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israel says it has proof that it was not responsible, that it wasn't from an air strike. they have some recordings that have been put out of what they say is islamic jihadists who accidentally misfired and their rocket hit the hospital. let us now go to katelyn collins who is following all of this and the president's visit. katelyn, you look at what is happening right now and the situation that we're in. this is probably, except for october 7th, the most tense it has been here in this country because of that attack or that misfire, whichever one it is, on the hospital. has heightened tensions and now the president of the united states is here. how is he responding to all of this, and how is he treating israel as he is going to be standing side by side with the prime minister? >> yeah. and that looms over this entire visit, and it was something that
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the white house was dealing with as his plane was preparing to take off from right outside washington yesterday and it's something that he's been asked about essentially in every stop of hiss visit that was cut shorter, and he will come behind me and make remarks and that will be the culmination of president biden's time here in tel aviv. it started out in that one-on-one with prime minister netanyahu earlier this morning and that is where he embraced those denials by israel saying that they were not responsible for that explosion in the hospital in gaza city, and instead just a few moments ago president biden said that it was analysis and data from his own pentagon that he was using and that it was part of his assertion that he did not believe that israel was behind it. israel has forcefully denied that. authorities, palestinian authorities have said that they do believe the idf is behind it. they said it was not them. it was not the only factor in this entire trip and one big
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question that still remains is whether or not that humanitarian aid is going to get into gaza, to those civilians who are still there and have not been able to get all of that and have seen no power, no electricity, no internet for the last several days. that is going to be a big question for president biden when he comes out here. it's something that his secretary of state has been working on, and going back and forth in the last several days and he's in the room and has been in these meetings with president biden and so that will be a big question as he comes into this room. i should note, sitting behind me are several of the first responders from that day and several of the families of the victims and the families of the hostages that were taken and captured by hamas. that has probably been the most somber part of the presidents' day when he was in the room with them here, and of course, that is a moment where he talked with them and he shared some irish poetry with them and that is part of what he's going to address when he comes out here in just a few moments.
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>> one of the things that is happening, of course, is everyone is taking to their sides as happens in this conflict more perhaps than we've seen anywhere in the world and you do have information that has come out any there are people questioning israel when it comes to whether or not they were involved in the attack partly because of what the p.m.'s office put out about those babies that they said were beheaded which turned out that you do not have proof of, and now you have hamas that has said things that are not true, blaming israel for this and the rest of the world blaming israel when it has evidence against it. how does president biden thread this needle? because he's got to be able for humanitarian purposes, to talk with, for example, the palestinian authority, to try and get some support from places like jordan, the king of jordan, in order to try to make this happen. how is he trying to do that? is he having those conversations behind the scenes, as well? i know you're very plugged in,
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cai kaitlan. >> it's been very difficult. because having him face to face is much different than having a phone call. that's what he's expected to do here is have the phone call with the president of egypt instead of meeting with him in person, and initially officials have not denied that and that obviously is a setback and that is something that they wanted to have that meeting happen in person and that's another big question here which is on the way here the white house said that biden would have tough questions for netanyahu about what is next for israel and if there is that ground invasion for gaza, what does that look like? what are the objectives and what is israel going to do in the aftermath of that? who is going to be in charge of gaza if they do eradicate the leaders of hamas as they've said many times is their goal. there are still many questions about the future of this conflict and what that looks like and having those difficult conversations with a lot of these arab leaders who have said
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they don't believe necessarily israel's denials about being involved in the explosion of the hospital in gaza city. it is only adding to the complications of an already challenging visit. it certainly is a needle that does have to be thread as you were stating there, sara. that is a big question for how that's handled and what those conversations look like going forward because, obviously, it is something egypt has to be a part of. >> yeah. the diplomacy here is very difficult, very intricate and very complicated. kaitlan, stay with us for when president biden will show up there and make remarks. i think you said these are his last remarks that we will hear from him while he's in tel aviv. i want to go to clarissa ward watching this, as well. you and i both have been in gaza several times. can you describe the people who really don't know what it is like on the ground there, just how congested and just how
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filled that small space is, 139 square miles, just how small it is and how difficult it is, for example, for the civilians on a regular day, not during a time of war. >> well, sara, if you've been to gaza, as you have during times of intense bombardment, it is tr truly terrifying. there is a lot of chaos. there is a lot of confusion and a lot of panic. you see people running around trying to get to safety and not knowing where the safety is and in the case of the al ahli hospital it was clear that hundreds thought that that would be a safe place to go to. it is worth mentioning that al ali is in the northern part of gaza and that is the area that they had asked people to leave and evacuate from on friday and we kept hearing from people we've spoken to, how can we
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leave our home and go to the south when there were strikes close to the rafah border crossing yesterday. there were strikes in khan younis and it was rapidly spiralling out of control and each in the south where people were urged to move to, no electricity, no water and very, very little food and the u.n. warning there are four or five days' worth of food left in stores, and so you have an almost paralysis whereby people just don't know what to do and it's always in those situations where civilians suffer the most, where they bear the brunt of the actions of both sides and it's always in those situations when it is most challenging to try to forge a path toward some kind of respite or refuge for them. >> clarissa, i am so sorry to interrupt you, but the president of the united states is now talking.
