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overreaction that then produces civilian casualties and people start siding with the terrorists. be strategic. go in targeted. if you are trying to, you know -- the israelis used to have a rule, many, many years ago, that the goal that they would bide their time and they would take out every terrorist who planned and executed this. maybe that's several hundred people. go after each single one, be narrow, be strategic. imagine if we had done that after 9/11 instead of invading two countries, building up a massive bureaucracy and spending what some estimate is $8 trillion. have we become more secure because of it? >> we heard the president with that warning last night again, learn from our mistakes after 9/11. fareed, thank you. so look forward to the show this weekend. appreciate it. just moments ago the attorney for kenneth chesebro just arrived at an atlanta area court. chesebro is accused of being the architect of the fake electors scheme and was indicted on seven criminal charges. cnn just learned he was offered
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a pleaeal. jury selection in that trial is expected to begin today. "cnn news central" continues right now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan here in new york. john berman is off today. sara sidner is in israel. we have a lot of breaking news happening right now in israel, in washington and potentially in georgia. we're going to get to all of it right now. happening right now in georgia, jury selection is under way at the fulton county courthouse there in the racketeering case against former trump attorney kenneth chesbro, you see his mugshot there. we've also learned that he has been offered a plea deal and we could learn at any moment if he's going to take that deal. just yesterday we learned on r peon charged alongside trump and chesbro,
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sidney powell, she pleaded guilty as part of another plea deal, and in doing so agreed to testify in future trials which would mean testifying against donald trump. we have a lot going on here and it's playing out in court as we speak. we have cnn's katelyn polantz in new york, nick valencia is outside court and elie honig joining us as well. nick, you broke the news about the plea deal being on the table. any news on what is in that offer and what is happening in court as we speak? >> reporter: good morning, kate. the source with knowledge of these discussions didn't give me the details of this plea deal, only to tell me that ken chesbro was offered the deal by the fulton county district attorney's office and those discussions went well into the evening last night. the source familiar with these discussions tells me it was not clear whether or not ken chesbro would take the deal but the likelihood of them cutting this deal with the district attorney's office increased after his co-defendant sidney
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powell surprised everybody with her about face, doing a complete 180 and pleading guilty herself to six misdemeanor counts. ken chesbro linked with the former president, the former attorney of the president and the architect of the fake electors scheme, offering an alternate slate of electors to keep trump's hope alive of contesting this election. if ken chesbro does take this deal it would be a huge mo monumental win for fani willis who would narrow her case against the former president who is the key here for the district attorney's office. >> nick is going to get us updates from inside court. katelyn polantz is with me in new york. the complexity around this, talk to me about what ken chesbro, what he's charged w what we know about him and what this plea deal could mean. >> well, he's part of a much larger case that fani willis has brought against 19 defendants that includes donald trump. donald trump is at the top of the pyramid of those defendants.
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ken chesbro and sidney powell, the co-defendant of all of them, powell and chesbro were set to go to trial first outside of the rest of the 17 and they are at the top of the pyramids well. they are lawyers that were very close to donald trump, that were connectors between trump and others. chesbro specifically had a lot of insight and was writing memos about the use of fake electors in battleground states. that's the area of these conspiracy where he would have knowledge and a lot of focus, but it's important to see what happens with these two because it was a trial for just these two people. >> right. >> separate from the rest of the 17, but it's all one case. >> that's significant and worth -- we have to talk about the details because he's -- i was also just told he is present in court right now as we speak. but it is -- the 30,000 foot view is also very important here. >> absolutely, because if sidney
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powell and ken chesbro were to have gone to trial or are going to trial with just chesbro now as the defendant, that would be the prosecutors putting on their entire case against donald trump and all of the other defendants for these two individuals who would be before the jury as criminal defendants. so sidney powell, she is not going to trial now because she's pleading guilty, agreeing to cooperate. ken chesbro we are waiting to see what he does as he's considering this plea offer that's on the table. something that happens that every criminal defendant is pretty much offered a plea deal to see if they want to take it before trial. what he does, though, is very crucial because if he chooses to take it, the trial goes away and it's back to the focus being on donald trump. that is the trial that would happen first, and there are implications, too, for the federal case against donald trump. these things are not -- they operate separately in court, the prosecutor teams are separate,
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but what's being charged in the federal case against donald trump in washington, d.c., there is a lot of the same players, a lot of the same information prosecutors had sought and a lot of the same facts that would be on display before a jury and there is a trial against donald trump alone set for march in that federal case. >> elie, let me bring in elie honig, katelyn stay with us. chesbro would be -- and he is in court right now, so we're going to have updates coming out -- he would be the third trump co-defendant to take a plea deal if he agrees to it. what's your view on what this could mean? >> well, kate, first of all, we're watching closely to see whether he takes this plea deal or not. it is not at all uncommon to see people plead guilty on the eve of trial as we may see here in a few minutes. there is nothing like having a trial looming in front of you to focus the mind. defendants get nervous, if they get convicted they could go to prison, prosecutors see a way to avoid the trial and to get a conviction on the books.
