>> and thank you for watching the news tonight. laura coates live starts right now. laura, tough day in the news, a tense moment in the middle east, end of the story continues, i know you will be covering all the different angles of it on your show in the next hour. >> it is really unbelievable, abby, it seems like every single hour we are all waiting at the edge of our seats for what is coming next. we are waiting for all the answers. i know you brought a lot tonight, thank you so, much i will see right back here tomorrow. >> see you soon. >> a deadly blast in a hospital in gaza city the day before a presidential visit to israel. tonight, i'm laura coates live. >> so as you and i are having this conversation tonight, president joe biden is in the air right, now he is about to land in israel in the middle of fighting a war. this plan to stop it -- egyptian president in the

palestinian authority president has suddenly been canceled. canceled of course in the wake of yet another shocking tragedy. this time, a massive blast in the gaza hospital of all places, killing hundreds of people. now we are trying to get a straight answer as to who exactly is responsible. as you would, imagine the finger-pointing has begun and there is a whole lot at stake. now palestine officials blame this on the israeli airstrikes, but the israel defense forces have categorically, that is there, woods denied any involvement blaming what they call a failed rocket launch by the palestinian islamic jihad group, whose arrival enlisted group in gaza. now we are told by a spokesperson for the idf that they will release evidence of this being the rocket today claim and not all israeli airstrike. a spokesperson is hoping that they will see that very footage when they do release it and draw only one conclusion.

of course many of us wonder if consensus is even possible on days like this. with the american president on route, the u.s. working feverish lee to analyzed israeli intelligence to try to understand exactly what happened at the hospital. but the protesters who are on the ground, they are not waiting for some kind of military read out. or a bureaucratic process to play out. they are angry, and they have taken to the streets in jordan, in baghdad, tehran, and as the protests grow, so is the concern that this war could spread. now the stakes are increasing now for president biden. already high stakes diplomatic mission. frankly with all that is at stake, the real question tonight is can diplomacy even still work. if president biden is not to be the one who can possibly broker peace there, who will? which country will be able to?

what will be the cost of that. with me tonight, to people who are uniquely qualified to answer some of these questions. cnn's jerusalem correspondent hadas gold, and chief national security correspondent alex marquardt. now tonight, we also have some new and disturbing video shot inside the hospital after the explosion. i will warn you, it is graphic. it is also an important and sad reality of this war. >> the scene that is unfolding that looks truly chaotic as people as they see are screaming. a child there as well. cnn's nick robertson has our report from israel. nick, what is happening? >> laura, this is already a very contentious and absolutely horrific loss of life. palestinian health authority

officials say that hundreds of people have been killed. they say the people were sheltering in the grounds of the hospital when they say an israeli missile struck the hospital. now the idf, he defense forces say it wasn't one of their missiles. they say it was an errant rocket fired by islamic jihad, another one of the islamic groups like hamas inside of gaza. it was one of their missiles they say that was fired out of gaza but it got misdirected misfired and crashed and hit into the hospital. the loss of life they're quite staggering. so many people had gone to the hospital in gaza city seeking shelter, so many people moving out of the north of gaza to head to the south thinking that they would be safe in the hospital. of course this will have consequences for president biden's visit here.

-- in jordan and president -- from egypt was going to be there. palestinian authority president abbas was also going to be there. that meeting is now not going to happen. andy the palestinian authority president has called for three days of mourning here. president biden there for only meeting it seems that this time as far as we know with prime minister netanyahu, and other israeli leaders and a hugely important meeting for israel as president biden has been very outspoken in his support for israel and the fact he has said, israel has the right to self defense, the right to strike back at tomas. but in the environment right now with both sides having a different narrative, it is perceptions on the ground that are going to take over. the perceptions inside gaza tonight will be that this was an israeli missile, irrespective of the fact that

