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house in chaos as ringing a little hollow. >> a little hollow indeed. it is just a remarkable change for the man that john boehner when he was speaker cristened a quote/unquote legislative terrorist to now making the argument that i'll be speaker of the house, i'll keep the government open, do all the things i'm supposed do. you know, what a world we live in. jackie kucinich, thank you very much. >> thank you. and thanks to all of you for joining us. i'm kasie hunt. don't go anywhere. "cnn this morning" starts right now.w. ♪ good morning, everyone. i'm glad you're with us. i'm poppy harlow with phil mattingly in new york.
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today, president biden is set to leave washington on a high-stakes trip to israel as this war with hamas intensifies and the humanitarian crisis in gaza escalates. president under growing pressure to get critical aid to millions of civilians in gaza and also supporting israel and trying to save american hostages held captive by the hamas terror group. >> he's coming here at a critical moment for israel, for the region, and for the world. the president will hear from israel how it will conduct its operations in way that minimizing civilian casualties and allows humanitarian to flow to citizens in gaza. it's critical that aid begin flowing into gaza as soon as possible. >> the israeli military says biden's visit will not delay its planning for that potential ground operation into the gaza strip. final humanitarian aid has been piling up at the border crossing in egypt which remains closed.
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the world health organization is now warning that water is running out for hundreds of thousands of displaced palestinians. satellite images show 30-foot craters blocking the roadway near the crossing. let's begin with erin burnett live in tel aviv. the israeli military said it's concerned about the humanitarian situation but there's no cease fire yet. what do we know about how this plays out? >> reporter: well, of course, that border is still closed, as you point out, phil. they're concerned about the humanitarian situation. there is no cease fire. at this point, of course, despite all the attempts at negotiations, not much more to say. what you said is hugely significant. you talk about 30 foot craters. it is on the reality of the ground the actual terrain. the actual craters in the ground that may matter so much. you oip a border that can't be opened. that's the reality of the situation right now. that of course is what president biden is walking into. making a high-stakes trip to israel tomorrow. and that visit is intended to try to cool things down, to try
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to ratchet down the tensions somewhat, in some way if he can succeed in addition to reaffirming u.s. solidarity with israel. we'll see how -- if there's any chance of this being successful. cnn's arlette saenz joins us from the white house. what is he hoping to accomplish? you walk into something like this as the president of the united states, you can't just walk in and walk out and have been an invasion happen and not look bad. so what's the goal? >> reporter: yeah, well for president biden this is a high-stakes diplomatic test as he's not only trying to show solidarity with israel but also act as a deterrence to adversaries in the region. you consistently heard president biden warn adversaries against trying to use this situation to their advantage. but this invitation to this israel came from prime minister benjamin netanyahu over the weekend. the president's team deliberated over the weekend on monday about whether he would move forward with such a trip and ultimately it was announced last evening by secretary of state antony
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blinken, who had engaged in a marathon more than seven-hour sessions of talks with top israeli officials. and a key point of discussion between blinken and those officials and what is expected to be a key focus for president biden is the passage of that humanitarian aid into the gaza strip as well as ensuring that civilians are safe and protected as israel continues to issue their strikes against gaza. but this all also comes as the president is also concerned and has pledged to the families of the missing americans that he will do everything he can to try to determine where they are and get them back. but in addition to this visit to israel, which is important in its own right, the president is also planning to travel to jordan. it is there where he will visit and meet with the leaders of egypt, jordan as well as the palestinian authority. the president is expected to discuss with them also the humanitarian issues at hand as they're trying to get more aid into gaza as well as ensures the
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safety of civilians. but this all comes as there are huge security concerns about the president traveling into an active war zone. you have seen the president do that in the past. it was a secret trip when he traveled earlier this year to ukraine. but the white house acknowledged that this is a very tense situation, that they did their homework about the security concerns and ultimately decided that they could announce the trip ahead of time and that the president would be traveling there. but this will be a high-stakes moment for president biden as his visit there could further tie him to the response to this israeli crisis. >> as you point out, could very much further tie him to that in a way that the united states would then be indelibly linked to. thank you very much, arlette saenz. well, of course, at the heart of this is still the fact that the hostages are still in gaza. 199 of them, israel says. but they are still there. and movement on that, of course, could be hugely significant in how this plays out. the mother of one of those hostages kidnapped by hamas is
