that's it for me, thank you for watching news night. passing the ball out to laura coates, live, it starts right now. hey laura. >> i love this relay race, it's like a track team. i love it. i can't run as fast as you, i am sure. nice to see, obviously right back here tomorrow. >> have a good show. >> thank you! a key witness flips, what will she say under oath and about the former president of the united states. that's tonight on laura coates live. guilty. not accused, not allegedly, guilty. now that is the word that describes a former member of trump's inner circle. attorney sydney powell pled guilty today to six counts of conspiracy to commit intentional interference and

performance of election duties. remember this moment is what she said, well, remember this, about the kraken? >> i'm going to release the kraken. >> well, i happen to love a good clash of the titans reference, but in this case she didn't release anything and, remember, the sydney powell would say one of the theories about hugo chavez in venezuela? >> the software that goes into other computerized coding systems here, as well, were created in venezuela at the direction of hugo chavez to make sure that he never lost an election. >> remember her legal defense in the dominion case, no reasonable person would believe her election fraud claims even though she was saying them. now, she was facing 70 felony charges including a -- and had been facing jail time. but now it is just probation,

not jail time the prosecutions asking for, and that's all, right? well, not exactly. you better believe that when a prosecutor makes a plea offer, as she seems to have gotten, there is going to be some conditions. she will have to testify in future trials as impossibly testifying again to now former codefendant. and one of them is a man by the name of donald trump. will that come to pass? we will have to see. we have a lot to talk about with my expert guest, we've got michael, more former u.s. attorney for the middle district of georgia, and former federal prosecutor elliott williams is here tonight. plus, on a very busy news tonight, president biden's oval office address to the nation. but, did his message, to the american people, land with the american people? will it come down to the emotion or the numbers? we're going to the magic wall to break down what americans do think about aid and the scope and the tenure of that aid to israel and also, don't forget

about ukraine. and we are on the ground in tel aviv tonight with reaction to the presidents address. but i want to begin with sydney powell's bombshell guilty plea in the georgia election subversion case. remind you, a few days before the trial was set to begin michael moore and elliott williams are here with me now. i love it when lawyers are on the set. i tell you, it makes me feel all giddy inside, mostly because i have been, as you have been, following this case and wondering what would happen here. we are literally on the eve of this trial, a jury selection. when you saw this guilty plea, one, were you surprised? >> well, i'm glad to be with you on set. i wasn't totally surprised, i mean, this is sort of standard prosecutor playbook. indict people and you try to get them to flip and become witnesses in your other cases. what was interesting here with the trial is expedited because she had filed a motion for a speedy trial, so everything was kind of moving on a quick basis. >> that was her right. >> there is a specific statute in georgia that allows her to

do that, she did it, she took advantage of it. so now, it feels like things are moving a little bit quickly but some of that's because that speedy trial motion. what is going to be interesting is what they are able to get out of her. what will the prosecutor get? she pled guilty to charges related to the colton county, that with voting machines, paying some people to go down there. not so much about trump, remember, this is a very detailed indictment and it really doesn't have a big tie there. i think what is more interesting is what she may be offering the federal case, whether or -- not >> for jack smith's case, not fani willis? >> whether or not there is some conditions, whether she's made some statements. we don't know yet, but she may have made statements that would be useful not prosecution. >> when you look at it, and the cost inquisitor, and obviously plea officers, they're not intended to be something that no defendant would ever want to take. there's got to be a little bit of give intake in order to make it work. when you look at this and the end result, probation, not the full seven charges, the day

practical before trial, do you think that this is something that the prosecution's case was stronger or weaker than they thought? >> that's an interesting question. i think they are confident that they are getting something out for. now, something that we all know is that the overwhelming majority of criminal defendants plead guilty in federal system, it is upwards of 90% and i am sure in the state of georgia it's roughly the same. >> which, by the way, is sometimes indicative of what we have talked about injustice in this country, that cost-benefit analysis deeply rather than go through trial is more enticing. >> it is literally sometimes called the trial penalty, where people -- so it is wholly unsurprising that she actually did plead guilty. the sentence here, i think we're all in agreement, is really not that much at all. i guess they are confident that they are getting something useful out of her, but, like michael said, it is hard to know exactly she is providing. now, she was present for this, sort of, bonkers meeting on