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in this case as katelyn pointed out, if they get a plea deal with ken chesbro we are not going to have this early trial that was supposed to happen next week, it was supposed to be sidney powell and ken chesbro both. if they both plea there not not be an early trial. the biggest question to watch for, if chesbro does take a guilty plea, will it be a cooperation deal because not all guilty pleas require cooperation. there is such a thing as -- >> what goes into this? what goes into that? >> well, so from the prosecutor's point of view the first question is how badly do you need and want the testimony from ken chesbro? there is a situation where sometimes you say, look, it would be great to plead him out, not have to try him or worry about it, we don't need his testimony. there is another situation where you say we really want his testimony, therefore, we are not going to give him a deal unless he agrees to testify. that's the kind of deal they
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struck with sidney powell yesterday. >> katelyn, are these like dominoes that are kind of knocking into each other and forcing them to fall? i mean, first it started with scott hall, he took a plea deal, people won't remember much about his deal, kind of a smaller player, if you will, in the grand scheme of this racketeering case, and then you have sidney powell and maybe then you have ken chesbro. does this have a domino effect? >> it very much can and it's very possible -- we haven't heard from sidney powell directly or her lawyers about why she changed her mind. >> yes. >> but, you know, they were starting to get evidence and one of the things in the evidence that they were realizing and seeing is that another person, scott hall, he was a bail bondsman in georgia, he is part of this conspiracy case as well, he was charged as one of the 19, the first defendant to take a plea deal and plead guilty, agree to cooperate. and the area that he pled guilty
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in was about what happened in coffee county, georgia, this rural area where there was an attempt to breach voter systems and get voter data there. that also is what sidney powell is admitting to as part of her plea deal and the things that she's pleading guilty to, the specific charges. and so hall was about coffey county, i would imagine that would be something that would put pressure on sidney powell to think through does she want to go to trial when they now have this cooperating witness. with powell yesterday of course ken chesbro would think do i want to go to trial now that sidney powell is a cooperating witness, another lawyer that was in the white house, was around trump and the trump campaign after the election, and does ken chesbro think do i want to go to trial by myself? it was going to be both he and sidney powell, now just him. so that's probably something that he's very likely considering weighing on him this morning as the jury selection is going to be beginning. does he want to be the only
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person to go to trial on these 2020 election massive conspiracy case against donald trump and others first, or does he want to do something that could potentially reduce the prison time he faces, what choice does he have? there's a lot of factors going into it. >> we're seeing a live picture here into the courtroom in fulton county, georgia, and we're going to -- we're listening in for updates as -- well, it looks like the judge left the chair. i thought i saw him there a second ago. we will continue to track this. elie, as we're watching this, if donald trump's legal team, if ken chesbro takes a plea deal, how does that change what they would potentially know about the case that they would need to be putting on and what have they been lost if this plea deal -- if he accepts a plea deal and there's no more early trial? >> so it cuts both ways i think if you're donald trump's lawyers. on the one hand if he cooperates
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that's not good news for donald trump. you have one more person, one more insider who will be telling his story to prosecutors and potentially testifying. and, again, even if chesbro had limited or no direct contact with donald trump, remember, this is charged as a broad racketeering conspiracy so chesbro will be able to give them that explains that conspiracy, what the overall goal was to try to steal the election. on the other hand if you are donald trump's attorney and there is a guilty plea here, you are a little disappointed because now you're not going to get to sit back and watch the early trial. now you're not going to get to sit back, see the governments' witnesses, take notes and adjust your strategy accordingly. trump's team will half win and half lose if there is a guilty plea that comes through, especially if it involves cooperation by ken chesbro. >> all right. ken chesbro's attorney in the courtroom now. this is going to be happening in a few minutes. we will keep a close ear to this and eye on this. we will bring you updates as they come in. elie and katelyn and nick, thank
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you. coming up for us, the idf is saying this morning that the majority of the hostages captured by hamas are still alive. what more detail we are getting about that. we will bring to you. and also, then, the developments on capitol hill, jim jordan is not backing down. the congressman said that he's pushing forward for a third vote on the house floor as he tries, again, to become the next speaker of the house. it's all about to unfold. we will take you there.
