in u.s. history to be ousted by his own party. during friday's nomination vote, jordan seemed well short of the support he'll need to win the speaker's gavel, but he appeared optimistic. >> i think we'll get 217 votes. >> but you only keep running if you get 217 votes? >> i think we'll -- i think we'll -- watch your step, watch your step. i think we'll get 217 votes. >> one senior house member who opposes a jordan speakership tells cnn he thinks there are roughly 40 votes against him and at least 20 members willing to go to the floor on monday to block jordan's path if he tries to compel a roll call fell. jessica levinson is a professor at law school and joins me now
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from los angeles. always good to see you, jessica. there is significant party opposition to jim jordan. a lot of his own people don't like him, particularly the moderates. what if he doesn't get the numbers? what then? >> then it's going to be deja vu all over again, and we're going have this conversation with respect to the next candidate. and there is an incredibly small possibility, i don't think this is likely, but it could be a democrat. it could be hakeem jeffries, who is able to get the few republicans that he needs to reach that magic number, which we all know is 217. i think the more likely scenario here is if the jim jordan fails, which is in fact likely, then the republican party will try and coalesce around some sort of coalition compromise candidate. >> even republicans have said -- i mean, i heard them talking to manu raju saying we look like a
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bunch of idiots. it's a circus. what do the last couple of weeks tell us about the slate of the republican party, at least on the house side? >> at least on the house side, it's not a good look. it looks like they're in chaos. it looks like they cannot pick a leader. it looks like they have ground our legislative agenda, meaning the country's ability to legislate to a halt. it looks like we're going facing another big budgetary crisis in just a few weeks. as we know, we kept the government open for 42 days. the clock is ticking. and republicans are going to need to coalesce behind somebody and ensure that our government remains open, which is a public good for all of us. so it looks like there is a deep rift in the party. and it looks like this might be something that democrats can really campaign on going into the 2024 election, saying they're the ones who got it to the verge of shutting down the government. they're the ones who couldn't
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elect a speaker. >> yeah. it really paralyzed half of the u.s. congress. they can't even pass a resolution on the israel/gaza conflict. i guess the question is -- let's remember, jim jordan is not their first -- not their first effort either. you had steve scalise who then pulled out after being nominated. is there anyone that leaps to your mind who might be a consensus candidate for them? >> it might not be who. it might be when. meaning that at a certain point, as you said, republicans are saying publicly we don't look good. we look like clowns. this look likes chaos. so it may be that if jim jordan fails, that the next person who is able to make some compromises and get some additional republicans on board to get to that 217 is the person, not because they necessarily have the legislative credentials and/or experience, but because people come to realize that we simply can't run our government this way. >> yeah.
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and what about matt gaetz? he is the guy who started all this by engineering kevin mccarthy's firing, basically. do you think he is going to emerge unscathed by the chaos, or do you think the knives are out for him? >> i think the knives are out. and i think matt gaetz is a cautionary tale when it comes to whoever is going to come next in trying not to give too many compromises to too many people, too many promises. part of what happened with kevin mccarthy is that he gave competing promises. he said i will be everything for everybody, and that was simply not ever going to be possible. so i think matt gaetz there really stands as a cautionary tale against whoever takes over next not to overpromise. in terms of what's going to happen to matt gaetz next, there is a lot of cameras on him. you and i are talking about him. that might not have otherwise happened. so i believe he thinks this is really good for his profile and he at a certain point will be eyeing a run to be the next governor of florida.
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>> you mentioned at the beginning, the idea, the notion that a democrat could end up as speaker. i mean, is that even feasible? could that happen? >> it absolutely could happen. it does not defy the laws of physics. it is absolutely possible given the current house rules and procedures. i think given how polarized we are, i know that's an overused word and i hate using it, but i think the republicans will ultimately conclude that they would rather have a republican who they're not particularly happy with than hakeem jeffries. let's remember republicans are holding on to a majority by only a very slim margin, only three votes. and they're not going want to see their power -- i think it will be very difficult to go back to their districts and run for reelection saying i know we had a majority, but it ended up that we decided a democratic speaker of the house was better,
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or we simply couldn't hold our caucus together to elect a republican speaker of the house. so entirely possible and absolutely not probable. >> yeah, yeah. we need a better word than polarized. riven maybe. jessica, always good to see you. jessica levinson, thanks so much. >> thank you. exit polls show poland's populist ruling party is set to lose its parliamentary majority after saturday's hard fought election. the opposition led by former prime minister donald tusk appears on course to gain control if it strikes deals with smaller parties. >> translator: we did it, really. i know that our dreams were even more ambitious, but i will tell you i have been a politician for many years. i'm an athlete. i have never been so happy with this supposed second place in my life. poland won.
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d democracy won. >> the results are expected toin its roll with russia. turning to aversion, where a 6.3 magnitude earthquake struck the western force of the country on sunday morning, at least 50 people were injured and hospitalized following sunday's quake. taliban officials estimate more than a thousand were injured mostly women and children. civilian victims of the israel-hamas war. we'll show you the victims, we'll be right back.
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>> around the world, people are taking to the streets to show support for both the israelis and palestinians. however pro palestinian rallies were most prevalent on sunday. cnn's melissa bell more on that. >> reporter: in sydney, thousands turned out to express solidarity with palestinians and oppose israel's military action in gaza.
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the police out in full force as well with organizers warning that antisemitic behavior shown at previous protests would not be welcome. no sign of that at the crowds here but -- >> what about spreadings awareness and support? we have no enforceable power for anyone who protect them. shame on those who do and don't do anything. >> in france and germany where they have been banned, fans vented ager at boast both israel and the united states. similar signs of solidarity in pakistan. >> we have seen with the israelis and all over pakistan
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that the israelis are not alone. >> and in tunisia more is not being done to protect palestinian. >> i am a palestinian a son of gaza. my people are facing extermination and gays is being devastated. where is the international community, where is the airbus, where is the arab conscience? >> similar crowds but similar plea. >> the muslims are very tired and everyone is tired of conflicts and everyone wants. >> reporter: melissa bell, cnn paris. >> thank you for spending time with me. after our break.
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