september 18th 2020, has people in the room called it team crazy versus team normal. >> remind us again about this meeting, people forget. drinking out of a fire hose, they forget about that. >> these aren't my words, this is white house attorneys referring to a number of people around foreign president trump, a team crazy, making this argument to install sydney powell as a special investigator, a special prosecutor overseeing all matters of elections. even people in the room thought made literally no sense. she can testify as to conversations in that room, things that were said to her, to the president, by the president, and anybody else in there that might be charged with crimes. so that is one thing, but, beyond that, it's hard to know what useful testimony are going to get out of her. >> you know the tendency, whenever you have, obviously donald trump is in a room litigious, lee it takes a lot of the action, i think forget the other 17 codefendants, what about trump? it could be that she is useful with the other 17 codefendants.

chesbrough maybe not, because he doesn't want to be tried with her, but is this for donald trump? because it is now the second person to have pled guilty, not in the case may be out of d.c., as you mentioned, but is this significant to him? >> it is. it's somebody that is described as his inner circle entering a guilty plea in charges he's connected with. we just don't know the detail that she can give about's particular involvement, but she's just a piece of the puzzle. she is not necessarily the silver bullet of the case, but i think she might give some context to sort of the involvement going on. do you know, i really thought the plea itself was a little bit anticlimactic. it is a misdemeanor, she is pleading just six different misdemeanors, so it sounds like a six different sentences, but it's not, it's 12 months that run after each other. she finishes her sentence, she has no record, if he can still vote into all of those things. so to put all the drama of

bringing people in and parading them in to be processed and arrested and talk about the largest election case -- it was a little bit anticlimactic. that told me two things. number, one it could be that she has good information, we don't know. but it also could mean that the state saw this as a way to sort of help dispose of an early case that may not want to lay their entire trial out right now before the trump trial is set. they may not want to do a preview. this is what this is going to be, just a preview for the rest of those defendants to see the entire case. >> you make a strong point, because the calendar was not the front of the prosecutors in the case. they have to be prepared to try the case when they have indicted, essentially. but, the idea of the preview, remember they made this argument that they had a time altogether because it would be repetitive, it would be an inefficient use of the resources the court, that this would have sucked the quaint, it's trials with the same evidence. but, it is interesting that the misdemeanors, she can still vote. she can still vote in georgia.

part of this has to be a letter of the people of georgia, an apology of some kind, i cannot wait to read that particular letter, i have to say, but she can still vote. >> she can still vote. we'll save that letter for a second, and along the lines of the clip that you played at the beginning, some of these quotes and, really aggressive statements made by her. this is an individual who is as much of a true believer in what we can call the big lie as anybody else, now -- >> with play out. i want to underline your point, it's really good one. let's play some of what elliott's talking about and how significant it has been. >> we are not going to be intimidated, we are not going to back down, we are going to clean this mess up now. president trump won by a landslide, we are going to prove it and we are going to reclaim the united states of america for the people who vote for freedom. >> now, she has to accept responsibility in order to plead guilty and she needs to walk into a court and say, as she sort of did today, but to

say i engaged in acts of fraud, i acknowledge this conduct. it is vastly different in the wars iso right there. is she going to stick to the line where, you know, she sits beneath the conduct, or she going to sort of wobble. she issued a statement today saying patriots, look out, the news we are going to have tomorrow. so i'm not convinced that this individual doesn't go to trial and that this plea agreement doesn't fall apart in some way, but who knows. >> we have seen plea agreements implode before and maybe some people just like stepping on a rake. who knows? not me, michael moore, elliott williams, thank you so much. next, we're on the ground in tel aviv with reaction to president biden's oval office address tonight. he's reminding americans who we are and what we stand for. >> let's not forget who we are. we reject all forms, all forms of hate. whether against muslims, choose, or anyone.

that is what great nations do.

>> well, tonight, a rare oval office address from president joe biden really laying out his case for why he thinks the united states public should support wartime aid to not only ukraine, but also israel. this, as the world faces a series of crises. >> american leadership will hold the world together. american alliances will keep us, america, safe. american values are what make us a partner other nations want to work with. to put all of that at risk if we walk away from ukraine, we turn our backs on israel, it's just not worth it. >> joining me now from tel aviv, cnn anchor kaitlan collins. kaitlan, so good to see you. biden has been making the case that it is not only about, perhaps, the humanity, but also about national security and that balance for the american public. what stuck out most do you?