the idf is scouring instead of bases looking for evidence and information to support of the details that they are laying out that this was an errant rocket fired by islamic jihad. it is the perceptions that are going to make it so difficult for president biden to make any kind of broad diplomatic headway in the region at the moment. really stoking tensions across the region. again, because of those perceptions. it is really a time that is put this region on edge. >> nic robertson, thank you so much. here with me now cnn jerusalem correspondent hadas gold. also here, chief national security correspondent alexander marquardt. you know what we are seeing unfold in realtime, we don't have information as to who is responsible. there is competing statements that are being made, president biden is on route, we don't have all the answers. he won't touchdown likely with all the answers. when we look at the

intelligence that he's not looking to figure out whether israel's explanation of this and rocket is right, is truthful, what are you learning? >> well, you know, so much of the intelligence that comes out of gaza and is about hamas comes from the israelis to the americans. the americans have their own collection abilities as well. when we first learned about the strike, hamas was a very quick as you might expect to blame this on israel. it took a beat for israel to then turn around and say in fact this was an aunt rocket from palestinian islamic jihad and we are waiting and have been waiting for several hours now for them to present this evidence. what we do know is that israeli intelligence has sent some of what they have to bolster their case to american counterparts. specifically signals intelligence which meets intercepts. and then it can also include drone footage, those are two of the things the israelis have actually mentioned.

so this is something the u.s. intelligence is looking at right now, but they have not made any kind of decisive assessment as to whether they are saying -- the palestinian rocket is true. >> so hadas, it has been hours, there's a lot of, stick one would think you would want to get information out there right away, say this was not us, we did not do this, those hundreds of people who are dead, why is their delay? >> they want to have a complete lockdown at the information and we do expect the israelis to go public with this information potentially in the next few hours because they have to. morally they have, to but also on the international stage they, have to read even if this information comes out and the americans are convinced president biden is, convinced and even says i believe this was an errant rocket that caused this, the damage is already done. look at the media coverage over last few hours. look at what is happening on the streets in the cities all around the world. israelis are being warned to mediately leave places like

turkey. at this moment, if you are vacationing in turkey, get on a plane and get out now. so even if it turns out that the israelis are correct, president biden agrees with the assessment this was a rocket, the that much is, done we have seen a summit that has been canceled that was supposed to help with the humanitarian situation, president biden's trip has been changed dramatically, the damage for the israelis on the international state is -- >> so what is the intelligence they are looking for than? in terms of you personally, but with the president will look for to make these assessments because if the damage is done, and perception is king, what happens? >> well i completely agree first of all with hadas that the horse is -- there certainly a sense on the herbstreit that the israelis are responsible for this and there is probably no turning that back. what the americans will be looking at is the israelis are certainly offering up so we are hearing from the israelis again we haven't seen this yet that

they will offer before and after drone videos and images they will be offering intercepts that the claim show palestinians talking about how this was a palestinian islamic jihad. >> why would the before and after john videos be -- there not a realtime that is happening? where is the discrepancy? >> the u.s. intelligence community is not going to tell us exactly what they have right now with the at the israelis are saying is the before and afters are going to show that the impact on the hospital is not what you would expect from an israeli rocket. what we have heard earlier tonight from the idf, if this were an israeli rocket shot from one of their, planes you would see a lot more damage. what they are saying we will see in a couple hours time, is not that. but the u.s. is treading extremely carefully here. they want to make sure that they have their own assessment, with their own assets taken into consideration what the israelis, half but in no how has completely changed the game and has cut short of president

biden's trip, and we have seen these massive protests which in addition to what you are talking about in turkey, misstate portman tonight said that americans should not travel to lebanon. we saw huge protests outside the u.s. embassy in beirut. they have also said some american diplomatic families and nonessential staffers can go home. so the temperature is rising significantly, and we are watching very closely to see if because of this event, hunters the palestinians that whether that will cause other groups like hezbollah and lebanon to get involved. >> interesting that you say not americans can travel or shouldn't, go not just israelis. is the thought that president biden being in this area, if there are some blame attribution to the united states as well? and compromising safety? >> it is a huge show of support for the israelis. president biden is, showing up the first time an american president has landed on israeli soil during an active conflict or war that israel is engaging