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speaking out this morning. a short time ago karen shem pleaded for her daughter's mia's release a day after hamas released a hostage video of mia. we are not going to show it because it is propaganda, but in it mia is asking to be returned to her family as a medical worker or somebody treats her injured arm. >> i started to shout. i fell to the floor and to scream. so i wasn't -- i didn't really knew what i was thinking. i saw my baby. then it became -- we started to cry. wow, she's alive and to be so happy. and then i started to be -- i felt scared. my message to my daughter is
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that i love her so much. and i miss her so much. and all these days, i just thought i'm hugging her when she's coming home. and that's what kept me strong and focussed. i didn't know she's dead or alive until yesterday. what i knew is that she's -- might be kidnapped. i'm begging the world to bring my baby back home. she only went to a party, to a festival party, to have some fun. and now she's in gaza. >> of course, phil and poppy,
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what she filmed was under duress. mia is a hostage. one of our hostage experts was saying they could hear ventilators, she is being held under ground along with other hostages. they tried to do hair and makeup to have her look nice and trying to manipulate the situation. the significance still stands, hamas by putting it out is trying to show someone is alive and show that they have that leverage. and obviously that leaves the door open for a possible hostage return. >> and that is going to be crucial, erin, right, when the president -- when president biden is on the ground there tomorrow, what will be done by the united states? will israel negotiate? they have been saying no to this point. but to see that video and hear that mother plead to the world to bring her daughter home is quite something. president biden's
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high-stakes diplomatic visit to israel tomorrow is going to involve discussions and a briefing about hostages but also comes as the u.s. military is intensifying its show of force in the region. defense officials telling cnn that a unit of about 2,000 marines and sailers has been ordered to the region on top of the u.s. carrier air strikes deployed and the head of the u.s. central command is in tel aviv to meet with israel's military chief of staff to better understand the defense requirements and outline american support during the conflict. cnn's military analyst and retired u.s. army general mark hertling is here to walk us through all of it. you see the deployment of rapid response force u.s. marines to the region, not to israel itself. what does that tell you? >> first of all the marines were in the area. conducting exercises and training in cue kuwait and oman. but to give them an order to stop the training, stop the exercise, get back on the baton, their mothership, if you will, and get into the area tells me
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that there's a lot of stops being pulled out with more force capabilities, more force packages. what is this arg or arg as the marines call it, amphibious ready group. it's the uss baton with several ships that can carry 2,200 marine. they can do a spectrum of operations, phil. everything from crisis response to noncombatant evacuations. it says special ops on it. it's capable unit. what that means is they can contribute to s.e.a.l.s. and rangers and delta forces and others that might be called into the area. they have the ability to do an amphibious assault on a shore that isn't necessarily what they're going to do. having them at the ready is a good idea. >> what about security considerations for president biden making this trip, especially given what we saw, the sirens going off, senators romney and chuck schumer had to take cover when that happened.
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>> yeah. >> where the president is going as well. >> what i would say is special services, secret services are going through some cheetah flips right now, poppy. they're really ramping up and it's a quick announcement of a visit. they've only had a couple days to plan. so they will talk to the marines in the embassy in tel aviv and get some additional security there. you can bet there will be aircraft overhead, both lower rotary wing and higher fixed wing aircraft jets when the president is in the area. but that's not going to prevent hamas or hezbollah from launching rockets during the time he's here. >> this is different from when he went to ukraine in february to mark one year of that war. this is different, way different in terms of security concerns. >> yeah. it's slightly different. it was still active combat zones in both cases, but just because of the size of the area -- >> proximity. >> he is under the potential for rocket fire, just like senator schumer and his team were yesterday. but they will be in tel aviv. the country of israel is only
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250 miles long and at its widest point 85 miles wide versus ukraine and kyiv especially which is about 800 miles wide and about 400 miles long. so, yeah, it's a compressed area and he's going to be there. >> cheetah flips? >> always dangerous having the guy talking about an amphibious ready group. >> these two army guys know what that is and i don't know what that is and that's a technical term. >> new technical term. mark hertling, appreciate it, sir. thank you. much more on president biden's high-stake trips to israel, yes, but also one of our own cnn journalists caught in the escalating crisis in gaza with his family. their desperate journey south from gaza city is all detailed on camera. you'll see that next right h
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♪ hospitals in gaza received 110 bodies from different areas of southern gaza. that just happened overnight. and right now, the humanitarian corridor is still not safe. over 44 hospitals in gaza have been hit and the world health organization says 84,000 pregnant women there require aid right now. this as the water crisis is also escalating. civilians are suffering from dehydration and water-born illnesses. and cnn has been sharing with you the stories of palestinians trying to escape as israel's assault on hamas escalates.