>> yeah, he said he didn't really blame people for asking why is the u.s. sending so much money to ukraine, or spending so much money to israel, but he laid out why he believes that was important. it's not just about those two respective nations, but how those battles aren't fought there, if those fights aren't fought for, what he says is democracy versus autocracy, then those battles will happen in the united states or u.s. troops could be involved. so he was kind of drawing the through line between these two separate wars, to war zones he is now visit with his trip here in tel aviv just yesterday and was making this argument and equating to two very different entities, hamas, of course, the terrorist group, in gaza and vladimir putin of russia. saying they are both fighting democracy, they are neighbors who have this democracies. it was this through line of something that is two very different situations but he tied them together as the reason he's asking for congress for this major ask in funding for both. >> meanwhile, he is tying these

together, but you've got congress that has their hands tied and not doing anything, obviously, because they don't have the speaker of the house and there's no actual end in sight for that yet. you hear about president biden making that pitch, asking for that paid, i mean, is it not only falling on deaf ears but also a hands that cannot do anything about it? >> yeah, it is going to a paralyzed congress tomorrow when he sends this over. the senate seems very clear that they would like to pass this. you've heard from some senators who disagree with funding for ukraine, but overall there is a pretty unanimous consensus in the senate from both democrats and republicans. in the house does not even consensus within the republican conference, they can't decide who they want to elect. they are debating whether or not they should empower the guy who is temporarily interposition, really just as a caretaker, to do the job in january because jim jordan cannot get the votes. so it really does strike you when you listen to president biden's speech tonight, this rare oval office address, only

the second time he's addressed of the country from there, and then you think about down pennsylvania avenue in capitol hill, republicans are behind closed doors, essentially yelling expletives at one another, blocking each other on twitter, fighting, and cannot elect a house speaker. president biden says, ultimately, he does believe that will get resolved. this aid will get past, but it is quite a notable roadblock. >> kaitlan collins, thank you so much. look, as president biden is it calling for more american aid for ukraine and also israel, i want to take a look at just what the u.s. has provided so far. cnn's tom foreman, he's at the magic wall to break it all down for us tonight. so, tom, what can you tell us? >> since russia invaded ukraine in early 2020 to the u.s. has sent tanks and missiles and artillery, drones, missile defense systems, troop transports, radar, loads of infantry weapons and equipment and so on, all in all more than

75 billion dollars worth of aid has gone to ukraine from the u.s.. and, military spending, this part right here, accounts for well over half of that total. that is much, much more than the u.s. sends to any other country and it absolutely dwarfs american contributions to israel, which, in 2021, was in the typical range of 3 to 4 billion dollars, laura? >> wow, just seeing the numbers laid out it is really stunning to think about. it's quite a difference. we have recent cnn polling, i think, on what americans actually think about what you just described. let's start with israel, what do those polls say? >> if you look at this american sympathy for israel is on a real upswing right now. so you might expect strong support for that relatively modest amount of u.s. aid to israel, but the numbers paint a murkier picture. 35% of americans say the current level of aid is about right, 15% say it is too much,

14% say it is too little, and 36%, the largest single-group, say they are unsure. an interesting side note in this, the numbers show that republicans and those who watch the news closely are more favorable to this current level of aid, or? >> what about ukraine funding? is there polling about that? >> yeah, we have one back in august. in that case it shows a dramatic drop since the early days of the war and a large majority of americans favorite help to ukraine. whether it is because the length of the conflict or the ron out of money that he sent that way, 55% of americans, this number right down here, they are currently saying there should be no additional funding for ukraine. and 45% say the money should keep flowing. here, republicans are saying that is enough spending for ukraine. they strongly oppose more spending and democrats fully favor more money for the fight against the russians.

so, all of these numbers, but all of this together, but together the turmoil on capitol hill, that's what president biden is up against 20 made that speech tonight and what he'll be up against incoming days. >> tom foreman, thank you for bringing it all down. it was really helpful to see the numbers right there, i appreciate it. well, president biden is making a direct plea tonight to the american people and he is calling aid for israel and ukraine. he's calling it an investment, but did he make his case? i'll ask the experts. and later i'll talk with the uncle of nathan natalee holloway just days after her killer confessed.