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>> -- will not let you ever be alone. most importantly, the -- i know the recent terrorist assault on the people of this nation has left a deep, deep wound. more than 1,300 innocent israelis killed including at least 31 american citizens by the terrorist group hamas. hundreds, hundreds of young people at a music festival. the festival was for peace, for peace, gunned down as they ran for their lives. scores of innocents from infants to elderly grandparents and israelis and americans taken hostage. earn which are slaughtered, babies are slaughtered and entire families massacred, raped, beheadings, bodies burned alive. hamas has committed atrocities that recall the worst ravages of isis unleashing pure, unadulterated evil upon the
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world. there's no rationalizing it, no excusing it. period. the brutality we saw would have cut deep anywhere in the world, but it cuts deeper here in israel. october 7th which was a sacred jewish holiday became the deadliest since the holocaust, it has brought to the surface painful memories and scars left by millenia anti-semitism and genocide of the jewish people. the world watched then. knew, and the world did nothing. we will not stand by and do nothing again. not today, not tomorrow, not ever. to those who are living in limbo waiting desperately to learn the fate of a loved one especially to families of the hostages, you are not alone. ng with partners throughout the region pursuing every avenue to bring home those
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who are being held captive by hamas. i can't speak publicly about all of the details, but let me assure you, for me, as the american president, there's no higher priority than the release and safe return of all these hostages. to those who are grieving a child, a parent, a house, a sibling, a friend, i know it feels like a plaqublack hole in middle of your check and you feel like you're sucked into it and it angers and the questions in your soul staring at that empty chair in shiva, the first sabbath without them. the everyday things and the small things that you miss the most. the scent when you open the closet door. the morning coffee you shared together, the bend of the smile and the perfect pitch of a laugh, the giggle of your little boy, the baby. for those that have lost loved ones, this is what i know,
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they'll never be truly gone. there's something that's never fully lost. your love for them, and their love for you, and i promise you to be walking along some day and say what would she or he want me to do? you smile when you pass a place that reminds you of them. that's when you know, when a smile comes to your lips before a tear to your eye, that's when you know you will fully make it. that's what will give you the fortitude to find light in the darkest hours. terrorists believe they could bring down -- bring you down, bend your will, break your resolve, but they never did and they never will. instead, we saw incredible stories of heroism and courage. israelis taking care of one another, neighbors forming watch groups to protection their kibbutz, opening their homes to shelter survivors. retired soldiers running into danger once again, civilian
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medics flying rescue missions and off-duty medics at the music festival caring for the wounded before becoming a victim themselves. volunteers retrieving bodies of the dead so families could bury their loved ones in accordance with jewish tradition. reservists leaving behind their families, their honeymoons, their studies abroad without hesitation and so much more. the state of israel was born to be a safe place for the jewish people of the world, and that's why it was born. long said if israel didn't exist we'd have to invent it. while may not feel that way today, israel must again be a safe place for the jewish people, and i promise you, we will do everything in our power to make sure it will be. 75 years ago, just 11 minutes
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after its founding, president harry s. truman and the united states of america became the first nation to recognize israel. we've stood by her side ever since. we will stand by your side now. my administration was in close touch with your leadership from the first moments of this attack. we will make sure we have -- you have what you need to protect your people and to defend your nation. for decades, we've ensuredes rail's qualitative, military edge and later this week i'll ask the united states congress for an unprecedented support package for israel's defense. bee will keep iron dome fully supplied so it can stand over israeli skies, saving israeli lives. we moved u.s. military assets to the region including the position of the "uss ford" carrier strike group in the eastern mediterranean with the "uss eisenhower" on the way to
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deter further aggression against israel and to prevent this conflict from spreading. the world will know that israel is stronger than ever, and my message to any state or any other hostile actor thinking about attacking israel remains the same as it was a week ago. don't. don't. don't. since this terrorist attack took place we've seen it described as israel's 9/11. for a nation the size of israel, it is like 15 n9/11s. the scale may be different, but i'm sure those horrors have set a primal fear in israel just like it did and felt in the united states, shock, pain, rage, and an all-consuming rage. i understand and many americans understand. you can't look at what has happened here, to your mothers,