in. so just his presence alone shows a huge amount of support. the fact that he's still choosing to land in israel despite some of the questions around what have been, despite the summit being, counseled it is still showing a huge amount of support. keep in mind the region is already boiling, as we have not even started this crown incursion yet. we do expect that there have been the region was already boiling imagine what happens when this is really boots on the ground. >> there is no israeli embassy in lebanon, the two countries are still officially at war. so what the lebanese are doing, and these protesters we thought, tonight they are directing their anger at the united states. that is what we are going to see more and more. the u.s. by its own admission, what we have heard is that they are showing their iron clad support for israel. so a lot of the blame, again from the arab street to use that term, is going to be directed at the innovative states. we heard from the pentagon today saying they will continue supplying israel with everything they need. so they're certainly going to be seen as an accomplice to

israel, and what israel is planning. next >> stick round both of you we will lean into your expertise and what you know about this area. i want to go now to cnn's nada bashir. she is live in amman, jordan. we are working through all of this, trying to figure out what is happening here. this tragedy has had both political, and social consequences. there is a very high stakes summit that was supposed to have been. it has now been canceled. there are protests. biden is now almost arriving in israel, bring it to what you are seeing? >> look, it is certainly high stakes over here. as you mention we have seen protests. this is not the first, time we have seen protests here in jordan almost on a daily basis since the outset of this war. in fact we have seen protests taking place across the middle east and across the globe. what we have seen last night's israel outpouring with outrage and condemnation across multiple arab nations.

people taking to the streets in hundreds with solidarity over the palestinian people, but also of course in opposition to israel's continued relentless bombardment of the gaza strip. now here in amman, we saw huge crowds turning up and heading towards the israeli embassy last night. some protesters even attempted to storm the israeli embassy at one point. you have to understand there is a huge focus on the palestinian issue here in jordan, of course a huge portion of the population are palestinian refugees, or descendants of palestinian refugees. i cannot overstate how significant and prevalent the palestinian cause is in the general psyche of the arab world, this is a huge issue for the air population, but of course it remains to be seen how that translates into action by arab leaders. we have seen protesters cross of the countries as, well lebanon as alex mentioned, tunisia, baghdad, we have seen people taken to the street and of course the occupied west

bank we saw a significant protest and even some clashes last night. of course what we have seen here in jordan's this is translated into having an impact on the political and diplomatic front that summit was said to be held tomorrow between king abdullah of jordan, president of egypt, the palestinian authority and -- of course the president joe biden and that summit has now been canceled. we heard from the jordanian foreign minister speaking yesterday he said the singular focus for jordan, for hosting the summit was to bring in and to the war, to bring or a sprite, relief, and humanitarian aid to palestinians in the besieged gaza strip. to bring an end to the suffering of the palestinian people have faced in more than a week now since it began. clearly they do not believe that the international partners naming the united states and israel are on the same page, in terms of that focus. as we continue to see that bombardment wrapping, up as we continue to see the civilian

death toll and caused the mounting to dizzying heights, and these horrific attacks across the gaza strip, we are going to continue to see these protesters take to the streets. >> nada bashir, thank you so much for bringing us the information we need. i appreciate it. i am back with my panel here. it occurs to me that when we are talking about all these different terms and players involved, the learning curve has been very steep for people who are not deeply knowledgeable about this region. it is difficult to scale, and then to know all the details. i just want to ask the very basic question here, how does the islamic jihad differ from hamas specifically in this conflict? >> so both are militant groups recognized as terrorist organizations. both are backed by iran. palestinian islamic jihad is more of a purely militant armed groups and hamas. you have to keep in mind, hamas was elected gaza after israel pulled out and is both operates gaza in terms of the government