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but now one of the people being forced from home is one of our very own, ibrahim, cnn journalist born and raised in gaza. he wants to continue telling his stories of people there. he's grappling with the reality of keeping his family safe at the same time. this is his story. [speaking in a global language] [speaking in a global language]
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>> that last line from ibrahim, i hope one day we can return home. >> the most striking thing, and it's an extraordinary piece and we're grateful for it, is telling his son they don't hit hotels when his son asks. i think every parent can identify with that, but not so much in that acute of a situation. >> it's exactly the line that struck me most. we do want to tell you, of course, everyone at cnn is supporting ibrahim and his family any way we can. we are in constant contact with him and of course we will keep you posted as cnn's family
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♪ welcome back. i'm erin burnett live in tel aviv. president biden is preparing for a historic trip to israel and jordan. the president will land here in tell aviv tomorrow morning wher he is expected to meet with benjamin netanyahu. biden will then travel to jordan and there equally high stakes meeting with king and egyptian president. also the palestinian authority leader will be there. so that is going to be crucial as well. this is about gaza and humanitarian aid. it comes as we're getting our first look at weapons. i was there to look at some of these because they're going out everyday and gathering these. looking at entire container of grenades and large anti-tank mines. these are the things that they're finding littered all on that gaza border by those
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kibbutz which were attacked in the terror attack on saturday morning, phil and poppy. it's pretty incredible to see the size of the arsenal. we'll show you a lot more about it today. but these are weapons that a lots of handmade in gaza. they have the stamp of hamas on them. some of them from iran and weren't even used but those are coming in. you can see the manufacture date in iran, you can see everything from iran. and even some from north korea. so, it is all there. the evidence is there. and it's very much a scene in progress. because massive amounts of weaponry coming in that we were able to see, guys. and it comes in every single day. the large jeeps of hamas fighters. they have to debooby trap the bodies. they bring the bullet proof vests in, those hamas terrorists are dead. they deal with that. then they are bringing in all of this material. so, it is an incredibly huge
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c kache. >> you'll have a lot more on your show tonight. to say where they're manufactured with the date of when they were manufactured is quite something. we'll get back to you very soon. and as president biden heads to israel, the threat of escalation in the region obviously looms. in a phone call, iraq's prime minister told the president, quote, continued aggression in gaza stirs outrange people in the region and globally separately, iran's foreign minister called on israel to stop the bombardment on gaza the war to other fronts might be, quote, unavoidable, adding that time is running out for political solutions. >> conversations i had last night with several top u.s. officials, here is what they tell me. the u.s. wants humanitarian plans mostly or fully signed off and implemented before the start of any israeli ground incursion. hammered out over the course of seven and a half hours of intensive negotiations secretary of state antony blinken his team
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and their counterparts last night into tangible plan of action. they want it to be mostly teed up when the president arrives so he can get it over the finish line. but that is easier said than done. and it requires other parties to agree it to, not just israel. that is a critical opponent of the second stop in amman, jordan. joining us now bobby gauche and kate bedingfield. great to see you, gunings. the idea of the president going now, on the front end, the intent behind it? it's been interesting talking to u.s. officials about what they see as the why. what's your read on it? >> well, it's a very surprising move for the president to go in this early. and to your point, the president of the united states typically doesn't go -- doesn't travel until the outcomes of that visit have been pre-negotiated and guaranteed and baked in. there should traditionally be no room for surprises when the president is there. so, this deal that's been hammered out by blinken and his
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team has to be cast in stone. the last thing the president would want to happen on his watch while he's there is for israel to launch this big ground offensive without the humanitarian efforts already being in place. that would be embarrassing for the president. so he's taking a rick. when you're dealing with bb netanyahu, that is quite a risk because he -- netanyahu is known to sort of go off piece a little bit and do things on his own time line. and so the president is taking a big risk. to your other point, that there are other players involved, he's going to jordan. but egypt is going to be the big player here. that humanitarian corridor has to come through the south. and we have seen video earlier in the show of big convoys of humanitarian supplies waiting to go in. but the border is still really closed. and for all that israel and egypt are saying they want to allow this humanitarian effort to begin, it's been days now.