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to u.s. allies in need of aid and president biden directly appealing to americans for u.s. support for the wars in israel and also in ukraine, calling this an inflection point in history. joining me now to discuss is robin, right comments for the new yorker and fellow at the woodrow wilson -- for scholars, he's been falling conflicts in the region for decades. all the cnn military analyst, retired air force colonel cedric leighton. you know, i want to really tap into both of your expertise because it is a vast. robin, beginning with you, president biden gave this oval office speech. what was your reaction to it? >> well, it clearly this was a domestic pitch to get the american people disappoint to wars in which the united states is deeply involved as a major arms supplier, as a major diplomatic force standing behind governments in kyiv and tel aviv, jerusalem. this is a moment where the united states, he has to make the case. he made it in very strong

terms. the question is whether the american people, because of their own emotional feelings or attachments, want to support him in what is likely to be a long term on both sides and whether the emotions of the moment overtake, as we have seen, not only the united states but around the world. >> we are seeing the numbers, cedric, and you look at it and there is the request to be invested in to long term scenarios. ukraine, israel. he makes a case? >> i think he did. of course, it depends on ones productions and one views of how this is supposed to work, but president biden harkens back to, basically the time of fdr, where he looks at a world in which there is good and there is evil and he sees the democracy as being on the good side, autocracy as being on the side of evil. he believes that the panoply that we're dealing with, the areas that we're dealing with, are really a contrast between

an autocracy on the one side, like russia, which invades ukraine, and hamas, which, in essence, invaded, to an extent, israel. so he is seeing that and saying these forces are on the march and now that these forces are moving forward we need to confront them. we need to stop them from going ahead and changing our way of life. >> biden did speak today about the possibility of this spreading. listen. >> the risk of conflict and chaos could spread to other parts of the world and the indo-pacific, the middle east, especially in the middle east. iran is a supporting russia in ukraine and is supporting hamas, and other terrorist groups in the region, and will continue to hold them accountable, i might add. >> you said before, robin, that this is us being on the precipice of something. do you think so? >> yes, in the last 48 hours we have seen attacks on u.s.

positions in syria, places where u.s. troops are based in iraq, the houthis of yemen are believed to have fired missiles and drones at israel and the united states shot them down. we've seen a lebanese border fire fights from both hezbollah and other palestinian hard-line factions along that border. there is a real danger that these are all parties that have been on the sidelines of this war until now. neither, or none of them, wants, necessarily, to fight a larger war, but the question is is there such momentum, is there such passion and fear eno that it is possible to draw them back? once the united states deploys in the region, not only do we show our muscle, but we also become targets and the question is, if we fired the first shot, as we did against these drones and missiles from yemen, does that make his party to a conflict? >> in the last two days, it is

frankly very scary what you described because it has such a level of imminent feeling and foreboding and thinking about what could be next. just a few days ago we were wondering when there will be a greenlight ground incursion, or ground invasion. we are not there anymore, or are we? >> well, it could happen, but there are some mitigating circumstances right now, i think, in terms of whether or not the israelis in a tactical sense or going to move forward into gaza. the problem that they have is, on the one hand, they've all these forces deployed, 300,000 reservists that they called up. 60,000, actually. and they are poised to move forward both against gaza and potentially southern lebanon, as well as against hezbollah. but the other part of the problem is humanitarian. there are those corridors that they say they are establishing, that the southern border with gaza and egypt and if that is opened, then, of course, they cannot have conflict in that particular area of gaza, at

least gaza is a very small place until that issue is resolved one way or the other. so there is the potential of the invasion or incursion has been delayed a bit, but there is also the potential that it could move forward. we are kind of at that petering ed right now, at this point. >> you said earlier, that point as well, that the pentagon actually was confirming today that the uss carney shot down three land attack missiles and several drones launched by iran -backed forces in yemen. it's not clear precisely where they were aimed, but they were headed north towards israel, obviously, and i wonder, you mentioned the notion of u.s. intervention. are we being lured in, is this something that you anticipate it? >> well, the united states has always taken a strong position on the side of israel and it will do what it can to help defend it in terms of supply.