in terms of the day-to-day life, and also is a militant -- islamic jihad is much more focused on just militant activity. they often act on their own, but they do often act in concert with hamas. there have been several conflicts between israel and specifically islamic jihad that have kept moss out of the situation. they have their own arsenal of rockets. also keep in mind, they say they are holding 30 of those israeli hostages. they are definitely a player in this. they're not the main player, they are definitely big player in this. >> alex, really quick, thinking about the fact that this team has been canceled, before we know all the information, before audiences are out there, what does that say about the willingness to have biden even president? >> well, it means that biden is probably going to leave the region with no real tangible results, with no deliverable. he will have gone there to israel and only to israel, and shown his support. but he likely won't be coming away with any kind of agreement in terms of the aid, how to get

aid into gaza, how to help the hundreds of thousands of people who have had to flee their homes, we don't have enough water, you don't have enough medicine who don't have fuel, they won't likely have established these safe zones within gaza, so that was what biden was trying to accomplish in jordan. so certainly it won't be nearly as much of a success as he had hoped as the white house had hoped. >> there's so much more information we need to, get you thank you, both stay around police. coming up with our two men who's been to the hospital where the blast actually have, been and knows people who work there. he says this is not the first time that it was actually hit what is supposed to be a place of healing.

>> there are now hundreds of people dead at a hospital in gaza update devastating blast that took place there. many of whom were -- already displaced by the violence in the area, and only

worsens the charm for the sick, and they will get inside of gaza, we have seen medical supplies have dwindled. i'm not joined by somebody has a personal connection to the hospital. mr. gregory trickle as the board chair of the american friends of the episcopal diocese of jerusalem. he supported -- the hospital for more than 30 years. the ship, thank you so much for being here this evening. you know, you know people who work at this hospital. have you've been in touch with anyone in the hours that have passed? >> yes. we were in touch with quite a few people early on. but in the last 24 to 48 hours, it has been very difficult to talk to anyone. we did reach -- who is the administrator of the hospital last night. we had a brief conversation with her. she was down near the rafah

border sheltering in place. and, since, then we have heard from no one else. but you are absolutely correct. this has been a horrific tragedy. and a day of mourning for me. i walk those halls in 2016, and new many of the people working their. they have always been heroes. they were being heroic in these last hour. and we have very little information just like you do. but we are hoping for the best. but looking at heavy images. >> you know, a hospital in any community serves a crucial purpose. but in this community in particular, it had an exponentially crucial impact. tell me about that. >> absolutely. you so widely said earlier that

so few people in the u.s. really understand this region. and it's difficult to understand. the gaza strip has 2 million people, and 2016 i was there and it actually hit that mark 2 million people living there. 2 million in a very tiny spot. they are very underserved medically, the hospital is known as the peoples hospital because it was completely open, no barriers, based on finance, is, faith, race on religion, anything. and it was a -- they were doing that even when this tragedy happened. shouldering people in the hospital. when i was there in 2016, it was something for me to learn that one of the greatest injuries in gaza are brains. mostly from cooking. people in gaza, electricity is

cut off on a regular basis every day. and cooking is done by cook stoves, camp stoves, and many times, especially children -- so people of all ages, do and when i was there i just saw literally hundreds of people in there who were burned. the other amazing thing, i was in 2016 to celebrate with them. getting a mammography machine, it was the only the second one in gaza for 2 million people. and breast cancer is highly prevalent in gaza, more than most places in the world. and so we were there to celebrate the second mammography unit in all of gaza. and looking at the horrific images they are showing, i

believe it is probably gone. so this hospital is vital to the northern part of gaza. and it is just devastating in so many ways. of course first and foremost, the loss of lives. the -- i knew and saw, and had unknown, they are no longer with us. and they are just absolute heroes. our organization, i do want to think the -- in our organization, we have raced almost $300,000 for the hospital since this war began. we will continue to do that, and continue to do everything we can to bring it back to service. >> bishop, thank you so much for giving that context and just thinking about what this hospital did, who it welcomed. i think for a lot of people in the country like ours, where we