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and that effort is still not begun. that's something to be really concerned about. you have hundreds of thousands of palestinians from northern gaza fleeing to the south to a place where they have no water, they have no sort of reliable supplies of food, electricity. this is a whole other separate catastrophe that's breaking out before our very eyes. and the president going there at this moment has to take into account all these things that could go horribly wrong the middle of his trip. >> kate, with all of your experience working in the white house, as you balance delicate, delicate things and the risk that bobby just laid out, do you believe the white house has the degree of certainty that the president will leave with tangibles accomplished on the rafa crossing at the southern border and on how, as secretary blinken said so importantly, how israel does this matters? >> well, i think they feel confident that this is the kind of thing that president biden
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does best. he's obviously going to go, go and show an unprecedented display of support, but he's also going to help try to guide them in the right direction. hopefully there will be tangible accomplishments that come from this trip. but, over the long-term, what the president is doing is showing -- showing the durability of his belief that american alliances and that showing up and engaging on the world stage is the best way to move us away from hopefully a further spiraling conflict and also to ensure that the humanitarian plans are in place and that humanitarian aid can flow in an incredibly difficult situation. i travelled with president biden to israel both when he was vice president and president. and i can tell you that he and netanyahu have an incredibly direct and candid relationship. he will spend a lot of time on this trip listening but also again, being very forthcoming and direct in his advice. so, you know, for the president, we'll see whether there are
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tangible accomplishments that, yeah, he can walk away from this 24, 36, 48 hours and point to over the long term i think what he's showing is that american presence, american guidance is meaningful on the world stage. i think that's a function of his experience and his time dealing with these kinds of crises in office. he will hopefully help provide a steadying hand. as bobby said and you laid out, this isn't without risk. obviously this is a moment where he is inserting the united states into what is likely to be a protracted conflict and certainly risk comes with that. but, the calculation here is that his presence, his guidance and the full force of the united states can help move things in a productive direction. >> kate, you were there when the president had the surprise trip to kyiv. you were there in 2021 when he and his team worked with egyptian president el-sisi to secure the cease fire, were you surprised by this decision? >> you know, i actually really
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wasn't. you know, when i saw that they had begun discussing this idea, i knew the president would want to go in part because exactly as you said, i've seen up close how important it is to him to do face to face diplomacy. he truly believes at the end of the day, showing up, being able to talk face to face, being able to have those direct conversations where you can look someone in the eye, understand what they need and want and also tell them very directly what you, what the united states, needs and wants. you know, there's no -- he believes truly there's no -- there's no substitute for that. and so, you know, working on, for example, as you mentioned, working on the secret trip that he took to kyiv earli earlier this year, there were a lot of security risk. there was a lot of guy gans and suggestion offered to the president that maybe he shouldn't go. he felt incredibly strongly about the need to show up, to physically show support and engage. so, it actually -- you know, it does come with some risk. but that is -- this trip i should say does come with some
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risk. it didn't surprise me because i have seen how president biden chooses to act in these moments. he does not shy away from asserting american leadership. so it actually did not surprise me at all to be honest with you. >> bobby, he'll also face questions, no doubt, the administration already has, but he will there about what -- how far the u.s. is willing to go to try to free the americans believed held hostage, would that include, special forces, navy s.e.a.l.s. and refugees. chris christie saying we shouldn't and ron desantis saying, no, we shouldn't. >> marly the one with the hostages. he has expressed his feelings on this quite evocatively. the administration, everything we're hearing from the administration there will not be u.s. boots on the ground, but the u.s. will supply intelligence as best as they can gather. >> kirby didn't take it off the table when he talked to fox on sunday.
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>> he couldn't possibly. there's no way when there are american lives at risk, you're never going to say that americans will not be involved in that process. but, what the administration is briefing journalists, look, israelis know how to do this. we'll give them every assistance. if they can for american physical assistance, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it, but right now that's not what the israelis are asking for. but, yes, the president will have to have an answer ready for that. as for the hostages, you know, the -- as far as the refugees are concerned, you know, whether the u.s. will take some refugees is arguably a second ordered of problem. the scale of the refugee crisis is so big that the first order is whether they can go somewhere nearby first to get some safety, some -- get away from the bombs and get away from hamas. can they be put somewhere for temporary amount of time and have a further discussion of where can they go next?