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your fathers, your grand parents, sons, daughters, children, even babies and not scream out for justice. justice must be done. but i caution this while you feel that rage, don't be consumed by it. after 9/11, we were enraged in the united states. while we sought justice and got justice, we also made mistakes. i'm the first u.s. president to visit israel in a time of war. i made wartime decisions. i know the choices are never clear or easy for the leadership. there's always cost, but it requires being deliberate. it requires asking very hard questions. it requires clarity about the objectives and an honest assessment about whether the path you're on will achieve those objectives. the vast majority of palestinians are not hamas. hamas does not represent the
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palestinian people. hamas uses innocents, innocent families in gaza as human shields, putting their command centers, their weapons and the communications tunnels and residential areas. the palestinian people are suffering greatly, as well. we mourn the loss of innocent palestinian lives like the entire world. i was outraged and saddened by the enormous loss of life in the hospital yesterday in gaza. based on the information we've seen today, it appears the result of an errant rocket fire by a terrorist group in gaza. the united states unequivocally stands for the protection of civilian life during conflict, and i grieve, i truly grieve for the families who were killed or wounded by this tragedy. people of gaza need food, water, medicine, shelter. today i ask the israeli cabinet who i met with for some time this morning to agree to the delivery of life-saving humanitarian assistance to
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civilians in gaza based on the understanding that there will be inspections, and that the aid should go to civilians and not to hamas. israel agreed the humanitarian assistance can begin to move from egypt to gaza. let me be clear, if hamas diverts or steals the assistance they will have demonstrated once again that they have no concern for the welfare of the palestinian people, and it will end. as a practical matter it will stop the international community from being able to provide this aid. we're working in close cooperation with the government of egypt, the united nations and its agencies like the food program and partners in the region to get trucks across the border as soon as possible. separately, i ask israel that the global community demand that the international red cross be able to visit hostages. i just demanded that the united states fully ad, a just demand t
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the u.s. supports. i ask for humanitarian assistance in both gaza and the west bank. this money will support more than 1 million in conflict affected palestinians including emergency needs in gaza. you are a jewish state. you are a jewish state, but you are also a democracy. like the united states, you don't live by the rules of terrorists. you live by the rule of law. when conflicts fare, you live by the law of wars. what sets us apart from the terrorists is we believe in the fundamental dignity of every human life, israeli, palestinian, arab, jew, muslim, christian, everyone, and you can't give up what makes you who you are. if you give that up then the terrorists win, and we can never let them win. you know, israel's america, a
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triumph of faith and resolve and resilience over impossible pain and loss. think about october 7th, the jewish holiday, where you read about the death of moses, a tragic story of a profound loss to an entire nation. a death that could have left hopelessness in the hearts of the entire nation, but though moses died, his memory, his message and lessons have lived on in generations of the you earn people as well as many others and just as a member of your loved ones will live on, as well. after reading the story of moses' death, those that observe the holiday began reading the torah from the very beginning, the story of creation, reminds us of two things. first, that when we get knocked down we get back up again and we begin anew, and second when we are faced with tragedy and loss, we must go back to the beginning
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and remember who we are. we are all human beings created in the image of god with dignity, humanity and purpose. in the darkness to be the light into the world is what we are about. you inspire hope and light of so many around the world. that's what the terrorists seek to destroy. that's what they seek to destroy because they live in darkness, but not you, not israel. nations of conscience like the united states and israel are not measured solely by the example of power. we are measured by the power of our example and that's why as hard as it is we must keep pursuing peace. we must keep pursuing a path so that israel and the palestinian people can both live safely and securely in dignity and in peace. for me, that means a two-state solution. we must keep working for