are seeing the pink ribbons everywhere throughout our world. the second filmography machine, in a country or area that has 2 million people just thinking about the reach, and what could happen now. thank you so much. >> right. thank you very much. thank you. >> thank you. >> that context is so important to understand this region, and understand the devastation. we are talking about president biden summit with arab leaders was abruptly canceled just hours before he is set to land in israel. so what does -- the former national security adviser under president trump, think about all the prospects now for peace? that is next.

well, as president biden heads aboard air force one to israel, situation on the ground is getting more volatile. israel is facing protests in the west bank and across the neighboring countries, and outrage stemming from a deadly blast at a hospital in gaza, where hundreds of civilians were believed to be killed. i want to bring in former national security adviser, ambassador john bolton. thank you for joining. yes it's a very fluid situation that's unfolding before all of us. this hospital bombing happening on the eve of president biden's arrival, and again, there's a lot we don't know, but is this the kind of catastrophe that could upend all of biden's diplomatic efforts? >> well, i think as far as we can tell it is already part of

a first part of the palestine authority decided not to attend a previously scheduled meeting in amman jordan after president biden meets with the israelis, then the meeting itself was canceled, so it looks now as if biden will meet with israeli officials and then come back without the chance, at least for now, to talk to the arabs. there's a high-risk proposition and part of the high risk of him taking this trip, and at least that part of it has backfired already. >> on that point, that meeting with leaders of jordan and egypt and the palestinian authority, would have been quite crucial, trying to at least address if not try to begin to work out the humanitarian crisis that is continuing to unfold now that it's canceled. without that particular meeting, who has the power to broker peace in the region? >> well, i don't think anybody does. i think israel is going to respond to this terrorist attack, which they have every right to do. they don't have to respond in

an equal fashion. they don't have to live under the continuing threat of terror. they can eliminate the threat. that appears to be their stated objective. >> as you know, in gaza, humanitarian crisis. it is truly deteriorating by the day, really by the hour in some instances. civilians who are trapped. they've got no safe route. so many people are looking at this and wondering if civilian casualties can be avoided. >> i don't think they can be avoided. i think that's a great tragedy. it's too bad that egypt, which was sovereign over the gaza strip until the 1967 war, hasn't opened its borders so at least you could set up refugee camps in egyptian territory. they don't want the palestinians either because they understand that the dominance of hamas in gaza for 16 or 17 years would constitute a threat to egypt as well. >> so you think the reason they won't open their borders is because they would not be able

to discern a civilian from somebody who is part of hamas? >> sure. if you're a 15 year old kid you don't wear uniform, you could still wear a suicide vest. if you're a mother. terrorists don't come with the scarlet tea on their forehead. i think that the egyptians are very worried. i think, frankly, a lot of remaining high-ranking hamas officials still in gaza would love the borders to open so they can get away. >> of course hearing that, and just thinking about all the people that have been impacted, the children we are seeing, those who have been victims of hamas's attacks, of hamas is rain, really, in gaza and beyond, it is startling to think that there would be no way out based on that proposition. and i wanted this addressed because the idf is saying that when it comes to this hospital attack, islamic jihad is actually behind the hospital attack. whether this is true?