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kidnapped during that brutal assault and massacre in that terror attack by hamas nearly two weeks ago. it is unclear what the idf, though, means by a majority at this moment and when asked for more information israeli officials are not offering them, but we also don't know how they know this, but they did confirm the following, 20 of the hostages are children under the age of 18, and 10 to 20 are older than 60 years old. it's not clear the exact number of hostages being held, but the idf says as many as 200 people are missing. now, the update comes just hours after thousands of israeli troops started staging right now just outside of gaza. they're staged just outside of gaza and they've been told that they will soon be seeing gaza, quote, from the inside. we are also and have been seeing and are seeing today more
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protests across the arab world, protesting against israel, protesting for the palestinians. sara sidner was in the west bank just this morning and we want to play for you what happened in the middle of her report. before we roll this, please know that sara and her crew, they are fine, but this shows just how tense the situation on the ground is becoming. >> reporter: just a few moments ago we heard gunfire likely from the israeli military that is posted up. i'm going to try to give you a bit of a shot of it, but let me show you what's happening here. people came after the friday prayers, this he came to march in solidarity with the palestinians in gaza who are dealing with both a humanitarian crisis, no food, no water, no fuel, but also with a crisis of just getting the air strikes over and over and over again, which has killed so many
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civilians who are not part of the government, not part of the government that runs that -- that place, that strip, hamas. so you are seeing this sort of solidarity that was called for, by the way, by hamas all over the arab world and the world alike, but you are also seeing the journalists gathered here because this is kind of where the clashes happens. all right. -- >> you are genocide supporter. you are not welcome here. genocide supporter. [ bleep ] cnn. [ bleep ] cnn. [ bleep ]. genocide supporter. [ bleep ]. >> reporter: all right. you see that people are very angry, they do not like the way in which -- that cnn has been reporting this story, you hear that, but this is -- we're fine. but what you are seeing is the heightened fear, anger,
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frustration with what's happening in general -- the general anger people feel that israel is getting more support than the palestinians and the palestinians feel they are getting bombed and losing a lot of life. i mean, we are talking upwards of 3,000 people now killed, 10,000 or plus who have been injured in gaza. here in the west bank, by the way, there have been 67 people plus who have been killed. watch out, there is an ambulance coming. and every now and then you have tensions flare. this is what happened to this region but this is different in that there is a full-scale official war that has been declared by israel and they may -- going forward -- go into gaza on the ground and there is a huge fear, huge fear from people here that that is going to turn into an unbelievable massacre, much worse than what has already occurred from the
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air strikes. that's the situation here in ramallah, there are very few actually comparatively protesters compared to other places, jordan has a huge number of protesters, we're seeing that in lebanon as well, but, you know, this is how people are responding because they feel they can't do anything else but come out and decry what is happening to palestinians in gaza. >> again, that was our sara sidner earlier this morning. we're staying in close touch with sara and her crew throughout the day. let's get now to cnn's matthew chance, he is in northern israel where israelis there are under a voluntary -- now we know it's a voluntary evacuation from parts as shelling with hezbollah in lebanon is building up and ratcheting up. what are you seeing there and hearing? >> reporter: yeah, kate, look, tensions are very high up here as well and, you know, a lot of people, very anxious, a lot of israelis very anxious about the fact that they've been told
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by -- or advised by the israeli government now to evacuate their homes. i'm here in a town where there is just over 20,000 people here and that order came through this morning. it's voluntary, they don't have to go if they don't want to, but we are seeing an uptick in the number of rockets being fired across the border from hezbollah positions in lebanon into these areas in northern israel. of course, as the israeli military prepares to go into gaza, as we happy it will over the next couple of days what happens, then the threat of rocket strike from lebanon, hezbollah, syria as well is growing and that's why this order to evacuate, this advice to evacuate has been issued. buses are being sent in to carry people out. also within the course of the day there's been an incursion by armed individuals, armed gunmen, from lebanese territory into
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israel through a border fence. three of those gunmen were killed according to the israeli defense forces, but there is another one person, another one gunman, who is still at large somewhere in this area in northern israel. so earlier we saw a big -- the edge of a big security operation under way to try to find that person who is said to be armed and, you know, at liberty in this part of northern israel. of course, given the experience of israelis last week, i mean, there is a particular sensitivity to the damage that could be done by just one gunman who has come in on this occasion from lebanon. so that's added even more tension to this very volatile situation in northern israel. kate? >> absolutely. i mean, hearing that they have incursions coming in from lebanon, raising the stakes of what a two-front war would mean for israel if that's what they could be looking a.