it doesn't want to engage in israel's war, this is something that is an israeli war. i think the danger is that all of the forces, or many of the forces, the militias across the region, most of them allied with iran, now have missiles drawn and rockets all capable of hitting israel. and they have, what is known as overmatched, that israel can't defend against all of them all at the same time if they all unleashed what they had. >> it would require a lot of coordination, though? >> it would require coordination, but israel doesn't know when these might attack, where it needs to deploy, what it needs to defend against. so this, again, there is more firepower, more passion, better trained militias, with more funding than at any time in the modern middle east conflict dating back to 1948. >> what was interesting about this, and that's absolutely correct what robin is saying, the other part of this, though, is notice where the u.s. fluoresces are deployed. you've got the uss carney in the red sea, just south of the

suez canal, and it was in a position where it could actually intersect those missiles and drones. we have forces in iraq and syria, basically along iran's periphery, at least western periphery, and so there is a message also to the iranians. we are here, they are sending staff against us, we are in these areas so that we can also do things against them should we choose to do so. >> will it be enough? that's the question that we're hoping everyone to try to answer, but not tonight. thank you. >> thank you. >> natalee holloway's killer confessing, almost 20 years after her disappearance. i'm going to talk with the family private vest gator and a reporter who's been covering that story since the very beginning.

>> after 18 years the man along suspected of killing alabama teen natalee holloway ask confessed. >> i decided to take her and put her into the ocean. so i grabbed her i pull and half walk with her into the ocean. a push her off, about up to my knees in the ocean, and i push her off into the sea. >> jordan van der sloot admitting that he killed the 18-year-old with a cinder block after she need him in the

garage after he tried to make unwanted sexual advances. the confession came as part of a plea deal stemming from charges in which he tried to extort money from huawei's own mother in exchange for information about her remains. join me now inside edition sheaf correspondent jim morey, is covered the story from the beginning and has spent time with natalie's mother. also here is t.j. ward, the private investigator who worked on this case for the holloway family. i am glad that you are both here, this has been a case that has captivated the nation for literally decades about what happened to this young woman. jim, or you surprised that he confessed, and now? >> i think i was relieved that he confessed. i know that bat and likely matt, her son, her ex husband, natalie's dad dave, her half sister, none of them believe

the apology that he gave, but they all believed confession. that was really all that matters. the prosecutors believe, it he was given a polygraph, and what you could say that he tricked it or not, prosecutors were happy with that. but they have been looking, the family has been looking for a definitive answer, a declaration of guilt, a declaration that iran was the killer and not the suspect, the fact that the family now has peace as the relevant point. he's not going to serve any additional time, he's going to serve 20 years which is concurrent with what he is serving anyways, but at least closes that part of the investigation and it's horrible journey for the investigation. >> in peru, another separate killing as well, is what he is serving for. t.j., does what he say, and i take, i understand jim's point and this is a family that has been seeking the truth, want closure and deserves it as well, does what he says happened lineup with what you have found during your own investigation?

>> well, good evening, thank you for having me. one of the problems i have is what the end result that he put her into the ocean. i don't believe that was the end result. back when bat and i were both on the island and i was conducting the investigation i learned, and best had also learned, that there was a boat brought in and i believe that -- made that decision to bring a vote in and told iran to get out of. there >> that's the father? >> yes, paul van der sloot is iran's father. i believe that, he called his father and his father told him to leave and to secure her body. i believe, and best had heard at the same time, that paul is made have brought a boat in and remove the body. there's no way that he could've

pushed her in the ocean because she would've washed back up. they probably put her on a boat and took her out, if in fact she was in the water and the truth about her being in the ocean is a fact. >> jim, you are nodding and, of course, the father has not been charged in connection with this with a guilty plea, but you are nodding. it seems that you agree? >> yeah, it doesn't make sense when you talk about joran the's statement that he walked in halfway up to his knees and then dumped her and pushed her out. it's not likely that she would've been fact washed away. what i think is important is his acknowledgment that, he says, i did this. he did bring out some facts that we frankly didn't know. we now know, and i think beth takes solace in this, that her daughter fought back. she didn't like this man's advances, she fought back, and then she, unfortunately, paid with her life. but at least we have some more information. you know, it is just a page and