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israel's greater integration with its neighbors. these attacks have only strengthened by will and determination and my will to get that done. i am here on tell you that the terrorists will not win. f freedom will win. so let me end where i began. israel, you are not alone. the united states stands with you. i told the story before and i'll tell it again of my first meeting with the prime minister 50 years ago as a young senator. i was sitting with golda meir at her desk in her office and she had a guy who was prime minister sitting next to me just before the 1973 yom kippur war and she flipped the maps up and down telling me how bad things were and how terrible they were. all of a sudden she looked at me and said, i looked at her and she got up from her desk and walked out into the hallway, i
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think it was marble flooring, walked down the hallway and walked down and there were a bunch of photographers standing in front of us, we were standing shoulder to shoulder and without her being looking at me she said to me knowing i would hear her, why do you look so worried, senator biden? and i said, worried? of course, i'm worried. she looked at me and she didn't look. she said, don't worry, senator. we israelis have a secret weapon. we have nowhere else to go. well, today i say to all of israel, the united states isn't going anywhere either. we will stand with you. we will walk beside you in those dark days. we will walk beside you in the good days to come and they will come. as you say in hebrew which i'm not going to attempt to do because i'm such a terrible linguist i'll say in english. the people of israel live.
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the people of israel live. israel will be safe, secure, jewish and democratic state, today, tomorrow and forever. may god protect all those who work for peace. god save those who are still in harm's way. thank you very much. >> mr. president, what is -- >> all right. you are -- have just been listening to president biden here in israel in tel aviv talking about many different things. number one, that he supports unequivocally israel after that attack on october 7th and talked about his long history with supporting this country all of the way back to the 1970s right before the yom kippur war talking to golda meir who was the prime minister at the time, by the way, the timing of that and the time of this almost
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exactly the same, the anniversary of the yom kippur war october 7th when the attack happened here that has really changed this nation and changed its position as well as changed what it is willing to do to hamas in gaza. they are trying to, as all of the israeli officials have said, rid all of gaza of hamas. i want to bring in our kaitlan collins who was standing by and was in the room and our david chalian and our clarissa ward who is here also in israel with us. kaitlan, i'll go to you first. what stood out to you in hearing from the president. this was another unequivocal support of israel from the president of the united states. >> yeah. he loves telling that story there at the end. it was his first time in israel, 1972, one year before the 1973 yom kippur war. it had this lasting effect on
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him. he untalks about sitting down with golda meir when she was prime minister of israel. obviously, things are very different thing now. here he is returning as president of the united states and israel is at war and he's the first u.s. president to visit israel when it is at war, something that prime minister netanyahu noted earlier today, but as the president came out here today, sara, he did make news. he said israel has agreed to an agreement to allow humanitarian aid in through gaza to egypt and that has been held up for more than a week now despite international talks to create some kind of channel to allow that aid in. you've heard egyptian officials waiting at the rafah crossing and that is the only way to get through gaza to egypt waiting to get in and has been held up. they have plblamed israelis and they've pushed back. the timing is he does not know when that aid will flow into gaza, and there is an agreement and the u.s. will provide th$10
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million to gaza and the west bank. one thing we asked president biden at the end, he expressed solidarity with israel once again which was something his staff previewed on the way over here which was tough questions they said he was going to have for the prime minister, and when you talk to officials about what those tough questions could be, they referenced what's next here, if israel does go into gaza, if there is that ground invasion, what does the timing of that look like? what is the objective of that and what happens after it's over? you heard prime minister netanyahu warning, a long road to victory was the phrase he used and the question is how long and what it looks like after that. president biden left the room, and he did not answer that question. he did issue another warning, though, about one of his main concerns and one of the biggest things that i've heard from officials that i've spoken to in recent days is the idea that this could escalate into a
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broader regional conflict and that's something that has become more illuminated over the last 24 hours since the hospital was hit. i do want to note, earlier today the president said he did not believe it was israel of that hospital in gaza. he said it was someone from the other team. here he said he clarified based on when he has heard and what he has seen it was an errant rocket from a palestinian terrorist group. so that is an update there and a clarification there from his earlier remark that was not very clear to what he believes it is. >> and that terrorist group that he is referring to, israel said is islamic jihad, not hamas, and another group there that does not believe in the existence of israel itself. thank you, kaitlan for that, stick with us. i will go now to david chalian. can you tell us about significance that during an officially declared war that the president of the united states came into this country trying to