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matthew, thank you very much. we will stay close with matthew in northern israel. coming up still for us, we're also going to head back to washington. jim jordan moving ahead with today's vote to try to find another house speaker. he is trying to win over support. he is trying to convince his fellow republicans to stick with him. this would be the third vote this week where jim jordan hopes the outcome will be much different. republican congresswoman joining us live next and how she sees this playing out.
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this is the 17th day that the house of representatives has no speaker. and facing this really unprecedented turmoil within congress and within the republican party in the house, they are headed to a third vote. if you have whiplash, you are not alone. yesterday about this time jordan was saying that he would not seek a third vote, but now that vote is back on. speaking to reporters just this morning jim jordan suggested now that this fight could stretch into the weekend. >> we had a good conversation and we will continue to do that, but as i point out, the fastest way to get to work for the american people is to elect a speaker so the house can be open and we can get things done. our plan this weekend is to get a speaker elected to the house of representatives as soon as possible so we can help the american people. >> joining me right now reap congresswoman from indiana victoria smarts. thank you for coming in. to remind everyone with regard to the speaker votes to this point, you voted against jim
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jordan in the first vote, you voted for jim jordan in the second vote. now going into a third vote, what are you going to do today? >> listen, my first vote was an objection that we didn't stay last weekend and figure our differences and then we went to the floor instead of having 217. so i objected that i didn't vote for jim. i voted in the second one. first of all, representative tim cole did an amazing speech and said we will be dealing with real issues like border security in that commission but also give jim another chance. i insist and told him personally that if you cannot get the votes on the floor we have to go back into conference, reconcile differences or move on but we have to have a speaker. we cannot continue this and we cannot have grandstanding, we will look foolish. >> and that's generally not what's going to happen because he said they're taking it to the floor and it's going to happen
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in something like 30 minutes from now. so do you support him today? >> well, i will support him one more time, but that will probably be my last time if he is not going to go back to conference because if this is not going to be resolved on the floor, so we will see where he is with his votes today, you know. i think he needs to understand that a lot of the things now have to be decided as a group and reconciled by the group. we will see where he is. hopefully he was able to, you know, to work with some people. the challenge you have and kevin made the same mistake, when you force people on the floor and put a lot of public pressure, you know, you get attacked a lot and people and their families get attacked, you get attacked and people get upset. the same the conservatives were attacked last time and were upset now, a lot of moderates and other members were attacked. it's not healthy for government people to be upset because you ultimately govern the people of members and speaker works for the members so it makes it hard
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to govern in the tight majority. >> absolutely. so this is important for everyone to know. from a -- every vote is critical at this point obviously. victoria spartz will give jim jordan one more shot with this vote and after that jim jordan could be even losing more votes because it will show, as you said, that you guys need to get back as a family, if you will, and work this thing out. you have said that you do not like the idea of giving bigger power, more power to patrick mchenry as a temporary speaker. if that is the only option to get enough votes to get the house open and working again, do you see yourself coming around to it at all? >> no, i think this is unconstitutional. it was done after september 11th but a lot of bad laws were done after september 11th, we saw what's happened, how they were abused during covid, the emergency and a lot of governors and leaders were abusing them. so i think we actually shouldn't
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allow to do something unconstitutional, you know, and expand power. we should elect speaker. it's never been tested, you know, in the courts and honestly everything done on the floor will be challenged and tested, that's not good, that's not a way to govern. we have to elect a speaker even if they have to close us in the room without food and water until we get a speaker in that room. >> we will see. let's see what happens at 10:00, but it looks like it's heading in a direction of you may need to get people in there without food and water to get through this, congresswoman. i do want to ask you about the speech and what we heard from president biden last night. he laid out last night that he is asking congress for $100 billion in aid for israel, ukraine, the u.s. southern border and also taiwan. as our viewers now you were born in ukraine, you are a strong supporter of ukraine and of israel. will you support approving an aid package like this if the house would open up and if you can get it before you quickly?