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they can't go anywhere -- egypt will not take them on a permanent basis. if egypt does at all. so the questions about whether europe will take some of them or u.s. will take some of them, whether the arab states first and foremost will take some of them. those questions will come up but those are second-order problems. first and most critical one right now is how to get these people out of harm's way some place safe. >> bobby gauche, kate beddenfield, appreciate it. >> new drone video and what it shows is very difficult to see. that is a mass burial in gaza this morning. this is happening as we were just discussing president biden heads to israel. we will talk to one of israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu's senior advisers straight ahead.
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what i knew is that she's -- might be kidnapped. i'm begging the world to bring my baby back home. she only went to a party, a festival party to have some fun. and now she's in gaza. >> welcome back. i'm erin burnett live in tel aviv. that was karen shem, the mother of one of the hostages kidnapped by hamas. a young woman named mia. she was speaking out just a short time ago, pleading for her daughter's release after hamas released a hostage video of mia. yesterday i spoke with a man whose wife, his two young daughters and mother-in-law were all taken hostage. we have been speaking to him several times after he recognized his family in this viral video, his daughters, ages 2 and 4 now, huddled in the back of that truck. and he told me about the guilt,
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the guilt that he actually feels for not being able to rescue his family. >> you know, the worst thing as a father -- i have three girls, wife and two little babies is the guilt, is this guilt. why? why are you not coming to get us. i'm thinking about there if they're alive thinking, why is daddy not coming. and i can't -- i want to. i'm afraid that they will forget me. i'm afraid that they will not recognize me. for children, it's a day, it's like a month for us adults. >> i'm joined now by long-time confident and senior advise her to the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. i appreciate your time. sorry to be speaking to you
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under these circumstances. you heard yoni asher there. his entire life is gone and his home, his children's toys and pink monkey and there's no children. and how a person even can endure through such pain and fear and loss is incomprehensible. is there anything you're able to tell us, mark, now that there's been one hostage video, about your knowledge as to the safety of what you say are 199 hostages being held in gaza. >> so i think what we all can learn from this terrible, terrible, shocking story from that father, is we understand who we're up against. and when president biden and my prime minister talk about an isis-type terrorist group, it's not just words. this is the reality. they are brutal, inhumane killers who target the innocent. why on earth could anyone with any sense of humanity kidnap
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young infants, a 2-year-old and a 4-year-old? this is this has to outrage everybody. this isn't about israel and the palestinians. this is about humanity against people who are so barbaric in their behavior that they are, as president biden said, they are sheer evil. >> is there a way, mark, given as you say this is not about israel and the palestinians. obviously many around the world do see it as palestinians and israel. if it is not about that, israel and hamas and the people who perpetuated this barbaric, horrible crime, is there a way for you to defeat them without putting thousands and thousands of idf troops in gaza? >> so we might have to. my own daughter is being called up for national service. she's a reserve officer in the
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idf. he raced back. he was on holiday in europe and raced back to volunteer. her call-up notice came as she returned. she is like tens of thousands or more of young israelis who understand the threat we're facing. they have seen the bar barety of our opponent. they will risk their lives to protect our country. >> mark, we have met so many of them. and it is incredible their bravery. many who finished their reserve service still coming back in. when you say we might have to, is it still your goal of what seems to be heated negotiations now and the next few days that you could avoid such a ground incursion? >> i cannot -- i apologize, i cannot go into the israeli strategy ahead of time. we will surprise hamas in what we do. our goal is clear and it will be no wavering on this whatsoever. we will destroy hamas the way
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isis was destroyed in syria and iraq. we will crush their military machine. we will dismantle it and take apart their political structure. we didn't want this war. we didn't start this war. it was forced upon us. wu but we will finish this war with a new reality in gaza, a reality where gaza will no longer be this enclave run by a brutal terrorist organization. >> so mark, you talk about the humanitarian fears. we have a producer ibrahim who lives in gaza and has a 7 and 11-year-old child, trying to make way south. children looking out, bombs coming down, sounds, horror and fear. civilians are dying. are you committed, are you able to commit to there being real humanitarian relief coming in from gaza? and i separate that even from
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opening a border in a way that would allow people out because i understand that's a complex issue related but separate. are you able to commit to aid coming in? >> when i represent and we want that to happen, but i want to tell you two things that happened just while americans were asleep over the night. one, yesterday as cnn reported there were truckloads, tankers of petrol sent in for humanitarian reasons to help so there would be fuel for the generators in gaza's hospitals. we know for a fact -- and it was actually reported, that some of that fuel was stolen by hamas for their war machine. they are the people with guns. they are the people who have the power inside gaza and they have no qualms whatsoever about stealing materials that are meant for the innocent civilian population of gaza and siphoning it off for their war machine.