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get some humanitarian work done, coming to show solidarity, but just a significance of him being here as we have seen rockets coming into this country every single day and night throughout. meantime, there are explosions going on in gaza at the same time and a huge humanitarian crisis going on there. what's the significance of him being here now? >> well, sara, you saw the president himself highlighted that he was the first president to visit israel in a time of war. he wanted to make sure everybody understood that it is, indeed, a significant move, and i think it was so clear what he was doing throughout his remarks. the whole first half as you and kaitlan were discussing was the complete repetition of that total solidarity with israel, standing side by side in total support of israel, and i think when you talk to folks around the president, what they believe that position does is allow him to go into the second half of
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his remarks which was to call on the better angels and the humanitarian sympathies of the people of israel and not to get too consumed by their passions and anger in response to the terrorist attacks and that they keep in mind who they are as a people as he was trying to express the need for humanitarian assistance, for the ability for israel -- by urging some restraint. i think when you look at the remarks and how they were structured you see a president of the united states doing that very thing we've been talking about which is threading a needle here. obviously, time will tell, the future will only tell us if that is successful, but it's clear that's what the objective was in his visit and putting a button on the visit with these remarks.
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>> yeah. diplomacy is of the utmost importance here, but very, very difficult to actually, as you put it, thread that needle. i want to go now to clarissa ward who is here with me in israel. i am curious from your perspective after hearing what you did about the humanitarian breakthrough. hopefully it has not happened and gaza by the hour is getting more and more desperate for the civilians there. how do you think the arab world, you know, jordan, people in jordan, people who are protesting right now in beirut and the response in the west bank, how they're going to react to hearing the president's comments from tel aviv today? >> i think the reactions will not be positive. this will be seen as a full-throated endorsement of israel and of israel's
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comportment over the last days that they have denounced. i think they'll talk about what wasn't said. there was no call are if restraint. there was no call for a cease-fire. it's important to remind viewers that the leaders of these arab countries have many young people who are now impassioned and outraged and upset and are taking to the streets, and so they have to be seen as taking a hard stance, as palestinian people, they are also trying just like president biden to thread the needle, if you will. he did say, as you mentioned that there has been some agreement on the israeli side to allow the passage of aid into gaza with the proviso that hamas does not divert that aid, but he also said he hoped that would happen as soon as possible with no real clarity or sense of when that might be, and i agree with david that he did issue, as
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well, some gentle warnings to israel offer the first half of the speech which was this remarkable display of solidarity with israel when he said we have felt that rage from 9/11, and we have learned from mistakes after 9/11. i believe his quote is while you feel that rage don't be consumed about it and make sure you have clarity about your objectives. that is obviously urging israel's leaders to think very strategically and very clearly about what comes next. everybody has been waiting for quite some time now for this much-anticipated ground invasion. there are very real questions, i think, being asked by world leaders from many different countries about what that looks like, what the tangible result would be of that. the israelis have said they want to essentially dismantle and uproot hamas once and for all, but still questions remain.
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how do you go about doing that? who steps in to fill the void afterwardses? we have heard previously, president biden say in an interview on "60 minutes" that he does not think it would be a good idea for israel to re-o pie gaza, and i think a subtle warning that now is also a time to take a deep breath and think very, very clearly about what the next moves might be and what the ramifications of those might be and also a very stern warning presumably to iran, to hezbollah and others in the region who might be watching this moment, he said who might be thinking of attacking israel, he said, quote, don't, don't, don't, sara. >> yeah. incredible salient points from you, there, clarissa ward in c ashkelon and kaitlan collins and david chalian.