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>> well, i think we have to make sure that, you know, israel and ukraine win that war and we need to do much better with weapons that we did, but we also need to make sure that we deal with domestic issues of and additionally actually have a debt commission to deal with our huge crushing debt and have some border security reforms to get it under control. so i think it should be negotiation with both sides. it shouldn't be a partisan issue. i think additional to this we need border security and debt commission and i will be open to that but that oversight goes to the right cause it's not a slush fund which unfortunately it became. >> well, let's see -- first and fore most, you can't pass anything unless the house is actually operating and in paralysis that we're seeing right now that seems to be the first order and must take priority. congresswoman, thank you so much for your time. we will be watching as the vote plays out very soon.
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thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. so that is a view from a very important republican on the direction of where this is going in the house in terms of a house speaker, but also with regard to president biden's prime time address to the nation. the appeal that he made for more wartime funding to support israel and to support ukraine. did he make a convincing enough case? we will discuss this further after the break.
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ukraine, taiwan and the u.s. southern border. biden said very simply and starkly that the world is at an inflection point, that putin and hamas want to, quote, completely annihilate democracy. today president biden says he is going to formally ask congress to approve a package of $105 billion in aid to these war efforts. that total includes $60 billion for ukraine, $14 billion for israel and also additional money for humanitarian aid, a significant boost in funding to bolster border security in the u.s. and also aid to the indo-pacific and taiwan. wrapped up in all of this, as we were just talking about, is the fact that without a speaker of the house right now congress can't pass anything. joining us now democratic congressman from massachusetts jake auchincloss. biden made the point this isn't from far away places we are
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watching in the united states, this is about american security at home as well, but do you think he made a strong enough case to get a republican majority in the house on board? >> yes, the president met the moral moment. our ally democracies are under attack from terrorists, from tyrants, from totalitarianism and the president is responding with strong statesmanship and with clarity of purpose, and now it's incumbent on congress to match his resolve. we know that a majority of the republican conference has been in support of israel, of ukraine, of taiwan. the votes exist. what is necessary is for house republican leadership to jettison their extremists and to unlock bipartisan governance so we can set aside the petty infighting and instead actually govern, not just for this democracy here at home, but for democracies the world over. >> some republicans are furious
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that he's linking the aid for ukraine which has become divisive, to -- in parts of congress -- to aid for israel. just one tweet that popped up from republican senator from ohio j.d. vance, he didn't mince any words. he wrote, i think what the president did is completely disgraceful. if he wants to sell the american people on $60 billion more for ukraine he shouldn't use dead israeli children to do it, calling it disgusting. is this going to be a problem? >> it's a problem for j.d. vance, but j.d. vance has no moral compass, he is somebody who has sold out his own constituents in pursuit of a cult of personality on behalf of donald trump. ukraine and israel are linked. they are linked because both are fighting for democracy against neighbors who would destroy the very people who inhabit that territory.