>> i think, the argument is that one of their rockets that hit this hospital, but there is no doubt it was hamas that carried out the bulk of the assault on october the 7th. therefore it is hamas that is responsible for starting. but there is a higher authority. and that is the government iran, which equipped and trained and financed hamas and hezbollah, while we're on it, and i think unmistakably directed this attack to occur. if you want somebody to take responsibility, i would look to the mullahs in tehran. >> when it comes to iran, we've heard from president biden, he has said there is no clear evidence at this point of iran behind the terror attacks. john kirby, admiral kirby said to reporters last week, we have not seen any specific evidence that iran was directly involved with the specific sets of attacks. the books not closed on it, he did say.

we are going to keep looking at that. but that's just where we are right now. really important to hear your insight today. thank you so much for taking the time, ambassador bolton. i appreciate it. >> glad to be with you. >> more perspective from cnn national security analyst beth sanner. also cnn military analyst james spider, marks has been over 30 years in the u.s. army. you saw him, ambassador bolton incredulously maybe chuckling at the idea of what admiral kirby and president biden said about not having specific evidence about iran. i wonder what your your reaction is more broadly, though, to what you are seeing right now, the attack on the hospital, the cancellation of the summit. what strikes you? >> well, i think that is ambassador bolton started off by saying, already this, a plan for this trip has fallen apart. biden had these objectives of

standing with israel, but also meeting with the arab leaders, the key arab leaders to start dealing with the humanitarian crisis. now that part is essentially off the table. so where we are right now is in a pretty terrible place because i think the geopolitics of this are just not really in our favor as we go forward, and we need to remember that yes, this is about israel, but it's also increasingly about u.s. interests if this were expands. this brings a cnn. we have our own interests that we have to worry about. >> and yet we know because of the canceled summit, i mean it probably will be some form of talks but the actual summit will be taking place, in this is on the backdrop now where the president is flying. you've got finger-pointing happening about who is responsible. how does this muddy the waters in terms of the military approach, the diplomatic efforts?

>> it really does, when you look at it, it muddies the waters. that's a descriptions incredibly appropriate. what we don't know, however, let's be clear, we don't know who conducted the strike at the hospital. that is still trying to be determined. israel has done an investigation and at the end of the day, if i had to listen to israel's explanation or hamas's explanation i would listen to israel. they have said that was done by the islamic jihad, or maybe the hamas, and maybe it was a miss spider misfire. israelis do not target hospitals. this is a professional military and they're going after military targets and also let's be clear there will be civilian casualties and this has always been a finger-pointing type of an engagement and the narrative is only going to get worse as it has every time that israel in gauges with the palestinians. in this particular particular case, hamas, not the palestinian people. the narrative will continue to

get worse for israel going forward, because they will continue going after legitimate threats and they will be casualties on the civilian side as a result. >> that's devastating to consider and you've talked about engagement, just to stick on this point, you are alluding to the rules of engagement. we are talking about a military operation. you know this better than i. do these rules apply in the wake of a terror attack? >> of course they do. the rules of engagement are always front and center. in every israeli unit, not dissimilar from the military that i grew up in, i had a lawyer next to me providing a priority what the decision criteria and engagement criteria was. so before we engaged with the target, whether you wanted to secure it or break it, lawyers were there telling you, i can defend the actions you're about to take. and they gave it limits. they gave you boundaries.

this is a professional force. will there be mistakes? of course. there are always mistakes, and there are sadly, tragically, there will be casualties, civilian casualties as a result. >> beth, when you look at this, in the intelligence aspect, you've got israel trying to convince the public that they were not the ones to have done this act, but also you've got the u.s.. you've got jordan. yvette egypt. you've got, likely, tehran and others looking at all of these things to see what they will say about all this. how does the intelligence come into play for you? >> well, at this point i think that it is almost to sideline, because the perception is the reality on the ground. and so i think the the united states could come out tomorrow and say oh, absolutely israel's right, this was a peach rocket that went off course. it's not an unbelievable idea, since they do that all the

time. but you've already had saudi arabia and uae publicly come out in condemning subtract and blame israel. you have al jazeera making that claim. you've got the arab street who's been fed this idea, and certainly in the moscow gonna be hearing this. they want to hear. this is reinforcing a narrative that is something that they have felt for many decades, that the palestinians are the aggrieved party. and so do we are pushing again something that has been unleashed. we need to understand what a potential watershed moment this is. the next 24 to 48 hours are going to tell us whether the west bank is going to explode, where there has below decides to remain restrained, whether the arab populations push these countries and these actors into actions that they don't necessarily want.