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there was this hospital that took damage yesterday, an explosion at a hospital inside gaza right here. the idf, the israel defense forces, released evidence overnight that they say proves that this explosion was the result of an errant rocket fired by islamic jihad, that is a terror group that operates within gaza. this is some video of the explosion. part of the intel, and i should say that lieutenant general mark hertling is with us right now, part of the intel released by the idf was an audio recording that they say was between hamas operatives. we can't independently verify the authenticity of this, but they say this was the conversation immediately after this alleged rocket hit right there. we will play this and show you the transcript full right now. let's listen. [ speaking in global language ]
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>> and that's a portion of what idf has released of what they say is an intercepted, obviously, communication between two hamas operatives. general, what do you read from that? what do you take from that? what does it mean? >> it is another indicator, kate and john. it is what is called signals intelligence. when you are in combat you have listening posts and you have capability to read the enemy's mail, if you will. so in this case, what we are hearing is a signal's intelligence allegedly. it could be manipulated, and there could be fake, artificial intelligence, but it appears that this is really a hamas operative looking at where the missile strike. you combine that from other things that we talked about and the overhead imagery and the films, the destruction in the parking lot, the explosion of this whatever it was in the
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parking lot with a big ball of flame. the potential that president biden has alluded to that he's seen other intelligence from the u.s. department that we would call potentially masant and satellite indicators and it appears and the president was not specific on this, he said all indicators pointed to this and he wasn't definitive. i can understand that as a commander on the ground you never want to say unless you put someone there any you do the crater analysis and you see pieces of what landed at this location. until you have the entire intelligence factor all put together you can't definitively say who did it, but what is happening right now is it's attempting to kind of push back on what happened immediately after by the hamas ministry of health. >> if that is, frankly, possible at this point. how quickly that information spread. let's go piece by piece by this evidence provided initially by
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the idf and the israel defense forces. this is radar trajectory. explain what they show. >> this is tactical level intelligence and this came probably from something called the q36 radar which measures rockets departing a point of origin and going toward a point of impact. the israelis need this because the iron dome somewhere along this trajectory will pick up whether or not a rocket is going to hit a target and then they shoot it down. if it's going to land in a field somewhere they'll leave it alone, but in this case that was on a path of one of those trajectories and it appears like, from other film that reenforces this that a rocket fell out of the sky. >> add now this piece into it when you talk. i'm going to go straight to the video because this is interesting. it's what you see from your perspective and also your experience and also what you don't see. what stands out to you? >> i'm not a bomb analyst, kate, but what i will say is you see a
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lot of burned vehicles. if this was an explosion, a massive explosion like what would be a bomb off of a jet those cars would be all over the place and what you see instead is a lot of burned cars in place with some movements and you also see in part of the film if it transcribes over you see cars that are not burned close by. so it appears like there was -- yeah. so here's the point of what it appears to be the impact. over here, these cars aren't touched. they're not burned at all. glasses are broken and the windows are crashed in, but it doesn't have the impact that you see here and again, here's the hospital and what you see on the hospital are just pock marcks o the side of the walls and windows blown off and here is the impact that was probably forceful, but not the kind of blast that you would get from a 500-pound bomb that would level a building.
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>> general mark hertling, thank you for rushing up here and helping us understand and the audio recording we've had are some time and we were able to play it now and thank you for helping us understand. >> let's get back over to sara in tel aviv. sara? >> all r wh me is heinrich, a spokesperson for the israeli prime minister's office. thank you for being here. there are lots of questions that we want to ask you. first and foremost, the humanitarian crisis that is taking part happening right now in gaza, president biden spoke about a breakthrough. can you give us any information from the israeli side? look, israel has decided they are going to do some kind of a corridor where there will be a cease-fire. what is the latest? >> glad to see you, sara. israel will not allow into gaza any humanitarian aid through the israeli territory, not as long as we want our hostages back. the sons and daughters and elderly who were abducted into
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gaza. we want to see them back and that's a condition that has to be met for humanitarian aid to enter from the israeli territory, you know, moving ahead, but given the u.s. request, i can tell you that it is confirmed that we are discussing certain guarantees that are essential. humanitarian aid will make its way from egypt into gaza and we're talking about food and medical supplies and water. so we do want to see humanitarian aid coming in just like the u.s. president stated today. it's important to us that the civilians in gaza will not be harmed. we don't want civilians in harm's way. we don't want to see civilians caught in the cross fire between us and hamas, but we are there to dismantle hamas. as you know, we are not in it right now to deter hamas or contain hamas or anything like that. we want to hit them very hard.