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>> congressman, would you be open to more accountability around the funds? that is one thing we have heard from republicans not named j.d. vance. i know victoria spartz who was just on with us she's talk being more accountability of where the funds are. >> accountability is a stocking horse for republicans to try to avoid taking a vote that might anger their trump base. the funds going to ukraine have rigorous accountability within the state department, within the department of defense, and within ukraine itself. we've seen president zelenskyy take action when necessary to assure that. i will also go a step further and say that the funds sent to ukraine have been the highest return on investment for national security dollars in my entire lifetime. for less than americans spend on soft drinks every year we have doubled nato's border with russia, cratered half of russia's conventional military capacity, induced our allies to spend more on their own defense spending, we have sent a clear message to beijing that america stands for freedom and democracy
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the world over and change their calculation regarding taiwan. this has been a successful foreign policy endeavor by president biden and republicans agree with him privately, but publicly they are afraid because donald trump tweets mean things at them. >> i want to lean on your military service here. israel is preparing for a ground invasion, hamas terrorists are still holding, we believe, something like 200 hostages potentially. palestinian civilians are also caught in the middle of this. we are seeing protests against israel for pro-palestinians breaking out again in the middle east today, showing just how tense and how critical this moment is. saying the world is at an inflection point is not hyperbole in this moment, but you are also -- when president biden is looking for americans to come together to speak with one voice, you do have democratic colleagues of yours, like rashida tlaib who is palestinian-american speaking out very critically of president biden and his support of israel
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in this moment. let me play this. >> president biden, not all america is with you on this one, and you need to wake up and understand that. we are literally watching people commit true genocide and killing the vast majority just like this and we still stand by and say nothing. we will remember this. >> that from a fellow democratic colleague of yours in the house. what do you say to them? >> outlier democratic lawmakers who spread disinformation and falsely conflate hamas with the palestinian people do not speak for the democratic party. the leader of the democratic party, joe biden, the leader of house democrats, hakeem jeffries, the leader of senate democrats, chuck schumer, they are the ones who represent the democratic party's position on standing with israel and in that vein it is forceful and
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unequ unequivocal. israel has a right to defend themselves against terrorists who murder jews and the united states has the responsibility to stay with our fellow democracy in the middle east. >> congressman jake auchincloss, thank you for your time. >> good to be with you. moments from now the house of representatives set to convene right up the hallway from where the congressman is standing at our camera position, they are convening one more time for one more vote on the house floor, the third vote for house speaker this speak. jim jordan pressing ahead, fighting on, even suggesting this could stretch into extra innings this weekend. what is going to happen and what's going to be different for jim jordan now? we will go back to capitol hill.
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let's get back to washington right now where it is all about to go down once again. the house of representatives is getting ready to vote again for the house speaker, the third vote this week. and jim jordan is saying that he is not giving up. cnn's lauren fox is standing by, and we are all walking behind you, lauren.
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where do things stand? >> yeah, we are waiting for the democratic leader hakeem jeffreys to give us a update on what is happening. >> he right behind you, lauren. we are just go to have the viewers know that we will get as close as we can, because the democratic leader is stopping short of the camera, but he is going to clearly speak to the reporters gathered around. the house democrats have repeatedly made clear that we are ready, willing and able to find a bipartisan path forward to reopen the house so that we can get the business of the american people done. so we can stand by our friends and allies throughout the world like israel and ukraine, provide
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humanitarian assistance to palestinians who may be in harm's way and meet the health and safety and economic wellbeing needs of every day americans, and the house democrats have made it clear that we want to find a bipartisan path forward at. at every step of the way the republicans have rejected the democrat partisanship, and jim jordan is a clear and present danger to our democracy. he wants to end social security as we know it, and he wants to end medicare as we know it. he doesn't believe that president biden was elected in 2020. that is disrespectful to the american people. jim jordan wants to impose a nationwide abortion ban, and he is the poster child for maga extremism.