a half this transcript of his confession and it is just so haunting. you played a portion, it is very disturbing, but frankly, at least it give some closure and that has said very publicly that we would let me say that he's the killer, is no longer the suspect and it gives something. >> it is an extraordinary point just thinking about what natalie endured and that this confession was the result of her fighting back and trying to prevent is unwanted advances. this, the result, t.j., was there ever a time where you thought that, he didn't act alone, but that he was not the killer? >> i knew all along he wasn't solved at some point. one thing that really bothers me after i got on to the island it is that as a lead investigator, vendors lawton, something wasn't right about him. so i started looking into him

and i learned that he was van der sloot's godfather, dad's best friend, and who worked with paul is van der sloot from 95 to 98. that was a little disturbing to know that this investigation was not -- and wholeheartedly. >> it's unbelievable to think about, almost 20 years has transpired and now this has happened. this family have enclosure, we're actually going to speak to a member of naturally's family next. thank you both for joining us this is an unbelievable story and closure for the family is deserved. thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> well, natalie hallways on coal, in his first interview since joran van der sloot confessed to killing his niece, natalie.

>> she desperately search for answers, and even pay the man suspected of killing her daughter in the hopes of finding a clue, any clue, about what happened to her child. now natalie hallways mother has finally learned the truth. >> i got the answer i've been searching for for the past 18 years. joran van der sloot's convention means we finally reached the end of our never ending nightmare. for me, reaching the end of the nightmare, being over is better then closure. >> joining me now is paul reynolds, natalie sonne cole, the brother of her mother, bass. i'm glad that you're here, paul, it has just been a nightmare for your family. i can't even imagine what you have endured. now, after 18 years as beth said it is finally over.

what has that meant to your family knowing what happened to natalie? >> well, laura, the first thing i would like to say is how proud i am of my sister and in awe of what she has been through and able to accomplish. it is hard to blame if it has been 18 years since natalie disappeared. you know, i think back to all the amazing people who came to help search for natalie, people came on vacation, people left their families on vacation to help search for natalie. it was so surprising and meaningful to me how natalie captured peoples attention. they were all hoping for her safe return and now, today, we finally have closure as to what happened. this was a never-ending search for my sister to find out what

happened to her daughter. when joran was convicted of killing stephanie flores in peru, that's traveled to peru and went to the president and confronted joran, to let him know she was still looking for answers. the quest to have him extradited was amazing. beth had so many people supporting her, to bring him back to the u.s. and face these charges so that she could find out what happened and you get to the truth. >> unbelievable to think about just the depth of a mother's love for her daughter, to just be relentless, to try to bring justice and on her daughter's behalf. you have said it so well. he has confessed, he has not been charged with her death specifically, though. is the family processing that?

>> well, i think the processing was, a lot of the processing was done leading up to this final event, which record this week. this was the goal, to find out what happened, to have joran let bat know what happened. there were so many questions before. there was always the slimmest hope that naturally could be alive and could be somewhere neediness. i remember several years ago the three girls were found, i think in ohio, who had been held captive in a house for 13 years. we always wondered, could that be naturally? could she be held somewhere? today has allowed my sister to rest, to rest from the search, to have confidence in the knowledge of what occurred, and gives her a chance to begin to grieve, to know what occurred,

how it happened. it is clear that joran, i want to say a sick person. killing two people, brutally, it's just unbelievable. it was very hard for my sister and our family to hear what happened. it is difficult to hear. it was important to hear it so that there is an opportunity to rest and move forward. >> it must have been excruciating to hear from his own mouth after what he has done to the family. the extortion, all the years that have gone by while you have fought. did you have a chance to say anything, if not, what would you say to him tonight? >> i don't know that he even deserves any words.

he is no longer the focus. the focus for bat, i believe, and for myself, it's just naturally and the memories that we have of her. we have let go of joran and he's going to go back to peru and serve his sentence there. so he's no longer important to us. just the knowledge of what happened and that my sister can now rest. >> i'm so glad that bat can now rest in your family and made this beautiful young woman, naturally, rest now in peace. paul reynolds, thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. >> we have more breaking news tonight. the army private who fled to north korea in july, do you remember this story? running across the border after joining a civilian tour. he has now been charged with

desertion. private travis king is facing a total of eight charges, including assault of soldiers and solicitation of child pornography. the 23 year old private arrived back in the u.s. earlier this month after being expelled by north korea. cnn has reached out to the army for comment. everyone, thank you for watching. our coverage continues after this short break.

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