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they cannot get away with what they did to israel and simply not and one of the top priority is that we will get our sons and daughters back. 200. >> i want to be clear, is this a deal has been done and will there a humanitarian corridor and there will be no, for example, air strikes in the area from the rafah border to try to let in food, water and medical supplies? >> it is in discussion right now, but again, another condition is that this humanitarian aid that will go from egypt through gaza will not end up in the hands of hamas. this has to be guaranteed because you know, just like the international coalition to defeat isis has not provided isis with fuels and medical supplies and water. we do not want this humanitarian aid to end up in the hands of hamas and be repurposed to the war machine against us. it is very important. just a few days ago we heard that anra, the u.n. agency
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admitted that there were medical supplies in gaza city that were stolen by hamas, people that were purporting to be from the gazan health ministry, and they stole these supplies and they're being repurposed to hurt us. >> the gazan health ministry are treating people there and there are a lot of people watching this happen, and it seems to them that the entire population in gaza is being punished because of hamas' actions. no water, no fuel and that these children, more than 50% of the population of gaza is children. how do you justify that to say okay, we're cutting off your water and we're not going to let food through our boarders at ths time. >> this was a fight that we didn't cause, we didn't invite and we weren't expecting it and our cause is just and for that reason the u.s. president also showed up here and his arrival. we are so grateful for that because this sends a very
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unequivocal message to all of israel's enemies right now, and it is being very greatly appreciated. every israeli citizen wanted to hear what the u.s. president had to say today. >> right. one last thing i have to ask you about the hospital. there's been a lot of confusion. we cannot obviously verify it ourselves. israel has come out with information saying we have proof, but you do have someone who is a reservist who went online and also an influencer and he went online and made the statements that basically israel had bombed this hospital because there were, as he put it, hamas terrorists inside. he then took that down. that went all over the world. is he right? is that true and how do you prove otherwise? >> i'm not familiar with the specific reservist and the comment that he posted and what he took down. first, there's an abundance of evidence that israel was not behind that strike, that it was a missile that fell short inside the gaza strip and the u.s. president confirmed that based on the evidence that we have shown him and also there's an
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abundance of other evidence including videos and this phone call between hamas militants that was intercepted in which they basically admit that it wasn't us. so there's no doubt about that, but it is very concerning that there is some, you know disinformation out there and we have to be very, very accurate when we address such issues because it can cost lives. >> thank you so much. i appreciate you coming on and taking those questions. we will be right back as the war in israel continues.
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all right. moments from now the house of representatives will reconvene for this second round votes for house speaker. jim jordan from ohio, he fell way shorter yesterday than anyone expected and today he might be even shorter than that. >> not talking about height. w we're talking about vote support. we are here with cnn reporter avalon, and is there a universe where jim jordan does not pull it off in the second vote that a third vote is going to prove anything better for him? ? no. >> i agree. >> whoa! >> crazy. >> but i don't think jim jordan will leave gracefully into the evening and just sort of walk off. >> what else can he do? >> look, chaos is the point right now, kate.