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we are saying to the traditional republican colleagues, good men and women on the other side of the aisle, end the attachment to the extremist jim jordan and join with democrats in finding a bipartisan path forward. catherine clark. catherine clark. >> we are 17 days in to a choice by the majority of chaos. a choice to reject coming together and putting the people of this great country over their civil war, their partisan bickering and movement to extremism. this is a choice by the majority, and we are re-emphasizing what our caucus and leader has been saying is for the past two weeks. come together. you are weakening our country. you are weakening this
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institution. you are ignoring the work of the american people. the time is now. choose a bipartisan path forward. >> pete aguilar. >> jim jordan has failed at every vote, and he is going to continue to fail. we are behind house leader jeffries, and we are going to do what we need to do, and two objectives for house democrats and one is to make sure that jim jord jordan does not get close to the chair, and we have work to do and we will do it together and advocate for the bipartisan path forward until we open up the chamber. >> so, you are talking about a b bipartisan path forward, but what makes you think it can be
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revived. >> there are reasonable republicans on the other side, good men and women who want the house to open and function. what i have said is that we want a house that allows for bipartisan bills that benefit the american people, and not democrats or republicans bshg the american people. we want a house that allows for bipartisan bills to receive up or down votes, that will receive the majority of members on both sides of the aisle, but are being blocked right now by the extremists. >> will you have all of your people here to block mr. jordan and every single roll call vote this weekend? >> we recognize that jim jordan is a clear and present danger to the american people. we are going to be here for as long as it takes to end this national nightmare. >> will you tell us which republicans will be willing to partner with the democrats? >> that is a question you should
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ask them. >> will you vote for patrick mchenry on the floor? >> i have said that there are many republicans on the other side of the aisle who we believe are good americans, good patriots, and patrick mchenry is one of them, and there are others. >> sir, have you spoken to any of the colleagues about a good path forward? >> i have not spoken to patrick mchenry. >> who do you blame for this situation that we are in since you voted with the eight republicans to oust mccarthy? >> well, the job of the house republicans is to elect a speaker who can get to 218 votes and to sustain a speaker at 218 votes. that is the job of the majority. from the very beginning of the republic going back to 1789. and by the way, who created jim jordan? who normalized jim jordan?
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who is about to nominate jim jordan? that is clear. >> and are you okay if they were to go ahead and elect a speaker protem as they did in the early '60s they did speaker rayburn as they did, and that option is on the table, and that is something that you are okay with the precedent? >> and all options to get the house back open to do the business of the american people. >> if every democrat -- >> say it again. >> is mchenry the only name in the conversation? >> no. >> who are the other names? steve womack and other names and get into the detail? >> you have to ask the other side of the aisle who they are willing to put forward. >> if every democrat went to the floor and voted for a republican today, you could find a handful of republicans who could join you organically, and who would you recommend? >> to vote for a republican
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speaker of the house? we would have to look at what that looks like. >> there are some on your side who have such antipathy for the republicans who could not do that. >> let's be clear, and we have said clearly that we have said for the last two weeks that we are ready and willing to find a bipartisan path forward to enter into a relationship with the republicans of the house to get the job done for the hard working american taxpayers and we need traditional republicans to join us instead of rejecting bipartisanship, they need to stop embracing the extremism. >> any concessions that you will be willing to make? >> can you see any scenario right now that -- ♪ ♪ i am jake tapper in washington today, two skylines
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away, with a shared sense of uncertainty and urgency and crisis. here in washington, d.c. with a challenge to fund wars for democratic allies running into a congress and house republicans who just cannot get their act together. in gaza, an anxious wait for what many fear is coming, and the idea of invasion to weed out the terrorist group hamas. i'm jake tapper. >> i'm dana bash. i'm in washington where jim jordan is hoping to finish the fight, but that hope is not looking that way, because at moment, there is very little reason to believe that there is a third vote to earn the speaker's gavel is going to end any differently than in defeat. jordan can only afford three defections and on the second vote he lost 22.
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>> not close. i'm erin burnett here in gaza where everyone is waiting on edge. trucks carrying medicine, food and desperately needed water on the rafah crossing where they need water, water, water, and hundreds of navy reservists are waiting to invade those along that border as missiles are ricocheting across today from yemen. looking at the picture now in yemen. people are packed shoulder-to-shoulder as far as the eye can see, and thousands upon thousands upon thousands of them in sanaa in the south, jake. >> looking at the pictures, let's start here in d.c. with the coverage at the u.s. capitol
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