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that's what happened yesterday. so i think what we need to establish a hmechanism so there will be safeguards. there's no point the international community coming to support the people of gaza if it will be siffened away and taken by hamas. we agreed, arrangements were made for the exit yesterday of dual nationals, people with foreign passports. it was all agreed that they can leave and at the very last moment hamas blocked the rafah border crossing, as if to say we are holding these foreign nationals as hostages just as they're holding the 200 israelis, just as they're holding the civilian population of gaza as a human shield. maybe we shouldn't be surprised by hamas's behavior, the dual nationals or oil. that's who they are and that's the brutal enemy, we're up against. >> mark, regev, i appreciate your time. thank you very much.
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senior adviser to benjamin netanyahu. back to you. supreme court justice weighing in on ethics questions weighing in over the high court. we'll tell you what amy coney barrett had to say. jim jordan facing a deadline. he may not have the votes he needs. what does that mean for the upcoming house floor showdown today. stay with us.
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y. i met with jim for a half hour tonight. i'll have another meeting with him tomorrow. i told jim tonight i'm a no and look forward to our meeting tomorrow and answer some more questions. that was republican congressman ken buck telling cnn last night he is currently a no on jim jordan. but that could change his mind as the house votes today on jordan's bid to be the next speaker. could he? we have to see. jordan gained the support of several key republicans over the course of the last 36 hours, but as of now, according to our stellar capitol hill team, still
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short of the counts to win the gavel. he can only afford to lose four members of his conference. joining us now, anchor, john avlon and josh bare row who puts out the very serious newsletter and podcast. all right, josh barrow. i was surprised watching some of the flips toward the jordan column yesterday. there's an alliance of appropriation guys, defense guys who seem to be hard no's and move in that direction. do you think he gets over the finish line? >> i don't know. i think -- i don't think we're going to see the scenario that some people were thinking about where he might have as many people 50 voting no against him on the floor. kevin mccarthy was fairly close in january. still took him 15 votes to get all the way there. we have folks on the appropriations committee, involved in national defense policy in the house. they had specific asks. who knows what jim jordan is saying to them behind closed doors. it makes sense it's possible to get them over the hump because they have concerns about funding
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the government, about spending levels on defense and he can make promises about that and conceivably deliver on those promises. might be able to easily deliver on them like kevin mccarthy or steve scalise. he is out there saying he con intends to do other conditions. ken buck, very conservative, quite upset about jim jordan and steve scalise refusing to say that donald trump lost the election. miami florida area, they have particular political culture down there. might be more insulated from some of the national pressure that jim jordan can bring as a conservative. and so even if he's 11 votes short, 15 votes short on the floor, that's still short. >> john, you said the idea that jim jordan could get to 217 is in your words, should be absurd.
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>> yeah. >> but is it more -- if he gets there, is it more the moment than the man? this is a moment of global crisis and the house still has no speaker. >> it should not be because ultimately the man is the person who is going to lead this conference, this congress. the idea that jim jordan can somehow unify the republican conference and lead congress is a sick joke. i want to be really clear about that. this is somebody who directly implicated in the plot to overturn the election that led toon attack on the capitol. liz cheney said he was working with members of the trump administration to overturn the election which led to ta tack. on the day of the attack, she said you did this. this is someone who has one of the lowest legislative records of anyone in congress. in terms of passing legislation, let alone working across the aisle. someone who primarily described by john boehner as a legislative terrorist because he is focussed on destroying and taking things
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down rather than building up. the idea he's willing to make deals and open concessions is a sick joke. if republicans make this decision today because of fears that they look weak because they're divided, rather than any of the other members they could have put up, they will reap the whirlwind. >> i will at least confirm that i don't know that any of the 220 republicans figured jim jordan would be their speak they are year. >> for good reasons. >> he's a very close ally to the former president, now latching on to the global crisis that poppy referred to. with sentiments like this. take a listen. >> we aren't bringing in anyone from gaza, syria, somalia, lebanon or libya or anyone else that threatens our security. if you empathize with radical islamic terrorists or extremists, you're disqualified. you're disqualified. you want to abolish the state of israel, you're disqualified.