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that's what's actually happening, and i think all of this is having massive ramifications downstream especially as you look at the field congressional candidates that shape up. you have moderate republicans that are getting primary by trump-selected nominees right now and it's changing the entire dynamic out there in the country right now. they're on the march even though they're losing when it comes to the speakership. >> you have, frankly, a completely insane situation where jim jordan will be the savior of the republican congress where the former speaker was once described as a legislative terrorist because he's so focused on destruction rather than building and he's the worst possible porn to play a unifying role and they were pushing this idea and doing it through fear to the center, saying if you guys don't vote for jim jordan you will get primered and the center started to hold. they showed some kind of spine for the first time in a long time. they will need to continue to do that, but you know, he did worse than expected yesterday. that's a sign of sanity given
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how implicated he was. >> political road that for the first time moderates proved they were vertebras. >> explain to me, jordan if he loses, what happens with patrick mchenry perhaps being empowered as some kind of temporary speaker. discuss? >> the likelihood that he becomes a caretaker speaker who is able for a certain period of time and god only knows how long that is, at least run the house and be able to facilitate whatever supplemental bills that biden gets through and by the way, it may be dumb, but we just heard president biden say he was going to ask for a huge amount of support and money for israel and we also need this for ukraine. in order for the united states to continue to be a world leader we need the house representatives and the one thing they need to do is pass budget. >> this is the house on fire situation. this is a necessary and not sufficient step because you
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could get some things done. there needs to be a super majority of the republicans so it isn't held hostage from the far right anymore. if they don't do that and this is just a temporary measure you could see rotating speakers being toppled unless someone reaches out to create a real stability which could be a major break with the hyperpartisan fever. >> one way or another. >> thank you very much. >> thank you all for joining us today. cnn's special coverage of that critical house vote begins right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ you are looking at live pictures right now, nearly 6,000 miles apart on the left in washington, d.c. house republicans are trying to snap a sad streak of failure on
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the right in the middle east, president biden is promising to stand by israel now and forever. moments ago we just got a statement from the white house national security council asserting that israel, based on the intelligence they've acquired, is not responsible for that explosion at the hospital in gaza yesterday. this follows president biden on the world stage asserting that he has seen sufficient evidence to convince him that the israeli defense forces are not e horror the gaza hospital. two stories with hugely important consequences across the globe and cnn is on the front lines of both. i'm jake tapper in washington. >> and i'm dana bash on capitol hill where we still have a speakerless house of representatives. in minutes, jim jordan plans to take his second shot at the speakership on the house floor. tuesday's vote did not go well. 20 republican defectors say he is not fit to hold the gavel, well more than jordan's sources
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tell us that they expected and today the ohio republican needs to hold his entire conference minus four republicans, a tall order considering what happened just a little less than 24 hours ago. >> and i'm sara sidner in israel where the american president has injected himself into a deepening middle east crisis. the fog of war fueling outrage across arab capitals like beirut and amman after a blast at that gaza city hospital today right here in tel aviv, president biden urged both palestinians and israelis to honor the humanity of the lost. he also said the early evidence points away from israel that they are not responsible for the blast at that hospital. the tuesday blast that the hamas controlled authorities inside gaza killed hundreds in indescribable fashion. >> and we will have much more from the middle east throughout
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this hour, but we will start at home at the u.s. capitol and with cnn's manu raju. manu, you have some new reporting on the race for speaker and congressman jim jordan's effort to get the speaker gavel. he lost that ballot yesterday. he got 2 00 votes from house republicans and short of the 216, 217 votes he needed. is there going to be another vote and will he be closer or farther away, do you think? >> jake, he is poised to lose this vote that's going to happen in the 11:00 hour. it will be a second ballot, and i am told by republicans who are part of that op silgz that the opposition will only grow. if not on the second ballot, almost certainly on the third ballot if jim jordan decides to do that. i am told that it could be 20, 25, maybe upward of 30 republicans will ultimately continue to vote against jim jordan. the concern from the jordan folks is that the longer this goes on that more of those republicans will ultimately peel off.
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some of them said they would only support him on the first ballot and not necessarily commit to vote for him on the second and third ballot. as one republican who is opposed to jim jordan told me, he said the opposition is unified and it is growing and there is consensus that they plan to hold the line, to try to force jordan out of the speakership. jordan is trying to show that there is some progress. i caught him moments ago on the way to the congressman's office and he indicated that he is still staying in the race and we'll see how long that ultimately goes, but there is a belief in republican circles that if he cannot show progress on this vote and cannot show progress on a third vote. there is no path for him on the speakership and they'll have to start to entertain what plan b is and at the moment there's growing discussion about trying to empower patrick mchenry and give him the authority to oversee the legislative process and pass a resolution as soon as today to give him temporary power and mchenry, significantly moments ago would not rule out
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