i personally do not believe that iran wants a full up war with the united states. so we are getting to the point now where people feel, leaders feel that they may have to act in order to stand up against israel for these grievances that we're seeing erupt on the ground. >> i know our time is limited, but if you address this, as well, iran comes up, obviously, i'm a conversation around hamas, and they have said that they did not specifically engage in the attack on october 7th. >> of course they. did >> they have said this. >> of course they did. >> absolutely they were involved. >> even without having the concrete evidence the president biden alluded to? >> of course. if we've learned in our world intelligence community, and i'll paraphrase, it inartfully i'm sure, but iran is willing to die, iran will stand up as

long as hamas and hezbollah are willing to die for them. this is the narrative that is in place. this is the arrangement that is in place. they want, iran wants this conflagration for the very reason that bat described. the arab street is enraged. the vitriol will increase as israel increases and starts to begin its ground sort it will accelerate and we will absolutely expect that. which is important. it's incredibly important for the president to be there and say look, we've got to try to moderate as best we can, but we're not gonna get in the way of israel's right to defend itself and to take out as much of hamas is it can. but the problem with that, hamas is an idea. how do you live in a ton idea? if you eliminated all the command control element within hamas over the course of the next 96 hours, wonderful. there are some 12 year old boy who lost his father or his uncle, who's gonna grow up, hamas will be regenerated at some point. we need to understand that.

there's got to be some discussion about what happens >> absolutely, but if we do not figure out how to relieve the agony of the palestinian civilians in this, we are not going to be winning at all in terms of this battle. we could lose the war when it comes to geopolitics and influence. >> the fight is not against the palestinians. >> right, a really important point obviously. you have moved the needle forward with the information, and for that i appreciate you both. thank you so much. well, here at home, congressman jim jordan is desperately trying to rein in his conference for the next vote for speaker of the house. he has got until tomorrow, about 12 hours from now at 11 a.m..

>> republican congressman jim jordan failing to get enough votes to win the speakership today, but the ohio republican securing it 200 votes falling short of the 217. and to add insult to injury, 20 republicans voted against, him which he only had four he could actually lose. joining me now to discuss, a former republican congressman charlie dent of pennsylvania. glad you are here. so take me behind the scenes here. everyone has been wondering how he is able to close the gap on friday -- but still falling short. >> tonight we have another vote, and jim jordan of will probably lead more support tomorrow. some people commented to vote

on the first, but necessarily the second. i think they are anticipating that this would be much closer than it was. this is the revenge of the appropriators, and chair of the appropriation committee -- voted against jim jordan as did several members of the new york delegation and this opposition has spread throughout the country, and many had different reasons. so i think jim jordan bid for the speakership is in deep trouble. i think right now they are talking about empowering speaker -- on a longer term basis. i think that is the plan me that you could see something quickly after the second vote tomorrow. >> through the november 17th likely? >> i think it is unclear how long they would want mchenry to serve, i think at least in the 17, but i think that is the plan be that is actually being discussed. >> so what is it going to take for him to be able to close that, gap is less than 24, hours by the way the pressure is on given the president is

heading to israel and we do need a speaker of the house. >> i tell you what, there is one big problem i think jordan, has many of his allies are applying pressure tactics and that seems to be backfired. using these outside groups using these the balance of the world, to try and intimidate through their voices, these members who have reasons to feel the way they did. this is not helping jim jordan's cause. this is an inside family fight. when you bring in insiders, it really antagonizes folks. i have been hearing some pretty nasty stories about the threats, implicit threats, moreover -- so i think those jordan speaker bid is probably going to end tomorrow. >> less than 12 hours away, now thank you so much for being here. we have a lot more. our continuing live coverage between israel and hamas, that

is coming up.

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