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>> it was part of the kind of reproposing of the travel ban which went for so well for them in the opening days in 2017 and yet politically was the hot button issue that his supporters glomed on to back them. it's disgusting politics and yet it is in trump's view effective politics. >> well, i don't think it's likely that we are going to take a substantial number of refugees related to this situation with israel. >> part of the reason why -- the idea of i'm going to implement a new travel ban -- >> right. >> for what? it's purely a talking point. not tied to any policy or reality. >> it's purely a talking point. i don't think that -- when we get into the presidential campaign if that is a key issue in the presidential campaign, that's going to be because of donald trump not because of jim jordan or anything that's happening in the house of representatives. >> right. but you heard -- you have seen multiple republican candidates jump on this issue. >> uh-huh. >> over the course of the last week or two. clearly they think something is there. >> no. i think they do.
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i think that you see also that in politics of europe and all around the world. there's a backlash related to migration and the situation at the border with the substantial number of people coming to the u.s. and making asylum claims. i think that -- the extent to which the former president may made hay in 2016, he is probably on stronger political ground to do it now. >> obviously the politics of immigration people say we want to have borders that are secure. but this is about anti-muslim fears, stoking those fires. >> which to phil's point, the supreme court knocked it down twice, the first attempt and the second attempt at the travel ban because of your point. >> this is play to the base politics. >> third time that a small sliver of it was upheld. >> that's right. this isn't about policy. this isn't about the supreme court. it's about play to the base politics. >> all right. josh barrow, john avlon, appreciate it. thank you. this morning the supreme court allowing the biden administration to continue regulating ghost guns, ordering
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two internet sellers of gun parts to comply with regulations. ghost guns are homemade weapons made from kits people buy online and assemble their own firearms. these weapons are untraceable because they don't have serial numbers. they attract people who cannot own legal firearm. last year the federal government required anyone buying the kits to undergo background checks and also required any gun parts to carry serial numbers. the supreme court's temporary order now allows the regulations to remain in effect while a legal challenge from a firearm manufacturers plays out in lower courts. amy coney barrett is the latest supreme court justice to address ethics concerns saying it would be, quote, good idea for all nine justices to adopt a formal code of conduct. her comments came during an appearance at the university of minnesota law school. >> do you favor of a code of conduct for supreme court justices? what benefits do you see that would provide? >> i think it would be a good idea for us to do it,
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particularly so that we can communicate to the public exactly what it is that we're doing. in a clearer way than perhaps we have been able to do so far. there's unanimity on all nine -- among all nine justices that we should and do hold ourselves to the highest standards -- highest ethical standards possible. >> that's significant, though, because she's talking about specific guidelines being a good idea. justices clarence thomas and samuel alito failed to report lavish trips and gifts. two or justices did not recuse themselves from cases involved penguin random house publishing despite making money from book deals with the same company. "cnn this morning" continues now. ♪ president biden is planning to make a historic wartime visit to israel on wednesday. >> this is a big win for israel. a real show of strength and
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solidarity. >> it makes me proud to see our president standing up to terror -- >> nobody wants war, but i think people are willing to accept war. >> it's the most sadness that gaza ever had. >> plan that will enable humanitarian aid to reach civilians in gaza and them alone. >> everyday the numbers of the missing, higher and higher and higher. >> so many people suffering, similar loss, similar questions, similar unknowns. >> i'm begging the world to bring my baby back home. >> israel would do all it can in order to release these prisoners. >> we still don't know the condition of those hostages. the president has made very clear that that is a top priority. ♪ good morning, everyone. i'm phil mattingly with poppy harlowneyork. erin burnett slooif in tel aviv israel. it is 7:00 a.m. here on the east coast. 2:00 p.m. in tel aviv where president biden will be heading for a high-stakes trip later
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